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Seattle: many believe we left seattle because i was fired for refusing the vax as a fire Lt....the biggest reason we left was because of the school system. My wife taught in WA and she said she could not deliver the required curriculum that she was told to give (2nd grade)...We packed our three kids up and left. That was two years ago

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Schools have always had cult like environments, but my lord it has increased a thousand fold the last few years. I used to get bullied by teachers and other students for wanting to be by myself at lunch and recess. I did not like other people and still don't, for the most part. I'm just solitary. We went on a 3rd grade class trip and I slipped on very loose gravel and fell. The teacher said it was my fault because I wanted to be alone, which is completely illogical. Point is, they have always been cults with the mentality of "You must all think like I say and be like every one else", and in my case, I was "bad" because I wanted to be alone. Critical thinking skills were taught more in high school, but even then, there was an insane amount of pressure to be "normal". The school called my parents numerous times because I wanted to be alone, did not fit in, and questioned everything.

That cult mentality has not changed. Students are still excepted to fit a mold both in what they are being taught and how they act. The issue is now they are being taught 100% untrue things like "men can get pregnant" and are being attacked for seeing and speaking reality. When you teach someone not to believe what they are seeing and experiencing, even when it is something completely true, that's called brainwashing, gaslighting, manipulation and abuse. It's similar to a sexual abuse experience for a kid: "I didn't really do that, you imagined it." The worst kind of abuse is teaching someone to doubt themselves and it looks like Seattle is doing an excellent job, along with a good part of the rest of the country.

Thank God for good teachers - they are out there.

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Thank you for what you wrote. That wasn't easy.

When i hear co-workers talk about what their kids deal with.........mine are in college now and still...the indoctrination never ends.

I homeschooled mine. Never thought that was something i would do but it turned out to be one of THE BEST things i've ever done. For you parents out there - please consider it. With small exceptions, your kids are in a toxic cesspool. Get them out. The memories you will have later on will be priceless, the time spent with them is irreplaceable. It was do-able for a married couple and later as a young widow. AND still worked full time. Wasn't easy at the time but looking back now, i wouldn't hesitate for a millisecond to do it all over again.

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That's awesome! I am glad you were able to homeschool. I never had children, but there is no way in the world they would set foot in a public school. Between the cultism, wokeism, the "vaccines" required, and the constant push to generate fear and compliance, it's a hard pass. I still don't think schools teach much of value, either. No shop. No home ec, which is the main reason I can cook from scratch today. God bless my mom, but she used boxes and cans. Were in not for one high school class, so would I.

It makes me concerned that there appears to be a part of our population that sees nothing wrong with the education system. Are those parents not paying attention to what is going on in the kid's school or do they know and not care?

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I homeschool my twin 11 year old granddaughters who live with my husband and I. I recently had a discussion with a para-educator at a local school. Her main concern wasn't sex education at primary school or even vaccines. It was the out of control kids in the classroom. The disruptions are continuous and makes a learning environment impossible. It's a real disadvantage to kids trying to learn. She said she would homeschool if her kids. weren't grown.

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It seems they don’t want to know and do not care.

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My guess is that many just have a 'contract it out' attitude about so many areas of life, including the raising of children, having absorbed the 100+ year old regressive "Progressive" ethic that only 'experts' should think and should run things, while the rest of us work menial jobs to pay for what the 'experts' think best. We can see by what happened in Loudoun County, Virginia, and by the institution and rapid spread of Moms for Liberty that some now realize that's what they were doing. Others may be too busy working two jobs to keep their heads above water financially to know, or perhaps some are what Aristotle called 'natural slaves,' such that they neither know nor care.

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When my daughter was in 4th grade a friends father offered to test AND medicate her for social anxiety. I said no thanks. When she went to college all of her friends were on medication. Looks like you learned to think for yourself and that critical skill survived your education. Congrats.

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Wow! I just read a substack on the brain damage SSRI’s do to babies when the mom takes them while pregnant. They actually have reduced gray matter and experience withdrawal symptoms that make them miserable. I wonder how many of those college girls would take an ssri if they knew how hard they are to quit. And if you don’t quit and get pregnant the baby will suffer.

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Unfortunately, if they even knew about the damage they are doing, they would choose the default solution. Abortion.

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That's exactly right - it's a kind of abuse. Forcing kids to deny what they can see with their own eyes. I've never realized it before now, but that is why this makes me so uncomfortable. The gaslighting absolutely is a kind of abuse, not all that dissimilar from sexual abuse.

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It appears sex and gender depend on ‘context’ (Biology class vs Diversity Social Justice class) just like violence toward Jews.

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Theres a funny meme (true meme) that shows a screenshot of a shirt sold on amazon listing all the 'genders' and then only 2 size styles to choose from, mens or womens.

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Not kind of abuse. Blatant child abuse!

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Yes, school, public or private is a cult/gang. It has always been that way in the sense that some kids are "popular" and dictate the unspoken "rules" somehow and others try to fit in but don't and others just want to get done and get out so they can move on.

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Interesting what you say about it being a cult. A little while ago I was thinking about all the teacher appreciation stuff parents do and thought it was almost like worship offerings. The constant refrain of “we’re so grateful for everything you do” recited almost like a prayer and the kowtowing to teachers and school officials did make me think of a cult like mindset.

I’m not saying we can’t express gratefulness, to be clear, but I just feel it’s on a whole different level from a small Christmas or end of the year gift or note to a special teacher that we used to do.

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The "participation prizes for all!" generation morphed into needy adults requiring daily affirmations and too many school kids stuck with me-me-me toddler brains.

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I keep thinking about this ad/PSA from the 70s 😕 No wonder people are so focused on themselves!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KwSEYvTZCdQ

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FourWinds ...the famous The Asch conformity experiments were a series of psychological experiments conducted by Solomon Asch in the 1950s. The experiments revealed the degree to which a person's own opinions are influenced by those of a group. Asch found that people were willing to ignore reality and give an incorrect answer in order to conform to the rest of the group.

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It takes a strong mind and resolve to maintain what you did to get through school Four Winds. Bravo!

My son had a heck of a time all the way up through 7th grade. He was in a mix of public schools and private schools. He was never accepted because he had concrete beliefs and didn't do what everyone else did just because "that's the way it is supposed to be." If he didn't see the rationale or purpose, he just wasn't going to do it. But to be honest, I really wished he would go along with the little things every now and then because it made for much loneliness - and he is a total people person, believe it or not. Now he's a sophomore and has, maybe, one buddy. But I watch him coming out the door of school and he holds the door for everyone. Whatever he was designed for, I know Hod created him to do big things. I am so proud of his critical thinking skills - far and above most of his peers, despite he can't just keep his mouth shut when someone says something incorrect. 😜

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I am an outspoken, unapologetic, Creationist and that led to some spicy times in the public schools I attended. My Physics teacher eventually altered some of his lectures while I was in his class. I even met with him after school. I hope it caused him to question at least some of the orthodoxy.

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I'm thankful you moved your family to a better place. When I see the stories of people fleeing, it makes me feel like we are in a battle and we are losing literal ground to the left. But that's easy for me to say sitting in a red state and I know that people must protect their children and am thankful that people are protecting their children.

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Mr Carlson where did you end up and did you see improvement.

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We are in Texas hill country. No place is perfect. We looked at all states that have good home school laws just in case. We are in a very small town that still says the pledge of allegiance and has not adopted the hyper sexual training. Closer to big cities you'll still see it though. I hope you find your place that helps you raise your littles. The environment really matters.

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Love the area, Blacks BBQ, Rudy’s BBQ, San Marcos Tx,,,Shlitterbahn ….. I am in NorCal and will remain as grandkids and family are here. I am active in fighting the lies and indoctrination….

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The Salt Lick...

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My absolute favorite bbq. I rarely go anymore as my brother moved further away from Austin so it's more of a drive than it was. We are in KS so I have to buy the sauce online and pretend I am there.

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Thank you Jim for fighting!!!!

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I live nearby in Victoria and have daughters in Austin Houston and Tyler We feel pretty comfortable here and enjoy the same places! Gov Abbott has done a pretty good job

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We left Seattle for Prescott, AZ. Smallish town, lots of conservatives and lots of churches. We love it.

Even here, though, the public schools don’t let parents into the classrooms. And some of my private violin students go to charter schools and private schools where they are taught from a very liberal perspective. Twenty years ago, a group of parents started a Christian classical education school because they didn’t feel comfortable just handing their kids over and having the door closed in their faces. I now teach music there and it is wonderful. Waiting list in the hundreds.

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The hill country is beautiful. Graduated from Texas State back when it was still SWTSU. Now I'm in a small town between Houston and Austin teaching 7 - 8 grades. No wokeness here either, or I wouldn't still be teaching.

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That’s where we landed after escaping CA. We love it, folks are welcoming and friendly.

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Yes, I am curious too! I live in MO, a mostly red state and our public schools are not much better. Much of this rot is coming from the dept of Education (on Jeff's chain saw list from yesterday) and from the woke indoctrinated products of today's putrid higher ed system.

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I’m wondering if any parents have considered auditing (sit in the back of the room and observe) their children’s classes. That might be interesting.

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Some of my friends did just that while classes were virtual during the scamdemic. They are now either homeschooling or have their kids in private Christian schools. I would do the same if mine were not grown. All were shocked at just how bad it was given that we are in a pretty conservative suburban district that is unfortunately led by a woke school board and administration. We are in year 3 of the fight to try to change the board, but sadly only 3 of 7 seats so far. Two more leftists up for re-election next year. Praying we can get 2 more conservatives elected. Even though mine are grown, I am in the fight as so goes the schools, goes the community. Too many conservatives don't pay attention to local elections, which are held separately in April from the higher profile August primary and November general elections. But the leftists vote in greater numbers in April. Biden only won 3 precincts in our city in 2020 but the left prevails in local. It's a tough fight, and sadly, it shouldn't be.

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God bless Donna, and best wishes.

I pulled my kids rather than fight them (though I have led several successful civic fights on other issues in the past) as I wasn't willing to leave my kids in a corrupt system while hoping to change it. It takes years and years to turn a school system around assuming the fight is ultimately successful. During those years the kids continue to be indoctrinated. I wasn't willing to pay that price with my kids.

The double-edged sword is that once one pulls their kids from the system, then one loses leverage to change it. Complaints are met with, "what do you care? You don't even have kids in the school". And they have a point that is hard to rebut.

I don't know the answer but I do know protecting my kids is my highest priority and I will not leave them in such a degenerate environment. My only conclusion regarding those that do is that 1) they agree with it or 2) they don't care what their kids are taught or 3) they are too foolish, lazy, or self-centered to see what is going on. Why would I fight to save a school system for parents that fit any of these three mindsets? People say, "parents are busy, they don't know what's going on in schools". Well, whose fault is that? Why should any of us fight for parents that think chasing a career (or whatever they are into) is more important than their kids education? School is a babysitting institution for them so they can both work and not be bothered dealing with the kids.

It's a sad state of affairs as it doesn't bode well for the future. But my priority is my kids, not the kids of people who don't care. As far as I'm concerned the system can collapse and is not worth saving. The idea of kids being educated by the government was never going to end well so it's pretty obvious to see where this is heading.

Anyways, best wishes and thank you for fighting this. I'm sure it's a thankless task and a huge personal sacrifice.

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Re: “Complaints are met with, "what do you care? You don't even have kids in the school". And they have a point that is hard to rebut.“

I’ve noticed for years that nearly all of the school board members in my school district do not have kids in school either. Some have no kids at all. The same is true for state PTA board members. They are almost always democrats with agendas to push. They view it as political office from which they can springboard from to even greater “public service”.

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My long time observation indicates the problem began when the federal government forced bussing. Rather than send their children to another school way across town, often in sketchy areas, parents who had the means sent them to private schools in their own neighborhoods.

That took care of it for them, but it took a big chunk of brain power and resources away from public schools.

Nothing good has happened in public education since then.

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And yes, an apparent majority of black teachers, staff and personnel in the schools where I worked had their own children in private schools. They were very proud of that and happy to talk about it. There are plentiful scholarships for certain groups for private school payments.

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Oh I know - I have knocked over 1000 doors the past 3 years and I get that - do YOU have kids in the district?! Of course I say no, I am 58, and not a good liar. But I care about the future and our community. That used to be a very family oriented cohesive conservative community in the 90's and 2000's. I hate that the left has turned the focus away from academic excellence to 'belonging' (the new DEI term). I know a lot who have moved, but the left just won 3 seats on a school board in a district just south of us that Trump won by 30 points in 2020. Not paying attention IS NOT an option any more. The left plays the long game.

I am serving as a community member on the Comprehensive Facilities Master Plan team (they are getting ready to roll out a bond issue in 2025) and while touring an elementary school, I was standing in a hallway while the group leader was droning on, I was reading the 5th grade student essays in the hallway. The grammar and spelling of about half of them was atrocious! I would yank that down and make my kid re-do it if it was one of mine. Mine are 28 and 30 and while I was starting to have issues by the time they hit HS, figured we'd ride it out at that point. Pre much social media and everyone else I mentioned my concerns to shrugged it off. But I did start attending occasional board meetings. Things really accelerated when our mostly naïve but well intentioned board members hired a super woke race baiting superintendent in 2017 and it's been downhill ever since. One conservative board member has yanked her kids from the district, with much criticism. That tells you all you need to know.

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Same! We have been having the same battle here in KS. The lefties embedded in the school board are not only unbeliveably arrogant but incredibly stupid as well. Super frustrating that others just keep voting without looking.

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I know, really sobering that ALL the conservative candidates lost in Joco in November - Blue Valley, Shawnee Mission and Olathe. 19% turnout. Think JoCo is getting way too infiltrated from KC refugees.

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No JOCO is white liberal woman central are you kidding?? Those people think their excrement don't stink and all have BLM and Love is Love etc signs in their yards. I work in Wyandotte which is VERY liberal but there are a lot of very conservative people of faith there. Some are starting to wake up. Very lovely people (for the most part--we get the whole gamut). I live in LV which has 50/50 I'd say due to the mix of military, federal employees and the run of the mill liberals. I think a lot of folks just HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE NEWS that shit has hit the fan and we need to correct course. By the time some of them figure it out it might be too late for them. It is harder to see in the smaller towns but it is very definitely there. They just aren't paying attention. But the ones with uteruses are all up in arms about maybe needing to murder a baby so they are in a panic to vote (they believe this nonsense about how the men will all make it 100% illegal and take away birth control--too much TV man.) TOO MANY ANTI-DEPRESSANTS has them all dazed and confused. Which is why they have been so overprescribed, oversold, and all the bad things about them have been censored.

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Trump won Johnson County in 2016, by 2.5% margin, so slim. He lost big in 2020 - by 8%. Sharice Davids beat Yoder in 2018. Definitely leaning blue now. But I agree about too many walking around asleep. I keep telling people crap is going to hit the fan next year sometime before the election. Of course my friends/circle agree, but the more casual friends/acquaintances look at me like I am nuts. I am in a KC suburb. Used to think it was solid red, Biden only won 3 precincts in 2020. But they keep adding more and more apartments and that does not bode well for 2024, although renters are somewhat less likely to vote.

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The fight for those 2 additional school board seats is well worth it. Stay strong, for the kids....

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In my small, conservative town, the public schools don’t let parents into the classroom.

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“...the public schools don’t let parents into the classroom.” Hard pass!

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What? Why? Don't any parents demand a reason?

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Some do, some don’t. But even if you ask why and they tell you the reason (“It’s disruptive for the class” or whatever) it doesn’t change anything.

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You are exactly right. Most of it comes from the fed edu dept.

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Woke social contagion spreads fastest on the internet.. Social apps like FaceCrook- Faceporn are the worst.. we have to minimize time on the net... and we must know what they are looking at...

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We left B'ham WA 3 years ago because of their terrible governor and progressive politics ruling the state. Sorry....not sorry!

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We left Bellingham, too, after 21 years and it was the best decision we ever made. Unfortunately, one of our kids still resides there so we visit once in a while. Those visits confirm our convictions.

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And now Whatcom County has elected a terrible new sheriff. I know from previous experience, things will only deteriorate further in the area with this error of judgement.

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May I ask where you escaped to?

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Missouri ! However, they have their share of wonky politics too.

:-)

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Congrats to you, Mr. Carlson! We left Seattle before the pandemic when its schools devolved. Unfortunately we didn't move far enough. We went to a place that terminated our fire chief after he got vaccinated. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/vashon-island-fire-chief-says-he-wont-get-vaccinated-despite-being-required-by-state-mandate/

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Schools especially universities are a classic example of mass formation. All 5 elements are present.

1. Isolation. From family forced to make new friends mentored by the indoctrinated.

2. Undefined anxiety, lack of meaning. Who doesn’t have that when entering college if they have not already started the meaning of life trek

3. Build adversity tension. Scary problems introduced-climate, the end of democracy, micro aggressions, you get it

4. Provide new narrative. Provide give (an) “object”/s of anxiety and anger. Save the world from ... DJT, MAGA, sars-c2, meat eaters, “breeders,” jab “hesitant” ... dehumanize the objects.

5. Feeling of connection. Via emotion action against “objects” . Willing to sacrifice for BLM, CRT, jab mandates, demolish society, own nothing, entitlement payment, ...

I may not have the steps correctly defined, but it should be close.

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I was 2 months old when I left. Not so important in 1949 when it was a great place to live. I feel sorry for my relatives who still live there.

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Welcome to the Republic of Texas, 1836

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Good for you, Scott!

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Are you back in the fire service?

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We'd love to know what kinds of things were in the 2nd grade curriculum! Please tell!

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Good for you. Major kudos. What state did you flee to?

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They're just following The Science (TM). And you know things change at "the speed of science." Which is very fast when it's pseudoscience masquerading as hard science. Which changes very slowly.

Have you ever heard of "biopsychology?" I hadn't before a few months ago, either. But here is a description of it:

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-biopsychology-2794883

It's a form of social science, not natural medical science. Biopsychology "science" offers this rationale for changing public policy to conform to gender identity...it is "science" you know, "the best science" we must follow, The Science (TM):

https://mindofreality.wordpress.com/psychology-corner/gender-role-stereotypes/gender-identity/

As with all of the social science based-public policy agenda, practitioners use a tiny bit of actual medical, natural science to build on and expand an entire narrative to fit the desired public policy goal of leaders and a powerful elite.

Like this study that says that the zygote stage of an embryo is often ambiguous in determining gender. And since the science of genetics as presented in a study like this is plausibly non-determinative it is up to any individual to identify as a gender of their own choosing that they feel most comfortable as:

https://www.scq.ubc.ca/genetics-of-sex-and-gender-identity/

Social science. Masquerading as Natural science. All-one. What allows the tiny truth that zygotes display no genitalia to become the massive blasphemous lie that God makes mistakes putting little boys in little girl's bodies, and vice-versa. Denying hard scientific evidence to the contrary. Just like pandemic, climate, all of the massive social reengineering lies. Intent on remaking man into the flawed images of the dangerously flawed people who currently hold the levers of great earthly power.

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I personally usually can’t tell the sex of a 3 month old baby should he/she be wearing only diapers. Ergo...there must not actually be anything to this whole binary sex thing. Makes sense to me.

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Just to make sure you have the gender child you planned for you should perform gender reassignment...errr...gender affirming surgery performed on your baby before they/their/them's first birthday. Affirming the gender you prefer for your child. Because, rights. Am I right? Who's with me?

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My Baby, My Choice!

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Right!!! Tru dat!! If I say my baby is a boy, by gosh, that erroneous female genitalia is outta here! Or vice-versa! God makes mistakes. I don't!

(I'm sorry, Dear Lord, I got carried away with my sarcasm...but you know that already, I remain your humble servant.)

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why can't you just comment without trying to sell your t-shirts?

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Now they had been sent from the Pharisees. And they asked him [John], and said to him, “Why then are you baptizing, if you are not the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?” John answered them, saying, “I baptize with water, but among you stands One whom you do not know. This One is He who comes after me, of whom I am not worthy to untie the strap of His sandal.” These things took place in Bethany beyond the Jordan, where John was baptizing. On the next day, he saw Jesus coming to him and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!”

— John 1:24-29 LSB

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I and friends are reading a chapter of the Gospel of Luke a day. Started on December 1 and will finish on Christmas Eve. A complete description of the coming of Christ, his life on earth, his death and resurrection, and finally his ascension into Heaven. Great Advent reading.

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Remember, the song, "Joy to the World" is about the return of The Christ, not His birth. These are exciting times .....

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Jesus is the truth in a dark and deceptive world.

'Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me. ' John 14:6

No one.

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Just got a head to toe chill out of nowhere reading that.

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NOT WORTHY. Gets me every time.

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Perhaps the greatest difference between His followers and the others. The ability to recognize this in ourselves. I personally find it ultimately freeing.

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Humility is liberating.

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Yes, and repentance.

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Me too. I was just pondering the experience then saw your comment.

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Because God gave him eyes to see.

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Amen and... “Let the name of God be blessed forever and ever, for wisdom and power belong to Him” (Dan. 2:20).

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❤️

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There's no such thing as a "moderate Seattle liberal." The kid is a red-pilled libertarian, but mom will still wave a $5 bill out the window of her Outback at any junkie with a cardboard sign and she still supports Planned Parenthood. She voted for Pramila Jayapal and she supports sending my tax money to Ukraine while welcoming MS-13 to her proudly "sanctuary" city.

A moderate liberal is an oxymoron.

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Perhaps, but why not see the good in her being awoken by an unjust and illogical attack on her child? She won't be a constitutional conservative overnight, but any beginning is good.

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I’m a liberal who opposes what’s happening in schools and homeschooled my daughter. A lot of things I didn’t wake up to until Covid because I didn’t know they were happening. I was busy homeschooling, gardening etc. I didn’t consume any corporate leftist media but also didn’t consume any from right until Trump running in 2016. I became very concerned about the division in our country and decided to learn more about conservative movements. I’m frustrated as heck with liberals but I believe many are on verge of waking up due to all the various nonsenses. This is why the powers that should be are coming down hard with censorship and such.

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Why? Because they move to red conservative areas like mine, drop the most extreme 10 % of their satanic believes, but keep the rest. This turns good conservative ares like ours into versions of where they just left, but 10 years earlier. Stay away. There are few Naomi Wolfes who come all the way over.

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Roland, if you're replying to me, we can be happy that someone living in (blue land) sees truth while also not really wanting them to come to where we live, unless they're thoroughly aware. The o.p. to whom I replied seems upset rather than happy that she knows any truth at all.

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All my conservative friends here in Canada were once lefties. Red pilling is a process. I was raised to the left of Bernie Sanders. Far left of him. Most of my 20s were spent taking bigger and bigger steps right. There aren’t few Naomi’s. At least not where I live. There are many.

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My thoughts also. How do we know what the above comment or is theorizing about the mother? Why divide us even more? It takes time. Protecting her kid. Moms first job. But then we have a kurmudgeon above. Some mornings I’m a total kurmudgeon.

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I read it as an example of a mother in Seattle and beyond, not necessarily that boy’s mother.

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I think the counter-evidence to that is that he says, "the kid is a red-pilled libertarian." That seems to point to the kid in Jeff's story, the one who got in trouble for refusing to answer falsely about biology.

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It’s like she was hypnotized, and when she hears the word “Trump” she will snap back to a moderate Seattle liberal. 😆

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I agree that your characterization, 'like she was hypnotized,' is descriptive, but not the rest. No, her baby boy was attacked by the teacher in school, making the mom so mad she went very public. That is powerful. My father, who was armed for his entire working FBI career and always kept guns available, said the only time he ever wanted to kill someone was when he saw a little boy from up the street tease my older sister, who was a young toddler at the time. Who can say where that mom's anger will lead? In retrospect, I feel like *I* was hypnotized by mainstream Western medicine and the scientific-medical-industrial complex; by the military-industrial complex; by the intelligence-industrial complex; by all those who pulled my patriotic-constitutional-conservative strings to make me think we were always 'the good guys;' that legislators have their constituents' best interests at heart, instead of their big donors'; that we go to war (always undeclared; the Constitution is so passé, you know) for 'truth, justice, and the American way,' not to generate big bucks to the defense industry and their big-bucks donation recipients in Congress; and so much more. Don't mock her for not knowing everything already. None of us is Athena, springing forth fully-formed from the head of Zeus.

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Well said! I totally agree.

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Yeah. The mom and her liberalism is the problem. Same in my area. There's no hope with the libbies, especially if they are women. Thoroughly committed to the cult. No critical thought.

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It is not true what you say though. True “Liberalism” is based on the imperative nature of free speech and civil rights. Think “old school democrats”. Just like when the left stole the rainbow, they stole the name “liberal” to cover their Marxist tracks and sneak into the hearts and minds of weak democrats. In truth, I am probably properly called “liberal” in my own particular political views but I am opposed to all the woke garbage being hurled in my direction each day.

By the way, do you remember the old school republicans? Those stodgy old men in ties who were only interested in promoting war and banning classic books like “to kill a mockingbird”? Anyway, conservatism has mostly left that archaic past in the dust, focusing on the very values liberals used to claim (the irony is really too much). Democrats have taken a much much uglier path to Marxism and general evil imo while republicans have grown closer to the conservative values of our religious roots.

Just don’t misunderstand what has happened to democrats by calling them liberals. This is a time when correct labels really matter. Peace to you

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Exactly. Liberalism died in this country when they purged "tolerance " from its definition in Websters. I still have an old copy. They are Bolsheviks , plain and simple. Not liberals, not Democrats, not progressives. These are the people who thought the unjabbed should be denied rights in society, or better yet, put in camps. Very sad, but good luck trying to prove me wrong.

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Bret Weinstein of Dark Horse, thinks democracy, or our republic, needs both old school liberalism and old school conservatism *in tension* and our founding documents, which we, among nations, are very lucky to have. My generation had to memorize them, but took them for granted. He also thinks atheism was a huge mistake, though not for the reasons those of us who believe in human alignment with the divine in the cosmos do.

The New Atheists Made a Massive Mistake We’re Still Paying For | Bret Weinstein on Dave Rubin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YpFTqB7qN4

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I agree totally. In all major successful companies there is a visionary and a chief operating officer who nixes impractical ideas, or helps implement good ones. If we thought of left and right as visionary creatives and practical implementers that worked together for good of country instead of opposing teams to demolish, our country would be in a much better place.

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Before we can do that, though, we really need to separate world views from personalities. People think conservatives are not creative, not curious, not open, etc but my entire family, all conservatives, are well educated, well travelled, and well read, and we are musicians, artists, college professors, design engineers and yes, even public school teachers. Free thinkers, all of us. Jonathan Haidt did a lot of damage with his theories about conservatives and liberals. The stereotypes do exist, but they are not the norm.

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I wouldn't blame Haidt for stereotypes. For me, it came from growing up in a county that is over 90% Republicans. Lots of wonderful people I love, but I never fit in for being creative, spiritual, eating healthy food, reading books etc. Though I would be quite a misfit now in a very liberal area.

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Another way of looking at it:

I am sure you could find other counties that are 90% Democrat and are full of people who are fat, uncreative, unspiritual, and watch TV instead of reading books.

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I do blame him. He wrote a book about this and teaches that conservatives are tribal, narrow minded, rule-bound, authoritarian, don’t like new things, etc. It is not true. Or I should say it is true of some conservatives, but not the majority. The opposite is also true: some of the most tribal people I know are my friends in Seattle, ultra liberals. My conservative family couldn’t care less about sports teams. My liberal friends in Seattle mope for weeks if the Seahawks lose. My conservative family members have friends from all over the world and people are coming and going all the time at my parents’ house. Meanwhile, my liberal friends in Seattle have the nastiest thing to say about “those blankety-blank conservatives in AZ who hate immigrants”. Talk about narrow-minded, in-group vs. out-group. And what about openness to new ideas + being rule-bound? Witness the whole pandemic: who was it again thinking for themselves, in spite of immense pressure from the government and society as a whole? Who was it wagging their fingers at everyone to pull that mask up over your nose?

Yes, Haidt did damage. My liberal friends believe him and as a result have no idea what a conservative is like. They didn’t even realize they knew one because we don’t actually resemble what they have been told to expect: ignorant, bigoted, trailer trash. It made living in Seattle increasingly uncomfortable. I’m just having a conversation, and next thing I know, my friend is saying something horrible about me, about my family, all the while assuming I am liberal like them and will agree. And I had to decide, do I say something and make it really awkward? Or do I keep my mouth shut, and then later they discover I am conservative, and then it’s *really* awkward?

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I did not mean to imply he did no damage by his book just that I did not get my impression from his book-never read it- but from my experience being raised in rural west in 80s and 90s. Things have changed a lot since then. I'm sorry this has happened to you. I was considered "weird" by conservatives from my area then but people were not unkind. I am appalled at how prejudiced the so-called social justice types are.

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The changing of terms and meanings is significant. I was once a "liberal" as in the classical sense. Today, I find that without changing significantly my world view I am now better described as a conservative libertarian. The problem I find is that most people have latched onto the label and change their views to accomodate rather than keeping their integrity and accepting the change of label to something that they were once brainwashed into believing had negative connotations. It is truly all about feelings for these persons. rather than a rational analysis.

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Yes. That meme about the left person not moving while the left moves away is incorrect. One- conservatives have moved a lot toward old school liberal beliefs and two- majority of left just jumped off a cliff into “bat sh*t crazy”.

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True ... very few true libs left. The people being spoken about are progressives, far leftists, not liberals.

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I think you mean libertarian?

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Many of us began as lefties. My red pilling took about 5-8 years. From my early to late twenties. (45-50 years ago). Once you take that first step it means you are thinking. She likely is on her way.

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you dont know that so why perpetuate the Divisiveness? DO you really think we will make this revolution only with those who believe 100% as we do? stop being so myopic and dogmatic please.

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Official Narrative: SADS...we don’t know what the cause of death is but we definitely know it’s not the covid shots.

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Almost lost a friend of mine this past week. Tall, slim, healthy, non-smoker, 36 yo mother of three. Her heart just stopped beating. Thankfully and providentially, she was in a CVS where they had a nurse on staff and a defibrillator. It took 4 jolts to get her heart to restart. She’s still in the hospital. Miraculously, no brain damage but will be on bedrest for weeks. Please pray!

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I will pray for your friend, Debbie.

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Praying!

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Debbie, would you be willing to share her first name, or give her a name, that I might name her in my prayers? Regardless, prayers for both of you. 🙏

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Yes, I find it difficult to pray deeply without a name.

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Theresa.

Thank you so much!

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Theresa.

Thank you for your prayers and your concern.

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Hoping and praying for the best!

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Praying for your friend.

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Update on Theresa:

She is doing great and beyond thankful to be alive. Many thanks to all who prayed. Your prayers were answered!

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Science is Baffled, except they're positive It's Not The Vax.

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With our new world science, positive has a negative reaction.

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Sadly he died of NTV. (Not the vax.)

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......"cross my heart and hope to die".

Lying sons of - well, you know.

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Perdition?

Mrs. "the Knife"

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...one can hope.

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No need to hope. You will. Question is, what follows?

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“To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.”

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Wishing I'd not been so afraid to get it. 🤪

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If you mean that you actually did take the jab --here's a 'temporal congruence"--I had just been praying for Debbie Wagner's 36 year old friend--assuming she was suffering from post-jabitis, and asking God that those who had taken it and who are now suffering or regretting, will speak out against it. Those words from my mouth just seconds before reading your post.

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We did not take it but sometimes a heart attack sounds comforting rather than all the other.

Praying with you for all those we love and our enemies who did. God saves.

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So for once, no SADs here and I have to share good news. I had asked people to pray for my coworker who is fully jabbed and boosted and had a stroke. He was out a few weeks but is back now. He was told he was exceptionally lucky that the stroke was where it was. Had it been elsewhere up front, he was told he would have lost the ability to move on the left and maybe lose the ability to speak. I am so grateful he is OK. Thanks for everyone who put positive energy/prayers out there. He's a good guy. So many SADs, though. Too many.

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LOL. Chiropractors are used to this battle. They've seen it all before.

(Many of them are likely smiling at regular doctors, saying "See, I told you this was coming...")

Bring. It. On.

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In my experience, Chiropractors are more likely to know how the body works than a Doctor.

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If you remove the education on pharmaceuticals, chiropractors have more education than medical doctors. They tend to be more well-versed in musculoskeletal conditions, exercise & stretching and nutrition/homeopathy than traditional doctors. I have one of the few good doctors but I still trust my chiropractor’s opinion more on most things.

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Many also have studied Functional medicine, thus making them valuable members in the medical community.

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1000%.

The dr we went to a week ago had no idea what NAC or PQQ were. When asked why my husband took them I had to explain NAC is a precursor to glutathione which you need to purge your body from contaminents, toxins. Really?! I liked her Ok and pro freedom, but comeon. Our chiro would def know these!

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so i need to take the NAC first, then Glutathione? thanks! did not know this

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No, the NAC is converted by your body to Glutathione.

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thanks!

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Hi Liz- No you don’t. Glutathione alone is fine. So is NAC alone is fine. Some people have a hard time converting NaC to glutathione so taking glut straight is best. But NAC is low cost and I prefer the smell/taste is better. So. Sorry for the confusion!!!

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thank you so much!

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Anthony, Absolutely ... and they are generslly holistic!

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... as are osteopathic doctors.

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Some DOs adhere to same stuff as MDs. Unfortunately.

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Yes. Having been married to a chiropractor for 50 years, I feel like I had advanced training for withstanding this latest, more nefarious form of medical tyranny. If chiropractic was truly so unsafe, my husband’s malpractice insurance wouldn’t be less than $1,000.00 a year.

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Is it possible that allopathic 'community' is facing a loss in patient numbers? I now have, twice since summer, received in the mail surveys on 'patient satisfaction' with the practice I am signed with (into the trash unopened)--and twice a phone survey (yesterday most recent) trying to get same info. Hung up. Never had this before.

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Me too, Medicare, hospitals, now the power company. What is up with this? Taking our temperature to see how disgusted we are and how much we are catching on? My surveys are also unopened in the landfill or cyber space.

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I’m not giving them any data!

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I would say yes. I asked my herbal mentor and she said she definitely sees an increase in interest from people, and they are largely coming from a 'don't trust msmedical community anymore' space. That's both from her teaching side, so more students, and her clinical side -more patients.

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Hmm. I kept a variety of herb sections (culinary, household, medicinal) in my garden until about 20 years ago when life moved me into another direction. Four or five years ago I realized I wanted to re-establish the medicinal part, and did so in '21. What I find so interesting is that, 30 years ago, serious information on use of these herbs was scarce as hens' teeth. Now--there is so much available. I have spent so many hours taking advantage of PubMed/NIH (yes, really!) articles, and their references, to educate myself. This fall I have a shelf of dried material, tinctures, oil-extractions. And, for the first time, I am using these things. To advantage.

On the 'more students' side--I note in my own web browsings, the eagerness for medicinal herb 'courses' from people. Attesting to what your mentor mentions.

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Vote with your shoes and your wallet. They'll figure it out eventually.

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No they won't. They'll just 'double down'. Witness the higher-ups' refusal to admit that the Covid jabs are lethal.

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Everytime my husband gets home from an appt there is a survey in his email. 🙄

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Hmm again. I was actually ready to answer the previous phone survey-"she" promised to call back at 8:30 next a.m.--never did--as I was now ready to express my disgust at the practice cowering in its Covidiocy. 2nd call, yesterday?, had someone speaking so slowly that my personal clock was ticking away--she gets paid for making the call by taking my time---was she getting paid by the minute?--I asked her to speak more quickly--she seemed unable to. Just a load of 'this survey at random over XXX people in the US sponsored by some federal something or other---I asked her to skip the boilerplate and get to the questions--she didn't so I "good-bye'd" her. Decided that may as well be a verb.

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I never answer the phone or door so who knows if anyone called or came. Anyhow, I have gotten some strange mail. One was a survey that wanted to know all about my family, how much we earned, what we did, etc. It was quite invasive. They said they would send me $20 and more surveys, for which I got money/prizes. No. Hard pass. Creepy. The other pieces of junk seem to come from my insurance company: Hey- it's time for (fill in the blank with medical procedure)! I say hey, it's time for the trash can. Go away. I don't go to doctors anyhow but trust no one and nothing now.

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Wow! My doctors malpractice for him and 2 nurses was $20,000. a month! And he’s family practice- one of the cheaper categories.

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Wow! That is truly amazing.

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I work for a chiro and I agree completely. I do massage, and the combo of chiro and massage can often keep people out of surgery. It’s not great for everything, but what chiro works for, it generally works really well for.

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When my husband was in his mid-20's, he found out he had a pinched nerve. It was so bad the doctors said he needed surgery, but he was too young to have the surgery. If he did, over time, his vertebra would fail and he would need surgery after surgery. So they told him to live with the debilitating pain. He found an amazing chiropractor who healed him. Still doing fine in his 50s.

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Yes! Exactly! I remind people all the time that when scientists have looked at MRI’s of people’s spines, both with and without back pain, they look the same. Everyone has some issues, but a significant portion of them can be overcome with good treatment, like chiro, massage, PT, other exercise therapy. Where I work we offer reformer Pilates and therapy and it often makes a huge difference. People... don’t ‘become’ your diagnosis.

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Yep - treating the MRI instead of the patient led to many with “failed back syndrome.”

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We see so many of those folks, unfortunately after the failed back surgery.

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I have had two significant injuries which Drs wanted to cure with a knife( sciatica and plantar fasciitis) both were chronic ,,,,about a year in length. A message therapist eliminated each malady (which were several years apart) with one 1hour therapeutic massage…..I also learned of the lymphatic system and it’s 2 drains from this person..

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Good for you! Massage is great for some things, plantar fasciitis being one of them. Also frozen shoulder and carpal tunnel if you catch it early. Sciatica too, if it’s caused by tight hip rotators (piriformis syndrome) and not nerve compression at the spinal cord. I will say, it’s not that easy to find a massage therapist who really understands how to work on these things, but you’re most likely to find them in a chiro office or PT clinic. Or private practice, but def with a referral. Just probably less likely at a spa, even a fancy one.

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I’m searching for a new chiropractor, but my last search found one who left me feeling physically assaulted. I had a great one in California that did muscle work before adjustment and she found one where I moved and explained how to treat me, but he retired. The last one just adjusted me without muscle work and it did no good.

Any idea how I can find one that knows how to actually treat people? My neck has been out for a week causing headaches…but I’m not willing to take a chance on another one who could do more harm than good. Muscle work is so important.

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One suggestion: look for a Palmer School graduate. They've been teaching holistic methods for decades.

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Definitely. Both previous ones were trained there. Will there be a bio in their online posts? Just not sure where to look.

Thanks.

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I haven't used this feature, but maybe it will help. It's a "Find a Chiropractor" page on the Palmer School website: https://www.palmer.edu/find-a-chiropractor-map/

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Thanks for that! Now if anyone has ideas on how to find a non-Covidiot dentist.....

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Yeah, me too. I am looking. I'll pop in for a comment if I find anyone, but I am not holding my breath.

This is gross and creepy, sorry, but I actually bought special pliers to remove teeth in 2020. With what was going on, I had no idea whether society was going to completely crash or not. I knew dentists would not let people in because of the "virus", and I knew I'd rather have a way to pull a tooth if the absolute worst thing happened and I was in so much pain I wanted to die. (I have teeth problems.) Luckily, the pliers remain in the drawer and I intend to keep them there.

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Wow! Hope they can stay there.

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Very useful, thanks.

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My chiro's office also has massage and acupuncture. When I got plantar fasciitis, I went in for acupuncture. It cured it and never came back.

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I’m not surprised... Acupuncture can be similar in effect to trigger point massage work.

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I love mine. I was having hip problems when I started going 15 years ago. Turns out my hip was out of alignment. If I hadn’t started going regularly I know I would need a hip replacement now. Now I can feel when I’m out of alignment.

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I’m also a massage therapist and I totally agree!

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Do you do this type of work too?

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I do most deep tissue/injury treatment massage, often referred by a chiropractor. I’m also a certified personal trainer and yoga instructor so I can help people with strengthening & stretching exercises as well. Back surgery should be a last resort.

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Amen! It’s the best profession, IMHO

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Agreed! Former LMT here. And I was good at it, mostly bc of all the A&P I took in college prior to massage school. Unfortunately I wore out my thumbs, didn’t take care of myself 😔

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It’s definitely a profession that’s hard on the body!

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I've had frozen shoulder for a year. I was wondering if a massage therapist could help with that and if so, what should I ask for to know they can legit help me?

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There’s this..

https://blocktherapy.com/

It’s amazing

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Frozen shoulder is more about the soft tissue than a skeletal misalignment. Until you get the shoulder moving across your ribcage again, chiro probably won’t be too helpful. Try massage first, then add in chiro when you have some of the movement back. My best suggestion for finding a massage therapist is to read their website. If they use terms like ‘orthopedic’ structural’ ‘medical’ etc you might be on the right track, you can also look at the training they’ve completed. You can then call and ask if they’ve ever worked on frozen shoulder and if they successfully treated it. Be careful of ‘therapeutic’ and ‘deep tissue’ as those are more generic terms and apply to a wide range of massage techniques. Good luck! I hope you find a good fit.

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I should have also said that you’ll be more likely to find a massage therapist that does this kind of work at a chiro or PT, and you might even have insurance coverage for it. There are plenty of independent therapists that do this work too, many of whom will have a referral relationship with chiros and PTs, but it’s a good starting place.

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I agree!

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Chiropractors are the only traditional medical group that survived the Rockefeller /Flexner purge of all practitioners not allopathic pill pushers. Still mocked, hounded, and laughed at, but legally allowed to practice. The only reason they survived is they banded together as a group and sued. took years, but they eventually won.

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Yup. Which is why they can say 'this will help you' but herbalists have to dance around with 'this may support your body's natural processes, but don't take my word for it since I'm not a medical doctor'. But by golly, pharma can say 'safe and effective'!

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That is an EXCELLENT point!

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Kelli - my DC has been doing Applied Kinesiology in his practice for decades - he is actually very sad about all the deaths from the jabs. Just trying to spread light in the darkness.

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Mine too. He saved me from "modern" medicine. I have so many stories I could write a small book. So I did. ;-). (Not here to sell, so won't post it.)

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Well, I do remember Mark Levine telling about a friend who had a neck adjustment followed by a stroke and said he had heard of this too many times and wasn’t going to let anyone mess with his neck. I know this was at least 10 years ago, because Mark became too loud and bombastic for my ears a very long time ago.

Somehow that stuck with me and I don’t want any neck adjustments.

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My late mother (born in 1921) always talked about the chiropractic neck adjustment as being potentially dangerous, she believed that completely and wouldn't have it done. So it's not a new thing, she was talking about it in the 1970s.

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I am too terrified to have my neck damaged and that is why I avoid chiropractors. When I say terrified, I mean terrified. One wrong move and I never walk again, and I would rather die than have no feeling below my neck. I just can't get past it. I understand they are professionals. I understand they are talented. I understand they are a million more times honest than the entire western medical system put together. But I'm too afraid. The one time I went, the guy tried to adjust my back and it refused to crack. He told me I had to relax. I couldn't. I was too scared.

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I can relate! I’ve never gone to one.

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The only person I know of that had it happen was Kevin Sorbo. It was a crazy fluke.

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Just sharing one little tidbit that I learned from my awesome chiropractor - on back pain.

A while back, I started experiencing extreme lower back pain after a traumatic emotional event. I knew it was related to fear/anger, as I had read abut that connection many times. My Chiro did some muscle testing and then went to work my diaphragm area -- pushing and massaging trigger points associate with the diaphragm. When I stood up, the pain was completely GONE.

Here's what I gleaned from a single visit: One of the ways emotions cause back pain is that stressful events tend to make us start breathing very shallow. (Flight response.) If this goes on for a prolonged period, it can cause the diaphragm to cramp up. The diaphragm has muscles attached to it that wrap around the body and attach to both the shoulder area and the lower back. Thus, those areas can start experiencing pain if the diaphragm is cramped. So this is the "mechanism" for how emotions can indeed cause back pain.

To this day, I use any hint of back pain as a reminder to reflect on my emotional state, and start doing deep breathing exercises.

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The ones I know bought ultrasound machines and check for stenoses before manipulation. Still have the occasional vertebral artery issue, so wise to know your patient.

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#ABV

Anything but vaccine

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Medical establishment has decades of practice with SIDS! Since the 1980's crib bumpers, blankets, pillows, regular (non breathable) crib mattresses and more have been blamed for these sudden infant deaths! Oh, and money was to be made on all these new products! So right on Tanya, #ABV

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Funny how SIDS became a thing right after Harma was granted total immunity for vaxxes and kids went from a few doses to endless jabs. Correlation does NOT + causation!!!!!

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My 3 children were all born when SIDS was getting started. My babies slept on their stomachs. No bumper pads, and cribs that had drop sides. I put them in footed sleepers so a light crib blanket was all they needed. They never got colds or sick even teething, but they were never in daycare situations, I stayed home with them. They are now grown, productive adults.

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Mine slept of their bellies too, like most of God’s mammals, with bumpers and blankets and all the

things. Their heads were not

misshapen and they

never wore helmets. They had few shots, spaced way out, and never got shots if sick. I stopped doing shots altogether when they did the “hard sell” for my

girls to get the HPV Gardisil 1, which has since been discontinued. I just had bad feelings and went researching. OH MY WORD. Boy, if I had it to do again. they’d never get ONE shot.

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If I had it to do again my kids would have gotten no shots either. Back then the shots were spaced out. There was no chicken pox vaccine, so all 3 had it at the same time. I also quit when they wanted my youngest, a girl to get a Hepatitis shot at 12. Enough of that. It was actually then I became wary of the “more is better” vaccines.

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Same here

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My granddaughter wore a helmet because of her flattened head on one side. Dumbest thing I had ever heard. But my DIL insisted. She panicked if my grand daughter rolled over in her sleep to lay on her stomach. 🙄

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SO sad. I sometimes wonder whether the fact they got so many to fall for THAT but if ridiculousness is what have them the gumption to shoot for the whole Plandemic load of HOOEY.

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So many of us!!!

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Most SIDS deaths occur within 14 days of childhood vaccines. Fact.

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A friend of mine had a small day care years ago and an infant died with SIDS under her care one day. The parents blamed her, she never got over the guilt, her day care was shut down. Did I mention the infant had just gone to "well baby care?"....we know what that means! Never a word about the multiple vaccines! After all these years I'm still angry this poor woman who was absolutely not at fault was thrown under the bus!😡

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SO sad.

Ever noticed how pups, kittens, most of God’s mammals with 2 holes to breathe out of sleep? It’s a “piggy pile”! No one sleeps alone, without covers or cushions, and if their breathing is stopped, they instinctively move their nose or mouth to breathe.

Meanwhile is SIDS land, they say SIDS went down 44% since back to sleep became a thong BUT if you read carefully, a NEW thing called SUDS (Sudden UNEXPLAINED Death…) rose 40%. Hmmmm… Isn’t SUDS and SIDS pretty

much one in the

same?

Send your friend some books like TURTLES ALL the WAY DOWN.

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How awful for her!

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Now we have SADS.

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Rhymes with VAIDS?

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I just read that Elon Musks first child (a son) died of SIDS. um, ok...... I live in Texas where the "conspiracy theory" was born. Something about it just tastes funny. I probably should have been born in Seattle so I would never have to think such things.

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Robert Redford's first son died of SIDS in 1959 at the age of 2 months. I doubt if there were a vaccine connection, because I don't think many childhood vaccines were being given to infants in 1959. Polio would have been given later, more towards school age, I think. One suggestion I read about SIDS was this: "The exact cause is unknown, but it is attributed to improper development of the part of the brain in charge of breathing and waking from sleep." I guess scientists/doctors still don't know.

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I found childhood vaccination schedule for 1960 (couldn't find 1959.) Looks like babies were receiving multiple doses of DPT at 1 1/2 months, 2 months and 3 months. Then 2 more doses at 1 and 3 years old.

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The DPT in those day was MORE dangerous than what is given today, supposedly.

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Being ornery cusses opposed to anything promoted by US govt, we used for our children, and now for visiting grandchildren, the crib purchased by my parents-in-law for their first, born 1949.

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Remember the ratio is at least 10 to 1. One dollar made selling the vaccines, $10 made selling the remedies to the side effects of the vaccines.

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Don’t forget to include honey as a cause for SIDS. Now the antidote for SIDS is to force the infant to sleep on their back and to never ever be allowed to sleep near their parents as the parent(mom) may inadvertently smother the baby 😳. But of course it’s verboten to consider that vaccines are causing SIDS. Medical community is silently complicit in this malfeasance.

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Read that as Alcohol By Volume. Maybe I should stop drinking beer...

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Tripple 8.5%

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AnythingButDa’Shots!!

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News Anchor reports "safe and effective" then passes away. Dr Birx in her book admitted they didn't know if they were safe and effective but they still stated they were. Birx still faces no consequences for this fraud.

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And I predict that she never will. Pharma killers fail up.

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“I am running out of ways to adequately describe the intensity of my eye-rolling when I research these stories, but I saw the back of my skull this time. From the inside.”

Me too 🙄

What’s a moderate liberal?

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> What’s a moderate liberal?

They allow you to finish your sentence before screaming and name-calling?

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If THAT'S it - I sure as shooting don't know any!

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Yea. Sounds about right.

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🤣🤣🤣

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Agree. I eye roll so much that I hope it doesn't affect my vision. Lol.

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Think of it as exercise for your eyes.

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"Sometimes I roll my eyes so hard I see my corpus callosum."

"I rolled my eyes so hard I almost detached my retina."

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... So much it's frozen that way. Mom was right but she didn't know how wrong it was going to be!

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You need shoulder pads to answer that one.

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In the last 6 months, everytime someone from our family goes to the family doctor, they reveal more of their stance on vaccines. Why to our family? My guess? No one in the family took the Covid shot, so they feel safe discussing it with us. Their office; will no longer recommend the Covid vaccine, take the Covid vaccine, is ticked off they and entire staff were forced to get it or lose their jobs, won't recommend the RSV vaccine (too new, they don't know long term side effects- the doc is catching on), doesn't recommend the shingles vaccine (there are effective treatments if you promptly see the doc), and thinks the pharmaceutical industry is a bunch of money grubbing scums. They still recommend the flu and childhood vaccines, but hey, it's a great start to the dismantling of the vaccine zombie thought process.

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That "wait and see" attitude was mine for the mRNA shots. Well, that turned into "these things don't work" and now into "and they have some pretty bad side-effects". I'll admit that attitude started a little with getting insanely overpriced "brand new" drugs prescribed that insurance wouldn't even begin to cover so I pushed back for the old/generic ones. But I remember my sister talking about research pharmacy work and how it made her feel dirty so that was another reason to wait.

That office _should_ be ticked off that they were given a bad choice of "take the shot or lose your job". I know that if most people had banded together and said "no" we wouldn't be in this mess, but that's a hard thing to do when you have to provide for the family. :(

I agree that this is at least getting people to think. Might be worth asking about Gardisil and if they like that one as a small prompt to encourage some more deep thinking. :) My wife had read up on that when it was being pushed hard here and we still have to tell the doctors "no" at the checkups.

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I'm thankful for a doc that years ago took that "wait and see" attitude to Gardisil for my daughter. It started me down a path of questioning.

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A big part of the situation is that people believe that one must be in debt to prosper, and that this is valid and necessary for the economy. Debt is slavery.

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Took my daughter in and got charged for a two hour visit which included 30 min of vaxx sales, much repeating of medical pharmaceutical information because he just graduated and English is his second language and an hour with the nurse who tried to get us onto OBummerCareNot. 😡 We just didn't need that this year.

And I thought 20-22 was bad. 😭

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You were charged for attempted indoctrination? What next ....

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Shingles, HIV and Flu shot also has mRNA in it from what I have read. My brother in law lives with us and got the flu shot 2 years ago, got the flu and gave his flu to us.

I told him the COVID jab had nanoparticles in it and he laughed at me. I am now even more convinced it is The MARK of the beast.

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Sudden deaths must be due to the mysterious new F-16 disease that has impacted the Air Force.

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Yes but he had the wherewithall to bail and be rescued and live. I smell another way for the military to drain money into the vast ocean of ruining US.

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Clearly, it jumped to helicopters and on to ground crew.

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Just a comment as to our wonderful AG here in Missouri...he is awesome! Anyway, I had a post removed from FB this week. One I had posted back in April. It was an article about a bill in our legislature pertaining to marking what is in our food...something everyone should be concerned about. Not a spam post, an actual article about a bill going their our Missouri legislature session. I want to know if I'm buying real meat or fake. Anyway, they removed my post because they said I didn't follow the rule that your can not post for likes or double comment. As if my post was receiving thousands of likes....LOL..most of my post might get 10. I can not find the original article now or I would post it again! I've had plenty of post marked with their fact check but this one took the cake!

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Great minds think alike! I live in MO., too, and just wrote a comment about AG Bailey. I’ve also been concerned about HB1169 which was the bill calling for labeling of meat that had been injected with mRNA, either into the livestock or during process. That bill never made it out of committee thanks to lobbyists who put pressure on the representatives to vote no. My representative, Sherri Gallick, voted no, despite repeated calls and emails by her constituents to get that law passed. Mike Hafner is another RINO who voted no and he’s going to run against Rick Brattin for state senator. Brattin is doing a great job! Hafner has gone along with the Dems more than the GOP. Also, I’m voting for Eiger for Governor. A solid conservative unlike the other 2 candidates. Thank you for your comment!

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There must be a special place for lobbyists...they affect and persuade way too much in our world.

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Yes, they sure do. Our representative in District 62 is a puppet for the lobbyists. Just look at where their campaign donations come from.

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Yes Bill Eigel for MO governor

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Tell everyone you know and anyone who can donate anything at all, should do so!

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Bill came to one of our Faith and Freedom meetings...a wonderful man and has 100% of my support. Thank you for helping my brain out with the name of the bill...HB1169. I just knew it needed to have a no vote and wanted folks to call their reps...guess FB didn't want that to happen.

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Actually it needed a yes vote to move the bill from the committee to the floor! The yes vote would require labeling of meat products that had mRNA in it.

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You are correct. I miss typed...just still in awe that FB removed it.

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I’ve never been on crapbook; Zuckerberg, that cocky a**hole censors anything he disagrees with.

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As my brother has said “Facebook is evil”. Couldn’t agree more, I ONLY use it for business and to catch up on local things happening, otherwise I’d be GONE! It’s not to be taken seriously as Jeff knows, that’s where I first read his posts, his hands were slapped so many times I’m shocked he doesn’t have scars 🤦🏻‍♀️ thank goodness for Substack!

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I had a post removed (but they couldn't show it to me, so I would know my 'transgression'), and several other FB friends and acquaintances had the same experience. Then today, a memory post of mine from this date last year pops up, in which I said, "Cruise my timeline to see what FB is suppressing so that you won't see it."

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I got off of Fakebook 2 1/2 years ago. I miss some people but not the dictatorship.

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and mine!

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This is my life!

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They just did the same to me 2 days ago re a truth post I put up. It's just Meta's alive and well censorship. They're not even TRYING to give real reasons for rejections any more!

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Two things you need to do if you truly want to know the truth about the current wars in Ukraine and Israel. Follow Coleen Rowley on FB and watch Judge Nap interviews on You Tube. You will be surprised in what you hear. Make sure to check the credentials on the people writing and being interviewed too. The US Press is lying to you. Gee what a shocker huh?

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Almost all the news during the Vietnam War was fakey BS. The Americans were losing hard and finally retreated after a massive loss with over 58K dead troops. Only years later did we hear how 'news from the front' was just manipulation.

Same for Afghan war.

Same for Ukraine war. The western news is totally captured.

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See book Secrets by San Ellsberg , Pentagon Papers a real eye opener. After reading this nothing about the media plunder should make you even raise an eyebrow.

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Sorry Dan not San. Whistleblower Vietnam War. Covid vaccine deaths, 100’s of thousands of American troops sent to their deaths knowingly. Most done to save political face.

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Matthew Hoh, Ray McGovern, Philip Giraldi, Scott Horton, Coleen Rowley always seem to be on the accurate side of foreign policy. They can be heard in the video link. Coleen is another story. A heroic figure in her own right. Go read about them all and see and hear for yourself. They are true patriots and truth tellers.

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not the Heroic Israeli Defense Fund. they have a great record of bombing a group of Captive Civilians with no miliitary.

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My Dad, a WWII vet, snorted when I asked if the numbers out of VN were correct. Battle of _________ today. 29 Viet Cong killed, 2 injuries of Americans. My Dad said ‘believe nothing and almost for certain the Americans are losing massive amounts of personnel.’

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Or you could take a wild ride on the Dubble-NN Express! W00T-W00T!!

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I asked Double-NN a question last time I saw him on here . I asked him if he had gotten his share of the loot being funneled back to the Biden cartel. He never did answer me.......

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Must suck being a paid asset….he dont come round much and when he does its like he’s flinching before impact. Good.

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All he does is accuse. Remind you of something?

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😆

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Poor guy. Sometimes I feel bad for him. Then nah!

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Yeah no...NPC trolls deserve no sympathy.

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lol! RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!

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Not much lately. Some effort to massage public perception of self with references to using not one, but two, gas-guzzlers (maybe purchasing from LUK oil?--one can hope).

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All I need to know is 'border invasion' plus 'trying to kill us every which way' here at home. Throw in as you say ... everything is a lie. And I've had a belly full.

We don't have a country unless we reclaim it. And a tall order.

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You talking about Neapolitano?

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Trust a child molester and a guy who is bitter over being rejected for a brigade command?

Sure.

657 days into the 2 day war now!

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Serious, non-confrontational question, Benjamin. Has all our money and assistance helped in any way? It seems to me that the country is destroyed. I am totally onboard with those in Congress who are refusing to give more aid until our own border is secured. I know that will never happen, however, because the plan is to destroy our country. Also because few have the guts to do the things that are so needed at this time.

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I, for one, am Prepared to meme my support for Ukraine until the last Ukraine building falls. I will fly my Ukraine flag no matter how many Ukrainians die. Because...I am virtuous. (Nothing good has come of this. A negotiated settlement should have happened and NATO should not be in Ukraine any more than the Warsaw Pact countries should set up bases in Mexico.)

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I agree, Mystic. We've spent billions defending Ukraine's border while ours is wide open. We forced a toxic shot on our own people, while allowing illegals to come in without it. Not that I want them to be jabbed, but the hypocrisy and sheer evil of our own government is maddening.

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It's been an absolute lifesaver and has proven pivotal in stopping Russian meat assaults in Avdiivka. See below. Russia is losing about 1500-2000 men a week in one section of the front trying to take the Ukrainian city of Avdiivka which has been on the front lines since 2014 and on the front line since the war started.

https://t.me/spook_boys/5779

People look and say "Oh! Ukraine couldn't retake all of the conquered territories!" and point to the 16% held by Russia. Reminder: Russia declared victory over Ukraine on February 26th, 2022 and had to eat that and withdraw the statement because they weren't going to take the capitol but instead were in full flight away.

Well, you're forgetting about the 84% of Ukraine that is Russian soldier free. Russia suffered enormous defeats during the battle of Kyiv (the most pivotal one where Russia lost the battle to take Kyiv), Hostomel (safeguarding the northern routes), Trostianets, Kharkiv (Counteroffensive), Kherson (Counteroffensive), and at the same time defeating Russia's winter offensive of 2023 (which people here said would sweep Ukraine off the map) and the winter offensive of 2024 which intended to take Avdiivka.

The country is still exporting grain and did millions of tons last month and this month. Ukrainians are selling pieces of russian tanks on Ebay, Facebook, and instagram for money because there's 2548 lost russian tanks and they litter the countryside.

The big prize for putin is the capital since he is very deep into history and would allow him to claim ownership of the originally Kyivan Rus and rewrite history and claim himself as the Tsar who united the empire. Ukraine and the west are stopping that. Putin doesn't want just part of Ukraine, he wanted all of it and when he saw Biden's incompetence and weakness after the Afghanistan debacle he knew the time was right.

The creator of this blog is pretty big on Russia and supports' putins aims so much so that he ignores a lot of stuff that's going on. Nobody complained when we were running training missions with the Ukrainians under Trump or sending lethal aid to help them fight Russia. They only became the bad guys when the "right wing" needed to be oppositionist. I've got a piece of a Russian tank the guys we trained sent me that was killed in northern Ukraine during the first months of the war. It's absolutely priceless to me.

Russia lost a submarine, a flagship, 6 transport ships, a couple other major surface vessels, and a 14,000 vehicles in a land war they claim they're winning.

Russia is the super power and should have been able to take Ukraine easily..yet they did not. They anticipated being hailed as liberators by the common Ukrainian which did not turn out to be true.

Russia wins by taking Ukraine like they claimed to on day 2 of the war.

Ukraine wins by surviving largely intact which they are doing now.

Putin has already had one armed revolt against him by the world's largest neo-nazi army and his owner private mercenary force and that was at 200k dead/wounded. They're over 300k now and the last time a president or "Tsar" was in power they were in a war and had just passed 500k dead when the Russian revolution happened and the tsar was executed.

Putin remembers that.

The border will never be secure when the potato is in office.

Cutting off allies is not the correct thing to do. Few people here rail against Biden's feckless spending. Everyone rails against Ukraine aid. Well, Ukraine aid was 60ish billion last year and we had enormous successes and that's even factoring in Biden's incompetence and slow rolling of vital gear.

The consequences of allowing Ukraine to fall mean more nuclear weapons in the world because of the Budapest memorandum..which Russia violated, by the way.

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I appreciate your thoughtful response.

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I remember the 3 day war, but now it’s two days? Way to up the ante Benji!!

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I decided to simply go with the Russian version since they declared victory on day 2. Sometimes I’ll be nice and give them the benefit as a professional of an extra 24 hours..sometimes not

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As a professional what? You get paid to comment on here, or what?

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Yeah pretty much....total tossed, but fun to razz now and again.

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I think the N stands for Noses.

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I know how to handle logistical plans.

C&C's favorite conquering army hasn't figured out how to not get droned or nor commit war crimes.

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Professional “mark” 😂

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Professional warrior, pool guy, it's whatever...

..but ya'll actually believe Russia is winning, so there's a mark made every minute.

Don't forget to get your Sputnik shot. Putin approved.

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As a professional who knows to have a backup plan and make sure your tanks have a full load of fuel and ammunition, don't believe people who are conditioned to tell you Yes, and don't start wars against people faced with genocide.

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Because if you ARE a professional here, therefore getting paid to comment, I want to know how to get that gig too.

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I’m a professional warrior (soldier or marine, your pick).

You think too much that the evil cia is out to get you. Stop worrying and

Enjoy the free speech you have that Russians don’t.

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Benn, everyone gets free speech here, I was just questioning the "professional" part. Professionals, unlike amateurs, get paid to do what they do. Do you get paid to make comments on here, is all I'm asking

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I don’t. Never have.

I was lead here through a military anti Covid shot group on Facebook.

They failed to mention the part where the content creator supports tyrants though.

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Again begs the question, NN:

Did you get your share of the loot being funneled back from Ukraine to the Biden Cartel ? Because you sure have beat the drums for them to get every last penny we have!

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None..I do get a nice check 2x a month though from you guys, so thank you.

I enjoy seeing bad things happen to bad guys.

Don't forget to get your sputnik shot, it's putin approved.

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A few months ago Biden said Russia has already lost yet now he's begging for more billions for Ukraine. Why do you think that is?

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Russia lost the war already when Zelenskyy refused to run and Russia suffered large defeats in Kharkiv and Kherson.

Right now it's just determining where the lines fall.

After the battle of midway the IJN was defeated as a force but still had the ability for combat operations, just nothing involving large operations like Midway.

The aid is necessary to make sure the gains made still exist and keep them fighting.

Jeff still asks for donations and subscribers even thought Covid's over.

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Haha, Zelensky has been running all over the planet, begging and snorting his way through western capitals. He's a failed comedian that wears the same clown costume, the green sweater, yet he, as far as the world knows, hasn't killed one Russian invader. He's like Lindsey, Vickie and the rest of the neo-con swamp-scum, a gutless coward hiding being people that probably just want to be left alone.

If you think that's winning, odds are you think men can get pregnant. Did you go to school in Seattle?

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He doesn't have to kill an invader because he's the president. That's one of the perks of being the boss. He's not a soldier. That's not his job. He's got a lot of other guys who are and it's their job to do soldierly stuff. Ukraine's industry is non existent due to Russian bombing and they do not have sufficient capability to manufacture the necessary weapons and ordnance to fight Russia. Of course, they're the weaker party here.

But Russia? You conveniently ignore that Putin went begging to Iran, Myanmar, China, and North Korea for aid and weapons and still lost a flagship, submarine, a half dozen transports, and a bunch of major surface vessels and 14,000 vehicles and 315k men....and still can't take the capitol. .

Did Winston churchill have to get out there and lead men in the trenches? No. He traveled to the USA and got lend lease..while wearing a green military uniform.

I was raised in a strict Christian home and went to a Bible College and got a degree from there.

ASSuming things makes an ASS out of you before it does me.

The comedian is making a clown out of putin. Seems like he's doing a good job.

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Thx for the tip

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People need to wake up.

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Judge napolitano@judgingfreedom.

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Ask napoltiano why Putin hasn’t won yet.

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The judge is the ultimate neocon. Was impressed maybe the first four times he opened his mouth on fox. Then, not so much. Especially after he threw trump and anyone associated with him under the bus.

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Watch the videos and pay attention to the guests. What you just said is not accurate

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Corley - Judge Nappy? ...NO thanks! 😖

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Look at the guests. It’s not about him.

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I better watch before they disappear...

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Anna Cardwell may have been on Ozempic or similar weight loss drugs over the last few years. These drugs admittedly cause benign tumors in the adrenals. Makes me wonder if the vaccine caused these tumors to become malignant and turn turbo. Scary because many people are taking these drugs.

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Very logical. Of course, the docs won't have a clue because they are so educated.

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I went temporarily blind reading about that test.... It took me some time to figure out how to roll my eyes back to the front.

Absurd is not even the correct word to describe this. How much are grown ups twisting themselves into pretzels in order to teach this nonsense when they themselves growing up and I'm sure somewhere in their woke filled hearts know with 100000% certainty that all this is wrong.

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I think they entertain no internal doubts. They are true believers in this nonsense. It is rooted in a spiritual condition called paganism.

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I had the stroke discussion with my chiro over 20 years ago. Canadian news was all over it for about 10 minutes. DC explained just how many strokes he would have caused, had the news stats been correct.

His busy practice had never had a post- adjustment stroke. Ever.

Media stats! Hah!

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#ABV

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"Safe and effective" my butt.. Fully jabbed and boosted AND very proud recipient of the new RSV "vaccine", a fellow resident of my dad's community, just got diagnosed with colon cancer. It is so far advanced they will not even try to treat it. He's home on opioids, waiting to die. This September and October, when I was staying with my dad because of an injury he had, I had lunch with a bunch of residents every week. He was one of them. He had to use a rollator because of back issues but other than that, was fine. I suspect this will be turbo cancer since they are not even bothering to try to help him. Anyone who says turbo cancer is not real can kiss my toe.

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I just got the sad news that my young sister-in law has stage 4 breast-now bone cancer. She was Stage 1 in September, Stage 2 in October, now it is not curable. She just turned 40 in Oct, the day of her biopsy.

Fully vaxed. I am losing 5 close family members to this shot, one by one.

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Please look at the fenbendazole ivermectin protocol. 2nd smartest guy in the world here on Substack has written about it extensively. People are curing their own cancer. It can't hurt and it's definitely worth a shot. Also see Covid and Candy stack for a similar protocol. Good luck and hope she gets better.

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Dr. Linda Vadhat at Sloan Kettering is using Tetrathiomolybdate for her Triple Negative breast cancer patients with great results. Also Dr. Mark Rosenberg in Boca Raton Florida is using this same repurposed drug to eliminate my husband’s stage 4 colon cancer within four months of starting treatment. He’s been cancer free for a year and a half and playing golf 3 times a week.

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Wow thanks for the heads up Peggy! And God bless you and your husband.

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Awesome! I am very happy to hear that. The man I mentioned in my dad's building and the man's wife, unfortunately, are 100% brainwashed. It's "the science" or nothing. That will cost him his life.

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I hate hitting the like button and will be praying for your family. The only person who was vaxxed in my family was my husband and he died in Sept 2022. The rest of us listened to the Holy Spirit who said, "No!" Each of us have a responsibility to speak out and tell our story good or bad. The lies and deception must be exposed. Story by story by story.

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Sorry to hear (read) about your husband. So much grief in these threads.

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So heartbreaking 😞

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I'm so sorry, I can't imagine how painful it is for you to witness.

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😪 So sorry!

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I’m so sorry about your SIL! If they haven’t offered any options, and it sounds like they aren’t, maybe she should try fenben or turkey tail mushrooms. I learned about the mushrooms from this film, where Paul Stametz reports that his mother was diagnosed with stage 4 terminal breast cancer and that she was healed by his mushroom protocol. Worth a look: https://fantasticfungi.com/film/. Praying for her and for you!

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Sorry to hear this.

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I am so sorry!

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I listened to a Mike Rowe podcast recently. He was interviewing his 85 year old mom, which he does frequently about Thanksgiving at the assisted living facility, she and his 90 year old dad live at. The discussion was wide ranging, but got around to she had recently gotten her Covid-19 booster. I could tell Mike wasn’t quite on board with the shots, but he asked her how she felt. She said she felt achey and feverish for a couple of days but was OK now. Then she mentioned getting her shingles shot in a couple of weeks. She had had shingles a decade or more ago, gotten the shingles shot a few years ago and her doctor told her it was time for a new one. Mike asked his mom how she felt after the first shingles shot and she replied like she had been kicked by a horse, but it was better to feel crappy a day or two, then to get shingles again. If shingles comes from a dormant chicken pox virus, (as doctors claim), why weren’t more people getting it 30, 40 years ago when virtually everyone had chicken pox as kids? And why are you not immune to shingles once you’ve had it? Mike was not sure about the covid booster, but said he should probably look into getting a shingles shot. We still trust our doctors too often….

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I think one benefit from the scamdemic is there are some who stopped trusting doctors as a result. I never did to begin with but the scamdemic nailed that coffin shut for me. Older folks came from a time when doctors were still honorable, so they trust them. Now I think there are too many doctors who only follow a narrative, but the older folks don't want to believe that. At least dad got talked out of flu and RSV "vaccines". My badgering had something to do with it, but it really was him reading C&C that did it I think.

I wonder that about shingles too. I never had chickenpox despite my mom sitting my by my brother when he had it.

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About older folks trusting doctors; most of the dumb, hick, redneck, southern country folk, who were my elders, called them ‘pill pushers’ even back then.

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They were (and are) smarter than the "educated" ones up here, then, and my hat is off to them! I think my dad is one of the only people who refused the "boosters" in his building the rest = sheep.

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What is desperately missing these days, is common sense! I know far too many old folks who got the newer shingles vax and all got shingles. Two were so sick they had to be hospitalized! My MD hubby says the same, "I know too many people who got that vax and got shingles! NO MORE VACCINATIONS FOR ME AND ANYONE I CAN CONVINCE TO GET OFF THAT TRAIN!" Our dear 90 yr old friend refused anymore boosters after the first. Her doctor even agreed with her, a miracle, no doubt! She's got a rash on her ankles that started on one and soon showed up on the other....after a week. Her dermatologist said, "take benadryl." She told her derm she's miserable... she said her immune system is shot... the derm responded, "well this a virus..." Ok. 🙄

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