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Donna in MO's avatar

Where are all the women? I was at my mom's last week and she had some MSM channel and the talking head was talking about the 'migrants' in NYC. I told her our country is being invaded, this is not what they are showing on TV - somewhere they dredged up footage large family groups coming across the border, complete with closeups of cute children. I said - mom, the majority of the influx is military aged men, NOT families. Her response? I am so disappointed that you have no compassion for these people. Tried to show her the video outside the NYC hotel and she refused to watch it. Question is how many others are clueless? And do they vote?

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TriTorch's avatar

A US Male Migrant Of Military Age Told His Uber Driver That He Is Employed As A Soldier By The United Nations: https://tritorch.com/degradation/AMaleMigrantOfMilitaryAgeToldHisUberDriverThatHeIsEmployedAsASoldierByTheUnitedNationsOctober2032.mp4 [1:10mins]

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Politico Phil's avatar

Unfortunately, as expected. When the USG Communists take military action against the American people, they will do it under the guise of the UN using these "imported" troops. In reality, they are terrorists for the Bolsheviks with blue helmets and they will be used against us by our own government.

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Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government. —Henry A. Kissinger

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Mary H.'s avatar

Time for patriotic Americans to stand up for Liberty!

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

Benjamin Franklin

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PamelaZelie's avatar

We gave up our liberty during the covid farce.

Remains to be seen if we ever regain it.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Not all of us did...

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Mary H.'s avatar

I pray that the majority of Americans are awake now!!

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Angk's avatar

They aren't. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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PamelaZelie's avatar

A great prayer to offer.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

We gave up our liberty following the Sep 11 farce.

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Mary H.'s avatar

The Patriot Act was the beginning… they will keep taking more if we don’t push back .

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CH's avatar

But we did not give up our guns and in fact, more Americans own guns than ever before. It might get ugly but there are a lot of us that will take many of "them" with us if it comes to it.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Are there any patriotic Americans in office? Any Governors??? I know there are some sheriffs and we better get to know them....and they need to know who they can count on.

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Special Ted's avatar

Sheriffs receive federal $$'s and they will obey whomever pays their retirement. Maybe 3% of all Sheriffs have enough spine to uphold the Constitution...MAYBE. That number is all we need, though. I always enjoy your comments, Phil. I hope my comment doesn't offend you. God bless you!

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Politico Phil's avatar

Not at all. I totally agree with you. I'm thankful there have been a few that have stood their ground and told the Bolsheviks "No!" Even a few in California but especially the sheriff in Arizona.

The responsibility always seems to fall to the few to stand up for, even in the American Revolution. The Second American Revolution (aka the Civil War) failed. It's time for a third American Revolution!

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AL's avatar

Great question. The elitist agenda has already infiltrated most offices at the state and local levels. The good guys were doxxed out.

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consuelo's avatar

I wish you, whoever you are, would stop huckstering your T-shirts at every internet site you can locate.

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Special Ted's avatar

It's just too easy for them, and they can't resist. Law of averages, and all. This is a well-read 'Stack, so I'm surprised there aren't more of them here. That's why that shill Benji 2n's can't stay away...he's a true believer and he loves conflict. I recognize it because I also love conflict.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Made BY BOTS, FOR BOTS.

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Tom's avatar

Can I just get all of them as a DLC? Or are they only available as in-app purchases?

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The Keys's avatar

Okay….

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devoalan's avatar

fuckin henry. great nazi. how he has lived as long, being this evil, is amazing. him and soros. death is too good for them.

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Kathy Sincere's avatar

Adrenochrome.

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Politico Phil's avatar

It's too evil to think about but it is the truth.

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Annie's avatar

Though these "un troops" might not be prepared for the lawless sh*tholes they will be going in.

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TriTorch's avatar

Nazi Major Strasser: Are you one of those people who cannot imagine the Germans in their beloved Paris? ... How about New York?

Rick: Well there are certain sections of New York, Major, that I wouldn't advise you to try to invade. —Casablanca, 1942

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

That’s the plan Tritorch IMO

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AL's avatar

Oh yes, we are already being "leaked" info that in those border crossings came "Hamas sleeper cells" waiting to wreak carnage on Americans. It will happen. It has to happen, and people have to die so we welcome UN soldiers with open arms.

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Eileen's avatar

Problem, reaction, solution. They create the problem, the citizens react by saying "Save us!" and the government brings in THEIR solution - UN troops - which is what they wanted to do along!

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Politico Phil's avatar

And they just created a new problem in Israel. And somehow Israeli defense had stood down so the attack could succeed. What a surprise!

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OnTheJump's avatar

Nice find, TriTorch.

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TriTorch's avatar

Sorry, you put find in quotes, can you say why? That quote is from a 1991 Bilderberg Conference and is widely known

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OnTheJump's avatar

TriTorch - NOT as any slight to you, to be sure. I was not certain the word 'find' was the best word for me to use, and felt you deserved credit for having located a very appropriate quote.

I removed the quotes - I hesitated using them to begin with.

Your posts are great, TriTorch - never intended any slight.

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TriTorch's avatar

Thank you OnTheJump, that is very kind of you to say 👍

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OnTheJump's avatar

'Tis the truth. Your contributions here are enjoyed by many of us.

Thank you.

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SusanMc's avatar

Ugh! Kissinger. Isn’t he 100 by now?

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Kim D's avatar

Nazi

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SadieJay's avatar

That explains why the world is turning into literal hell, the old evil soul is still alive. Why?

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Politico Phil's avatar

So it seems. Took the words right out of my mouth.

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Kim D's avatar

Exactly. That's probably want happened in Israel. The Babylonian Rahdinites are using this False Flag to coverup all the deaths from one of the most jabbed countries in the world and of course there's the oil and gas grab in the Mediterranean Sea. If anyone really thinks Israel was caught off guard, they probably also believe the Chinese balloon story.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Good point! Exactly.

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SusanMc's avatar

Or their fortune cookie

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

how can illegals be soldiers of a foreign army? are the UN even a legal organization? I noticed a few months ago, when Mark Stein was still in the UK, how all these young men have the last model iphones and are sending pictures from where they are. To whom? Very interesting. We live in scary interesting times.

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Mary H.'s avatar

This is alarming.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Like the brutes who attacked the truckers in Canada.

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E.Z. Prine's avatar

Not to mention Australians who said they were attacked by clearly foreign men with masks when their peaceful demonstrations were disrupted by "police"

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AusYank's avatar

Thanks for this comment, yes the ragtag band of freedom patriots here tracked the flights coming in and the odd insignia on their arms. I put a pic of them on my Substack about the state of the media here in Australia: https://resistanceactionaustralia.substack.com/p/media-in-australia-aka-pravda-down

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Peregrine's avatar

Yikes!

Imagine what would happen if these guys shoot up polling places in red precincts!

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

There’d look like a colander pretty quick.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I think we need to make that a new verb—ie they just colandered those UN soldiers 😆

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Jay Horton's avatar

Yep! What she said.

Later Jay

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RJ Rambler's avatar

They don't need to because voting is irrelevant anyway.

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devoalan's avatar

they will die. i guess tptb think these guys, mostly unarmed, are gonna be the kill shot. instead of the shot &killed. your feds, hard at work.

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Politico Phil's avatar

The invasion is organized and paid for by the USG in Central America and the young men are bussed from the border in unmarked busses to organization camps, which Abbott conveniently doesn't see, around the country where these men are organized and armed, I'm sure with weapons diverted from the Ukraine war.

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Scott Kinghorn's avatar

Yes!!! I can't believe our fucking Govt. is allowing this!! To hell with any and all amnesty now. Again this isn't racist

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gustavi's avatar

Allowing this? Our gov't is doing this!!

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Politico Phil's avatar

Now that is the real situation.

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wily_coyote-genius's avatar

We are so not ready for full scale war since we’ve sent all our weapons, military equipment and money to Ukraine. We are so screwed!

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

Well, resident Peter's did say we would need more than AR15's to go up against his government. That's who we will be at war with, not some other country. But rest assured, resident Peter's already knows they have all the backing they need from the UN, all the 3 letter agencies, and probably most, if not close to all our very own military. Some of those weapons sent to Ukraine are probably holed up somewhere here to be used against us by their illegal alien recruits. I don't trust ANYONE within our governments. If politicians aren't speaking loudly against all the corruption, then they are in it. DeSantis is weak, he throws out tidbits of crumbs to appear he is on it, but does nothing. MTG, Kari Lake, they are vocal as he!! about what's going on. There are others, too, but We the People need to start getting vocal, more vocal and active within our communities. If we don't, we are done and no longer free.

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Tom's avatar

It was important to get all that war materiel to a place where it will be safe. Someone will want to use it when our government is no longer a consideration.

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TriTorch's avatar

You got it, Tom. Good to know some see through the ruse.

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Tom's avatar

Nowadays, everything is a ruse until proven otherwise.

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TriTorch's avatar

Truer words were never spoken

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Paula Mitchell's avatar

And our emergency oil supply is critically low

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Barbara Moser's avatar

If this is legitimate- it needs to be shown to every state police department. I hope that Uber driver did report him.

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

Gee, wonder if this is the plan to screw with the elections 🙄...if this crap goes down we may never have another election!

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Melanie Eccles's avatar

Wow, I don't know what else to say...

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Peter GL's avatar

wow! But then why does he have to come from the hole in the border? And since when does the UN have an active military? Unless they mean Blue Helmet Peacekeepers, in which case they should be able to get him a visa to come in by plane. What is the DHS doing about this?

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AL's avatar

I'm getting a little annoyed at this substack which I otherwise love. Is Jeff seriously this clueless? These are all deliberate orchestrations by one group of decision-makers and all leading up to exactly what you are reporting. He must know. Why isn't he talking about it?

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Don't doubt it.

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Shari Ray's avatar

This needs to go viral!!!! NOW!!!!

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Tess's avatar

Terrifying stuff, though not shocking as our country has long ago become compromised. Thanks for posting.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Oh, isn't that just lovely.........

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

sounds totally believable.

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Janet's avatar

Libs always bring up the families we must support. You open your houses first, but if that was next door to me, I’d make sure they noticed the muzzle of a firearm legally owned. This whole thing isn’t “Wagon Train” (oops, aged me there) but a train of subversives on buses

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Debra S Heard's avatar

Poland opened their houses and later faced all kinds of lawsuits,( trying to get them to move out, or repair damages, or for crimes they have done) from the illegals and illegals won. We do not want to go down that road of being used.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Did you see the story about the woman who took over an AirBnB and won't leave? And she's an American.

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Kim D's avatar

Having rental property or unoccupied property is very precarious these days. Squatters have more rights than property owners, especially in liberal leaning areas. It's been a problem for a while now.

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Debra S Heard's avatar

Have not seen it.

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consuelo's avatar

A Harvard girl. The most crooked, conniving, evil gal. She preys on people full-time.

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Media Luna's avatar

Do you know her name?

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consuelo's avatar

Elizabeth Hirshhorn is her name. I hope I spelled it correctly. Her behavior is deplorable.

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Peter GL's avatar

entitled Harvard leftie

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

She is living in an Airbnb in Brentwood...a high end residential area in Los Angeles.

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Annie's avatar

I laugh at the libbies, white and of color, who are now realizing they are not important and the government and their party don't care. So all the "hate has no home here" virtue signaling loons need to buck up and let the migrants stay in their homes. Otherwise they are raycist, science deniers just like me. Can't have that now. 😄😉

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Janet's avatar

(Libs open doors first)

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Randy Little's avatar

Open *others’* doors...

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Peter GL's avatar

Maybe Nancy should invite some of them in her house? I'm sure she has the room. Besides, they would feel secure behind her walled compound

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Lew's avatar

Where's Ward Bond when we need him?

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Shari Ray's avatar

That mayor should show by example!! 😂😂 we all know that won’t happen!!

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Peter GL's avatar

That would be called leadership, but the Demoncrats lead by saying what the populace should do and rarely do it themselves

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

Clueless? Far too many.

Do they vote? Yes, and some repeatedly.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

it is unbelievable that some states allow voting without showing identification. When I first read this I thought they were mistaken. I live in GA and here there is quite a decent control for voting. Driver's licence, and that is only given to US citizens and green card holders, comparing your name and signature and picture... and then, you can vote. One thing, off and no, refused.

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CeCe Brown's avatar

My adult disabled daughter prints her signature. She voted by mail in 2020. We got a phone call after she mailed in her vote concerned about signature. We had to go into office and she had to redo her vote and show ID. At least the Florida panhandle is doing something right....at least once.

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SB's avatar

My state, NC, is finally requiring ID to vote next year, first time. Legislature voted it in years ago and then the libs took it to court and kept it in court fighting it for years, claiming discrimination, of course, but we prevailed, courts said ID to vote is NOT discrimination.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

oh my I had no idea. Never voted anywhere but here in GA and thought all states had the same system! Thinking this was a US thing, until about a year ago, I read that statement from CA where no identification is required. No wonder they get all kinds of people shipped in to vote ! Thanks SB, for updating me!

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Kitkat's avatar

Commiefornia resident here. Back in the day, you'd have to show ID to vote. That was changed a few years back. Illegals can get drivers licenses and now Gruesome Newsom has declared all mail-in ballots are the way to go. Gee...just when you think the corruption and cheating couldn't get any worse.

Born and raised here...and it's not the state I remember. I can't wait to flee and move to America.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

God forbid that man ever becomes president. We need to move to Middle America then. All illegals in, Americans out... like many already fled to Mexico and abroad. So sad. Let me know if you were to move here LOL

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

A fellow Commiefornian here...I have never shown an ID to vote in CA or even register to vote. I have been voting for 51 years.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Ingrid, it probably was a 'U.S. thing,' until it wasn't, thanks to the communist takeover of some state governments. When I registered to vote in Florida, I had to show a birth certificate - one with the raised stamp on it, not a photocopy. When I voted, I had to physically sign a register, and they compared that signature to the one on file.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

that is how it should be! I registered when they knew very well I was a citizen because they just allowed me LOL. At least there are a few more states where govt tries to do along the rules!

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Kristi's avatar

I was shocked when we moved to WA state almost 20 years ago and received a ballot in the mail to fill out and mail back in…..no I’d required. My children received them once they got their drivers license. They are grown and have moved away. Register and vote in other states yet every year still get WA ballots mailed to our home. You can’t tell me there isn’t major fraud going on.

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Sharon Wood's avatar

WA governor is WEF grad.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

well, that explains it all, a globalist - exterminator

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

it is an invitation to fraud !

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Heather's avatar

No ID needed in MN...all you need to register to vote (same day registration) is someone to vouch for you that you live here (maybe an ID too, but not necessarily a MN ID)....college kids are encouraged to vote so despite not being MN residents, they can and I’m sure do, impact our elections a ton...oh, and we just passed some drivers license for all bill, so now illegals will have MN ID’s for that same day registration

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

not good. I am going to make a list of the states where only americans can vote! this is unheard of, and totally not right. Does not happen in Europe, but political parties there have found other ways around the vote, to corrupt the government (several non-majority parties gluing together to beat the larger party etc)

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FreeBird07's avatar

No ID required in NV.

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SB's avatar

Oh gosh no, IDK if anyone has a list but my understanding is that not many states require voter ID. I was the same shocked as you in reverse when I saw GA requires it.

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Sharon's avatar

Ohio requires state id. even for mail ins

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RunningLogic's avatar

I have to show my ID to vote in Indiana too.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

I live in CA and have never had to show any type of identification when voting. Nor to register to vote. Have been a registered voter and voting for 51 years in CA.

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Kitkat's avatar

Lupita, that's wild! My dad took me to vote when I was 18....1984- I voted for Reagan. I distinctly remember showing my ID and signing my name in the book. It was a honor and privilege to do that, with my dad beside me.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Also I have been an ‘absentee’ mail in voter for over 30 years.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

I don’t ever remember doing that. I started voting in 1972.

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Peter GL's avatar

In 2023 I can't understand the "discrimination of requiring ID to vote". You go to your doctor they ask for ID, go to pick up at Target they ask for ID, where is the discrimination?

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SB's avatar

I completely agree. I think you even have to have an ID to get social services?

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Eric in NC's avatar

Our (NC) photo ID requirement is riddled with loop holes around actually having to show photo ID!

Phil Berger and Tim Moore made sure of that!

It's as if the dems wrote the the rules around photo ID themselves!

I'm happy NC has voter ID again, but we need talk to our legislators about tightening up the rules that apply to voter ID.

And for God sakes, we don't need absentee ballots for just anyone anymore!!!

Absentee ballots should be reserved only for overseas military and the infirmed!

This is where most of the cheating occurs!

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Peace's avatar

SB - However, the NC ID law has so many loopholes in it. In lieu of i.d. prospective voters with no i.d. can checkmark various waivers along the lines of "applied for i.d. but it's in the mail" or "religious exemption" - there are about 7 or 8 equally fluid excuses for not providing an i.d. at the time of voting.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Yet Georgia was one of the states with the most egregious fraud and cheating, a lot of it caught on camera! Was anyone prosecuted? I don’t trust Kemp at all.

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mary's avatar

Please God, let Trump’s attorneys present the video footage in his trial in Atlanta. I live in Georgia too. Why did the vote counting stop for 3 hours on election night??? You know why.....

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

not to be trusted but did a fairly good job as gov. Kept from spending through the roof. Wonder who will be next. Difference in fraud might be between big city and small places like where I live (about 2500 in our small place, about 15000 or so in next place over)

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RJ Rambler's avatar

In Illinois, as a poll watcher which you really should volunteer to do choose your own place and hours, we have registration on the DAY, if they show ID that matches a physical address with a bill mailed to them in the past six? months then they can vote. Mail in voters are supposedly denied. If the system goes down, which it did several times and once for over an hour, besides ALL the time it took to REGISTER ALL THE NEW VOTERS in this BIG UNIVERSITY town then who knows what's happening. Then there's the election judges that lie and cheat. I stopped one once. 😑 Twenty first century and we are Rome. Who knew?

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I do not like the machine voting at all. Back in Belgium 20 years ago it was still all on paper, check before you vote etc. No messing there. Voting is obligatory when you are a belgian citizen and immigrants had to pay extra if they wanted voting rights. But now my family says it is all machine too. No idea if the other laws changed, but non voters are no longer emprisoned. Probably not even persecuted.

When I went last time the machine here in small town GA went down twice while I was in there (about 15 minutes). So there is a big no-no. Back to paper voting and indeed, lots of checkers from both sides. I think new voters have to register at least a few months before voting. Got my citizenship in August and was urged to register right there and then, which I did.

Not much has changed since Rome LOL

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devoalan's avatar

unless you mail them in from new jersey, say?

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

Would they not have to have credentials then? I have never seen mail-in voting documents. You are probably right. With an out-of-state drivers licence, I wonder what GA officials do.

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Kathryn Dewalt's avatar

Green card holders are NOT citizens. If they are allowed to have driver's licenses, are they marked as non-citizens? I honestly don't know much about who is given a "green card." I'm in CA... and Grabin Newssolini is all about this sort of criminality.

I believe we MUST get someone in the Oval Office in 2024, who will begin and follow through with a mass round up and deportation. It seems that might be our only way to be safe in our own country.

Naturally, many will evade such an action. But huge numbers would be run out... and those remaining would likely be less confrontive.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

Grabin Newssolini Hahahaha ! Kathryn that is the first laugh of my day.. What a great find.

I don't know if this is the difference, but before I became a citizen my driver's licence number was my social security number. I was advized to go for a new driver's licence that did not show my ss number. But this might just be random. It is making me angry to see how much trouble I had to go through to become legal (refused once, paperwork redone, then office 'misplaced' my test and had to wait more than a year from test to ceremony, for some present it took only 6 weeks) and moneywise - cross the border cost nothing - doing all and everything including 2 sleepover since I had to be there so early - almost 3000 $

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Kathryn Dewalt's avatar

Dopey app won't let me like your reply to MY reply. Keeps directing me to create an account...

If I didn't have an account, how did I reply to you? How have I managed to figuratively 'run my mouth' in comments? Huh?

When a mobile phone app has me questioning my mental acuity (when my family has never succeeded) I reckon some "kudos" are in order. Nevertheless, I'm old and do not want to waste valuable time 'arguing' with my phone.

All that to say... I liked your response! LOL

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

thanks for letting me know I am not the only one whose electronics seem to run amock ! Keep getting that message, or "for your safety we sent you a link" and then sometimes no link comes..

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Angk's avatar

If Georgia's voting system is so great, how did they steal the election in 2020? Probably even before and certainly after.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

i did not say the whole system is so great. i said that in our small town it is good. I have no idea how it is anywhere else in GA. but all off GA requires paperwork, contrary to several other states.

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Brenda Bergsma's avatar

.....but the green card holders may not vote, right?

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

GC holder may NOT legally vote.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

that is right. you can get a driver's licence on a green card, but you cannot vote. I have not tried to vote when on green card, so I don't know how close they watch for that. Got citizenship in 2012

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Becky's avatar

Washington Governor Inslee decreed (no one voted on it) that a ballot would be mailed to every address where a driver's license was given. Illegals can get drivers licenses. They also can have addresses. It is said that illegals know they cannot vote, and know the penalty for voting, but I wonder.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

sounds like putting the cat there with the milk. I didn't know illegals could get DL in Washington too. Need to read up on the States again after all these years!

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SusanMc's avatar

Alabama has no signature verification

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FourWinds's avatar

And some aren't even alive, yet they vote anyhow!

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

Ain't Democracy grand?!

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LMWC's avatar

We are the opposite. Our successful 40 something kids are the ones too busy to watch the news, but they swallow hook, line and sinker, everything that comes across their phones which is still msm propaganda.

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Rosemarie's avatar

I'm the mom,75. It's my 40 something kids that are clueless. They think I've gone off the deep end because I don't believe all the MSM talking points.

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Bingham22's avatar

I am a 41 year old Constitutional Conservative who saw through the psyop more than three years ago…it is my 82 and 84 year old parents who swallowed every lie MSM told, took 5 shots of the mRNA bioweapon, and ignore every study that I send them. Dad is dying of cancer from the shot, and Mom is definitely falling to Dementia.

They do recognize how evil our Government is, but somehow they just can’t transpose that over to the clot shots, or all the psyops since.

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SunnyRai's avatar

Same! Turbo - cancer resulting in death, one member had a stroke same day as their booster was administered, healthy medical profession adults in the family who are now having heart and breathing issues, but eat organic and healthy, workout daily--ALL "up to date" on their 💉..... but they just can't fathom what's causing their health issues.

🙄🤔

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I’m sorry Bingham. I am in your shoes. I nevwr bought it. I’m just so thankful my parents don’t either and are conservative. I just sometimes can’t believe it because my dad is a vietnam vet.

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daverkb's avatar

It is like a death march is organized by 'the government' and the people who show up for embarkation think they are going on an all expense paid 14 day cruise trip of the Mediterranean cruise. And the people are actually happy!

And so, the government kills and maims its own alleged 'citizens' while at the same time it is killing off the country. In all of this, the government essentially propagandizes and incentivizes people to exterminate themselves ... and VOLUNTARILY.

The situation is simply unbelievable!

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Kim D's avatar

IMO these people are not advanced enough in their consciousness to see through the propaganda. It has nothing to do with intelligence. Humanity has the opportunity to ascend in our evolution and escape Satan's world. Some will move forward and others will most likely get another chance next go round.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

so sorry Rosemarie - happens on both ends here. Father and older friends AND younger cousins. I have only 4 legged children and thankfully they do not have iphones

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Oh Ingrid, what would we do without the loyal 4 legged companions. They never bought into the madness around us!

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I would vote for a dog for president any day. I think I would even vote for the biting biden dog. Who knows what the animals goes through every day

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Tom's avatar

I should run my 3-legged dog. He's a veteran . . . of the marmot wars.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I will vote for him !

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Tom's avatar

He might be too busy "doing his business." This might be an improvement, though.

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Donna in MO's avatar

I have one of each, 28 and 30. One is a Trump supporter, the other voted for some socialist 3rd party candidate in 2020. Makes for interesting family gatherings.

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devoalan's avatar

yeah, i have bro and sisinlaw that are still getting boosters. i dont think they appreciate the illegals any, but their church tells them to.

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SusanMc's avatar

🤣

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Annie's avatar

Wow. I feel bad for all the family disruptions.

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LMWC's avatar

Same here. My kids think they know it all because they aren’t caught up in news 24/7, but they are more dependent on the msm because they lack discernment and a willingness to go against the flow.

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SB's avatar

Ah and so your kids should volunteer to host a border crosser, maybe you should volunteer them? People must wake up!

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Yes. My husband buys all that comes across his phone too. But he does want to watch msm too sometimes. Even tho I

tell him its junk. He does believe me tho when I tell him certain things are lies

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Compassion only goes so far.

Poor cats of all ages and health—- are stuck in shelters, “Cue “IN THE ARMS of an ANGEL”, so a lady gets 4 out of the terrible shelter, moves them into her home and acclimates them. It’s precious and kind. Weeks later, she gets 6 more, then 7 more, then one she got has 9 kittens, then she gets several

more. She can’t help herself, she’s so compassionate; she gets a dozen more. Everything is great except she can’t really give each of them attention, several are fighting among themselves,

she lugs home loads of cat food and is starting not to bother with litter and vets. Sooner or later, she has 66 cats, her entire home is one big litter box. sans litter, food has to be supplemented with cats killing birds. Several have dragged baby rabbits and even snakes into her home. There are so many cats in her bed, she feels guilty knocking them off to sleep so she’s taken to sleeping in a chair. The lady has a chronic cough due to the dander and litter. Her home, clothing & hair smells like ammonia and poop. Her family has become deeply

concerned. The cats are wild and discontented but she compassionate.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Great analogy. And it is hard to resist the cat collecting impulse. But we only have 3....

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FourWinds's avatar

All my cats were dump jobs... people dumped them off near by and they gravitated here. Luckily there are only 4.

I have no compassion for illegal aliens. I support legal immigration completely.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Same. One was a shelter cat, the other 2 were dumped, I blame the catnip plants in our yard. Lost one last year who ran away from his owner after a divorce 10 years ago. She would come and get him and he kept running away and she finally asked us to just keep him.

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😝 I hear ya. We had 3 cats, 3 kids, 2 dogs and 3 horses for years. My daughters had rabbits, too. We saved 3 from a bunch of guys living in trailers and sheds with orange cords going all over from a main house. The sign said, “RABBI’S for SELL!” ✡️ I HAD to see for myself whether rabbis were in fact, being sold. 😝 The rabbits were stacked on top of one another in cages like 4/6 cages high, NO water, no feed, 90°, a dozen rabbit skins hanging on a clothesline. Sadly our cats and a hawk got them, but their lives were magical for weeks after our compassionate rescue. Turns out, hawks are quicker than kids running inside to go potty and, to continue the previous analogy, cats aren’t always as kind and deserving of compassion as they appear. (Ours KNEW we loved those poor rabbits!) I dare say the same goes for illegals.

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Donna in MO's avatar

My youngest sister had a rabbit as a kid, and a stray dog jumped the backyard fence and got it. Very traumatic for her, she was 8 and saw it out the window. As an adult she fostered them as part of a rescue society for many years. They are cute, but are destructive, they chew on anything they can if you keep them indoors. Hard pass for me. And yes, cats and wild rabbits are not a great mix. I got a hysterical call from my kids when they were teenagers, they let one of our cats in not realizing he had a baby rabbit in his mouth, bleeding out. Supposedly cats bring us their kills as they think we are incompetent hunters and need help :-)

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Yep, we’ve had numerous squealing baby rabbits and other creatures dragged in to us by our cats. We sealed our cat door long ago (cat doors seem like a grand idea. Nope.) When we go out of town, the superior hunters leave one squirrel on each and every welcome mat by each and every door to the

home as if to say, “Please come home and never leave again. We promise we will bring more vittles.”

We’ve had 3 indoor rabbits, one of whom we named iHop (how cute is that?) and they rarely chewed anything at all BUT one did make a hole under our little guest bed and tinkled up there a good bit. We never knew till we went to

move. They had loads of sticks and wicker things we bought him to chew which no doubt helped and they had an entire guest room and tunnel to two of our kids’ rooms. Overall, they were better pets than a few of the cats we’ve had over the years and far better than the Cairn Terrior—aka Cairn Terror. HE dug more holes in my flower beds and chewed up furniture legs like they were sticks.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, pets are both a joy and a hassle. I am known to tell mine 'it's a good thing you are cute'.....

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Beckett's avatar

Even we, in a rural Iowan small town, have had at least 2 bus loads of all healthy and fit looking men dropped off in our community. I personally witnessed one. They all went into our local grocery store from their bus. A new hotel is being built here as for some reason our two, that have never been full for all these years, isn’t enough for a town of 3000 with no attractions or unique events. It’s getting hard not to be fearful. I always see at least a dozen men buying groceries together each time I go to either of the stores we have- and I don’t go very often. A 100% encounter rate of that sort is not good. And it’s not confined to our town, it’s going on in all the small communities here, in addition to the somewhat larger ones. Do you think they are purposefully infiltrating the rural communities that are staunchly conservative? This started a year and a half ago.

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Donna in MO's avatar

WOW! That is scary. I am in a red turning purple suburb and say the same thing about the breakneck pace at which apartment buildings are going up all over my city as well as the larger metro. Where are the people who are going to live in these places going to come from?! Our suburb has been growing but the greater Metro has seen very modest growth the last decade, although I do know 3 CA refugees (all conservatives fortunately) who have moved here to escape that madness. So far not seeing any evidence like yours, although I am staying away from the larger city as much as possible due to big increases in crime. My daughter in law was grazed by a bullet while driving home from an entertainment district just last week, granted it was 1:00 AM but she and her friends have no idea where it came from. She was driving, bullet grazed her arm and hit her friend in the passenger seat's middle finger, surgeons couldn't save it, and had to amputate. Thank God it was not worse, but scary nonetheless.

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Kim D's avatar

Terrible story Donna. I'm sure those girls were traumatized. It seems like the illegals are infiltrating every nook and cranny of the continent. We obviously can not physically do much as individuals but what we can do is stay out of fear and do the things that bring joy to our lives. Raising our individual vibration by being in nature and staying away from fear promoting media of all kinds is helpful. Faith that goodness and love wins is a mantra to keep in mind.

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Truth 101's avatar

Yes I think they would likely target small towns with illegals. They are targeting small towns with tranny drag shows. We have family in Texas that are witness to this.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Our town is loaded with them.

Later Jay

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RunningLogic's avatar

I really hate the lack of compassion pseudo argument when we all know the women and children coming in are just going to be abused and exploited ☹️

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yep, I told her that too. Like it did any good.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That really makes me sad, knowing people just don’t seem to care about what really happens with these people 😕😞

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Donna in MO's avatar

All about the virtue signaling. I am sure the moral superiority she FEELS trumps any truth that leaks out. I am coming around to thinking that the thing that ties all these sheep together is their propensity to lead with emotion as their primary guide. I get that we all get caught in that trap from time to time, but it's why traditional wisdom is to 'sleep on it' before making a big decision. Emotion clouds critical thought.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I completely agree. Emotion, guilt and unrealistic idealism leads them.

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Truth 101's avatar

The populace has been groomed for some time now to cater to their feelings above all else.

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Lorita's avatar

I agree.

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Emily M's avatar

My mom is the same. I understand your frustration.

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Donna in MO's avatar

She is in one of those retirement communities that are popping up like mushrooms all over our city and the greater KC metro. I look at the demographics - yes there is a huge influx of boomers heading into these places, mom was on a waiting list for months. But what happens to all of these places in 10-15 years? New landing spots for the 'unhoused' or 'the migrants'?

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Honestly, I’ll be surprised if the world is still around in 10-15 years.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Same. I also feel its coming soon. But only GOD knows the time!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good point 😕

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Donna in MO's avatar

I keep telling my city council people the same thing. They say 'good point' and then vote for incentives for yet another one....SMDH. (And most of them are 10 or more years younger than me and so will have more time to deal with it.)

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ugh that is incredibly frustrating 😕

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Ellen's avatar

My Mom was in one of those, and my SIL runs one - both high-end. Biggest problem? Finding people to work there. Most employees not doing admin work are (legal) immigrants. The women from the islands (trinidad, haiti, etc) were lovely and caring. Few workers from the local black population (Philly). FWIW.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, same with mom's place, although the help they can get are all white or black English speaking people. Had a lot of college students over the Summer but have struggled to replace them now that school is back in session. They've managed to keep CNA and nursing positions staffed (never had a jab requirement, I am friends with one of the nurses who started working there when the hospital she was at put a jab mandate in place), but dining room not unusual to wait 30+ minutes for her food as dining room is perpetually short staffed. When she was in a NH for rehab late last year though, there were a number of Caribbean immigrants on staff there, though, and they were much better than the non-immigrant staff, who were lazy and had an attitude.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Theynwill close when there is not enough business

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Donna in MO's avatar

Close, or become the new home for the 'unhoused' or 'migrants'?

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Notyours's avatar

Likely depends on whom they are owned by. If Blackrock et al, they will find something to do with them.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I believe they will close if no business with the elderly.

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Christy's avatar

So sorry Donna, but you are definitely not alone. I’m just proud of you for keeping a relationship with her💜💜💜

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Donna in MO's avatar

It's frustrating as she is so wedded to the idea that she is a D; when actually many of her views are completely at odds with today's D party. She is pro-life, pro police, and fights her doc over taking any new RX drugs as she 'doesn't trust pharmaceutical companies'. But she got the first 2 shots!?! Thank goodness her PCP told her not to get any more since she had a lot of skin reactions after the first 2. Called me ranting about one of the nurses in her assisted living community complaining about having to start paying her loans back again. Mom was like, she borrowed the money, she needs to shut up and pay it back. But God help me if I say anything positive about Trump in her midst....crazy times we are in for sure!

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Christy's avatar

I call it the jab stare. When u start talking “crazy” they just give u that look. I barely talk about anything important anymore bc of that stare. That’s why I love all the ppl here, we might not agree but at least we are open to opposition 💜

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Yes, I stopped talking about serious issues with family, including two of my own children.

I save important discussions with trusted friends and Church family.

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Christy's avatar

It’s sad, if u want to keep a relationship, you can’t talk about what’s really going on.

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VanLife Views's avatar

Can’t agree enough Christy. And yes I’ve seen the jab stare

It’s eeery to say the least

Huge family and all juiced up

This comment section is my solace

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Christy's avatar

Yes. Totally agree!!!

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Marty Kiner's avatar

Many are clueless and yes they vote. I have several in my own circle of family and friends

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Sherry 1's avatar

My entire family is clueless 🙄

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SadieJay's avatar

Your mom, Donna, is the exact opposite of my 96 year old mom. We just talked yesterday. She lives independently in Northern California and told me she is worried with all the fighting aged brown men coming over the border illegally. She said "it is just a matter of time before something really bad happens because of this invasion." Yes! And...where are all the women? I have been asking this for 2 years. All I can do is pray.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Too bad we can't get the 2 of them together! Mom is mentally sharp, physically she is mess though, between arthritis, poor balance, and too many hours sitting watching the Hallmark channel she can't live on her own. Sadly, many of her compatriots at the place she is living now are the opposite. They get around fine, but mentally heading towards the memory care wing. Has a few acquaintances but none who pay a bit of attention to current events. She reads the local lefty rag cover to cover every day. But think a conservative friend or 2 might help move the needle. She will not listen to me as she says I am in the Trump cult.

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SadieJay's avatar

You can gift her a paper copy of The Epoch Times. ♥

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Maybe anonymously gift that Epoch Times subscription as @SadieJay suggests. When you visit, don't say anything for a while. After a couple of months, if it's not on the bottom of the bird cage, when you finally notice a copy 😉, ask, What's this? As if you've never heard of it before. Etc. You might even hear something surprising first. Unless, even if there's no bird, you pick up on the great instant recycling. 😏

Just a thought.

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She has actually gotten occasional free copies in the mail as they probably buy the list of the local rag's subscriber base. She read through the first one, and then next time I was over there, gave it to me and said, I am not reading this 'right wing crap'. But to her credit she didn't throw it away. She saves me the copies she gets though, but tells me she won't read them. I sometimes print off stories and leave them laying in her pile of reading material, and will later ask if she read them. Usually says she has been 'too busy' although she has said she is not getting any shots this year, so a little progress. But the TDS is strong, anything praising him sets her off in a blind rage.

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Oh well. It was a thought. --

My mom won't read anything outside of her regular routine - - print version of legacy city rag. Rigidity possibly attributable to spectrum disorder, high functioning Aspie-ish. Never diagnosed. (Only by me. 😅 I have a sibling there + NPD, neither condition diagnosed except by me. This is a truly nasty person. Thankfully I have friends who also have narcis-sisters and a cousin divorced from a narcissist. They know I'm not exaggerating when I report behaviors.) Mom's 92 so I cut her all the slack she needs. Not worth confrontation at this stage. Some people will never wake up. --

Therefore the theory in woo space, backed up by quantum physics, that speaks to parallel realities. The New Earth existing side by side with the old, current paradigm earth. New Earth people will exist and live with their hearts in the lead, cooperating instead of competing, etc. Those stuck in the old will continue to hold old paradigm thinking which reveres the servant mind above the true self heart master, material gain over the rewards of spirit, etc. The two worlds can view each other, sort of like a movie screen, but not be of each other, even if for example two from the two worlds are 4 feet away from each other in the grocery store. Or even if your cashier with whom you might interact is in the old earth. It's quantum. Haven't quite wrapped my mind around it, or figured out how it works with governments, from local to national. I'm aware and grieving that I have to let go of whatever might bind me to the old. I sure don't want to stay there. Letting go is hard. Especially of children, now adult. I'm lucky I have always viewed them as individuals on their own journeys, never extensions of myself. The grief may never end. I've had a lot of practice at it, though, so know that even if it doesn't go away, it changes. And it changes me. That old adage, the mill grinds hard but very, very fine. --

Don't know if any of the foregoing odd-sounding, quantum-referenced premise has drifted into your world. This author has a unique viewpoint (don't we all?). Sample:

https://devanneykathleen.substack.com/p/the-lure-of-as-if-world --

Way past time for bed. My excuse for running off at the mou--- keyboard. --

Blessings of hard won peace to you.

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Donna in MO's avatar

The As If... post is so true! "The difference in perception between the rabbit-hole dwellers and the normies has gotten to the point where it’s truly daunting to bridge the ‘realities’."

Letting go IS hard, but then so is staying.

And the awake are in places you don't expect. Like my dental hygienist yesterday, or the woman who cut my hair last week. A guy in a waiting area who just moved to MO from CA also last week. Just a few key words and we were comparing rabbit holes.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Amen to finding awakes in unexpected places. My plumber, a couple of random phone-contact customer service reps and a formerly quite blue, almost militant vegan (I'm mostly veggie so no judgement, just ? militancy) millennial I love dearly and have known since she was 16 (now 37) brought 'round under the influence of her husband of 5 years. Yep, the understated lead-in that opens the door wide.

Not giving up, but taking care to take care of self. Riding the bettering, the ascension of the Earth through this traumatic shift, including *sniff, letting go.

☮️

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Donna in MO's avatar

From the (too much) time I spend on the comments here, I do think most fellow C&Cers grieving one kind of loss or another. No one's life is the same as it was in early 2020. Have to wonder, as a whole, how all of this collectively colors our perceptions. If we are all changed, what does that bode for our future? For me, it's not the same kind of grief as when I lost my sister, dad, or father-in-law, all pre covid, where it is total fog of loss initially, then gradually stepping back into the 'moving on' process. But it is that sense that the rug could get pulled out from under me, again, at any time. There is comfort in knowing that there are compatriots who feel the same way, and stopping to smell the roses, so to speak, is a coping strategy. There is still beauty, and humor, in the midst of chaos, but we have to seek it out. Black-pilled is still a choice, I have to remind myself of that.

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Little did I know til about half a dozen years ago that the shock and grief associated with death of a loved one qualifies as trauma. The trauma umbrella is wide. The scamdemic, even if you saw it coming, was a type called collective trauma.

"No one's life is the same as it was in early 2020." Yup. Call it what you like, PTSD, a sanitized, clinical remove from "shell shock" which better describes the mental-emotional and sometimes outward behavioral effect of trauma, or otherwise, we're all experiencing the effects of trauma. Well, except the portion of the population born with or traumatized early enough into lack of empathy; the psychopaths, sociopaths, narcissists, antisocial personality disorder, empathy deficit disorder, histrionic personality disorder, -not normal people. Know any? Personally? They are a different breed. They by-any-means-necessary themselves to whatever they want, not a qualm about it. Sick fks. The types we have at the top of bureaucracies.

Yes, the grief is decidedly different from that of surviving death of a loved one. As befits the nature of the trauma. Being in a car accident is a different kind of trauma, whether one is injured or walks away without a physical scratch. Etc. And different for each as each is different from the other.

I'm learning to be patient with myself. This ain't normal. I had learned, pre global trauma, about being present. This moment, this one, and this one, and this... is so incredibly rich with stimuli it's impossible to take it all in. Living -all in the head- in the (sometimes distorted) past or the (impossible to know) future robs me of the present. Smelling the roses. In a way it's a coping strategy. But in another it's a fulfillment of what life is meant to be. There's no space to get into grief if I'm in the present moment. Not saying good or bad, right or wrong, just is. Also not saying I'm able to pull it off but every so often throughout my days. Those are peaceful moments, though. Pretty delicious. The "what life is meant to be" variety. I at least have a basis of comparison. And then I revisit yesterday or last week or the memory of the trauma. Ugh. ...If you think you're insane, then you can't be insane. Insane people don't know they're insane. And the only way out of Heller's army is if you're insane. Catch-22. Do I sound a little unbalanced?...

Humanity makes it through. Even if I don't. The day I get a gun pointed in my face I'm standing my ground. Deadly force on an unarmed little senior citizen. I wonder if my laughter and derision will tick them off enough so they pull the trigger. Flashing back to the trucker rally in Ottawa and how (mercenary?) forces treated peaceful people. (None dead, just traumatized.) Shoot me. I'll be a poster child for the resistance. This is humorous. Even if I end up dead. Hopefully I'll have been of service in dying so well, which would be a great thing. I'll be gone. Likely unconcerned with the aftermath. 😂😅 A martyr in my own head. Oh I make myself laugh... (Maybe I need a nap...)

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Jay & Delores's avatar

Of course they vote!!! And look where we are today!!! Yes, there was a lot of cheating but there were a lot of idiots out there thinking Biden would bring us all together. Your mom is the typical Biden voter. We have them in our family and they sound just like your mother.

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Donna in MO's avatar

It still amazes me though. I saw almost NO Biden signs ANYWHERE. But yes, I do know some who voted just like you said. Didn't like Biden but hated Trump. This is my ring tone: (81 Million votes my A**) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4XWiKZNMOU My little protest, I let it ring in public ;-)

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

It's just this very "refusing to watch it" that is the root of everything. I'm wondering now, what is this evil spell that's been cast upon our families and friends, that make them turn their backs to us? By what mechanism is "blood is thicker than water" rendered completely upside down?

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SA's avatar

Many voters are clueless and will vote on party lines. But the poll of how many people thought McCarthy was ineffective, but should keep his job - 15%?! This says a lot about how clueless people are and why politicians get away with total failure.

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SB's avatar

I'm sorry, I know you really don't want to do this to your dear mother, but she is exactly the type of person who needs to volunteer to host a border crosser. I'm just sayin'.

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Donna in MO's avatar

She is in one of those assisted living places, not sure they allow roommates, lol. She is 84, many of her neighbors older than that. Have to wonder who will move in all these places when the Boomers and older are gone. A lot fewer Gen Xers in the pipeline....

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SB's avatar

Hmmm maybe that was the lab behind Covid. Kill off all those residents so the border crossers can move in.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Have to wonder. Saw my friend who's a nurse there when visiting mom one day ~2 weeks ago - said three medical emergencies (AL wing has 41 apartments) in one morning.

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