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Based Florida Man's avatar

Q: Why are vitamin C IVs banned in hospitals when vitamin C IVs are nontoxic and cure just about everything?

A: Because vitamin C IVs are nontoxic and cure just about everything.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Other answers:

Most Docs have absolutely NO nutritional, therapeutic, and/or alternative medicine training.

And vitamin C is super cheap and they are pawns of big Pharma.

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Cyn's avatar

They are taught acute medical response, not health and wellnes sustainability. They might be able to stabilize your heart after an attack, but they really don’t approach “good health” from the start which most likely would have prevented it in the first place. Follow the money! They do! And this basically puts the responsibility back on each of us. You’d have to be living under a rock these days not to be able to know how to take care of your own health. People prefer the quick fix pill, after the problem manifests; it’s way easier, even if not sustainable.

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Once you start down the road of trying to actually be healthy, you quite quickly realize how much you have been lied to and how much our 'regulatory' agencies are captured. It is maddening just how corrupted our food and pharmaceutical chains are.... ahem FDA, completely in bed with each other and all for their profit, our detriment.

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John Bugni's avatar

Cyn, good point. Jonathan Otto has a New Hope series where he interviews the foremost experts on how to get your body healthy including how to heal it from vaccine/bioweapon injury, Covid injury, Long Covid, and shedding exposure. First 5 episodes free to view today. REALLY interesting and informative stuff.

Jonathanotto.com/new hope

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Marsha McGrath's avatar

Still can’t access this...too bad.

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ENCmd's avatar

So far flccc.net free protocols with free explanations by Paul Marik and Pierre Kory and Dr Been which are fun and informative. May they continue!

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ENCmd's avatar

All needs to be free or we create a different elite.

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Paula's avatar

Yes, we got a real wake-up call during the Covid years! My approach to ensuring general health for myself and my husband is so different to the way we used to live: lots of vitamins and minerals and other targeted natural products, a sound diet like the one grandma used to provide 100 years or so ago - and no visits to the GP

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Tracy's avatar

I've been following a low carb diet for many years before Covid. Hardly any processed foods and cook everything myself. No drinking, smoking, drugs, prescription or otherwise. Drives my doctor crazy when I turn down anything she suggests. Haven't had any kind of vaccine since a pneumonia shot before a surgery I had years ago. I haven't trusted the medical establishment in years. If I hadn't needed joint replacement surgeries I would have had nothing to do with any doctor. People need to learn that good unprocessed food is all the medicine we need. Move a little, laugh a lot. We don't need them.

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Turfseer's avatar

Hubris infects the medical profession. Watch MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY DISEASE. https://turfseer.substack.com/p/my-way-or-the-highway-disease

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Tracy's avatar

Will do. 😊

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RayS's avatar

Drs are driven by insurance companies and pharma. We saw the incentive letter to Drs on vax quotas. You’re forced to buy insurance so they can pay incentives to give patients a taxpayer purchased jab.

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Garden Lover's avatar

This is true. My first boyfriend’s brother was an OBGYN. This was back in the 80s. He had high blood pressure and was taking medication for it. He also had a gut. When I asked him why he didn’t just change his diet and exercise, he said that this was easier. He also said that most of his patients didn’t want nutritional advice. They wanted him to just give him pills.

I’ve seen this many times with people. They don’t want to do the work required to be healthy. It doesn’t help that our food supply is compromised as is our air, water, and environment. That doesn’t excuse it, though.

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Cyn's avatar

People are lazy and settle way too often in all things pertaining to their lives. Works right into the plan for the power brokers.

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Garden Lover's avatar

It’s why we are where we are.

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Turfseer's avatar

DR. GASLIGHT. A doctor causes his patient to question her own sanity. Listen to Turfseer’s new song. https://turfseer.substack.com/p/dr-gaslight

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Kelly's avatar

I went to the doc once, not sure what for, but he tried to convince me that I had acid reflux.

Him: you have acid reflux. I'll write you an Rx for it.

Me: acid reflux? Isnt that where you have that burning in your throat?

Him: yes

Me: i dont have that

Him: well, just try this Rx anyway and see if it helps. You may not have it everytime you eat

Me: helps with the reflux?

Him: yes

Me: i dont understand. Are you saying I have acid reflux, but the symptoms are so mild that i dont KNOW that I have acid reflux?

He FINALLY realized what he was doing abd turned to look at me with surprise.

Him: good point!

I didnt get an Rx for acid reflux.

And he lost out on getting a kickback (although I was young and naive to that at the time).

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Karen's avatar

One of my doctors prescribed prilosec for my chronic cough. She said reflux could make you cough. All the prilosec did was cause joint pain and stiffness. It will also weaken your bones. I since realized I have low stomach acid and the prilosec just makes that worse. I ditched the prilosec and use lemon in my water. A new doctor said I could have "silent gird", no symptoms of reflux, just wants me to take prilosec. They must own stock in the company.

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Cyn's avatar

My VIP doc-I’ve since dropped that money-grab scam-noticed my age, apparently for the first time, and immediately order a statin for me. When I questioned it, he said everyone over 50 should be on one, to which I said why, I don’t have heart or stroke indicators or cholesterol issues. For good measure, he said. I immediately did my own research and based on my good health and the stated side effects, decided not to fill the Rx. When I asked him to read my research on my latent, undiagnosed, until just recently, Lyme and two additional co-infections test results and give me his thoughts on potential treatment, he was dismissive. Of a test performed at the request of another M.D! Not what he would have called some quack naturalist or holistic medicine man; a genuine colleague. He had no clue or interest in treating me as a patient and addressing a potential root cause of health issues I WAS dealing with; just wanted to follow the Pharma-narrative and make sure I was on track with the current fad-meds and vaxes. All of which added to his profits. I refused all. Wasn’t his most liked patient after that; I could tell at the next visit. I subsequently dropped him as a doc. What a tool!

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Kelly's avatar

I have come to, overall, hate the medical profession. Doctors/nurses no longer get automatic respect from me. I view them the same as I view myself: a regular joe schmo just trying to survive.

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Cyn's avatar

So true! For far too long physicians have been revered as sitting next to God. The sheer arrogance, and now the evidenced malice, of some in the profession has finally been laid bare for all to see with the revelations of these past few years. They are human and fall into the power/greed-trap like any other humans. We must remember the true meaning of “practicing medicine”, since many aren’t emotionally intelligent enough to understand the true essence of which they are charged in their Hippocratic oath to do. They should be held to a higher responsibility and a humility because of the trust placed in them in their positions and decisions that lead to life and death consequences.

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

I’m guessing, though, that you’re not trying to coerce others into harming themselves for your personal benefit.

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ENCmd's avatar

IFM.org purportedly does but is scared of Big Pharma so doesn’t apply that to COVID out of fear. Undoes their credibility.

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Julia C's avatar

A really good example of this I always use is...I have Crohn’s and as such see a Gastroenterologist. There are multiple studies showing that food additives such as carboxymethylcellulose, cellulose gum, carrageenan, polysorbate 80, likely play a role in intestinal inflammation and disturbances in your gut microbiome. In animal studies they’ve consistently seen harmful effects from these additives yet some remain listed as GRAS, generally recognized as safe, by our FDA. It’s well know that some things are just known to be more triggering to people with IBD, such as these additives, sugar alcohols, fructose, etc. I’ve always believed that this type of information should be something generalized that every GI should be shouting from the rooftops to all their patients. If you know there’s a group of food products that could literally worsen their Crohn’s or colitis you’d think that would be the first thing they’d tell their patients after diagnosis but it’s crickets of course. They will send you a nutritionist who will also have no clue and of course start you on treatments. We are on our own to figure this stuff out. It’s such a simple fix in most places too. Some shredded cheese has cellulose gum, some brands don’t. I buy the brand that doesn’t. But there’s so many IBD patients that have no clue.

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Freebird's avatar

It’s always about following the $$. Anything that’s inexpensive AND effective must be banned.

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Dee's meow's avatar

Like ivermectin, banned because it was too effective in lieu of a non-vx transhumanist potion that is only effective to maim and kill. So good at culling the population its going in [or is in] our food supply.

What joy. So much to take in today.

Grusome newsom wants to handle the USA the way he is destroying Calif! Imagine the state or non-existance of America if he were prez. I shudder to think.

Im done or i'll go on and on and...

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Dominic Lloyd's avatar

Why are people still going on about Ivermectin when the evidence clearly demonstrates that doing nothing (i.e. letting your body heal itself) is far more effective than ivermectin, which is just another, though less harmful, big pharma drug.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

If your body can handle COVID fairly well, it's best to let your body do the job. But we have seen that quite a few people needed some help.

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Dee's meow's avatar

In the fall of 2020, when Dr. Marik first identified the data signal from numerous studies showing the efficacy of ivermectin in every phase of COVID illness, the FDA— a key cog in the OCNG wheel — called it “horse paste” because they were frightened out of their wits that this organic, cheap, globally available, repurposed drug would derail the roll-out of the vaccine$. Turns out, in the countries where ivermectin was blessed by public health authorities, millions upon millions of lives were saved. Millions of others died—again, unnecessarily.

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Dominic Lloyd's avatar

You know there's no such thing as Covid don't you? Surely? by now? It was the bloody flu, and not even a particularly bad one; once you subtract co-morbidities and the iatrogenocide of ventilators and lockdowns et al, there's literally no death toll to support any notion of a pandemic.

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Dee's meow's avatar

If ppl see a cure instead of vxing, if that is their mind set, it gives them a option.

Js, imho.

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Dominic Lloyd's avatar

That makes no sense, it's just being an apologist for nonsense. Doing nothing is a better cure; we spent hundreds of thousands of years without pharmacology, if we were unable to cure ourselves of the flu orother illness like it we would have died out long ago.

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Amen! My grandmother, a poor farmer who lived to be 99, was always telling me to 'get a poultice' for any variety of ailments. She knew that nature and food (not today's FDA food) provided what we need to be healthy and well.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

The human race has done quite well as a whole, however plenty of people have died of the flu, and some of them were not even aged.

Read up on the bubonic plague. In addition to the horrors that some survived to tell about, there were entire towns that were depopulated - as told only by archaeological evidence. In addition, there is evidence that bubonic plague basically wiped out all of the inhabitants of a large swath of Europe about 5000 years ago. It's not airtight evidence, but there are a lot of skeletons with plague bacteria in their teeth, and populations were replaced about that time.

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Nona's avatar

Like gas fueled cars ….

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Nancy Tait's avatar

Allopathy is a huge scam.

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Cyn's avatar

So true, but it’s hugely profitable for the Agri-Medi-Pharma-Complex. It’s a necessary brainwashing of the sheep, as well, “Look how “we” (the multi-Complex controllers) take such good care of you! And it’s effortless for you! You don’t need to think for yourselves!” And with the promise of “free life management” the sheep comply, until they march obediently to the trains.

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LS Woodruff's avatar

I also like the term 'racket!'

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AngelaK's avatar

Yes!

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Annie's avatar

Most msm doctors are useless. I will use my own diagnosis for my and my family. At any rate I couldn't do any worse.

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Peter GL's avatar

Besides, when I’m at the dr, all she does is look at her screen for diagnosis

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Annie's avatar

When I turned 60 I was told to have a bone density screening even though there's no evidence of osteoporosis or that it evens runs in my family. Plus I take supplements and eat yogurt and cheese plus other calcium rich foods. It was on their chart, set up by big pharma, to prescribe. Screw that.

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VanLife Views's avatar

Hi Florida Man

Another site I have subscribed too for years and has been helpful on the Vit C front is “Orthomolecular Medicine News Service”

Put out by Andrew Saul Ph.D

Great board of other editors as well.

I found this article fascinating on the topical use of Vit C

It’s a recent article.

https://orthomolecular.activehosted.com/index.php?action=social&chash=20f07591c6fcb220ffe637cda29bb3f6.276&s=6ca0c8c0d007359adcc7229269b3bed9

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Dick's avatar

…and in med school they’re taught to see all alternative medicine as quackery; all supplement manufacturers as greedy lying scammers, all herbal remedies are archaic, most vitamins as a waste of money, and people are stupid for taking charge of their own health (which we have been driven to by the arrogant, greedy, and barbaric excuse for decent medical practices)

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Dick's avatar

PS— be wise & discerning in research ;))

…There is a lot if scammery & quackery out there.

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Chelie's avatar

A Dr told me once they only had about a 30 minute lecture on nutrition in medical school. Nutrition class was a prerequisite for nursing school back when ...

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Neil Kellen's avatar

While I wouldn't vote for RFK Jr for POTUS, I think he may make a good Secy HHS. His balanced take on health care would be violently opposed by pharma, which means it is right on target. He could begin a transition from pharma exclusive health care to a mix of natural remedies, supplements (C, D, etc...), long proven medical practices, and modern medicine.

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Credenda's avatar

I just saw a clip of him (looks to be at least 10 years old) calling for the jailing of climate deniers, three hots and a cot is all they deserve, said he. Now I think he’s just another globalist who got it right about COVID. Also, he endorsed Hillary Clinton THREE times! I had hopes for him but not now.

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FedUpInOR's avatar

Exactly. If I had to boil it down to one single issue, it’s abortion. And RFK jr is dead wrong on that one also.

Anyone who says it’s okay to murder an infant is starting from a place I have no desire to go.

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Verve's avatar

Yes and it’s sad that as a professed Catholic he rejects the moral certitude of the pro life tenet “womb to the tomb”.

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Dick's avatar

Oh man! 😨I didnt know he took that pos. on abortion. Makes no sense given his strong leadership in protecting babies & children wrt vaccines.

Devastated.

(…& also in OR, where compassion & murder are our bread & butter. )

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Dick's avatar

...”compassion” needs quotes :/

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Kelly's avatar

I would never vote for a dem, period. However, I am a totally different person than I was 10 years ago.

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Verve's avatar

Good point. Look at Naomi Wolf and her transformation- formerly a conservative hating atheist and now she’s recording the BIBLE on her Substack and speaking at a Hillsdale College commencement! 😀💯🙏🏻

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Yes, she's awesome, now. I hope she's getting royalties for Geneva Bible sales. It's a Good Book.

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CMCM's avatar

It seems you can rarely take the Democrat out of a Democrat. Democrats for life. It's an identity. It's a religion. It's unchangeable, or so it seems.

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Penny North's avatar

He has a lot going for him, but his Earth Day Substack today is promoting the environment as his core focus as President.

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Truthseeker's avatar

Tucker Carlson did a segment on that this week… and you can see ole Sleepy Joe is talking even MORE crazy climate stuff… ramping up… trying to combat the votes he’ll lose to Kennedy on climate position

It’s a head to head dem battle on climate agenda atm 🤦🏼‍♀️ like that’s our biggest problem today

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Neil Kellen's avatar

Purity and politics are incompatible.

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JohnS's avatar

Well said FL Man. This is an early contender for Comment of the Year.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Florida Man is on a roll! A comment a few weeks ago had readers calling for a T shirt to be made with the comment! This comment could also be printed on a T! 👏🏻

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

my vote too

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FourWinds's avatar

And because big pharma can't patent a vitamin. That's the same reason they demonize herbs, vitamins, real healthy eating (not the nonsense they suggest like canola oil) and other supplements: because no one can make huge amounts of money and because they don't have dominance over those who heal themselves.

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RunningLogic's avatar

They have a real savoir complex. You can clearly see it in OBs who always seem to want to “do something” (like give meds or perform a procedure) for labor and birth, instead of just monitoring and helping things along as naturally as possible.

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Duchess's avatar

Because as Dr. Paul Marik proved, IV Vit C combined with IV antibiotics CURE sepsis.

Which means that it is not PROTOCOL.

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MaryAnn's avatar

“Cure” is a four letter profanity in the world of pHarma and our medical system.

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Not found in the 'standard of care' manual.

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Kelly's avatar

I had two dogs that were getting up there in age and were in pain. I started them both on Ester-C, and it turned them into puppies again! It was amazing to see! I asked the vet about it and they were absolutely clueless and wanted me to get them on some Rx with tons of side effects. That's when I began to question things.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

What dosage did you use for what size dog?

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Kelly's avatar

I honestly dont know. I think I gave each dog one pill/capsule, but I dont know how much that came out to.

Also, the older one had renal failure at the end, so the Ester c *could* have contributed to that..but she was a 70lb dog and 17 years old, and it gave her at least 6 more years of quality living. It was worth the trade-off, imo.

As a side note, I heard about it from a vet tech. She didnt tell many about it - not even her own bosses. So, it may take some research to find out.

OR, if you can find a holistic vet, maybe they can give some guidance. Good luck!

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CraigN's avatar

See Linus Pauling's research from 50 years ago.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

EXACTLY - keeping people just "well" enough to keep coming back for the poison "treatments" offered by corporate medicine is a multi BILLION dollar business. It's NOT about "science", "good health" or anything "transparent". IT'S ABOUT MAKING MONEY OFF OUR MISERY!!!

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Red Canyon Gal's avatar

Happily, alternative practitioners offer these services.

When I had covid the first time, my naturopath recommended iv rehydration and treatment with such as V-C and I don't remember what else was in it-- but it was too far for me to go in my weakened state. I live remote.

Some nurses burned out from covid started a company going around and doing iv's, so I went to the closest small town and met her there. She hung the bag on a convenient curtain rod and we visited for the duration of the iv- which was cold! as she did not have a heater it being a very new business. Anytime I need such a thing, I will do it again. You get what you pay for.

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AnnB's avatar

Thank God for these warriors!

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Alice in Wonderland's avatar

Totally heartbreaking what his hospital did to hero/warrior supreme Paul Marik over this. Monstrous.

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TRM's avatar

And it's been known since the early 1950's when Dr Klenner was curing measles, polio and lots of other untreatable ailments with intravenous vitamin C treatments. Of course when the FDA tested it they used oral vitamin C which can't raise blood levels high enough.

http://orthomolecular.org/

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randall stoehr's avatar

This message brought to you in large part, by the Florida Citrus Growers and the Advocation Council on VITAMIN C. A day without Vitamin C....is like a day without SUNSHINE!

Psst.....Don't forget about the Vitamin D benefit! ( Roger that Mission Control! )

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Sidebar on Florida orange juice and truth in labeling. Citrus farmers in the Rio Grande Valley tell me that the industry combines 10% Florida juice with 90% Texas juice and legally calls it "Florida orange juice." I guess they could call it "pure Florida orange juice" and claim "pure" modifies only "juice." Taking nothing away from the Sunshine State! We love all y'all and visit often. The RGV claim could just be a case of Texas sour grapes.

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Gaye's avatar

There was a protocol that included that for sepsis. HAT protocol

https://covid19.onedaymd.com/2021/11/math-protocol-for-covid-19-and-dr-paul.html?m=1

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Christy's avatar

Lol. Don’t get me started on vitamins and health!!!! There are soooooooo many great herbs and such to help almost any ailment besides maybe a broken bone. Even calcium will help with that.

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Credenda's avatar

Keep hitting ‘‘em out of the park, BFM! I love it.

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Donna Sudbrook's avatar

keeping this on hand in case we need IV vitamin C and can't get someone to provide it ......... https://www.ivtogo.com/ ............ seems reasonable ........... and the location of the Linus Pauling Institute at Oregon State University and this website's location ......... decided to take a chance on it.

and this recommended by Dr. Thomas Levy ........... https://www.livonlabs.com/products/vitamin-c/

and this sold/reviewed by a local organic grocery store chain ............ https://www.vidalifescience.com/collections/vitamin-c

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