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AL's avatar

I understand that last night's VSRF with Steve Kirsch was about the "news" that SV-40 was "discovered" in Pfizer's vials (it's not news--it's been known for well over a year that Pfizer's "vaccine" is "contaminated" with SV 40)---and how individuals can now "sue Pfizer" for not revealing that fact to "regulators."

Win or lose, suing Pfizer would be a very narrow avenue with a very limited result and only after years of litigation. It also overshadows the fact that these vaccines were not "contaminated"--SV 40 was a deliberate INSERT.

The most interesting part of the entire 1.5 hours of this VSRF podcast was Jeff's last line, "Most of my readers would say that the vaccines ARE working for their intended purpose." Everyone laughed and both Jeff and Kirsch said, "That is a whole other discussion."

Kirsch always pivots when it gets to this point and I understand that he did not want Jeff to go there-not blaming Jeff because that is not what he was invited to talk about. However, it should be noted that every time a guest brings up what is actually behind this democide, Kirsch pivots. He has done so with Dr. Mike Yeadon, Sasha Latypova and here, among many other instances.

My question is this: Who needs numerous years of “debate” over the safety of an injection that was clearly shown to be a military operation intended to kill its own citizens? I would like the discussion to come out of "vax bad" to wtf was this all about and who was/is behind it?

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Bgagnon's avatar

Hit the nail on the head!! Also, per Sasha Latypova, Pfizer could always be sued ... for fraud and only fraud.

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Erin Fight's avatar

Exactly with regard to the Kirsch pivot. Heard him the other day with Stew Peters, who is all about extreme accountability. Couldn't get Kirsch to even flirt with the FACT that these jabs are achieving their intended consequence (death).

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Ripple's avatar

I think the real intended consequence is mass infertility. Y'know, so we can have less people destroying the planet so we can save Mother Earth from Gorebull Warning. The immediate deaths are an added bonus.

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Peter 🔒's avatar

Maybe Mr. K is a data-collecting Entrepreneur? Did he ever work at a high level at infoseek? Is Mr K a Dem mega donor? Does he endorse RFK? Is he friendly with Thiel? What does Palantir do? SV peeps rub elbows all the time. Maybe he is just a node on this web of doo-doo -- allowed to play a role, but in a specific topic only? Do we have proof Mr. K jabbed himself? what about his kids? Lots of questions here...

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AL's avatar

Kirsch (through his moderators) says that he doesn't have time to focus on these other issues, that he has "other priorities." That statement alone is a red flag to me, just like the DOJ didn't have time to look into Hunter Biden's laptop. Really, it's more about navigating the conversation around the elephant in the room. He doesn't have time it seems to ever discuss the main issue underlying this operation.

Yes, he endorses RFK, he is a Dem mega-donor and he also worked, PRIOR to Covid, with the development of Remdesivir and with the DOMAINE exercise, along with....drum roll please...Robert Malone. And more as you suggest. I suppose damning affiliation is not proof of him "playing a role" but it should raise questions. And it has. I have raised them and been banned as a result from his Substack. He has also challenged me to a debate on Space X where he has expressly refused to provide me with the rules, parameters and any other relevant terms to that debate, UNTIL I show up for it. We have never spoken.

These are simple, straightforward questions that he refuses to respond to in writing. You would think that anyone in his position would be eager to clear these things up.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

"He has also challenged me to a debate on Space X where he has expressly refused to provide me with the rules, parameters and any other relevant terms to that debate, UNTIL I show up for it."

Wait, what?

Are you serious?

Or, how could anyone construe his challenge as serious under those conditions? I would never agree to unknown terms and conditions in a public debate. The lightest, lamest charge would be something like... ungentlemanly? The worst, I dunno, manipulative? Cheating? Insane? Well, maybe not insane but really? No sane person would agree to such a challenge. Which he certainly knows, so... here's a leap 🤔...

...the dude's a con man? In on it on another level. Stringing hero worshippers along some long, drawn out, hopeful, but dead end road.

I saw the podcast (recording); his smile and nodding to Jeff's assertion that the DoD has sovereign immunity and can't be sued, the DoD fact/s he never addresses in his voluminous writing, speaking of elephants in the room; and comment in response to Jeff's observation that a lot of C&C readers would say that vaccines are working for their intended purpose, "...a whole other discussion." Yep, complete sidestep. No last minute thought or invitation expressed to HAVE the other discussion sometime. Why? Why avoid the potent and potential dam-breaking conversation? Doesn't have to be conclusive, only open the door. Or floodgates.

Another limited hangout.

Thanks for posting your experience.

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

Which intended purpose are you referring to for the vaxx to be working? Killing us off, or preventing Covid? It can't be preventing Covid because everyone I know that got vaxx'd has gotten Covid multiple times over since getting the shot.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Killing us.

Also, if you watch the video it's Jeff's comment, not anyone else's - certainly not mine! Implied, not stated at 1:22:57

https://rumble.com/v3rps3s-vsrf-live-100-pfizer-vaccine-adulteration-a-time-to-sue.html

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AL's avatar

Yes, when you listen you can tell what he means, which is that we, his readers, have made it known that we believe this “vaccine” to have been deliberately developed to kill us.

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SLien's avatar

I agree, but wonder why. Depopulation?

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Yes, depopulation and disabling the rest ultimately to reach WEF's goal that "the US will no longer be a super power". That's even listed on the WEF website. Dr Pierre Kory's Newsweek op-ed showed the devastating effects this is having on our workforce. Deaths and disabilities at an all time high aren't conductive to a productive nation, nor can we defend ourselves. The effects of the infertility won't be seen and recognized for several years and will only add to the chaos.

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AL's avatar

Yes, slowly, and to otherwise disable us with resulting health issues. They’ve been doing it for decades in various ways. It seems this is has been a drastic move. Running out of time?

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devoalan's avatar

This bioweapon had one major point y’all seem to be missing. It caused a stolen election, so obviously stolen that we have video of mules taking photos of fake ballots in order to get paid. If you don’t think these evil bastards thought of all this, when pelosi and Obeyme talked China into taking the blame for the “accidental” release, thereby guaranteeing that they could steal this election, and get the one guy at the top, who was an obvious landslide shoe in out if office? Paying China with 85 billion worth of American military hardware and the abrupt disastrous exit from Afghanistan? And the pricks in the letter agencies assisting at every turn, the media as always but this time with a vengeance, to get the one guy calling them all fake news before it was fashionable? And this thing the injected to those sorry patsies with, without recording every injection of who got what, or hiding it, knowing there would be sterility issues, heart issues, immune system issues, but if we mix them all up, there’s no way to pinpoint it. This was genocide on a grand scale, stored until such a convenient time as this to unleash on the world. Execution should be slow and very painful.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Uh duh... yup

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Politico Phil's avatar

Tricia Lindsay was reported to be unable to attend the podcast due to a flat tire on the road. I'm calling BS on that. I've seen her before and she would not have been as low-key as Childers. She would have been more of a challenge to Kirsch.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Agree on her formidable personal strength. Let me strap on my shiny, crinkly hat here... Ok, ready. Maybe there was a flat. If Kirsch is connected as in limited hangout, a phone call could have seen to it, even at the last minute. Anyone could find out for sure by asking her. If the story is bs, wonder what she has to lose by calling him out? Or, maybe it's not worth her energy to go there because she's figured him out? Move on. I don't have answers, just a tin foil hat.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I upgraded my hat to stainless.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Wise man. Much more durable with all the doffing and onning.

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alongername's avatar

"Another limited hangout."

Possibly a few Sageites visitng this Stack.

I find that ALL the bandleaders refuse to say what their favorite song is ( who and how to turn this genocide and tyranny around)

Self preservation ( and KO FI ) are top priority . Even for me

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Analogous: The highest goal of the medical industry should be to implement answers (most of which I suspect are known but suppressed, another discussion), to put itself out of business or shrink itself to a minimum size, indicating most would be healthy and thriving. Whoa. Very, very bad business decision. No, I've got it all wrong: the busine$$ needs to *grow*, not suffer. ...The god money is so elevated in earth systems consciousness that it is a priority above human life.

I think someone else here in the past few days posted this quote: "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Jiddu Krishnamurti

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Dick's avatar

Exactly! Limited hangouts are no different than red herrings, outright lies (if not worse) or any other shilling deceiving trick to consume our attention, obscuring crimes, cluttering crime scenes and covering for criminals. Away with them! Keep naming names!

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daverkb's avatar

I agree with the entire thread here. And these things badly need saying over and over as being very constructive criticism. The upside is that Lawyer Childers got hear by many, many people. And a lot of them are smart enough to read in between the lines.

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Peter 🔒's avatar

I've had a few comments deleted / MOD'd off as well. They hate questions! 👊❤

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AL's avatar

Yes, what legitimate medical freedom warrior hates questions?

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Kim D's avatar

Very Interesting.

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alongername's avatar

Exactly !! Just as the same old same old "we have to make laws" and "we have to hold people responsible" comments . THEY own all the lawmakers. And back all the people responsible !! THINK ABOUT IT !

And so SK and Malone and Jay somehow STILL have people cheering them . Might as well take the "next shot" if your critical thinking has not seen through their OP.

Problem is, AL , it ain't me that's gonna march out there with a loudspeaker to "wake the people up" . Seems like even on well-meaning forums the bandleaders don't risk doing that .

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AL's avatar

I know. The real warriors get killed or doxxed or worse. Mostly they don’t even get a seat at the table to begin with. It makes you wonder- is anyone “speaking out” that’s still alive legitimate?

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Cindi's avatar

Why do you think Kirsch is doing that?

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devoalan's avatar

Gotta be the best satirist here.

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Jordan's avatar

How can you say this? I was double vaccinated plus boosters and it saves my life. I was on the brink of death (ICU and ventilator) and recovered. If I didn’t take that vaccine, I wouldn’t be here defending Science against MAGA republicans. There is no real proof of the contaminants. Anyone can make those up.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

"Jordan" is apparently new here. 🤓

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Jordan's avatar

What do you mean? I’m confused

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Yes, you are very "confused" if you believe that you need 6+ injections containing who-knows-what made with an experimental technology (CRISPR Cas 9, ie, genetic editing) that has always failed in lab animals, for an illness with a recovery rate of 99.97%. Researchers have tried and failed for decades to create a vaccine for the prevention of the common cold, but suddenly, no less than FOUR pharmaceutical manufacturers (one that had NEVER brought any successful product to market -> Moderna) were able to "create" up a "vaccine" for a "novel" (patented) coronavirus in less than one year!🤣 And this "vaccine" does not prevent anyone from contracting "covid" nor does it stop transmission to another person, even though the govt lied and said it would. And there's absolutely NO WAY to prove if it "reduces symptoms" because everyone reacts differently to respiratory illnesses due to many underlying factors (age, health status, etc). The last jab was "tested" on 8-10 MICE that were then euthanized so no long term data could be collected. Once you learn how your body's immune system actually works (the process starts in your sinuses, nasal passages and throat), it's pretty easy to understand that "vaccines" injected into your bloodstream are useless, not to mention all the poison adjuvants they use to "enhance" your body's reaction.

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Jordan's avatar

What’s funny? I wouldn’t be here typing this comment if it wasn’t for the evidence-based scientific developments that Joe Biden helped develop so quickly. Credible, century old sources, like the Washington Post and New York Times, time and time again that the vaccine was and still is safe and effective. They also have displayed countless studies that empirically proved the vaccine save millions even billions of lives (Yes, that is is billion with a B. According to the Washington Post, who knows how quickly the virus would evolve and become more deadly and contagious). Now, I need to ask: Who is laughing now. It’s not you, that’s for sure. 🤣😂🤣 Educate yourself

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Politico Phil's avatar

Bahaha. Luv it

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Jordan's avatar

What do you love Phil? Men?

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Politico Phil's avatar

Who do you love? Oh, excuse me....WHAT do you love?

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Jordan's avatar

As a heterosexual, I love females. I wish I could say the same for you.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Thanks for identifying yourself -Troll.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I gotta hand it to you. Some of the best satire I've even seen and you maintain without breaking stride. You should publish.

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Jordan's avatar

Thanks. I’m trying to troll my mother but I think she blocked me

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Connect The Dots's avatar

You got 2 vaccines and boosters (plural) while you were on the brink of death and then recovered?

You were in the ICU for months and they just kept giving you vaccines (by your account at least 4)?

Wow, so glad you're here to tell the tale!

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OnTheJump's avatar

"It" is a bot.

✔ profile.

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Jordan's avatar

Buddy. I’m not a bot.

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Jordan's avatar

Wrong. Now it’s been nearly a year and I’ve almost made a full recovery and have had seven Covid shots (the original 2 + 5 supplementary boosters). According to one of the doctors, I have developed a benign (hopefully, it’s benign. They’re not sure yet, but apparently it’s growing extremely fast.) tumor, but after that should make a speedy recovery. I have no idea what I would’ve done if the Science was unreliable. Thank you for the kind words. I too am glad I am able to continue living

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Politico Phil's avatar

Wow, not a single break in your front! Very good.

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