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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Great point. Why NOT protect OUR borders with OUR federal troops rather than sacrifice their lives on somebody else’s border? (Is that loud enough?) I thought domestic defense was the fundamental reason for having a standing army. If we don’t want to make America great again, can we at least make America safe?

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SomeDude's avatar

in the context of defending our own borders, the last 70ish years of US military foreign "interventions" is a direct refutation of the post-WWII name change from War Department to the wholly inaccurate Department of Defense

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Utterly Orwellian.

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Tom's avatar

If only someone had a tee . . .

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Fla Mom's avatar

On 9/11, I rhetorically asked my fellow Army officers if they thought we'd go back to being the Department of War again.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Good point, thanks.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I think it will take the regular people (soldiers in this case) to stand up against these atrocities. If they en masse refuse to fight in a foreign country against people that have done nothing, this will end. If the officers refuse to go and refuse to put their soldiers in harm's way, this will end. The ones that command are little. We are many. Wake up and stop obeying orders. (Listening carefully, if CIA might be at my door)

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Willing Spirit's avatar

As we said in the hippie days, “What if they threw a war and nobody came?”

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I suspect if our military starts filling the ranks with illegal aliens, we’ll see some mass refusals of orders.

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Just the opposite will happen. All loyal American soldiers will be discharged or killed. These illegals will do as their told

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Jamie's avatar

Yes, I fear that is the point. They want people who will obey and support the agenda.

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STH's avatar

Maybe? But I could just as easily see them go awol and run back to their native countries.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Having no loyalty can be a double edged sword. If they feel like they are not getting enough out of it and putting themselves in too much danger they may well flee 🤷‍♀️

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Unless their training includes trauma-based or neuralink-like implants or what we don't know kind of mind control. I know, crazy tin foil hat wearing conspiracy. People said for decades MK Ultra was a conspiracy theory. Nope. 'Nother one that turns out to be a genuine thing.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes not impossible, it’s always good to consider all the possibilities.

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Leo's avatar

...or rebel...

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes that too!

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RunningLogic's avatar

People can be predictable sometimes but not always. You can’t 100% count on them doing as you expect or as they are told.

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james abitz's avatar

you believe soldiers will stand up against these atrocities?

yet women athletes won’t stand up (or sit down) to the men competing and kicking their asses in their own sports!

i appreciate your optimism but it’s not gonna happen.

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liz's avatar

some are but women are still too trained to submit to AUTHORITY, usually male.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

and their wallet of course. if they stand up they lose their income. they are no better off than any of those losing their job for refusing to jab.

May be I got pink glasses on, but I rather look through the pink side of life ! Optimism has kept me alive for 66 years LOL

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liz's avatar

<3 <3 works for me! for 71 yrs!

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DMang's avatar

I see this happening in Ukraine if the deeply unpopular “butcher” bows to the will of unpopular Presidents Zelenskyy and Biden and continues to force more men and women into the meat grinder. Everyone has a breaking point.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

let us hope they get their mind and willpower together before no Ukrainians are left

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Kim's avatar

Why do you think Biden, Durbin & rest of commies want the thousands of military age border invaders to enlist in US military? Foreign troops won’t hesitate to turn on US citizens.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

if they want to enlist. are you sure they want to enlist? I think a fair amount fled their countries so they do not have to enlist there. That is how it was when all these young Syrians flooded into Europe, according to a few elders of these kids

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Antonia Shusta's avatar

So do you think we should simply let Russia take over Ukraine - what happens when they invade Poland? Germany? You think we should have stayed out of WWII and let Hitler have Britain as well as all of Western Europe?

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

listen again to the history of Ukraine. And read who supported Hitler, Lenin and Trotsky

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Antonia Shusta's avatar

So that’s a reason to enable a dictator to take over whatever European country he wants at this time? How much do you know about what’s going on in Russia today - or you just believe Putin’s regime is A-okay?

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AngelaK's avatar

Umm..that isn’t happening nor will it.

This is msm propaganda hysteria.

Do you know history of the region at all?

I did. It is complicated but Putin gave a nice little history lesson yesterday for the majority of American people who do not know.

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Antonia Shusta's avatar

And not only do I know something about the history I have family in the region.

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AngelaK's avatar

Western Ukraine?

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Antonia Shusta's avatar

Yeah but those Americans have no idea what goes on in Russia today! This interview normalizes his brutality and emboldens him because he sees a new fan club in the west. He must be euphoric today with so many supporters!

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

if you know then tell us

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WIMomof3's avatar

Somebody needs to watch the interview

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RunningLogic's avatar

“Safe” as long as it’s our definition and not theirs!

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

Are you referring to ‘safe’ as in the concocted new definition of the word by the psychos over the kill shots? Safe being relative?

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RunningLogic's avatar

I just don’t want it to be misinterpreted by those who’ve changed it’s meaning to “stay in your homes and let the government protect you from big scary viruses and people who may or may not be sick.” And yes good point about its (mis)use relative to the shots.

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Sdunn's avatar

I think we need to put this message on all the empty billboards everywhere!

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