"We need fair, due-process-providing involuntary commitment processes". Here's the problem I've always had with involuntary commitment: it's into a medical/psychiatric system that is way past broken. It pretty much guarantees the person will be drugged into submission. I'm willing to bet most would have no say-so in their own treatment b…
"We need fair, due-process-providing involuntary commitment processes". Here's the problem I've always had with involuntary commitment: it's into a medical/psychiatric system that is way past broken. It pretty much guarantees the person will be drugged into submission. I'm willing to bet most would have no say-so in their own treatment because they are "crazy", which means they become a medical pincushion. No way those people can reject jabs of any kind. I think it's way to easy for so-called mentally ill people to be taken advantage of because if they fight back, say they are not crazy, say they don't want drugs, don't want jabs, etc., they will be ignored because they are "crazy". (I am not referring to them that way, I'm using the word that is most often assigned to them by society.) I have never felt mental wards have any desire to actually heal people. With chemical-laden crap for food and heavy doses of drugs, no one is going to heal unless they can break out.
Maybe I should not be saying this publicly, but what the heck: I had a nervous breakdown in late 2020 due to the loss of family because of the scamdemic, the scamdemic itself, and my dad agreeing to be jabbed. I knew it would kill him. I was wrong (so far), thank God. He is not dead, but has a number of problems that I believe are jab related and he keeps declining.
I thought I knew what a nervous breakdown was until I had one. It was terrifying. I was completely out of control. I destroyed the 50s kitchen I'd worked so hard to create, barricaded everything from my family (furniture, old gifts, photos) into a back bedroom, covered all the windows with black paint (water based, but it was still a nightmare to get off) and newspaper and tape, and would not speak to him for weeks. I could not sleep, eat, or function and I cut my hair off. I was absolutely out of control of myself. I did not, however, harm anyone else nor did I want to. It never even crossed my mind.
If anyone in a place of authority had seen what I did to my home and to myself, no doubt they would have locked me up, drugged me into oblivion, and I'd likely still be there if I was not dead from being jabbed. As it was, after some time, I calmed down and came to my senses. It took months to repair the damage to my home. But for me, the whole thing was a blessing. I came out of it calmer than I had ever been in my life. I was clear-headed. I knew then and there that I was not crazy, that everything I felt about the scamdemic being orchestrated was correct, that the jabs were deadly, and that no way was this situation going away any time soon. It didn't matter so much that I turned out to be right, but rather that I knew what my gut told me and I was going to stand by it, right or wrong. In short, I trusted myself for the first time in my life and I was at absolute peace with myself. No drugs, no alcohol, no doctors, and absolutely no outside help. I didn't do anything special to heal. I came out of that state when my mind was ready.
So no on involuntary commitments. I never would have stood a chance. If nothing else, I believe I would have died from psychogenic death because death would have been preferable to being a prisoner.
But, I certainly agree we don't need more red flag laws.
Forgot to mention probably the most important thing - I came out of that determined that I would NEVER allow anything or anyone to determine how I felt again. I was and am going to live my own life my own way, regardless of any scamdemic or any family member's decisions.
The worst thing that ever could have happened to me actually happened - which for me, was the loss of my family. I never thought it was possible, but it was. I used to think that would destroy me. It didn't. And now I've finally learned to rely on myself and only myself for emotional support. Only took over a half century. Better late than never. :)
There are schools of psychology and old school psychologists that believe these kinds of crises can be transformative for the soul. I think of Jung, James Hillman, Marie Louise von Franz etc. Also many indigenous cultures have deep cultural ways of bringing people through crises like this. I think of Leslie Marmon Silko's book, Ceremony, in which (if I remember correctly) a PTSD'ed Vietnam vet is healed through a community ritual. The answer is not always medication, and it seems profoundly normal to go a bit mad from loss. One thing that is allowing the barbarians to try to take over is the terrible unhealed loss people are feeling and experiencing, which is being quite purposefully repressed. We all carry the load of what is unnamed and ungrieved and unresolved in the world at large. Coming through always confers strength. Good for you!
Thank you for sharing! I needed to hear that, because CA is instituting “mental health courts” where frankly psychotic folks can be held (and medicated) against their will. I was on the fence about that, because seeing them suffering on the street and abused by the lowlife’s doesn’t seem humane either.
Thank you for sharing. In a similar life changing event, I sold my house and gave away most of my things. The scamdemic made me re-evaluate my life and realize I wasn’t living but coasting through life. A friend offered me a place to live, on a beautiful farm near Shenandoah National Park so I could decide what I wanted to do. It was isolated and very calming. My biggest step was retiring from a job I loved because I didn’t believe in the military command I was working for or for the Navy leadership either. I believe that God would take care of me... and he has. On a side note, I cut all my hair off too... it was the one crazy thing I did to stop coloring my hair. I love how it looks now. Thank you again for sharing because I think there are more of us who had had to shed the chains that were holding us tight to what many considered normal but we knew better.
On another note, the other problem with involuntary commitment is all you need is one corrupt individual to declare a person is unfit to get them locked up. Kinda a good way to get people a person does not like or won't follow the narrative locked up.
I agree, which is why I support guardianship by a family member instead. The last people we should trust with our loved ones are the state/medical establishment/Pharma operatives who see them as an endless source of revenue to be exploited.
Most states will only do a 72 hour “involuntary commitment” for evaluation purposes, it’s written into their state laws. This is one of the reasons Red Flag Laws aren’t necessary, it can be determined if someone is a danger to themself or others. RFL’s can be initiated by a disgruntled ex and the accused gets no due process and has their property confiscated.
I can relate since I went through years of my own personal hell. Once I came out of it, I had become a better and stronger person. They would have said I was crazy during my run. What angered me the most was the VA was partly responsible for what happened to me. The VA made me change clothes, asked if I had anything sharp, and placed me in a padded room when I went to the ER just to get help. I was there for 1.5 hours speaking with a doctor and they let me go home. I had no intentions of harming myself or anyone else. I was struggling with panic and anxiety again. It's something I've dealt with since I returned from the Gulf War. They are the ones who even classified me as having Gulf War Syndrome. It was surreal and now I avoid them. I will never again be placed in a situation like this again. I have no issues in letting them know since everything is documented and I have all of those records. I lost a lot of trust in the medical system in 2015. Any trust I had left was completely lost during Covid. They're the ones who are liars and insane. I will even say they are mass murderers after everything I've witnessed over the past 3 years. I've spent a little over 2 decades in and out of the medical system. I'm really surprised I'm not dead. If you want to live a long healthy life, stay active, eat right, and most importantly stay away from doctors and hospital if you can help it.
I don't agree with red flag laws. Your being punished for suspicion. Suspicion isn't a crime. This is just a maneuver to take away one's rights and guns. Notice how they always frame these shooters. They were mentally ill and on a watch list.
I don't agree with red flag laws either. It is good to know which of your elected officials are for them and against them. I haven't dug for any comprehensive voting information but from what reading and listening to news reports, Florida congressmen Matt Gaetz and Mike Waltz have voted for red flag laws, and congressman Byron Donalds voted against them. It doesn't make Gaetz and Waltz bad people, just Donalds a person with more good sense.
I've read so many comments all over the Internet where people are now saying they can pass whatever they want, it isn't going to happen. They have seen and know too much now over the past few years. They couldn't even get people to turn in their high-capacity magazine in NJ or the bump stocks in CO. I good law-abiding citizens will not use one unless they have to use it. A criminal will always get one and use it for evil. There is no way I would turn mine in after what I've witnessed over the past 3 years. I might as well go ahead and shoot myself.
Yes, it is much better to leave psychotics completely untreated so they ruin not only their own lives, but those of their spouses, children, and parents. I think what needs to happen is guardianship be granted to spouse or other adult family member who can then get their loved one the care they need without them being swallowed up by the medical complex. As a mother of a psychotic daughter, the frustration and heartache caused by watching my loving daughter transformed into an abusive and hateful person is distressful beyond words. I know she is not choosing her illness. Her ability to reason has been destroyed. It is insane and cruel to believe she has any choice in the matter.
You are absolutely right, Four Winds. One of my siblings has been in an out of psychiatric institutions since his early 20s (for 30-some years) and this last time they've managed to keep him for four years for no good reason.
What people don't know is that people like him are on government disability payments and most of their monthly check goes to the psych institution for 'rent' and to a non-profit to manage their 'case', which for him is Catholic Charities. When he needs some clothes they take him to a charity shop for used clothes (!), and there's no money for a phone card so he can keep calling his family. We his family are convinced that he is a cash cow to keep the psych center and Catholic Charities in business, and to keep the kickbacks rolling for a drug injection that he has protested against many times because it makes him obese and drugged-out. He's willing to take other psych drugs that have worked better for him, but his assigned psychiatrist won't listen to him, clearly because he's getting paid to prescribe this drug to all of his patients (per my brother who's talked to other patients).
My brother has never been violent, but he has seen quite a bit of violence by the staff against the patients -- which shows you how corrupt these institutions are. I've now gotten power of attorney and health care proxy for him so I can battle on his behalf, something I couldn't do before because I was overseas. Apparently he's told them this, because all of a sudden they're moving very quickly to release him, but that will not be the end of it because I want a detailed accounting of what they've done and am willing to be a thorn in their side.
Likewise, a friend's son had a bad breakup in college, got depressed, and the university health service convinced his parents to put him on a psych drug for life. That kid can no longer do anything but low-level work like driving an uber and living at home. He's furious with his parents for doing this to him and I think he's absolutely right to be. He had a very bright future ahead of him and it's been ripped away. All because he had a bad break-up.
The other thing people don't know is that there is no research proving most psychiatric conditions or the efficacy of psychiatric drugs. They are the vax equivalent on the mental health side, given that there isn't convincing legitimate research for vaxxes either. (See the book Turtles All the Way Down.)
If you go to third world countries without a psych establishment, they give people space and emotional support when they struggle with life, not diagnose them as mentally ill and make them zombies with drugs. Let's not forget that western societies used to chain people up in attics and treat them horribly if they 'lost their mind'.
The question should be, why wouldn't people have a reaction when they're living in an 'insane society'? Maybe the question ought to be why more people aren't having a reaction?!!!
You need to read the book Brain Energy by Dr. Christopher Palmer. He shows the science proving all mental illness is caused by mitochondrial dysfunction in the brain, in addition to trauma of some sort , and that it can be effectively treated with a ketogenic diet, therapy, and limited meds, just as epilepsy is. I can guarantee that the facilities your brother has been trapped in are feeding the exact opposite of this, a diet high in processed carbohydrates, which exacerbates the illness. Most psyche meds also damage metabolism, causing obesity and diabetes. I remember Bill Clinton’s campaign slogan “It’s the economy stupid!” When it comes to chronic disease, physical and mental, it’s the mitochondria, stupid! The poor outcomes of conventional psychiatry is due to the entire profession ignoring the dietary causes.
Thank you so much for that book suggestion, which I've just ordered.
If I can get him away from the clutches of that system, I hope to do so, as he is a really big-hearted, well-intentioned, creative and funny guy whose potential and life force have been squandered and suppressed by his involuntary incarceration in that system.
Yes, he is indeed addicted to carbs and sugars, which he gets plenty of at his facility. He and the other patients are all smokers too, which he knows is unhealthy, but I think the patients pursue feel-good chemicals because their lives are so controlled and lacking in other pleasures. He dreams of a girlfriend too, because of course sex is verboten and repressed by the drugs.
I look forward to reading that book. Thanks so much, Debbie!
Best wishes for your brother getting real healing. There is a charity called Metabolic Mind that may be helpful, founded by parents of a son with bipolar disorder. The keto diet has given him his life back. They have videos on YouTube that are excellent. It is exciting to see more doctors coming onboard with metabolic therapy for mental illness.
I agree Debbie that a lot of the problem are being caused by our foods. These grocery stores are toxic. Not only food but hygiene, cosmetics, and cleaning supplies. We have been growing our own food. We supplement any food by purchasing it from our neighbors who are farmers and ranchers. All the meats we buy are from ranchers who let their livestock live off the land. Same for all our dairy. If it's not organic and non-GMO, we don't get it. They don't vaccinate or feed them GMOs. We then swapped out all the hygiene products with ones that only have 4 or 5 ingredients and many are made by our neighbors. My wife makes some of her own. And cleaning products are the same. I can read every ingredient and know what every one of them are. Since we made these changes, we rarely get sick. If we do, it's just a sniffle here and there. Our overall wellbeing has improved greatly. I used to get sick 3 to 4 times a year and it would linger for 3 to 6 weeks. I was dumb for going to see a doctor who would provide more toxins. We got back to the basics when one of us becomes sick. It didn't happen overnight. It took a while to research and learn.
It is hard to believe what we have been eating for decades. People have no idea what has happened to our food supply. The sad thing is that it is just here in the US. I went to Mexico last spring and Italy last month and the food is different.
Yes, it is hard to believe! They even put up a fight when people were asking for proper labeling. That was telling. There are so many toxins in the grocery store foods. If people would take the time to read and look up the ingredients, maybe they would change. They are deceptive. It makes sense why we're a sick nation and overweight. I can't believe I weighed 250lbs at 5' 10'. After changing the diet, my weight now stays between 155-160lbs. I felt so much better. I stopped snoring which was nice since I would get pushed and poked. LOL I lived in Spangdahlem, Germany for almost 4 years and traveled all over Europe and their food was much different and good. They don't have GMO crops in Europe or Russia. Why does it continue here. It's safer to grow your own and buy from people you trust. Just the taste of homegrown veggies and fruits is so much better. I'm happy people are waking up to this. I also do the microgreens and sprouts. I'm in the middle of making up 2 trays to put under the grow lights. I compared 2 bottles of Heinz Ketchup from Canada and US. They were identical except for one thing. Canada uses sugarcane and the US had high fructose corn syrup which I personally believe causes liver problems.
Good for you! I agree that Americans are overweight and sick due to the food we eat. Warren Buffett and Bill Gates are responsible for high fructose corn syrup being used in our food instead of sugar.
Like they always say: follow the money. It is disgusting how many wealthy people have made themselves wealthier at the expense of other people's well-being.
I cut out a lot of sugar. Every so often I'll crave a piece of chocolate and cave. I know sodas are bad but I will have one every once in a while. I'll get the coke in the Mexican bottles since it's sugarcane. I learned they also spray the sugarcane heavily with glyphosate not long before harvesting it. I will only get the Wholesome organic raw sugar. And I know flour is sprayed heavily and it's genetically different. I do believe there is a link here for some having issues with gluten. I'll buy the Jovial 100% Organic Einkorn organic flour. I just bought a 10lb bag and it was $42 dollars. I would rather pay up front for better food instead of a doctor. I wish I could grow everything but it's impossible. Thankfully, I can get other items from my neighbors who farmers and ranchers. Like all the beef and chicken are organically raised. No vaccines or GMO feed. They live off the pasture. Same for dairy. It is costly though. Milk is $12 a gallon and I can usually get eggs between $5 and $6 dollars.
It's clear as day, these evil parasites want us sick and dead. I can see right through this whole death jab and what's it's being used for. You're absolutely right. They want to make the money off other people's well-being. They also want to cull the majority of the population. Many of these psychopaths are connected and related. I'm happy to see so many fighting back. I think we're just getting warmed up. As more truth comes out, there will be no place for them to hide. They're already losing the information warfare that's taking place. There will be no military big enough to stop what's coming.
I’ve been reading these comments on institutionalization and my head is spinning. I lived adjacent to a “mental hospital” in Upstate New York in my early years. There was a plot of land - 15 or 20 acres - used for farming vegetables. During the growing season, I would watch the patients come out with the rakes and hoes and work the land. They weren’t a harm to themselves or others. One patient would yell up into the clouds “kill that monkey” for reasons known only to himself (???). We kind of chuckled but never worried about him. I’ve mentioned this before in these comments. It went on for years; then suddenly it was gone, the land plowed over and the hospital closed down. What happened to our “kill that monkey” fellow? If incompetent, politically-motivated and money-grubbing bureaucrats, etc. was the source of the horror show, can we do better the next time?
There was a big push in the 1980's to close all mental institutions because they were deemed to be cruel and were expensive to run. I think they turned many out into the streets. The beginning of homelessness.
If you need any help with this type of thing, Citizen's Commission on Human Rights fights the good fight against the abuses of psychiatry: https://www.cchrint.org/
Thank you for sharing your story. We are all a few brain chemicals away from losing control in our lives. It’s understandable that you felt devastated by the changes in society, and by the realization that there was something very dark and evil going on. I wish you the best in your continued healing. Hope you are eating healthy, exercising, and getting lots of sunlight. You are right about those institutions. I had a friend years ago who was bipolar and would have a manic episode, and there was a hospital called Grasslands in Westchester county, and they drugged my friend so badly to keep her there longer. They needed a certain amount of bodies in the place to get money from the state. At one point she was being chased around by another patient, who was trying to molest her. And when she complained and was very upset about it, they said. “ you’re still manic”. It was some kind of hell. Bless you and may you have better times ahead.
Turns out it wasn’t brain chemicals, which explains the abysmal success rate for conventional psychiatry. They refused to look at diet for all these years. It is maddeningly tragic the unnecessary suffering so many have endured, when correcting the diet to heal the mitochondria is a cheap solution with no harmful side effects. I am opposed to long term hospitalization, and thankfully, so are all decent psychiatrists. Today, hospital stays are only a few weeks to get the patient stabilized. Then they are released. And no one should ever be hospitalized without a family member or close friend acting as their advocate.
I believe that diet controls/alters brain chemicals. And yes, strategies like intermittent fasting , near infrared , the low-dose naltrexone, immune modulating, herbs, etc.. are great and gentle ways to help the body get back in balance. And the spirit must be considered as well.
Diet has been scientifically proven to determine mitochondrial health. All the alternative therapies combined cannot overcome an improper diet. If the mitochondria are healthy, the rest of the body will be also.
"We need fair, due-process-providing involuntary commitment processes". Here's the problem I've always had with involuntary commitment: it's into a medical/psychiatric system that is way past broken. It pretty much guarantees the person will be drugged into submission. I'm willing to bet most would have no say-so in their own treatment because they are "crazy", which means they become a medical pincushion. No way those people can reject jabs of any kind. I think it's way to easy for so-called mentally ill people to be taken advantage of because if they fight back, say they are not crazy, say they don't want drugs, don't want jabs, etc., they will be ignored because they are "crazy". (I am not referring to them that way, I'm using the word that is most often assigned to them by society.) I have never felt mental wards have any desire to actually heal people. With chemical-laden crap for food and heavy doses of drugs, no one is going to heal unless they can break out.
Maybe I should not be saying this publicly, but what the heck: I had a nervous breakdown in late 2020 due to the loss of family because of the scamdemic, the scamdemic itself, and my dad agreeing to be jabbed. I knew it would kill him. I was wrong (so far), thank God. He is not dead, but has a number of problems that I believe are jab related and he keeps declining.
I thought I knew what a nervous breakdown was until I had one. It was terrifying. I was completely out of control. I destroyed the 50s kitchen I'd worked so hard to create, barricaded everything from my family (furniture, old gifts, photos) into a back bedroom, covered all the windows with black paint (water based, but it was still a nightmare to get off) and newspaper and tape, and would not speak to him for weeks. I could not sleep, eat, or function and I cut my hair off. I was absolutely out of control of myself. I did not, however, harm anyone else nor did I want to. It never even crossed my mind.
If anyone in a place of authority had seen what I did to my home and to myself, no doubt they would have locked me up, drugged me into oblivion, and I'd likely still be there if I was not dead from being jabbed. As it was, after some time, I calmed down and came to my senses. It took months to repair the damage to my home. But for me, the whole thing was a blessing. I came out of it calmer than I had ever been in my life. I was clear-headed. I knew then and there that I was not crazy, that everything I felt about the scamdemic being orchestrated was correct, that the jabs were deadly, and that no way was this situation going away any time soon. It didn't matter so much that I turned out to be right, but rather that I knew what my gut told me and I was going to stand by it, right or wrong. In short, I trusted myself for the first time in my life and I was at absolute peace with myself. No drugs, no alcohol, no doctors, and absolutely no outside help. I didn't do anything special to heal. I came out of that state when my mind was ready.
So no on involuntary commitments. I never would have stood a chance. If nothing else, I believe I would have died from psychogenic death because death would have been preferable to being a prisoner.
But, I certainly agree we don't need more red flag laws.
Forgot to mention probably the most important thing - I came out of that determined that I would NEVER allow anything or anyone to determine how I felt again. I was and am going to live my own life my own way, regardless of any scamdemic or any family member's decisions.
The worst thing that ever could have happened to me actually happened - which for me, was the loss of my family. I never thought it was possible, but it was. I used to think that would destroy me. It didn't. And now I've finally learned to rely on myself and only myself for emotional support. Only took over a half century. Better late than never. :)
Thank you so very much for sharing!!!! The past few years have been very hard for most of us💜💜💜💜
Agree. This scamdemic was an eye opener. I was blind but now I see.
There are schools of psychology and old school psychologists that believe these kinds of crises can be transformative for the soul. I think of Jung, James Hillman, Marie Louise von Franz etc. Also many indigenous cultures have deep cultural ways of bringing people through crises like this. I think of Leslie Marmon Silko's book, Ceremony, in which (if I remember correctly) a PTSD'ed Vietnam vet is healed through a community ritual. The answer is not always medication, and it seems profoundly normal to go a bit mad from loss. One thing that is allowing the barbarians to try to take over is the terrible unhealed loss people are feeling and experiencing, which is being quite purposefully repressed. We all carry the load of what is unnamed and ungrieved and unresolved in the world at large. Coming through always confers strength. Good for you!
Thats why scripture speaks of how a friend is closer than a brother. 💕
Thank you for sharing! I needed to hear that, because CA is instituting “mental health courts” where frankly psychotic folks can be held (and medicated) against their will. I was on the fence about that, because seeing them suffering on the street and abused by the lowlife’s doesn’t seem humane either.
Thank you for sharing. In a similar life changing event, I sold my house and gave away most of my things. The scamdemic made me re-evaluate my life and realize I wasn’t living but coasting through life. A friend offered me a place to live, on a beautiful farm near Shenandoah National Park so I could decide what I wanted to do. It was isolated and very calming. My biggest step was retiring from a job I loved because I didn’t believe in the military command I was working for or for the Navy leadership either. I believe that God would take care of me... and he has. On a side note, I cut all my hair off too... it was the one crazy thing I did to stop coloring my hair. I love how it looks now. Thank you again for sharing because I think there are more of us who had had to shed the chains that were holding us tight to what many considered normal but we knew better.
On another note, the other problem with involuntary commitment is all you need is one corrupt individual to declare a person is unfit to get them locked up. Kinda a good way to get people a person does not like or won't follow the narrative locked up.
I agree, which is why I support guardianship by a family member instead. The last people we should trust with our loved ones are the state/medical establishment/Pharma operatives who see them as an endless source of revenue to be exploited.
It takes more than one corrupt individual. Usually multiple psychiatrists have to come to the same diagnosis before a commitment can be ordered.
Never say never
Most states will only do a 72 hour “involuntary commitment” for evaluation purposes, it’s written into their state laws. This is one of the reasons Red Flag Laws aren’t necessary, it can be determined if someone is a danger to themself or others. RFL’s can be initiated by a disgruntled ex and the accused gets no due process and has their property confiscated.
I can relate since I went through years of my own personal hell. Once I came out of it, I had become a better and stronger person. They would have said I was crazy during my run. What angered me the most was the VA was partly responsible for what happened to me. The VA made me change clothes, asked if I had anything sharp, and placed me in a padded room when I went to the ER just to get help. I was there for 1.5 hours speaking with a doctor and they let me go home. I had no intentions of harming myself or anyone else. I was struggling with panic and anxiety again. It's something I've dealt with since I returned from the Gulf War. They are the ones who even classified me as having Gulf War Syndrome. It was surreal and now I avoid them. I will never again be placed in a situation like this again. I have no issues in letting them know since everything is documented and I have all of those records. I lost a lot of trust in the medical system in 2015. Any trust I had left was completely lost during Covid. They're the ones who are liars and insane. I will even say they are mass murderers after everything I've witnessed over the past 3 years. I've spent a little over 2 decades in and out of the medical system. I'm really surprised I'm not dead. If you want to live a long healthy life, stay active, eat right, and most importantly stay away from doctors and hospital if you can help it.
I don't agree with red flag laws. Your being punished for suspicion. Suspicion isn't a crime. This is just a maneuver to take away one's rights and guns. Notice how they always frame these shooters. They were mentally ill and on a watch list.
I don't agree with red flag laws either. It is good to know which of your elected officials are for them and against them. I haven't dug for any comprehensive voting information but from what reading and listening to news reports, Florida congressmen Matt Gaetz and Mike Waltz have voted for red flag laws, and congressman Byron Donalds voted against them. It doesn't make Gaetz and Waltz bad people, just Donalds a person with more good sense.
I've read so many comments all over the Internet where people are now saying they can pass whatever they want, it isn't going to happen. They have seen and know too much now over the past few years. They couldn't even get people to turn in their high-capacity magazine in NJ or the bump stocks in CO. I good law-abiding citizens will not use one unless they have to use it. A criminal will always get one and use it for evil. There is no way I would turn mine in after what I've witnessed over the past 3 years. I might as well go ahead and shoot myself.
Yes, it is much better to leave psychotics completely untreated so they ruin not only their own lives, but those of their spouses, children, and parents. I think what needs to happen is guardianship be granted to spouse or other adult family member who can then get their loved one the care they need without them being swallowed up by the medical complex. As a mother of a psychotic daughter, the frustration and heartache caused by watching my loving daughter transformed into an abusive and hateful person is distressful beyond words. I know she is not choosing her illness. Her ability to reason has been destroyed. It is insane and cruel to believe she has any choice in the matter.
I’m so sorry, Debbie. Seeing our loved ones self-destruct, without being able to offer help, is beyond heartbreak.
You are absolutely right, Four Winds. One of my siblings has been in an out of psychiatric institutions since his early 20s (for 30-some years) and this last time they've managed to keep him for four years for no good reason.
What people don't know is that people like him are on government disability payments and most of their monthly check goes to the psych institution for 'rent' and to a non-profit to manage their 'case', which for him is Catholic Charities. When he needs some clothes they take him to a charity shop for used clothes (!), and there's no money for a phone card so he can keep calling his family. We his family are convinced that he is a cash cow to keep the psych center and Catholic Charities in business, and to keep the kickbacks rolling for a drug injection that he has protested against many times because it makes him obese and drugged-out. He's willing to take other psych drugs that have worked better for him, but his assigned psychiatrist won't listen to him, clearly because he's getting paid to prescribe this drug to all of his patients (per my brother who's talked to other patients).
My brother has never been violent, but he has seen quite a bit of violence by the staff against the patients -- which shows you how corrupt these institutions are. I've now gotten power of attorney and health care proxy for him so I can battle on his behalf, something I couldn't do before because I was overseas. Apparently he's told them this, because all of a sudden they're moving very quickly to release him, but that will not be the end of it because I want a detailed accounting of what they've done and am willing to be a thorn in their side.
Likewise, a friend's son had a bad breakup in college, got depressed, and the university health service convinced his parents to put him on a psych drug for life. That kid can no longer do anything but low-level work like driving an uber and living at home. He's furious with his parents for doing this to him and I think he's absolutely right to be. He had a very bright future ahead of him and it's been ripped away. All because he had a bad break-up.
The other thing people don't know is that there is no research proving most psychiatric conditions or the efficacy of psychiatric drugs. They are the vax equivalent on the mental health side, given that there isn't convincing legitimate research for vaxxes either. (See the book Turtles All the Way Down.)
If you go to third world countries without a psych establishment, they give people space and emotional support when they struggle with life, not diagnose them as mentally ill and make them zombies with drugs. Let's not forget that western societies used to chain people up in attics and treat them horribly if they 'lost their mind'.
The question should be, why wouldn't people have a reaction when they're living in an 'insane society'? Maybe the question ought to be why more people aren't having a reaction?!!!
You need to read the book Brain Energy by Dr. Christopher Palmer. He shows the science proving all mental illness is caused by mitochondrial dysfunction in the brain, in addition to trauma of some sort , and that it can be effectively treated with a ketogenic diet, therapy, and limited meds, just as epilepsy is. I can guarantee that the facilities your brother has been trapped in are feeding the exact opposite of this, a diet high in processed carbohydrates, which exacerbates the illness. Most psyche meds also damage metabolism, causing obesity and diabetes. I remember Bill Clinton’s campaign slogan “It’s the economy stupid!” When it comes to chronic disease, physical and mental, it’s the mitochondria, stupid! The poor outcomes of conventional psychiatry is due to the entire profession ignoring the dietary causes.
Thank you so much for that book suggestion, which I've just ordered.
If I can get him away from the clutches of that system, I hope to do so, as he is a really big-hearted, well-intentioned, creative and funny guy whose potential and life force have been squandered and suppressed by his involuntary incarceration in that system.
Yes, he is indeed addicted to carbs and sugars, which he gets plenty of at his facility. He and the other patients are all smokers too, which he knows is unhealthy, but I think the patients pursue feel-good chemicals because their lives are so controlled and lacking in other pleasures. He dreams of a girlfriend too, because of course sex is verboten and repressed by the drugs.
I look forward to reading that book. Thanks so much, Debbie!
you may the Breggins already? Dr. Peter Breggins spoke out against psych meds for a long time ... https://gingerbreggin.substack.com/.
Best wishes for your brother getting real healing. There is a charity called Metabolic Mind that may be helpful, founded by parents of a son with bipolar disorder. The keto diet has given him his life back. They have videos on YouTube that are excellent. It is exciting to see more doctors coming onboard with metabolic therapy for mental illness.
Thanks for that recommendation as well. I will look into it. And thank you also for the best wishes for my brother.
I agree Debbie that a lot of the problem are being caused by our foods. These grocery stores are toxic. Not only food but hygiene, cosmetics, and cleaning supplies. We have been growing our own food. We supplement any food by purchasing it from our neighbors who are farmers and ranchers. All the meats we buy are from ranchers who let their livestock live off the land. Same for all our dairy. If it's not organic and non-GMO, we don't get it. They don't vaccinate or feed them GMOs. We then swapped out all the hygiene products with ones that only have 4 or 5 ingredients and many are made by our neighbors. My wife makes some of her own. And cleaning products are the same. I can read every ingredient and know what every one of them are. Since we made these changes, we rarely get sick. If we do, it's just a sniffle here and there. Our overall wellbeing has improved greatly. I used to get sick 3 to 4 times a year and it would linger for 3 to 6 weeks. I was dumb for going to see a doctor who would provide more toxins. We got back to the basics when one of us becomes sick. It didn't happen overnight. It took a while to research and learn.
It is hard to believe what we have been eating for decades. People have no idea what has happened to our food supply. The sad thing is that it is just here in the US. I went to Mexico last spring and Italy last month and the food is different.
Yes, it is hard to believe! They even put up a fight when people were asking for proper labeling. That was telling. There are so many toxins in the grocery store foods. If people would take the time to read and look up the ingredients, maybe they would change. They are deceptive. It makes sense why we're a sick nation and overweight. I can't believe I weighed 250lbs at 5' 10'. After changing the diet, my weight now stays between 155-160lbs. I felt so much better. I stopped snoring which was nice since I would get pushed and poked. LOL I lived in Spangdahlem, Germany for almost 4 years and traveled all over Europe and their food was much different and good. They don't have GMO crops in Europe or Russia. Why does it continue here. It's safer to grow your own and buy from people you trust. Just the taste of homegrown veggies and fruits is so much better. I'm happy people are waking up to this. I also do the microgreens and sprouts. I'm in the middle of making up 2 trays to put under the grow lights. I compared 2 bottles of Heinz Ketchup from Canada and US. They were identical except for one thing. Canada uses sugarcane and the US had high fructose corn syrup which I personally believe causes liver problems.
Good for you! I agree that Americans are overweight and sick due to the food we eat. Warren Buffett and Bill Gates are responsible for high fructose corn syrup being used in our food instead of sugar.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/bill-gates-warren-buffett-obesity-corn-syrup/
Like they always say: follow the money. It is disgusting how many wealthy people have made themselves wealthier at the expense of other people's well-being.
I cut out a lot of sugar. Every so often I'll crave a piece of chocolate and cave. I know sodas are bad but I will have one every once in a while. I'll get the coke in the Mexican bottles since it's sugarcane. I learned they also spray the sugarcane heavily with glyphosate not long before harvesting it. I will only get the Wholesome organic raw sugar. And I know flour is sprayed heavily and it's genetically different. I do believe there is a link here for some having issues with gluten. I'll buy the Jovial 100% Organic Einkorn organic flour. I just bought a 10lb bag and it was $42 dollars. I would rather pay up front for better food instead of a doctor. I wish I could grow everything but it's impossible. Thankfully, I can get other items from my neighbors who farmers and ranchers. Like all the beef and chicken are organically raised. No vaccines or GMO feed. They live off the pasture. Same for dairy. It is costly though. Milk is $12 a gallon and I can usually get eggs between $5 and $6 dollars.
It's clear as day, these evil parasites want us sick and dead. I can see right through this whole death jab and what's it's being used for. You're absolutely right. They want to make the money off other people's well-being. They also want to cull the majority of the population. Many of these psychopaths are connected and related. I'm happy to see so many fighting back. I think we're just getting warmed up. As more truth comes out, there will be no place for them to hide. They're already losing the information warfare that's taking place. There will be no military big enough to stop what's coming.
I’ve been reading these comments on institutionalization and my head is spinning. I lived adjacent to a “mental hospital” in Upstate New York in my early years. There was a plot of land - 15 or 20 acres - used for farming vegetables. During the growing season, I would watch the patients come out with the rakes and hoes and work the land. They weren’t a harm to themselves or others. One patient would yell up into the clouds “kill that monkey” for reasons known only to himself (???). We kind of chuckled but never worried about him. I’ve mentioned this before in these comments. It went on for years; then suddenly it was gone, the land plowed over and the hospital closed down. What happened to our “kill that monkey” fellow? If incompetent, politically-motivated and money-grubbing bureaucrats, etc. was the source of the horror show, can we do better the next time?
There was a big push in the 1980's to close all mental institutions because they were deemed to be cruel and were expensive to run. I think they turned many out into the streets. The beginning of homelessness.
It is my understanding that Reagan did it. I don't know a lot about it but I do remember when that happened.
Dr Georgia Ede is a psychiatrist who has a history of helping her patients using a very low carb diet.
If you need any help with this type of thing, Citizen's Commission on Human Rights fights the good fight against the abuses of psychiatry: https://www.cchrint.org/
Wow, thank you so much! I will look into them and see what help and resources they can provide.
Thank you for sharing your story. ♥️
Thank you for sharing your story. We are all a few brain chemicals away from losing control in our lives. It’s understandable that you felt devastated by the changes in society, and by the realization that there was something very dark and evil going on. I wish you the best in your continued healing. Hope you are eating healthy, exercising, and getting lots of sunlight. You are right about those institutions. I had a friend years ago who was bipolar and would have a manic episode, and there was a hospital called Grasslands in Westchester county, and they drugged my friend so badly to keep her there longer. They needed a certain amount of bodies in the place to get money from the state. At one point she was being chased around by another patient, who was trying to molest her. And when she complained and was very upset about it, they said. “ you’re still manic”. It was some kind of hell. Bless you and may you have better times ahead.
Turns out it wasn’t brain chemicals, which explains the abysmal success rate for conventional psychiatry. They refused to look at diet for all these years. It is maddeningly tragic the unnecessary suffering so many have endured, when correcting the diet to heal the mitochondria is a cheap solution with no harmful side effects. I am opposed to long term hospitalization, and thankfully, so are all decent psychiatrists. Today, hospital stays are only a few weeks to get the patient stabilized. Then they are released. And no one should ever be hospitalized without a family member or close friend acting as their advocate.
I believe that diet controls/alters brain chemicals. And yes, strategies like intermittent fasting , near infrared , the low-dose naltrexone, immune modulating, herbs, etc.. are great and gentle ways to help the body get back in balance. And the spirit must be considered as well.
Diet has been scientifically proven to determine mitochondrial health. All the alternative therapies combined cannot overcome an improper diet. If the mitochondria are healthy, the rest of the body will be also.