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Sunnydaze's avatar

This is a modern day David vs Goliath if I’ve ever seen one. Our family went through a similar David vs Goliath 10 years ago. We had to take on the State Of Oregon for the right to make a medical decision for our 18 year old special needs daughter. They actually called us days before the surgery and threatened to sue us, the surgeon, and the hospital if we proceeded. We had legal guardianship and were told by the States Attorney we had no authority to make this decision for our DAUGHTER!

We are fighters. We grabbed our sling shot and stone and it took long 18 months. So much prayer went into the whole process. We could not even find a lawyer across the country that had experience in this kind of case and we had no money to pay for it! The attorney we hired was a patent/intellectual property attorney who heard the case and said he would take it and we would figure out the money later. What lawyer says THAT! 😂

Long story short- We won! We were David and Oregon was Goliath. We haven’t backed down to a government since! Just because they are the Goliath of all governments - doesn’t make them right! FIGHT PEOPLE! We HAVE to fight!

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RunningLogic's avatar

What a fantastic testament to determination and commitment to truth and righteousness!!! 🤩

My David vs Goliath story is less individual, but in the early 1990s, my family and hundreds of citizens in my county fought against NY Governor Mario Cuomo and his siting commission, who were trying to force or sweet talk my county (one of the poorest in the state, naturally), to put in a nuclear waste dump. Through a lot of hard work, dozens of protests and arrests, clever strategy and sheer willpower, the siting commission was finally forced to give up. It was amazing, because so many people thought that ordinary citizens could never win against big government. And yet we did, with God’s grace 🙏❤️

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AusYank's avatar

I also won a David vs. Goliath case, the lawsuit read (me and my wife's names) versus The United States of America. It was a tax matter, I went to the local law library for a month and found a procedural fault. Once we presented it to them, we received a letter. "Instead of a $450,000 tax lien, we will accept a payment of $4000". I wrote back and said I did not appreciate being extorted by my government because they knew $4000 would be less than my further court costs, but because I was gracious and magnanimous in victory I would make a counteroffer of $400. They accepted. I also demanded a letter on Treasury letterhead, signed as I recall by the state Attorney General (Calif), stating that this matter was now permanently closed and that anyone who wanted for any reason to confirm that in the future should contact him. I received that letter too.

But America should understand: you are carrying the torch of freedom for the entire world. You must not fail.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

This is fantastic!!! I love hearing this! Thank you for standing up like that! 💪🏻

I’m thinking of starting a blog where people like us can share our stories of battles and victories won against Goliaths to spread courage to stand! 🙌

Thank you for sharing!

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RunningLogic's avatar

That is an excellent idea!!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I know there are more of us who’ve gone into battle. Maybe not all against the government but still David and Goliath which we can gain courage from hearing too. I’m working on it 😉

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ooh I love this!! You are awesome!! So glad that you won, thank you for sharing your victory with us all here!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

That is awesome!!! I love hearing how you fought back as a community. We are so conditioned to think the govt will win so why try. And honestly, without God going before us I don’t see victory. God was with David when he stood up to Goliath. Every event in the Bible that God was leading - they won. I can’t say I heard the voice of God say go fight Oregon. But I knew what was right and wrong. And I knew the govt was wrong and what we were doing was right so I knew God would go before us. And that’s how we prayed every step of the way….and that’s what happened. It wasn’t easy. None of it was. It was a battle every step of the way.

Per the school district our daughters teachers at school were put under a gag order WITH US! They were not even allowed to discuss any of it with us and we’re not allowed to talk to our attorney! Our lawyer had to subpoena the teacher! And he told us he never puts anyone on the stand if he doesn’t know what they will say first so he really hesitated but trusted us when we told him what she was going to say. That teacher (from the Judges own words in the decision) had the biggest impact on the judges decision!!

The whole thing was so crazy!

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RunningLogic's avatar

I agree with you, when we do what is truly right and just, God is on our side. I really hate reading comments here and elsewhere saying that we can never win, it’s all rigged, etc. So what do we do then? Just give up?? Just let them do what they will?? For my part, I am NOT just going to give up like that!!!!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Yes! THIS ⬆️

I feel the same way. I get discouraged too, absolutely, and sometimes feel like what’s the use….but I never stay in that place.

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LMWC's avatar

We need to hear stories like yours and RL’s for those of us that may need that same courage at a later date. And it was done in blue states!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Yes! Do not lose hope!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Totally normal to feel discouraged sometimes, we’re only human after all! But yes, always get past that to keep on fighting!!

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MaryAnn's avatar

We serve a big God. He is bigger than any problem Satan throws at us. Your faith is an astounding testimony. ❤️

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Freebird's avatar

I’m inspired by you gals! We need to find like-minded people in our communities and join together to make our voices heard. Here’s a story about trans rights activists protesting at the Oklahoma capitol because they are working on legislation to protect children from mutating surgeries. When 150 of those turn out to protest, we need to show up with at least twice that number to counter protest, to let them, and the world know that we outnumber them and we will not be silent and allow our values to be trampled on any longer.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/02/07/pro-trans-demonstrators-occupy-oklahoma-capitol-protest-bill-defending-children/

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I agree.

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Freebird's avatar

I’m glad we have people like you on our side Sunnydaze!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Thank you. I think there’s a lot of us. 💪🏻

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Sarah Bee's avatar

Wow. Chills reading this. Thank you for sharing.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

You’re welcome. 😊 Thanks for reading it 😉

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Julie Ann B's avatar

God bless you Sunnydaze and may we all use your example of courage and determination and fortitude to fight our battles against the wicked and our enemies.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Thank you 😊 I really hope this and what RunningLogic shared can help energize people to stand up for what’s right too.

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SunnyRai's avatar

⚠️ but..... Hell to the YES!!! Awesome story. Know it wasn't easy and plenty of sleepless nights, but when you stand for what is right, you prevail. As a mother, I know you didn't see but only one option, and that was to battle Oregon. Proud of you and your family, and that lawyer! Sheesh! Paving the way, your case has set precedence and will help others! 🙌👊

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Thank you. And the attorney was awesome! And his bill came to $18,000 (he agreed to let me help with leg work to try and keep cost down, so I did a lot of work) and he lowered it to $10k for us to make it more manageable and let us make payments of our choosing. God provided and we paid him every month on time. When it was paid he said to me “I wish all my clients would pay their bill like you guys. I have clients worth millions of dollars and I can’t get them to pay.”

That is true. One path forward. On the initial phone call with the States Attorney I was livid and my only response to him was that they messed with the wrong family and I would see them in court!

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Barbara ( Portlander😵‍💫)'s avatar

I live in Oregon too and know the struggles here.

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daverkb's avatar

Deer Ab-bee,

Or-it-gone? Are-we-gon? Does anyone know how to spell Erh?WeGune?

Yours Truly,

Dyxlexik in Virginnia

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Jacquie's avatar

It’s “Or uh gun”. But, yes in some ways they are gone. Just visit Portland. The suburbs and rural areas aren’t as bad.

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daverkb's avatar

You may have nailed it! Congrats ...

I grew up in upstate New York, but haven't been back in well over forty years excepting to Kennedy International. The rural upstate areas were much better. I'm in Virginia now, but I sure do wish it was more like Florida.

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