Israel war news roundup; the US's border problem; militias needed; voters side with Gaetz; Mass. exploding with sponsored illegals; NBC's most-ironic headline; Times's most-hilarious headline; more.
Where are all the women? I was at my mom's last week and she had some MSM channel and the talking head was talking about the 'migrants' in NYC. I told her our country is being invaded, this is not what they are showing on TV - somewhere they dredged up footage large family groups coming across the border, complete with closeups of cute children. I said - mom, the majority of the influx is military aged men, NOT families. Her response? I am so disappointed that you have no compassion for these people. Tried to show her the video outside the NYC hotel and she refused to watch it. Question is how many others are clueless? And do they vote?
Unfortunately, as expected. When the USG Communists take military action against the American people, they will do it under the guise of the UN using these "imported" troops. In reality, they are terrorists for the Bolsheviks with blue helmets and they will be used against us by our own government.
Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government. āHenry A. Kissinger
But we did not give up our guns and in fact, more Americans own guns than ever before. It might get ugly but there are a lot of us that will take many of "them" with us if it comes to it.
Are there any patriotic Americans in office? Any Governors??? I know there are some sheriffs and we better get to know them....and they need to know who they can count on.
Sheriffs receive federal $$'s and they will obey whomever pays their retirement. Maybe 3% of all Sheriffs have enough spine to uphold the Constitution...MAYBE. That number is all we need, though. I always enjoy your comments, Phil. I hope my comment doesn't offend you. God bless you!
Not at all. I totally agree with you. I'm thankful there have been a few that have stood their ground and told the Bolsheviks "No!" Even a few in California but especially the sheriff in Arizona.
The responsibility always seems to fall to the few to stand up for, even in the American Revolution. The Second American Revolution (aka the Civil War) failed. It's time for a third American Revolution!
It's just too easy for them, and they can't resist. Law of averages, and all. This is a well-read 'Stack, so I'm surprised there aren't more of them here. That's why that shill Benji 2n's can't stay away...he's a true believer and he loves conflict. I recognize it because I also love conflict.
Oh yes, we are already being "leaked" info that in those border crossings came "Hamas sleeper cells" waiting to wreak carnage on Americans. It will happen. It has to happen, and people have to die so we welcome UN soldiers with open arms.
Problem, reaction, solution. They create the problem, the citizens react by saying "Save us!" and the government brings in THEIR solution - UN troops - which is what they wanted to do along!
TriTorch - NOT as any slight to you, to be sure. I was not certain the word 'find' was the best word for me to use, and felt you deserved credit for having located a very appropriate quote.
I removed the quotes - I hesitated using them to begin with.
Your posts are great, TriTorch - never intended any slight.
Exactly. That's probably want happened in Israel. The Babylonian Rahdinites are using this False Flag to coverup all the deaths from one of the most jabbed countries in the world and of course there's the oil and gas grab in the Mediterranean Sea. If anyone really thinks Israel was caught off guard, they probably also believe the Chinese balloon story.
how can illegals be soldiers of a foreign army? are the UN even a legal organization? I noticed a few months ago, when Mark Stein was still in the UK, how all these young men have the last model iphones and are sending pictures from where they are. To whom? Very interesting. We live in scary interesting times.
The invasion is organized and paid for by the USG in Central America and the young men are bussed from the border in unmarked busses to organization camps, which Abbott conveniently doesn't see, around the country where these men are organized and armed, I'm sure with weapons diverted from the Ukraine war.
Well, resident Peter's did say we would need more than AR15's to go up against his government. That's who we will be at war with, not some other country. But rest assured, resident Peter's already knows they have all the backing they need from the UN, all the 3 letter agencies, and probably most, if not close to all our very own military. Some of those weapons sent to Ukraine are probably holed up somewhere here to be used against us by their illegal alien recruits. I don't trust ANYONE within our governments. If politicians aren't speaking loudly against all the corruption, then they are in it. DeSantis is weak, he throws out tidbits of crumbs to appear he is on it, but does nothing. MTG, Kari Lake, they are vocal as he!! about what's going on. There are others, too, but We the People need to start getting vocal, more vocal and active within our communities. If we don't, we are done and no longer free.
It was important to get all that war materiel to a place where it will be safe. Someone will want to use it when our government is no longer a consideration.
wow! But then why does he have to come from the hole in the border? And since when does the UN have an active military? Unless they mean Blue Helmet Peacekeepers, in which case they should be able to get him a visa to come in by plane. What is the DHS doing about this?
I'm getting a little annoyed at this substack which I otherwise love. Is Jeff seriously this clueless? These are all deliberate orchestrations by one group of decision-makers and all leading up to exactly what you are reporting. He must know. Why isn't he talking about it?
Libs always bring up the families we must support. You open your houses first, but if that was next door to me, Iād make sure they noticed the muzzle of a firearm legally owned. This whole thing isnāt āWagon Trainā (oops, aged me there) but a train of subversives on buses
Poland opened their houses and later faced all kinds of lawsuits,( trying to get them to move out, or repair damages, or for crimes they have done) from the illegals and illegals won. We do not want to go down that road of being used.
Having rental property or unoccupied property is very precarious these days. Squatters have more rights than property owners, especially in liberal leaning areas. It's been a problem for a while now.
I laugh at the libbies, white and of color, who are now realizing they are not important and the government and their party don't care. So all the "hate has no home here" virtue signaling loons need to buck up and let the migrants stay in their homes. Otherwise they are raycist, science deniers just like me. Can't have that now. šš
it is unbelievable that some states allow voting without showing identification. When I first read this I thought they were mistaken. I live in GA and here there is quite a decent control for voting. Driver's licence, and that is only given to US citizens and green card holders, comparing your name and signature and picture... and then, you can vote. One thing, off and no, refused.
My adult disabled daughter prints her signature. She voted by mail in 2020. We got a phone call after she mailed in her vote concerned about signature. We had to go into office and she had to redo her vote and show ID. At least the Florida panhandle is doing something right....at least once.
My state, NC, is finally requiring ID to vote next year, first time. Legislature voted it in years ago and then the libs took it to court and kept it in court fighting it for years, claiming discrimination, of course, but we prevailed, courts said ID to vote is NOT discrimination.
oh my I had no idea. Never voted anywhere but here in GA and thought all states had the same system! Thinking this was a US thing, until about a year ago, I read that statement from CA where no identification is required. No wonder they get all kinds of people shipped in to vote ! Thanks SB, for updating me!
Commiefornia resident here. Back in the day, you'd have to show ID to vote. That was changed a few years back. Illegals can get drivers licenses and now Gruesome Newsom has declared all mail-in ballots are the way to go. Gee...just when you think the corruption and cheating couldn't get any worse.
Born and raised here...and it's not the state I remember. I can't wait to flee and move to America.
God forbid that man ever becomes president. We need to move to Middle America then. All illegals in, Americans out... like many already fled to Mexico and abroad. So sad. Let me know if you were to move here LOL
Ingrid, it probably was a 'U.S. thing,' until it wasn't, thanks to the communist takeover of some state governments. When I registered to vote in Florida, I had to show a birth certificate - one with the raised stamp on it, not a photocopy. When I voted, I had to physically sign a register, and they compared that signature to the one on file.
that is how it should be! I registered when they knew very well I was a citizen because they just allowed me LOL. At least there are a few more states where govt tries to do along the rules!
I was shocked when we moved to WA state almost 20 years ago and received a ballot in the mail to fill out and mail back inā¦..no Iād required. My children received them once they got their drivers license. They are grown and have moved away. Register and vote in other states yet every year still get WA ballots mailed to our home. You canāt tell me there isnāt major fraud going on.
No ID needed in MN...all you need to register to vote (same day registration) is someone to vouch for you that you live here (maybe an ID too, but not necessarily a MN ID)....college kids are encouraged to vote so despite not being MN residents, they can and Iām sure do, impact our elections a ton...oh, and we just passed some drivers license for all bill, so now illegals will have MN IDās for that same day registration
not good. I am going to make a list of the states where only americans can vote! this is unheard of, and totally not right. Does not happen in Europe, but political parties there have found other ways around the vote, to corrupt the government (several non-majority parties gluing together to beat the larger party etc)
Oh gosh no, IDK if anyone has a list but my understanding is that not many states require voter ID. I was the same shocked as you in reverse when I saw GA requires it.
I live in CA and have never had to show any type of identification when voting. Nor to register to vote. Have been a registered voter and voting for 51 years in CA.
Lupita, that's wild! My dad took me to vote when I was 18....1984- I voted for Reagan. I distinctly remember showing my ID and signing my name in the book. It was a honor and privilege to do that, with my dad beside me.
In 2023 I can't understand the "discrimination of requiring ID to vote". You go to your doctor they ask for ID, go to pick up at Target they ask for ID, where is the discrimination?
SB - However, the NC ID law has so many loopholes in it. In lieu of i.d. prospective voters with no i.d. can checkmark various waivers along the lines of "applied for i.d. but it's in the mail" or "religious exemption" - there are about 7 or 8 equally fluid excuses for not providing an i.d. at the time of voting.
Yet Georgia was one of the states with the most egregious fraud and cheating, a lot of it caught on camera! Was anyone prosecuted? I donāt trust Kemp at all.
Please God, let Trumpās attorneys present the video footage in his trial in Atlanta. I live in Georgia too. Why did the vote counting stop for 3 hours on election night??? You know why.....
not to be trusted but did a fairly good job as gov. Kept from spending through the roof. Wonder who will be next. Difference in fraud might be between big city and small places like where I live (about 2500 in our small place, about 15000 or so in next place over)
In Illinois, as a poll watcher which you really should volunteer to do choose your own place and hours, we have registration on the DAY, if they show ID that matches a physical address with a bill mailed to them in the past six? months then they can vote. Mail in voters are supposedly denied. If the system goes down, which it did several times and once for over an hour, besides ALL the time it took to REGISTER ALL THE NEW VOTERS in this BIG UNIVERSITY town then who knows what's happening. Then there's the election judges that lie and cheat. I stopped one once. š Twenty first century and we are Rome. Who knew?
I do not like the machine voting at all. Back in Belgium 20 years ago it was still all on paper, check before you vote etc. No messing there. Voting is obligatory when you are a belgian citizen and immigrants had to pay extra if they wanted voting rights. But now my family says it is all machine too. No idea if the other laws changed, but non voters are no longer emprisoned. Probably not even persecuted.
When I went last time the machine here in small town GA went down twice while I was in there (about 15 minutes). So there is a big no-no. Back to paper voting and indeed, lots of checkers from both sides. I think new voters have to register at least a few months before voting. Got my citizenship in August and was urged to register right there and then, which I did.
Would they not have to have credentials then? I have never seen mail-in voting documents. You are probably right. With an out-of-state drivers licence, I wonder what GA officials do.
Green card holders are NOT citizens. If they are allowed to have driver's licenses, are they marked as non-citizens? I honestly don't know much about who is given a "green card." I'm in CA... and Grabin Newssolini is all about this sort of criminality.
I believe we MUST get someone in the Oval Office in 2024, who will begin and follow through with a mass round up and deportation. It seems that might be our only way to be safe in our own country.
Naturally, many will evade such an action. But huge numbers would be run out... and those remaining would likely be less confrontive.
Grabin Newssolini Hahahaha ! Kathryn that is the first laugh of my day.. What a great find.
I don't know if this is the difference, but before I became a citizen my driver's licence number was my social security number. I was advized to go for a new driver's licence that did not show my ss number. But this might just be random. It is making me angry to see how much trouble I had to go through to become legal (refused once, paperwork redone, then office 'misplaced' my test and had to wait more than a year from test to ceremony, for some present it took only 6 weeks) and moneywise - cross the border cost nothing - doing all and everything including 2 sleepover since I had to be there so early - almost 3000 $
Dopey app won't let me like your reply to MY reply. Keeps directing me to create an account...
If I didn't have an account, how did I reply to you? How have I managed to figuratively 'run my mouth' in comments? Huh?
When a mobile phone app has me questioning my mental acuity (when my family has never succeeded) I reckon some "kudos" are in order. Nevertheless, I'm old and do not want to waste valuable time 'arguing' with my phone.
thanks for letting me know I am not the only one whose electronics seem to run amock ! Keep getting that message, or "for your safety we sent you a link" and then sometimes no link comes..
i did not say the whole system is so great. i said that in our small town it is good. I have no idea how it is anywhere else in GA. but all off GA requires paperwork, contrary to several other states.
that is right. you can get a driver's licence on a green card, but you cannot vote. I have not tried to vote when on green card, so I don't know how close they watch for that. Got citizenship in 2012
Washington Governor Inslee decreed (no one voted on it) that a ballot would be mailed to every address where a driver's license was given. Illegals can get drivers licenses. They also can have addresses. It is said that illegals know they cannot vote, and know the penalty for voting, but I wonder.
sounds like putting the cat there with the milk. I didn't know illegals could get DL in Washington too. Need to read up on the States again after all these years!
We are the opposite. Our successful 40 something kids are the ones too busy to watch the news, but they swallow hook, line and sinker, everything that comes across their phones which is still msm propaganda.
I am a 41 year old Constitutional Conservative who saw through the psyop more than three years agoā¦it is my 82 and 84 year old parents who swallowed every lie MSM told, took 5 shots of the mRNA bioweapon, and ignore every study that I send them. Dad is dying of cancer from the shot, and Mom is definitely falling to Dementia.
They do recognize how evil our Government is, but somehow they just canāt transpose that over to the clot shots, or all the psyops since.
Same! Turbo - cancer resulting in death, one member had a stroke same day as their booster was administered, healthy medical profession adults in the family who are now having heart and breathing issues, but eat organic and healthy, workout daily--ALL "up to date" on their š..... but they just can't fathom what's causing their health issues.
Iām sorry Bingham. I am in your shoes. I nevwr bought it. Iām just so thankful my parents donāt either and are conservative. I just sometimes canāt believe it because my dad is a vietnam vet.
It is like a death march is organized by 'the government' and the people who show up for embarkation think they are going on an all expense paid 14 day cruise trip of the Mediterranean cruise. And the people are actually happy!
And so, the government kills and maims its own alleged 'citizens' while at the same time it is killing off the country. In all of this, the government essentially propagandizes and incentivizes people to exterminate themselves ... and VOLUNTARILY.
IMO these people are not advanced enough in their consciousness to see through the propaganda. It has nothing to do with intelligence. Humanity has the opportunity to ascend in our evolution and escape Satan's world. Some will move forward and others will most likely get another chance next go round.
so sorry Rosemarie - happens on both ends here. Father and older friends AND younger cousins. I have only 4 legged children and thankfully they do not have iphones
I have one of each, 28 and 30. One is a Trump supporter, the other voted for some socialist 3rd party candidate in 2020. Makes for interesting family gatherings.
Same here. My kids think they know it all because they arenāt caught up in news 24/7, but they are more dependent on the msm because they lack discernment and a willingness to go against the flow.
Poor cats of all ages and healthā- are stuck in shelters, āCue āIN THE ARMS of an ANGELā, so a lady gets 4 out of the terrible shelter, moves them into her home and acclimates them. Itās precious and kind. Weeks later, she gets 6 more, then 7 more, then one she got has 9 kittens, then she gets several
more. She canāt help herself, sheās so compassionate; she gets a dozen more. Everything is great except she canāt really give each of them attention, several are fighting among themselves,
she lugs home loads of cat food and is starting not to bother with litter and vets. Sooner or later, she has 66 cats, her entire home is one big litter box. sans litter, food has to be supplemented with cats killing birds. Several have dragged baby rabbits and even snakes into her home. There are so many cats in her bed, she feels guilty knocking them off to sleep so sheās taken to sleeping in a chair. The lady has a chronic cough due to the dander and litter. Her home, clothing & hair smells like ammonia and poop. Her family has become deeply
concerned. The cats are wild and discontented but she compassionate.
Same. One was a shelter cat, the other 2 were dumped, I blame the catnip plants in our yard. Lost one last year who ran away from his owner after a divorce 10 years ago. She would come and get him and he kept running away and she finally asked us to just keep him.
š I hear ya. We had 3 cats, 3 kids, 2 dogs and 3 horses for years. My daughters had rabbits, too. We saved 3 from a bunch of guys living in trailers and sheds with orange cords going all over from a main house. The sign said, āRABBIāS for SELL!ā ā”ļø I HAD to see for myself whether rabbis were in fact, being sold. š The rabbits were stacked on top of one another in cages like 4/6 cages high, NO water, no feed, 90Ā°, a dozen rabbit skins hanging on a clothesline. Sadly our cats and a hawk got them, but their lives were magical for weeks after our compassionate rescue. Turns out, hawks are quicker than kids running inside to go potty and, to continue the previous analogy, cats arenāt always as kind and deserving of compassion as they appear. (Ours KNEW we loved those poor rabbits!) I dare say the same goes for illegals.
My youngest sister had a rabbit as a kid, and a stray dog jumped the backyard fence and got it. Very traumatic for her, she was 8 and saw it out the window. As an adult she fostered them as part of a rescue society for many years. They are cute, but are destructive, they chew on anything they can if you keep them indoors. Hard pass for me. And yes, cats and wild rabbits are not a great mix. I got a hysterical call from my kids when they were teenagers, they let one of our cats in not realizing he had a baby rabbit in his mouth, bleeding out. Supposedly cats bring us their kills as they think we are incompetent hunters and need help :-)
Yep, weāve had numerous squealing baby rabbits and other creatures dragged in to us by our cats. We sealed our cat door long ago (cat doors seem like a grand idea. Nope.) When we go out of town, the superior hunters leave one squirrel on each and every welcome mat by each and every door to the
home as if to say, āPlease come home and never leave again. We promise we will bring more vittles.ā
Weāve had 3 indoor rabbits, one of whom we named iHop (how cute is that?) and they rarely chewed anything at all BUT one did make a hole under our little guest bed and tinkled up there a good bit. We never knew till we went to
move. They had loads of sticks and wicker things we bought him to chew which no doubt helped and they had an entire guest room and tunnel to two of our kidsā rooms. Overall, they were better pets than a few of the cats weāve had over the years and far better than the Cairn Terriorāaka Cairn Terror. HE dug more holes in my flower beds and chewed up furniture legs like they were sticks.
Even we, in a rural Iowan small town, have had at least 2 bus loads of all healthy and fit looking men dropped off in our community. I personally witnessed one. They all went into our local grocery store from their bus. A new hotel is being built here as for some reason our two, that have never been full for all these years, isnāt enough for a town of 3000 with no attractions or unique events. Itās getting hard not to be fearful. I always see at least a dozen men buying groceries together each time I go to either of the stores we have- and I donāt go very often. A 100% encounter rate of that sort is not good. And itās not confined to our town, itās going on in all the small communities here, in addition to the somewhat larger ones. Do you think they are purposefully infiltrating the rural communities that are staunchly conservative? This started a year and a half ago.
WOW! That is scary. I am in a red turning purple suburb and say the same thing about the breakneck pace at which apartment buildings are going up all over my city as well as the larger metro. Where are the people who are going to live in these places going to come from?! Our suburb has been growing but the greater Metro has seen very modest growth the last decade, although I do know 3 CA refugees (all conservatives fortunately) who have moved here to escape that madness. So far not seeing any evidence like yours, although I am staying away from the larger city as much as possible due to big increases in crime. My daughter in law was grazed by a bullet while driving home from an entertainment district just last week, granted it was 1:00 AM but she and her friends have no idea where it came from. She was driving, bullet grazed her arm and hit her friend in the passenger seat's middle finger, surgeons couldn't save it, and had to amputate. Thank God it was not worse, but scary nonetheless.
Terrible story Donna. I'm sure those girls were traumatized. It seems like the illegals are infiltrating every nook and cranny of the continent. We obviously can not physically do much as individuals but what we can do is stay out of fear and do the things that bring joy to our lives. Raising our individual vibration by being in nature and staying away from fear promoting media of all kinds is helpful. Faith that goodness and love wins is a mantra to keep in mind.
Yes I think they would likely target small towns with illegals. They are targeting small towns with tranny drag shows. We have family in Texas that are witness to this.
I really hate the lack of compassion pseudo argument when we all know the women and children coming in are just going to be abused and exploited ā¹ļø
All about the virtue signaling. I am sure the moral superiority she FEELS trumps any truth that leaks out. I am coming around to thinking that the thing that ties all these sheep together is their propensity to lead with emotion as their primary guide. I get that we all get caught in that trap from time to time, but it's why traditional wisdom is to 'sleep on it' before making a big decision. Emotion clouds critical thought.
She is in one of those retirement communities that are popping up like mushrooms all over our city and the greater KC metro. I look at the demographics - yes there is a huge influx of boomers heading into these places, mom was on a waiting list for months. But what happens to all of these places in 10-15 years? New landing spots for the 'unhoused' or 'the migrants'?
I keep telling my city council people the same thing. They say 'good point' and then vote for incentives for yet another one....SMDH. (And most of them are 10 or more years younger than me and so will have more time to deal with it.)
My Mom was in one of those, and my SIL runs one - both high-end. Biggest problem? Finding people to work there. Most employees not doing admin work are (legal) immigrants. The women from the islands (trinidad, haiti, etc) were lovely and caring. Few workers from the local black population (Philly). FWIW.
Yes, same with mom's place, although the help they can get are all white or black English speaking people. Had a lot of college students over the Summer but have struggled to replace them now that school is back in session. They've managed to keep CNA and nursing positions staffed (never had a jab requirement, I am friends with one of the nurses who started working there when the hospital she was at put a jab mandate in place), but dining room not unusual to wait 30+ minutes for her food as dining room is perpetually short staffed. When she was in a NH for rehab late last year though, there were a number of Caribbean immigrants on staff there, though, and they were much better than the non-immigrant staff, who were lazy and had an attitude.
It's frustrating as she is so wedded to the idea that she is a D; when actually many of her views are completely at odds with today's D party. She is pro-life, pro police, and fights her doc over taking any new RX drugs as she 'doesn't trust pharmaceutical companies'. But she got the first 2 shots!?! Thank goodness her PCP told her not to get any more since she had a lot of skin reactions after the first 2. Called me ranting about one of the nurses in her assisted living community complaining about having to start paying her loans back again. Mom was like, she borrowed the money, she needs to shut up and pay it back. But God help me if I say anything positive about Trump in her midst....crazy times we are in for sure!
I call it the jab stare. When u start talking ācrazyā they just give u that look. I barely talk about anything important anymore bc of that stare. Thatās why I love all the ppl here, we might not agree but at least we are open to opposition š
Your mom, Donna, is the exact opposite of my 96 year old mom. We just talked yesterday. She lives independently in Northern California and told me she is worried with all the fighting aged brown men coming over the border illegally. She said "it is just a matter of time before something really bad happens because of this invasion." Yes! And...where are all the women? I have been asking this for 2 years. All I can do is pray.
Too bad we can't get the 2 of them together! Mom is mentally sharp, physically she is mess though, between arthritis, poor balance, and too many hours sitting watching the Hallmark channel she can't live on her own. Sadly, many of her compatriots at the place she is living now are the opposite. They get around fine, but mentally heading towards the memory care wing. Has a few acquaintances but none who pay a bit of attention to current events. She reads the local lefty rag cover to cover every day. But think a conservative friend or 2 might help move the needle. She will not listen to me as she says I am in the Trump cult.
Maybe anonymously gift that Epoch Times subscription as @SadieJay suggests. When you visit, don't say anything for a while. After a couple of months, if it's not on the bottom of the bird cage, when you finally notice a copy š, ask, What's this? As if you've never heard of it before. Etc. You might even hear something surprising first. Unless, even if there's no bird, you pick up on the great instant recycling. š
She has actually gotten occasional free copies in the mail as they probably buy the list of the local rag's subscriber base. She read through the first one, and then next time I was over there, gave it to me and said, I am not reading this 'right wing crap'. But to her credit she didn't throw it away. She saves me the copies she gets though, but tells me she won't read them. I sometimes print off stories and leave them laying in her pile of reading material, and will later ask if she read them. Usually says she has been 'too busy' although she has said she is not getting any shots this year, so a little progress. But the TDS is strong, anything praising him sets her off in a blind rage.
My mom won't read anything outside of her regular routine - - print version of legacy city rag. Rigidity possibly attributable to spectrum disorder, high functioning Aspie-ish. Never diagnosed. (Only by me. š I have a sibling there + NPD, neither condition diagnosed except by me. This is a truly nasty person. Thankfully I have friends who also have narcis-sisters and a cousin divorced from a narcissist. They know I'm not exaggerating when I report behaviors.) Mom's 92 so I cut her all the slack she needs. Not worth confrontation at this stage. Some people will never wake up. --
Therefore the theory in woo space, backed up by quantum physics, that speaks to parallel realities. The New Earth existing side by side with the old, current paradigm earth. New Earth people will exist and live with their hearts in the lead, cooperating instead of competing, etc. Those stuck in the old will continue to hold old paradigm thinking which reveres the servant mind above the true self heart master, material gain over the rewards of spirit, etc. The two worlds can view each other, sort of like a movie screen, but not be of each other, even if for example two from the two worlds are 4 feet away from each other in the grocery store. Or even if your cashier with whom you might interact is in the old earth. It's quantum. Haven't quite wrapped my mind around it, or figured out how it works with governments, from local to national. I'm aware and grieving that I have to let go of whatever might bind me to the old. I sure don't want to stay there. Letting go is hard. Especially of children, now adult. I'm lucky I have always viewed them as individuals on their own journeys, never extensions of myself. The grief may never end. I've had a lot of practice at it, though, so know that even if it doesn't go away, it changes. And it changes me. That old adage, the mill grinds hard but very, very fine. --
Don't know if any of the foregoing odd-sounding, quantum-referenced premise has drifted into your world. This author has a unique viewpoint (don't we all?). Sample:
The As If... post is so true! "The difference in perception between the rabbit-hole dwellers and the normies has gotten to the point where itās truly daunting to bridge the ārealitiesā."
Letting go IS hard, but then so is staying.
And the awake are in places you don't expect. Like my dental hygienist yesterday, or the woman who cut my hair last week. A guy in a waiting area who just moved to MO from CA also last week. Just a few key words and we were comparing rabbit holes.
Amen to finding awakes in unexpected places. My plumber, a couple of random phone-contact customer service reps and a formerly quite blue, almost militant vegan (I'm mostly veggie so no judgement, just ? militancy) millennial I love dearly and have known since she was 16 (now 37) brought 'round under the influence of her husband of 5 years. Yep, the understated lead-in that opens the door wide.
Not giving up, but taking care to take care of self. Riding the bettering, the ascension of the Earth through this traumatic shift, including *sniff, letting go.
From the (too much) time I spend on the comments here, I do think most fellow C&Cers grieving one kind of loss or another. No one's life is the same as it was in early 2020. Have to wonder, as a whole, how all of this collectively colors our perceptions. If we are all changed, what does that bode for our future? For me, it's not the same kind of grief as when I lost my sister, dad, or father-in-law, all pre covid, where it is total fog of loss initially, then gradually stepping back into the 'moving on' process. But it is that sense that the rug could get pulled out from under me, again, at any time. There is comfort in knowing that there are compatriots who feel the same way, and stopping to smell the roses, so to speak, is a coping strategy. There is still beauty, and humor, in the midst of chaos, but we have to seek it out. Black-pilled is still a choice, I have to remind myself of that.
Little did I know til about half a dozen years ago that the shock and grief associated with death of a loved one qualifies as trauma. The trauma umbrella is wide. The scamdemic, even if you saw it coming, was a type called collective trauma.
"No one's life is the same as it was in early 2020." Yup. Call it what you like, PTSD, a sanitized, clinical remove from "shell shock" which better describes the mental-emotional and sometimes outward behavioral effect of trauma, or otherwise, we're all experiencing the effects of trauma. Well, except the portion of the population born with or traumatized early enough into lack of empathy; the psychopaths, sociopaths, narcissists, antisocial personality disorder, empathy deficit disorder, histrionic personality disorder, -not normal people. Know any? Personally? They are a different breed. They by-any-means-necessary themselves to whatever they want, not a qualm about it. Sick fks. The types we have at the top of bureaucracies.
Yes, the grief is decidedly different from that of surviving death of a loved one. As befits the nature of the trauma. Being in a car accident is a different kind of trauma, whether one is injured or walks away without a physical scratch. Etc. And different for each as each is different from the other.
I'm learning to be patient with myself. This ain't normal. I had learned, pre global trauma, about being present. This moment, this one, and this one, and this... is so incredibly rich with stimuli it's impossible to take it all in. Living -all in the head- in the (sometimes distorted) past or the (impossible to know) future robs me of the present. Smelling the roses. In a way it's a coping strategy. But in another it's a fulfillment of what life is meant to be. There's no space to get into grief if I'm in the present moment. Not saying good or bad, right or wrong, just is. Also not saying I'm able to pull it off but every so often throughout my days. Those are peaceful moments, though. Pretty delicious. The "what life is meant to be" variety. I at least have a basis of comparison. And then I revisit yesterday or last week or the memory of the trauma. Ugh. ...If you think you're insane, then you can't be insane. Insane people don't know they're insane. And the only way out of Heller's army is if you're insane. Catch-22. Do I sound a little unbalanced?...
Humanity makes it through. Even if I don't. The day I get a gun pointed in my face I'm standing my ground. Deadly force on an unarmed little senior citizen. I wonder if my laughter and derision will tick them off enough so they pull the trigger. Flashing back to the trucker rally in Ottawa and how (mercenary?) forces treated peaceful people. (None dead, just traumatized.) Shoot me. I'll be a poster child for the resistance. This is humorous. Even if I end up dead. Hopefully I'll have been of service in dying so well, which would be a great thing. I'll be gone. Likely unconcerned with the aftermath. šš A martyr in my own head. Oh I make myself laugh... (Maybe I need a nap...)
Of course they vote!!! And look where we are today!!! Yes, there was a lot of cheating but there were a lot of idiots out there thinking Biden would bring us all together. Your mom is the typical Biden voter. We have them in our family and they sound just like your mother.
It still amazes me though. I saw almost NO Biden signs ANYWHERE. But yes, I do know some who voted just like you said. Didn't like Biden but hated Trump. This is my ring tone: (81 Million votes my A**) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4XWiKZNMOU My little protest, I let it ring in public ;-)
It's just this very "refusing to watch it" that is the root of everything. I'm wondering now, what is this evil spell that's been cast upon our families and friends, that make them turn their backs to us? By what mechanism is "blood is thicker than water" rendered completely upside down?
Many voters are clueless and will vote on party lines. But the poll of how many people thought McCarthy was ineffective, but should keep his job - 15%?! This says a lot about how clueless people are and why politicians get away with total failure.
I'm sorry, I know you really don't want to do this to your dear mother, but she is exactly the type of person who needs to volunteer to host a border crosser. I'm just sayin'.
She is in one of those assisted living places, not sure they allow roommates, lol. She is 84, many of her neighbors older than that. Have to wonder who will move in all these places when the Boomers and older are gone. A lot fewer Gen Xers in the pipeline....
Have to wonder. Saw my friend who's a nurse there when visiting mom one day ~2 weeks ago - said three medical emergencies (AL wing has 41 apartments) in one morning.
Now concerning the times and the seasons, brothers, you have no need of anything to be written to you. For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. While they are saying, āPeace and safety!ā then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman who is pregnant, and they will never escape. But you, brothers, are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief, for you are all sons of light and sons of day. We are not of night nor of darkness; so then let us not sleep as others do, but let us be awake and sober. For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. But since we are of the day, let us be sober, having put on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet, the hope of salvation. For God has not appointed us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, so that whether we are awake or asleep, we will live together with Him. Therefore, comfort one another and build up one another, just as you also are doing.
āThe nations have sunk in the pit that they made; in the net that they hid, their own foot has been caught. The Lord has made himself known; he has executed judgment; the wicked are snared in the work of their own hands. Higgaion. Selahā
Makes me so happy that you kept going on to the ā....but you are NOT in darkness that they overtake YOU like a thief, for YOU are all sons of light, but you are sons of day!!!!!ā (Exclamation points mine)
I don't get all these "CHRISTIANS" falling over themselves to call jews "brothers" and support them when in reality they DENY JESUS CHRIST...talk about COGNITIVE DISSONANCE!
My thoughts: Thessalonians was written to the church at Thessalonica, therefore addressed to brothers in the Christian faith. A Jew can be a Christian, but not every Jew is a Christian. As for the state of Israel, I am not a Bible or prophecy scholar who can explain or address the issue of āsupporting Israelā and if that is the same as āpraying for the peace of Jerusalemā as we are instructed to do. I just know that GOD knows, and will sort it all out. He knows whose hearts are His. (I wrote a little on this yesterday.) I also know that evil is evil and these horrific attacks against Israel are evil. I am praying that the evil ones fall prey to their own wickedness. May the Lord show Himself mighty, shield the innocent, and accomplish His purpose, in Jesusā name.
1 and 2 Timothy were also written about the church in Thessalonica - specifically addressing the Thessalonian Heresy, a set of false beliefs emanating from pulpits in that city which bear a strong resemblance to today's Prosperity Gospel heresy.
Nice answer Janice. I like to refer to what Jesus saidā¦
āJesus said to them, āHave you never read in the Scriptures: āāThe stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; this was the Lordās doing, and it is marvelous in our eyesā? Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits.ā
āas it is written, āBehold, I am laying in Zion a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense; and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.āā
āāRomansā¬ ā9ā¬:ā33ā¬ āESVā¬ā¬
Andā¦
āBut it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but āThrough Isaac shall your offspring be named.ā This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring.ā
The Jews rejected Jesus and unless they are Messianic Jews, still do. As to how the nation of Israel plays into Godās plan for the world - I donāt know. It seems that civilization started in that area and it may well end there. But as for the āChosen peopleā, thereās thisā¦
They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do. But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.ā
Of course a Jew can be a Christian. All of Christās apostles were Jewish. Anyone who trusts in his own heart that Jesus is Lord and that God raised Him from the dead can become a Christian. Anyone.
Absolutely. Jews by heritage are descendants of Jacob, whom God renamed Israel. Of course, a person of non-Jewish genealogy can accept the Jewish faith and become a spiritual Jew. When a Jewish person becomes a believer in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, that person is called a Messianic or completed Jew. They are trusting Jesus, not their adherence to the Mosaic law
Or their geneology or anything else, for their salvation.
So Messianic Jews are still Jews because of their ancestry? So a Messianic Jew can abjure the Mosaic law, including circumcision, and still be a Jew? And do Jews consider Messianic Jews to still be Jews?
I am not trying to be quarrelsome, I am genuinely puzzled.
The Jews are Godās chosen people, and He made a covenant with them long ago that will never be broken, despite their actions. (Since Jesus, all Christians are in covenant with God.) God also said that He would bless those who bless Israel and condemn those who condemn Israel. Godās Words are everlasting.
"Since Jesus, all Christians are in covenant with God": EXACTLY. We of faith have been grafted into the vine of Abraham's Israel. We are as "chosen" now as were the early patriarchs.
Despite their actions? So God is ok with anything a Jew does? You might want to clarify. He has preserved a remnant of believing Jews. The rest will perish along with all who reject Christ. But He may graft them back in, THROUGH FAITH in Messiah, at the end of the age.
You are exactly right. God will (and has) punished those who disobey Him. But, His covenant with Abraham ensures that the Jewish people will always be a part of His plan. Bible prophecy is centered on Israel and the Jewish people.
Indeed: "If at any time I declare of a nation that I will prosper them and build them up, and then they turn from righteousness and do evil in my sight, then I will turn away from the good I had promised to do for them, says the LORD". (Quotation from memory, but I got the gist of it.)
All I am going to say is you can call a place something but that doesn't mean it is the real thing. I can live in a town called Heaven but it isn't The Heaven. Same with Israel. What is called Israel today is a construct from 1949 and several nations. Doesn't mean it is The Israel from the Bible.
"Despite their actions"? God fulfilled His covenant when He sent His Son to shed His blood for their sins. This was the Promise of the Covenant. Apostate Israel broke the covenant when they rejected the Messiah. They did not have a "get out of jail free card" for breaking the covenant with God. God spoke to the consequences of this many times in the OT prophets and Jesus and the apostles spoke to this many times in the NT and warned the believing, faithful Israelis of what was coming, warning them when they should flee Jerusalem. John's vision in Revelation is devoted to this. In Exodus, the generation that rebelled against God and was not allowed to enter the promise land prefigures this. Only the new generation was allowed to enter.
Jesus Christ, the long anticipated Messiah, established the New Covenant through his life, death and resurrection thus closing out and replacing the Old Covenant. This involved a change in who is Israel for now the priesthood is expanded to all believers to include everyone who accepted the Messiah, Jew and Gentile alike. This is the new Israel. And indeed, God will fulfill all His promises to Israel. The Jews who did not accept the coming of Jesus Christ are not a part of Israel. With the coming of the Messiah and His work on the cross shedding His blood for all, the Old Covenant was closed out and God's judgement was poured out on apostate Jerusalem.
Daniel 9:26-27 prophesies the coming of the armies to destroy Jerusalem and the Temple. The parallel passage to Matt 24 and Daniel 9 is Luke 21:20-22 which makes clear the meaning of Matt and Daniel. This is the "abomination of desolation" and, as Luke explains, was to be the armed invasion of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple as God brings the Old Covenant to a close. In 68 AD, the Edomites, the age long enemies of Israel, surrounded and invaded the city and slaughtered 8,500 people in the Temple. In the words of Josephus, this was "the beginning of the destruction of the city. From this very day may be dated the overthrow of her wall and the ruin of her affairs." These are "the days of vengeance that all things which are written (in the OT) may be fulfilled" Luke 21:22.
This was the closing out of the Old Covenant with God's wrath poured out on apostate Israel and the establishment of the New Covenant in Christ's shed blood. Jesus said in Matt 24:21, "For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, NOR EVER SHALL BE." The Great Tribulation refers to the destruction of Temple in that generation alone (70 AD), an absolutely unique event in history never to be repeated.
To quote Bill Murray in Stripes, "I want to party with you, cowboy".
I don't agree with your interpretation but recognize it's very well summarized and correctly reflects the Church stance through most of history. The beauty of it though is that it doesn't matter! We agree on the essentials and are saved by the Blood of the Lamb.
There is a real danger in elevating non-essential doctrines in importance as it causes needless division within the Body. Plus the some of the stuff end time dispensationalists are saying sounds bloodthirsty and geocidal to me. I can't square that with the rest of Christ's ministry.
You know your doctrine though, and praise God for it.
Thanks Jeff. Don't know how much doctrine I know but I like to think I know enough (when is it ever enough?) of Scripture to be able to put 2 and 2 together. In my early days as a Bible student I was attending a small conservative Reformed congregation and, being a neophyte, I was assigned to read a book by a Reformed scholar and give a review. When I presented my review and evaluation, the elders were amazed at my insights. It appeared to me that certain aspects of the author's presentation were truncated leaving holes in the Biblical narrative especially in regard to the function of the Holy Spirit in empowering the body of Christ. That was over 40 years ago. Frankly, I'm amazed I can still remember that.
I agree with you that regardless of our Scriptural knowledge or lack thereof, we are all brothers and sisters in Christ, saved by God's Grace. In terms of personal salvation, that is all that matters. But Christianity is so much more than personal salvation, which is our starting point. The body of Christ is commissioned to apply the Word of God to all areas of life and, by the power of the Holy Spirit, bring restoration, healing and salvation to all of mankind and all that man does. Some call it the Great Commission. I call it the marching orders of the King.
One of the practical problems (as opposed to theological) of premil eschatology I see is the tendency to reduce the Christian experience to personal salvation alone. The believer sits in the pew each Sunday worshiping God with the rest of the congregation and then goes into the other six days of the week with no vision of applying the Word of God to the rest of life. The reason for this is that his/her eschatology tells him that the church is destined to be defeated this side of the Rapture and that, until Christ RETURNS, Satan is going to win this war for world. As evil gains the upper hand and the world descends into debauchery and chaos, we must hold out sitting in our pew hoping that Christ returns before they come to take us to the camps. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Is this the victory that Christ won on the Cross? Is this the power of the Holy Spirit which inhabits the body of Christ? Unable to defeat to the power of Satan? Really? In His incarnation, the Son of God confronted Satan and defeated him, fulfilled all of God's Law and gave His life as a sacrifice to cover the sins of all who would have faith in Him. He then ascended into heaven to sit on the throne at the right hand of God thus casting Satan out of heaven who fell like lightening. In Luke 10:18-19, Jesus said, "I saw Satan fall like lightening from heaven. Behold, I give you the AUTHORITY to trample on serpents and scorpions and over ALL the power of the enemy..." He doesn't say some authority! Jesus said ALL authority over ALL the power of the enemy. It doesn't get any clearer than that.
When Jesus ascended, He sent the Holy Spirit to inhabit His body on earth, the church militant. How can Evil resist and overcome the Holy Spirit of God? We have to get those thoughts out of our mouth and out of our head. The modern church today is suffering from severe cognitive dissonance. While proclaiming the power of God unto salvation, we at same time believe in a defeatist eschatology of an impotent God unable to defeat evil in history. We have to ask ourselves where is our real faith? Then we have to go back to Scripture and ask where did we go wrong?
Remember that the Fallen Church has not only fallen due to large scale omissions of Church history, the exorcism of sound doctrine out of the Church, loss of a unitary across the board conception of Scripture such as Calvin and the Reformers had, but also by commercializing itself. For example, 501c3 is just the tip of the iceberg. Salvation is now 'sold' to folks as if it were the sole 'church product' in commerce on sale each Sunday. Salvation is a thing in itself stripped away from the teachings of adoption, justification and sanctification. In fact, Salvation has become the whole narcissistic means by which the fallen church markets itself... and as hitched to a heretical doctrine of unlimited unconditional love severed from any real conception of the Law.
There is no teaching of real Christian duty and responsibility and the application of a moral teaching to daily life. None. The churches have gone Woke lawless and insane. They have become the Harlot. And as well, the Synagogues of Satan. I realize that this will sound harsh and way too far out there. But if one reads the Reformers and the Confessions of Faith ... or Matthew Henry and the Geneva Notes, it just too darn hard to conclude otherwise.
I could be wrong but I think Mike's comment about a self-aware AI is fanciful. I think that is a Hollywood fantasy. Computer nerds always dream about reproducing the human brain who have no idea how complex human brain is. Always trying to be gods. I do not believe any machine can ever exhibit true initiative.
If Elon Musk and others who ought know say AI poses an 'existential threat' to humankind, then maybe I ought to take them seriously. And if these same people say AI research ought to be suspended until parameters and safeguards are in place, I ought to take these people seriously. And if twenty-five to fifty percent of what I have read about the research going on is true, then I am able to project far enough ahead and see real trouble.
I found out, for example, that the human brain has been totally mapped out as to what does what. And now they are working on interface, electromagnetic frequency and how to pinpoint communication back and forth externally/internally to brain locations. And with supercomputers and AI, duplication of functions of the human brain with complexity now seem no longer SciFi fantasy. We have a lot to be concerned with and we better stop the liquidation of human beings and perhaps a human extinction event before it is too late. Maybe it is already. I have no way of knowing for sure. And if it were already too late, it would still be a protracted phase out to prevent chaos and to permit technological advance to match objectives sought.
I am sure somebody here ought to be able to offer a better perspective on this than I.
Well said. As a cautionary tale, I agree with all you said. There is no doubt in my mind that the work Dr. Mihalcea has done illustrates that they are trying to get bio-electronic, self-assembling chips into the bodies and the brains of all humans alive. I only know enough to be alarmed.
I dunno. Maybe that is what all those zombie movies were about.
So true. God's Law isn't even mentioned anymore in the church or the doctrines. Reminds me of the time Jesus violently ran the money changers out of the Temple. Worship had been totally commercialized just like today.
Pretty sad. The parallel to Jesus' time now and then is to be had in the word 'apostasy'. Jesus' understood that the religious establish was apostate the old religion of the Hebrew tribes. And what the Captivity had done to the Old Testament religion of the One God the Enlightenment combined with Dialectical Materialism, Marxism has done to the Christian Reformation Faith of the Reformers. There can be no Christian Faith severed from the Law which is the only means we have in knowing how, by what standard, are we to love our neighbor. And then there is the matter of who is the neighbor, who is the stranger.
Dead on about the Enlightenment and it's effect on the Biblical faith that was energized by the Reformers. That cycle is coming to a head or a grand finish. I think we can intuitively feel it. I'm sure I won't live that long to see it but all this is going to birth a new cycle of thought. The Enlightenment faith is about to go out in a Satanic fire and the Biblical faith will have to find new footing as the church world goes down the drain in a swirl of 'feel-good' emotionalism.
Can you make horse noises while wearing blinders? And if not, can you make hee-haw donkey noises while thinking you are a horse? Or alternatively, can you make hyphenated Judeo-Christian noises while pretending to be a blindfolded Christian?
If you cannot do any of these, then take a stroll down Rothschild Boulevard in Tel Aviv and pray to God that you don't get struck down by a Jewish bus.
"...can you make hyphenated Judeo-Christian noises while pretending to be a blindfolded Christian?"
LOL... An instant classic! I have GOT to remember that one. OMG, it would take at least a couple of pages to unpack everything you managed to say in that sentence. "Judeo-Christian" is an oxymoronic phrase and an offense to the Gospel.
Ha! Ha! I figured that most people would take that bit scribbling as the typical to be expected product of Ye Olde Idiot's Speciality Company. But! I knew you would get it!
I must admit that Obama was right. The United States is a post-Christian society. And that is a pretty dismal statement to take in. As to the would be shrill Christians, of course ... this was too much for them to hear and absorb. And they thought surely Obama must be wrong. But C19 has only proved Obama to be correct. Most churches shuttered up tighter than a tomb, pretty much by actions seen consenting to be treated as expendable non-essential businesses and creatures of the state. My so spoke views are self-admittedly extreme, just as first century extreme as were Christians within the context of the polytheistic Roman world.
I look around and all I see are pagans, witchcraft, Satanism, a multi polytheistic world of this or that. There is no commonality, only the house divided. And so, I would think it all must necessarily have to come crashing down.
Oh! What a dandy-mandy funk I've gotten myself into today! And so think I should stop here. I think that I will instead shake the dust off my flip-flops. And not looking back, I think I'll go study some Russian and see if I can make some serious major dude progress in becoming a Putin Puppet!
I am a Double Remnant. 1) A threadbare Remnant of my former self, and 2) a Remnant of the Last of the Christians. I actually think a total collapse would be best. It would end the funding carousel. And yet, I hate to say the words 'total collapse' because such would be a living hell. I probably could not survive it.
I just finished my Russian lesson. I was a bad boy and my teacher said I must write 100 times on the blackboard, "ŠÆ ŠŃŃŠøŠ½ ŠŃŠŗŠ¾Š»ŃŠ½ŃŠ¹."
Yes, but is the Bible discussing the State of Israel or the People of Israel (of which I consider myself and every brother and sister in Christ to be)?
And how obedient have all the brothers and sisters in Christ (the Church) been to the call to be salt and light to the world? As āthe People of Israelā, have we done such a better job than the vine weāre grafted on to?
I can't answer for anyone else. All I can say for myself is that I am thankful that Jesus died for me and covers my sins by His blood.
My comment was in reference to Politico Phil's comment. In my own life, I have always supported Israel; it's caused strife in my family relationships. It seemed pretty cut and dried that they're God's chosen people so it followed that Christians should support Israel.
I've grown a lot in the years since the pandemic. My understanding of who "Israel" is has changed as a result. As an adoptee, I am an Israeli. My best friend is a Jew, but a secular Jew who loves everything progressives do. So is my friend one of the elect? It seems to me that God expects more of His children than just being born into His family. He wanted them to be set apart so that the world would look at them and see that God is good, that He loves us. Does the State of Israel do that? Or does the state operate like every other globalist government?
I don't know. I don't have the answers. I have tons of questions though and thought I should ask my fellow C&Cers because lots of people on here know lots more than I do.
That's the heart of the dispensationalist vs. covenant theology divide. Is the church the new Israel (covenant) or will God deal with Israel separately from the church during the tribulation (dispensationalist)?
If it's the former it implies that God is done with Israel, they had their chance and they blew it (unless they accept Christ as individuals). If it's the latter then we get into all this end times stuff. I don't know the answer though I do know that some dispensationalists screaming for genocide against the Palestinians directly defies much of what Christ taught. Plus many of the people pushing for this are neocons/Israel supporters. I think we are being manipulated.
It goes without saying that we're being manipulated.
As I read your response, "If it's the former it implies that God is done with Israel" it occurred to me that He is in a covenant relationship with Israel. I'm not sure what the rules are for breaking covenant, but I can't remember reading anywhere in the Bible where God throws His hands up and says He's done with Israel because they're unfaithful. As a matter of fact, He continues to pursue them. So I tend to think He is NOT done with them. How this fits into everything else, I'm not sure. As I'm typing this comment, the phrase "He has given them over to a depraved mind" popped into my head so I looked up the reference. Romans 1:26-32 says "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."
This would seem to imply that because they broke covenant, they are worthy of death.
I feel kind of silly because I really don't know what the answer is. I'm just trying to have conversation with folks and figure out how it all fits together.
I do think this pits more people, people who wouldn't necessarily want to fight, against each other and increases hate and distrust. Then we have this rising mental instability... Satan is vicious.
GG, the whole subject of āIsraelā is confusing because the Bible uses the term to refer to Godās people. But would we say that the current nation of Israel are Godās people? Just because they live in Jerusalem? I donāt know but my understanding of the OT covenant is one which God made with his people, which s thisā¦
āNow the Lord said to Abram, āGo from your country and your kindred and your fatherās house to the land that I will show you. And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.āā
So was that covenant not fulfilled in Jesus Christ and his atoning work? I think it was. Therefore I would say it was āmission accomplishedā for the people of Israel in Biblical terms.
I just donāt know how to think of the state of Israel in 2023. It is for the most part a secular country but one which has maintained a more democratic rule than their ancient enemies, the Islamic peoples. I guess my problem is that itās getting harder to identify who the āgood guysā are. Traditionally we have been allies of Israel on the basis of democratic rule and whatās referred to as the Judeo /Christian ethic. But there are so many evil players on the world stage that I never know what to believe anymore.
So thereās my somewhat confused thoughts thrown into the conversation And you shouldnāt feel silly, because there are LOTS of us still trying to figure things out.
And what were Jews of the Biblical sort? They were continuously offending God down through the ages. Moses, Abraham, Josephā¦they were exceptions. And yet God loves them.
So everything an Israeli does, no matter how heinous, is automatically god-approved? If God does indeed love ALL of his creation, that would include Palestinians, not just the fake Israelis from New York .
And who the hell said, ā So everything an Israeli does, no matter how heinous, is automatically god-approved?ā. That is twisting. Where did a fāng race card come in to this?
That is so far from Who God is. The whole history of the Jewish people has been a story of their disobedience to God, their punishment, their repentance and Godās mercy. Yes, God loves His people, but never forget that He is also the God of Justice. Have you ever read and studied the Bible?
Just who do you think Jesus Christ was? And who do you think ALL of the Apostles, and ALL of the first Christians were? Who was Paul? The issues are rather complicated, but one thing is very, very simple; the true and living God of the Bible does not - indeed can not - lie... He is absolutely faithful, and will fulfill ALL of His promises.
There are many more that could be given, but why not chew on these few from the Old Testament for a bit? (Or is āyour God not the God of the Old Testament?ā):
Jeremiah 33:23-26
Moreover the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah, saying, āHave you not considered what these people have spoken, saying, āThe two families which the LORD has chosen, He has also cast them offā? Thus they have despised My people, as if they should no more be a nation before them.
āThus says the LORD: āIf My covenant is not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth, then I will cast away the descendants of Jacob and David My servant, so that I will not take any of his descendants to be rulers over the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. For I will cause their captives to return, and will have mercy on them.ā ā
May God open your eyes - and the eyes of all who call upon the name of Jesus Christ - to āthe doctrine of demonsā that have been sweeping through the Church for centuries, but which are especially tragic and heartbreaking in this present age.
Malachi 3:6
āFor I am the LORD, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.
And, for the sake of those who may disregard the Old Testament (to their own loss):
Romans 11:1-12
(Israelās Rejection Not Total)
I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew.
Or do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel, saying, āLORD, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my lifeā?
But what does the divine response say to him? āI have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.ā
Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace. And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.
What then? Israel has not obtained what it seeks; but the elect have obtained it, and the rest were blinded. Just as it is written:
āGod has given them a spirit of stupor, eyes that they should not see and ears that they should not hear, to this very day.ā
And David says:
āLet their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and a recompense to them.
Let their eyes be darkened, so that they do not see, and bow down their back always.ā
(Israelās Rejection Not Final)
I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles. Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness!
In sum, I urge you to be very, very cautious how you allow yourself to think and speak about, or act towards, āThe Chosen Peopleā - because they have NOT been āUnchosenā...
This is a very serious, and undoubtedly contentious, subject - but itās also extremely important to āget rightā, and ābe rightā about. Those who consider themselves to be Christians had best tread very carefully through this area...
Amen, Mike. I have been horrified since the war in Israel started to hear self-proclaimed "Christians" spewing vile hatred against the Jews. They call themselves "patriots" and "conservatives" but they are totally aligning with the likes of Talib and Omar in their antisemitism and support of "Palestine." It breaks my heart to hear this from some friends. All I can say is Jesus is a Jew and remind them of Genesis 12:3. Their response: Israel isn't "real" Jews. I can only pray God softens their hearts and opens their eyes.
Do we really have much of a church left in the United States? Most donāt believe in the inerrancy and infallibility of Scripture. Most lack the belief that Christ is the only way. Most donāt attend church where he calls them to specifically. Most dismiss there kids and grandchildren satanic ways. We are paying for this over the last 100+ years. It is a slow slide but speeding up.
I think it's important to remember that the church is comprised of all believers in Jesus, all over the world. The institution is important, but it isn't the real church per se. As you say, many go to physical church but aren't, in reality, part of the body of Christ. It's been that way a long, long time. Share Jesus with others, many will be joining the Church as times get shorter and harder. Because so many will come to Christ in these end days, it's really quite an exciting time to be alive! I think the Church is growing, all over the world!
Agree. I am more and more at peace as the days get shorter. My focus is clear and preaching Jesus is natural. I want to be in the word and in the church. Yes, bring as many as we can with us.
Itās a good word Mike! It is WE, as gentiles, who are GRAFTED IN. We need to remember that daily among all of the lies trying to divide and slander large groups of people. If you find yourself condemning a group of people in your heart, take a moment to reflect on Abram and Sarai and their outrageous hospitality. Do you have compassion for ALL that you see? Regardless of their blue hair? Or their rainbow flags? Thatās what the original promise of God to Abram was. That his descendants would be a blessing to ALL the nations.
Exactly right! And also look at the passage in Hebrews where the writer compares the descendants of Sarah to the descendants of Hagar. Both distinct, both beloved by God.
And as far as āchosen people,ā when the Son stepped across Heavenās threshold to become human, he had to belong to some tribe or people group. God chose the Hebrew nation--not because they deserved it or because He loves them more, but ājust because.ā He made His choice known a long time before Jesus arrived on the scene.
His ways are so much greater than our ways, and we know that they are infinitely āGoodā - in every respect. I cringe at times when people say that they āhave questions that God is going to have to answerāā¦ No one will have any questions when they are before the God of the Universe; only awe and love, or awe and terror.
1 Timothy 3:16
āAnd without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:
God was manifested in the flesh,
Justified in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Preached among the Gentiles,
Believed on in the world,
Received up in glory.
For His honor, and by His Spirit, we pray for the salvation of all Israel, and the peace of Jerusalem.
We (Jews and Christians) are the people of the Book. It was because of their āblindnessā that weāve been grafted in. We are brethren - some of them just donāt see that yet.
If an individual Jew rejects Christ he is not a brother. He is someone we need to pray for. Christ alone is the way of salvation, not mere Jewish ethnicity.
Anyone can recognize the truth of Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior at any time; why would we not want to share that gift? We are all sinners and Itās only by Godās grace that we are saved and forgiven. Many Jews will come to Christ in the End Times.
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āget itā. Yes, Jews deny Jesusā for now. The bible says many are blinded, purposefully, but they WILL see and will know He is who He is.
We are not against them. They are Godās chosen people, with Jerusalem and Mt. Zion being His fave places in all the world! He divorced Jerusalem once but took her back as His beloved. He says he blesses those that bless her and persecuted those who persecute her.
As for me, though they sent Jesus, I pray for them, hope for them and weep for them. I bless them.
The Jewish people are our brothers. Jesus came for them first because of the covenant. And they will get another chance at the end to accept Jesus.
āIs God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles tooā (Romans 3:29). Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, but He had come to offer salvation to everybody. The Messiah was to be a ālight for the Gentilesā (Isaiah 42:6). So call on Jesus, because āeveryone who calls on the name of the Lord will be savedā (Acts 2:21).
That is true and it is the result of the premillennial eschatology which is highly popular in the modern church even though it was not a thing in the historic church.
Exactly. The early church fathers didn't teach these passages as being literal, neither did Luther and nearly all the Reformers.
I happen to think they are meant to be taken literally but I wouldn't bet my life on it. These people that insist that we are compelled to defend Israel as that's what God wants seem awfully sure of themselves. I wonder how many have an unconscious Messiah complex and think they can *help* God speed along the Last Days (despite the fact God makes clear in His Word He doesn't need our help for anything). I also wonder how many are being outright manipulated by the neocons.
Victoria Hill , this is whyā¦. The Apostle Paulās letter to the Romans 11: 25 Ā¶ For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 Ā¶ As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Scripture says that God will bless those that bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel. That's why I support Israel, God's chosen people and the apple of His eye. Deut. 24:1-9
Messianic Jews are Jewish people who believe Jesus Christ is the prophesied Messiah...In other words, they are Christians. Jesus Christ does not see the race or genetics or color of people, He sees their heart and THAT is where good and evil sprout in this plane of existence. GUARANTEED militant Islamic terrorists and militant Ultra-Orthodox Jews are fertile ground for evil to grow and spread.
Jimmy Evans has some excellent points on his Tipping Point Substack. God loves all of us: Jews, Muslims, Persians, Russians.... But the Jews and the land of Israel are the apple of His eye and His covenant people. He has chosen to bless all the nations of the earth through His chosen people and specifically His Messiah, Jesus Christ.
I pray that this horrific incident will lead many Jews to come to a saving knowledge of their Messiah.
The fact that the Church practiced severe persecution of the Jews through the ages has probably affected their outlook on Christianity and made their conversion a lot more difficult. Too many Christians are in name only and do not themselves accept Jesus Christ and his teachings.
Jeff, itās time to do your research on 9/11 or youāll never understand the true similarities between that event and what is happening now. Every part of the 9/11 msm narrative was a lie. Oh, or do you think covid was the first global false flag psy-op?
Our own government andā¦drum rollā¦Israel did 9/11. Concrete and steel skyscrapers donāt fall at free fall acceleration, symmetrically, into their own footprints without controlled demolition. Believing the official narrative requires the suspension of all the laws of physics and I know youāre smarter than that.
Once you understand 9/11 was a false flag psy-op enabled by the electronically stolen 2000 presidential election a lot more of todayās shit show should make a bit more sense. History repeats until we wake up and stop playing along.
I found it interesting the media was saying this is Israelās 9/11.
So theyāre admitting the government was in on it, facilitated it, knew about it, helped execute it, murdered innocent people, covered it up, and blamed others? Then in the future will use it to implement total control over its population, make laws to invade privacy and track its citizens? I could go on and on.
But yes, it appears Israelās govt was and is compromised. This didnāt happen by accident. Thereās no way it happened without help from the inside. This also didnāt happen without pedo Pete and his puppet masters releasing $6 billion in assets to Iran. They think weāre stupid. And if we think they arenāt bringing it to our land by invading us at the border for three years with fighting age menā¦..
The US immediately sending warships over is a huge tell that this is about keeping the military industrial complex in full gear. Fund and support both sides and keep people divided. Just like 9/11.
Kinda makes me think there needs to be a new term to better define US level of imperialism. Terrorist imperialism? But then again it seems imperialism at least protects its own people. Our government is sacrificing our safety to go muck around in foreign wars while abandoning its people and robbing taxpayers to ruin war torn countries.
Gerald Ford Class carrier: You know, the one with the rail gun catapult that craps out and takes hours to reset....that one. You thought to the F-35 was bad....look OUT. This is gonna be one helluva last gasp!!
Some said, made the point that that the United States is in relation to China and Russia as was the Japan to the United States at the beginning of the Pacific War. This was a statement as to industrial capacity which is the measure of the true wealth of a country. I think the point is valid.
An irony is that the Zero, at least at the beginning of the war, was a better fighter than anything the Americans had in the beginning of the contest. And now look at the Americans? Sometimes I wonder if 'one helluva last gasp' is not a bit of an understatement given the Clown World level of political and diplomatic leadership. (leadership is also a bit of a misnomer!)
You just made me recall hearing that Bidenās own family called him āPedo Peterā. So that suggests to me they KNEW about his alias Robert L Peters. Hmmm.
From Hunterās laptop, we learned that Hunter is the one who called him that, and Hunter was copied on the emails that used the pseudonym, so he definitely knew.
It was also a tall tell sign of Israelās govt being compromised because of their covid bat shit crazy forced mask, forced test, and forced vax regime. They led the world by going all in. It was the first time I really noticed how infiltrated they are. Made me start questioning a lot of things about Israel.
Pray for the safety of the clueless young women kidnapped at the pagan "rave for peace" on the Gaza border. How many times will they be raped before they're sold back to Israel?
Israel, or what would soon become Israel brought to the world the modern form of terrorism. No one remembers or knows of the Irgun and Stern gangs, the bombing of the King David Hotel and Deir Yassin massacre. They have been killing Arabs and Christians for decades and they are never held to account. Or how they almost dragged the US into war in the middle east much sooner than Gulf war1 when they sank the USS Liberty, documentaries are still available online. It's funny, I always hear that Israel is our greatest ally, but no country has caused so much damage through espionage than them. I guess it's coincidence that the US became so hated when we developed such a good ally in Israel. The dancing Israelis after 9-11 gives an indication of how great an ally they are
That is incorrect. You are referring to the Arab woman showed cheering in celebration. Which, by the way was not even film from the time period of 9-11. I am referring to the 5 or 6 Israeli men recorded in NY/NJ area dancing after the destruction of the towers. Men who it turned out to be mossad. They were detained by the NJ state police. Ultimately they were released from authorities by Chertoff, another Jew. There is video of them on Israeli tv discussing the event and how they were there to document the reaction. Really, and how did you know there was going to be an event to record.
There is SO much to all this. Youāre right about Israel. Remember the $2.3 TRILLION Rumsfeld said was āmissingā from the DOD accounts? Who do you think got the money?
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2 things. When I first heard about the attacks on 9/11 I *knew* it was in inside job. I remember thinking "OH. They're really serious now." I also remembered that that summer, a few months before it happened, the movie Pearl Harbor came out. I remember thinking, huh, it's not a 50 year anniversary or anything, so...why now? I think they came out with Pearl Harbor a few months prior to 9/11 to prime people for it emotionally.
When I saw the buildings free fall - I knew it was a controlled demolition and said so to those watching with me on TV. I studied physics and it just didn't seem right.
Agree. Jeff, 911 was an inside job. This is a land grab in my opinion. No one was caught off guard except the people that they were willing to let die.
I am still trying to figure out the qui bono aspect. For example, it well may be a convenient diversionary way to an off ramp for a failed Project Ukraine.
The big stand out was the imagery, the visuals ... all really slick, seemingly prepackage and ready to go, and designed to push all the right emotional buttons. Meanwhile, everything in the United States still running to crap.
My guess: global war was always the plan to cover up the millions of covid bioweapon deaths. Three pronged: cover those up, depopulate and make a shit ton of money doing so.
I can't figure it all out. One part of me says that 'they' will trip themselves up because this is usually what happens to people who think that they are light years more clever than anybody else. Another part of me says that they will just keep inventing more viruses, unleashing them and blame it on just another one of those natural 'acts of God.'
And then again, 'they' have a million ways of 'injecting death' ... food supply, air, water. And who know who many millions/billions are now sterile. Hard to tell and we have only seen the tip of the iceberg so far.
Today, De Wife read that all 'the variants' are now unnatural ancestry viruses lab manufactured.
I was thinking on the way to work this morning, whether Israel or US intelligence knew or not, the response will be the same: We didn't have enough power to stop this from happening, therefore you must give us more power so we can protect you in the future.
It's the exact same playbook they used after 9/11. If these attacks aren't coordinated, the responses certainly are.
1) Did you notice that all the visuals for this Israeli attack thing were totally prepacked, ready to go and visually designed to push all our ever buttons. Just the same as with Warpspeed, the millions of masks and face shields ... all ready prepositioned and ready to go upon launch.
2) As an addition to your other post: Israel is the institution of the catholic universal Christian Church established of Christ. Thus, we are not Judeo-Christians. We are Christian ... or not at all.
Remember the Judaizer fracas. The attempt of the Jews to co-opt and move in on the new Christian faith? The term Judeo-Christian is simply a new incarnation of the same thing ... and this term of endearment as subterfuge has worked its purpose remarkably well.
Also, I notice the word 'deo' in the midst of 'Judeo-Christian'. I often wonder about things like this because I know that The Snakes are ever so slick in their evil-doing and getting their jollies off at our expense. But I digress. And certainly just a minor note.
In a nut shell: we are not be a divided house. And therefore, the secular state, not any of them, ever trumps our allegiance sole to God the Father. We do not chose between the twain, one or the other.
Yes Matt, 9/11 was an inside job, period, end of story. https://www0.ae911truth.org/ explains how steel girder buildings don't free fall in their own footprints. What exactly happened to building 7, not hit by anything, yet free fell into its own footprint? What other steel girder building in history has fallen into its own footprint as a result of fire? How did barely trained pilots fly jumbo jets perfectly into the Pentagon office looking into the trillions gone missing in their budget as announced by Rumsfeld on 9/10? Why were all cameras surrounding the Pentagon confiscated by the FBI minutes after the "crash"? Where were our fighter interceptors? Why was Dick Cheney directing NORAD operations from the basement of the White House as per testimony before the US House of Representatives. Where was the rubble of the jet that crashed in Pennsylvania? Jet engines don't just disintegrate, yet none were found either at the Pentagon or in Pennsylvania.
If someone wrote a detective novel about this event it would have to be 10,000 pages long because there's so many clues to present.
One reason: Unable to pass the "Patriot" Act in many tries, it sailed right through Congress after the 9/11 false flag operation. Many other reasons.
When you're done looking behind the curtain at 9/11, look again at the Oklahoma City bombing. It's been going on for a long time, folks, right under our noses.
If the 2000 election was stolen by the Republicans who then, I assume you're saying, perpetrated 9/11 to somehow cover it up why haven't the Democrats been screaming that from the rooftops? They would have eliminated the GOP. Also, if the seemingly inept Republicans were actually somehow able to pull all of that off, why in the world would they turn around and let the Democrats retake the presidency with Obama? Are you saying they pulled that off and then rested on their laurels? You're gonna have to make that make sense. Cause it doesn't.
Uniparty. Election rigging has nothing to do with party affiliation. Ask yourself, as many times as Hillary and all the dems claimed 2016 election tampering, why didnāt they ever ask for a recount or go to the courts?
9/11 wasnāt used to cover up 2000 election. It was to start a highly profitable war on terror and invade multiple countries and make trillions in profits and to benefit Israel
One will never figure this out by using our logic. The game (Uni-Party, plus real factionalism) is intrinsically illogical. It is detached from the natural human requirements of life. One cannot find sense in nonsense. And nonsense is not to say what is going on not real.
The entire 9.11 narrative makes no sense. I came to my senses when someone asked me about flying into a building. I am a very good pilot (single engine and sailplanes)and I realized that 1. I could not have driven such a plane traveling at high speed into a building. Think three dimensionally. This is not an easy thing to do. I would be too far "behind the curve". The plane had to be programmed. 2. My understanding is that the "hijackers" were training on 172s and perhaps in a simulator. Advancing from a 172 to a large passenger jet is akin to going from a tricycle to a formula one car. 3. The demolition had to be preplanned for all the obvious reasons. Expert flying skills!šš¤£š¢
We had a good discussion in the comments on Saturday regarding Protestant Dispensationalist theology (God's restoration of Israel and end times prophesy) and how much that drove the seeming rabid war-mongering of some US politicians (e.g. Pompeo, Pence, GW Bush). I wondered how Dispensationalist pastors would respond to this. As if on cue, some of our "pastors" didn't disappoint. See this example, and Greg Locke runs a large suburban megachurch, he's not some Westboro Baptist lunatic.
"Christian preacher Greg Locke calls for Israel to "make the Gaza Strip a parking lot" by next week."
Greq Locke is a religious fanatic driven by dispensationalism taken to an extreme. This zealotry is no different from how the Muslim extremist imams talk. He ignores every passage of the Bible that commands us to treat others as we would like to be treated justified by his end-times obsession with "God's chosen people". How in the world can any Bible-believing Christian defend this? Note also how the congregation claps and cheers like trained seals.
This is despicable and all Christians should be condemning this, Yes Israel has the right to defend itself but "turn Gaza into a parking lot"? Just abhorrent. And note that Locke says this in his comfy suburban church cheering on the death of thousands and thousands of people on the other side of the world.
I don't know if Locke is really this hard-hearted or if he's just been duped and being used by the neocons, but it doesn't make a difference. (Note the Israeli flag on the platform.) This is grotesque. People that can think for themselves should be standing up, condemning him, and walking out, not salivating like Pavlov's dogs.
My pastor (Calvary Chapel, a dispensationalist church as am I) On Sunday mentioned it briefly and asked for the congregation to pray for peace on all sides, but warned us to keep an eye on Israel as God is in control and it features prominently in His plans. That's how a grown-up that loves Jesus and knows his Bible discusses this. Not wild-eyed cheering for the wholesale slaughter of fellow humans.
Do you have sermons on line? My Methodist church is fully dumbed down. Pablum sermons. Just old people like me there. I left September 2021 and only recently returned. 12 oldsters were there Sunday. Only kids were the pastors kids. Sunday school kids are dropped off by parents who do not stay for church. What does that say to their kids? Iām almost done now again. Surrounded by libs. Pastor too.
I am questioning too. I do want to belong to a faith community as I believe that Jesus calls us to be in community - "your are now Peter and on this rock I build my church" while at the same time he also chastised those who were the 'church leaders' of the day. So we have to discern which of those are led by a 'pit of vipers' and those led by 'the rock'. We go to 2 churches every Sunday - I am Catholic and my husband is Methodist, been doing it this way for 33 years; we are both stubborn. But both same at this point - pablum, ignoring all that is going on in the world. Catholic church aligned with the globalists. Like to say I am an adherent to the Catholic faith, not the church, but still, the dissonance is starting to get to me. Methodist pastor is a conservative, but weak, half the congregation is liberal so he tries to avoid the elephants in the room, and population in the pews is thinning. Tire kickers coming in every week, but most don't come back. I think there are a lot of us 'searchers' out there.
I'm biased as I've been attending Calvary Chapel for thirty years and just loved the late Pastor Chuck Smith. Some of the churches have had problems of late (since Chuck's passing), IMO as a result of trying to pander to the world. But most are solid, and are built on Pastor's Chuck's chapter by chapter, verse by verse expository teaching. This forces pastors to teach on uncomfortable subjects even if they don't want to.
Here are a few good ones, all have services online and archived messages:
There's lots of other great ones out there but these are ones I have some sort of connection to.
And of course you can't go wrong with good, old-fashioned non-CC stalwarts like John MacArthur and Voddie Baucham. These guys know the Bible inside and out, and aren't afraid to teach it.
Sometimes it's uncomfortable and I'll admit to squirming in the pews on occasion when being convicted by God's Word. But truth has a way of doing that.
Thanks I will check them out. I think the root of the challenge is just that - how to balance the 'concerns of the world' with the Word of God. I have friends who refuse to get involved with anything political, and say the answer is to spend time in prayer and reading the bible. But then I am like, Faith without works is dead. Being in the world, but not of this world is a great tightrope act.
Eric Metaxes had a great comment on this on a conversation with Pastor Jack Hibbs. He said, "If you are sitting in a room and hear someone in the next room being murdered and screaming in agony, are you supposed to pray about it or take action?"
Not everything is that black and white unfortunately, but clearly there are cases where we are compelled to take direct action. Doing so though often brings persecution, which many people aren't willing to risk.
Have to wonder if fear of being called out is not the real motivation for not taking a stand, now that you mention it. The left is vicious, know several friends they have attempted to get fired, screen shotting social media posts or taking video of them talking at an event and send to their employers. Lib local bloggers and podcasters call us all kinds of -ists, etc. I don't care, and I'm self employed. Yes, lost some friends, that hurt for a while, but made new ones. With spines and brains. Life goes on.
I first heard of Voddie Baucham on Allie Beth Stuckeyās āRelatableā podcast. He is an outstanding pastor and an expert on our godless culture and said that he made his children read books from the likes of Marx, and Hitler so that they can understand how people of similar ilk think.
Our propagandist, public schools have not taught history properly and thus history is repeating itself. Note the pic of the alphabet crowd cheering for Palestine. Talk about a Grand Canyon sized gap in education.
Iām blessed to be in a non-denominational church with a strong, Jesus loving, conservative pastor that teaches solid Biblical principles in Massachusetts of all places! He just taught this past Sunday that nothing will change the Lordās will and purpose. We should absolutely pray for peace but ultimately, HIS will be done.
Donna, I don't get pablum in my Traditional Latin Mass parish (FSSP), or woke sermons. Weāre there to worship God as our ancestors did. Our parish has tripled since covid; the majority are large young families. Makes oneās heart sing.
Our pastor and his wife flew home from a two week sojourn in the Middle East on Saturday. They had been in Jerusalem earlier in the week, but flew home from Athens. He asked us to pray for Israel, but also the Palestinians on the Gaza Strip. There are still many missionaries working all over the Middle East.
Hi there Donna, please consider that JESUS is the rock that his church is built on, not Peter....
Jesus said (Matthew 16:18): "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
If Jesus meant Peter was the rock, wouldn't He have said "...and upon YOUR rock I will build my church;..."?
Think of how an actual conversation goes- imagine Jesus pointed at Peter when He said "...thou art Peter", and then pointed at or placed His hand on His OWN chest and said "upon this rock I will build my church..."
Please consider that just 3 verses later in Matthew 16:23, Jesus calls Peter Satan: "But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men."
If Peter was really the rock, would Jesus have called Peter Satan?
Think of all the scriptures which point to Jesus as the rock, the cornerstone. Jesus and the epistle writers many times quoted Psalm 118:22 ("The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.").
In Romans 9:33 Paul quotes Isaiah 8:14 when talking about Jesus: "And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem."
Scripture says in 1 Cor 3:9-11 who the church is built on: "For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building. According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ."
I leave you with Peter's own words.
Peter's first epistle is full of this language of foundational rocks and cornerstones, and he is always talking about Jesus and not himself.
I'd like you to consider, in Peterās mind, when Jesus said, āOn this rock I will build my churchā
- Did Peter end up thinking Jesus was talking about Peter or Jesus?
1 Peter 2: 4-8: "To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed."
Last note:
In Acts 17:11 we read of the "more noble" people in Berea who were noble because they "searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
They didn't just take what others claimed at face value. Every day they compared it to scripture:
"These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
Nicely said and thought provoking. And as I read your words, certainly of Christ this rock and not of Peter, a man ... and a man not the Lamb of God the perfect sacrifice. And then the first four Gospels ... solely about Lord Jesus. And nearly all referrals of Paul and the rest pointing to only Jesus.
And so, it must be as you say. Or else the entire edifice topples. And most excellent! Indeed Treat of the Day!
Thank you - yes, Peter was called 'Satan', he also denied Christ 3 times. It's a complicated legacy, but proof that through imperfect people, God still accomplishes great things. David, Moses, all of the apostles stumbled at times. The point I was trying to make was not so much about Peter but about 'my church'. As we are called to be in communion with Him. Yes we need to search the scriptures, and to know Truth. But I also think that this was not intended to be a solo mission. We can lift each other up just as we can be dragged down.
Visit a PCA church. You may be pleasantly surprised, and welcomed.
For online preaching that is top rank and Biblically accurate, search out Voddie Baucham - a Baptist now holding a pulpit in Zambia following a long USA stay.
But use discernment regarding PCA churches, since they vary widely and there is yet another pending split in that denomination - this time over those who accept active homosexuals as church officers and pastors and those who don't. The last one was over a less easily explained doctrinal difference that goes by the name Federal Vision. Some, maybe many, PCA churches are still okay, and there is at least some organized counter-attack by the traditionalists (as there was the first time, too). The Orthodox Presbyterian Church has none of those problems.
Spot-on, all of your comments. There's another group of folks who "identify" as homosexuals but claim celibacy - "Side B Christians" - whose inroads were held in check at the last national PCA general assembly.
These folks already precipitated one major division in the demonination, and the PC(USA) was formed for them and their fellow liberal travelers. Why can't they just join a PC(USA) church? I'll answer my own question: For the same reason the homosexuals seeking a wedding cake passed by a dozen willing bakeries until they found a bakery owned by Bible-believers ... and on that hill they planted their flag and launched a thousand lawsuits.
Leave no rock unturned, leave no soul in peace with God until all knees have been forced to bow.
Same thing is going on in the LCMS, a conservative Bible-believing Lutheran denomination. Ever notice how these people don't just split off and form their own denomination anymore? They attempt to subvert and take control of existing conservative denominations. A lot of this is explained by the money IMO, as things like church real estate, buildings, and bible colleges are valuable.
The money, and the "no stone left unturned" approach to other folks.
How many bakeries did the homosexuals in search of a wedding cake drive by until they found one owned by Bible-believers? And when they did, there they planted their pride flag and launched a thousand lawsuits. None shall know peace until every knee bows: Saul Alinsky (and Barry Soetero).
Exactly! I have said this for years, starting the FVers, who split our local, particular, church. Why not go to a denomination that agrees with you instead of creating division? Or start a new one? Because of sinful, fallen human nature and not following the command to love one's neighbor as oneself.
I, too, adhere to my Catholic faith. I love our faith beyond telling. The Church is run by men so thatās that. I follow some very courageous priests who speak truth. Others are very disappointing. We live behind enemy lines, and Iām not talking about man-made borders. My faith in God- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is my rock. This means I can live in peace despite the absolute chaos. God bless you!
True. We are not allowed to talk about politics even tho politics is fueling much of this evil. The church I see is not preparing us at all for whatās coming and will be like the bridal attendants in the Bible who will not be prepared for the bridegrooms arrival. I used that analogy once to a couple of church members and crickets with blank looks. We will never know when, but we should always be prepared. Collapse is going on all around us. They know it. The elephant in the room is the devil and his world now. We canāt talk about this either. New pastors at my church are told to not discuss Satan at all. I canāt even remember a sermon on spiritual armor. Iāve given this church some time. I feel nor sense any leading. Itās too hidebound and we got an exhortation to get the jabs!!
Well, to my hubby's Methodist pastor's credit, his current sermon series is on the armor of God, and talking about the spiritual battle in our world today. But he ties it into non political themes - like parents fighting at kids' sporting events, leaving the elephant out of it. And my pastor preached on Sunday about the 'brood of vipers' and how people can be misled. But again, not making the tie to what is going out 'out there'. I can connect the dots, but willing to bet the clueless did not.
That darn law that churches cannot talk politics or they lose tax exempt status is certainly part and parcel of this whole thing. Free speech? Ha. Churches chose mammon. Godless libs will go after a church as fast as you can say āRobert Petersā
There is no truth to that myth. If a church feels threatened by free speech issues, they can contact Alliance Defending Freedom, Pacific Justice Institute, or other legal orgs that defend the faith . There is no reason for any church to use that excuse.
Sounds good. But with the pablum being served up around me, I doubt they would rouse themselves to complain, if they even thought to tell us the truth of NOW. Iām looking for a church that would be on fire enough to push back. None pushed back on lockdowns nor did mine when the district poached our fine young pastor right when we opened again after a year utterly closed down. Our congregation was destroyed with nary a mew from leadership. They all just bowed to human authority. Thatās when I left. Unfortunately Iām leaving again. We have a young Korean and this is his first English speaking congregation. Mostly old folks like me. Some donāt understand his accent. They sound like seminary sermons IMHO. I have to fight to stay focused. on sermons. The congregation has aged out and there are not enough left to do the community outreach anymore. Iām so sad plus just a bit angry. Even the small womenās Bible study shuts me down if I want to get to the bottom of the disaster going on around us so we can do something together to push back. To seek God for strength. I absolutely know I must do more and praying where God wants me to do that. Blessings, TB
Can there be a Christianity without an application unto the world we inhabit? And might silent crickets be not the perfect congregation for the Synagogues of Satan? And not discuss Satan is to not discuss right and wrong ... and then what is the point. They also do not ever preach from the Confessions of Faith and what they say.
Please go to rockharborchurch.net as they have a church locator link. The approved churches must pass rigorous biblical standards to be recommended. Not every great church is listed here, but it may help you find something in your area. I have used this info while traveling with great results! Thankfully we have 2-3 excellent churches in our area that are still teaching the Bible, no matter the difficulty of the topic.
my brother's methodist church in a nutshell. im pretty sure God is ok with nonchurch attending christians, or any other tenet that pretty much says " be good". which obviously excludes the false ones like islam.
I had a friend at the time on 9/11 who was from NYC and lost people as a result of it. He was livid and said he wanted to "lay a nuclear carpet across the entire middle east" and got really graphic with what he wanted to do to the terrorists themselves - I will not repeat it. I said the entire middle east was not responsible for that and a lot of people would be killed who didn't deserve it. He said yeah, and a h-ll of a lot of people were killed on 9/11 that didn't deserve it, either. I understand the rage, but do not agree.
On an absolutely unrelated note, totally off topic - if you want to clear your lungs and sinuses quickly, chop up a Habanero pepper. You don't have to eat or cook with it. Just chop it up. An hour later, my eyes are still watering, my nose is still burning and my lungs are still trying to clear themselves. Have a cold or "covid"? This will likely work to clear breathing, maybe a bit too well.
I love hot peppers. This little fella was from my garden. I just had nooooooo idea :) I fully intend to harvest and use all of them, this time being prepared. No wonder the wildlife didn't touch that plant!
Ditto. Probably too much so in my case. My local Thai place (with authentic owners) even think I'm unwell. I'm pretty sure they peek through the kitchen windows to watch me eat and sweat. They've brought out raw ghost peppers knowing I'll snack on them.
My take on it is that there aren't many from their native or neighboring countries that have cardiovascular problems or are obese, and spice is endemic over there. Not terribly scientific but works for me!
Ah but getting people to hate those that physically or tribally resemble the perceived wrongdoers is the way to mass behavioral engineer ethnic cleansing pogroms. And funny enough, the usual suspects are fomenting ārevenge politicsā right here in the USA, and on pretty much ALL fronts. Things may ya go hmmmmmm...
He's great and I'll note, another old-school Calvary Chapel pastor.
Pastors have to teach the whole counsel of God (the entire Bible), it keeps them honest as they are only human after all. These pastors that pick and choose passages are a huge red flag. You can twist scripture to justify just about any insane belief if you try hard enough.
People need to know their Bibles! Otherwise they will be led astray by getting their ears tickled. Iām amazed at how many āChristiansā donāt know how to interpret the Bible in the context of the entire Bible. Or simply donāt realize they need to. Itās becoming ever more important in the days we are in and headed towards. We watch Cornerstone online because we canāt find a local church to preach/teach the whole counsel of Gods word. Itās sad, really.
Yup. I was incredibly blessed that I recommitted my life to Christ at Calvary Chapel Merritt Island back in the 90's and expository teaching is all I've ever known since then. (Aside from being raised Catholic which I'm grateful for as it planted those seeds. CC is filled with former Catholics.)
One thing I've found is that a church doesn't have a "what we believe" statement prominently featured on it's website, or if those beliefs are watered down to platitudes, then it's probably not a Bible-believing expository church. Even worse, some are outright heretical in denying the plain language of God's Word.
So on one hand you have churches that fly rainbow flags and on the other there are churches that hide what the believe so they won't scare people off. Although they are heretics I actually respect the chutzpah of the rainbow flag churches more than the cowardly ones. Remember Jesus' words "So, because you are lukewarmāneither hot nor coldāI am about to spit you out of my mouth" (Rev 3:16).
Good churches are out there, but you have to look for them.
"Good churches are out there, but you have to look for them."
Amos 8:11 (ESV)
āBehold, the days are coming,ā declares the Lord God, āwhen I will send a famine on the landā not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord."
I completely agree that good churches are out there. I belonged to the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod for all of my almost 70 years. 3 years ago I also started attending a Pentecostal country church. They believe in the whole Bible, and we are encouraged to read it. They believe in speaking in tongues. I never have and donāt think I ever will, but it is not part of their regular service. They are some of the most welcoming people I have ever met. The pastor does weekly Bible studies and his messages are great. We never know when and where he might go off topic a bit but itās always good. This church started a Spanish speaking church as they took in some Latin American refugees and encouraged them to start a missionary church. They also have a large motorcycle group that has started coming. Something to see.
I have learned more about Martin Luther, the founder of the Lutheran Church from the Pentecostal Church than I ever have from my home Lutheran Church. My husband will not leave the Lutheran Church and I still attend with him. They have a terrific day school that I volunteer in. The Missouri Synod is moving more towards the traditional Catholic Church, which is funny as when I was a teenager, Catholic and Lutherans were told not to date each other. To marry was to be in a mixed marriage. Now they are going very traditional, adding divine service sacraments and dusting off little used liturgical additions. The sermons are canned and I know exactly what I will get in every service. Current events are never addressed and those going against the church are not endorsed but mainly ignored. Bible reading is not encouraged though it is not discouraged either. I have now come to realize, this isnāt enough for me, but for generations it was.
I have no problem with being faithful and having a foot in each church.
My kids attend(ed) an LCMS high school and it was truly an answer to prayer. Once it became clear we had to *immediately* pull our kids from public schools we started looking around. I didn't know anything about LCMS other than they were better than the heretics in the ELCA. (And their teaching regarding sexuality and gender truly is heretical.)
The school principal is a serious man of God who tests everything against scripture. Not only that, he sent this out on Friday in regards to Columbus Day:
"There is no school Monday, October 9th in recognition of Columbus Day. We're thankful that the Lord used Christopher Columbus to help bring the Gospel to the New World and the eventual many other blessings of European civilization which came to the land we now call home."
Based. I had jokingly told him the the thing I was most worried about the school teaching my kids was amillennialism (as opposed to the homosexual agenda they'd be taught at public school).
So we have our feet in both worlds too with my kids at the LCMS school and my wife now on staff teaching there. Our home church is Calvary Chapel. It's been great as our church even lent the school outdoor tents to get around the mask mandate back when it was in force. Amazing what Christians can do together when they focus on the essentials of the faith rather than non-essential esoteric doctrines.
Thank you for this. Sometimes we tend to feel separated if we do something different. Covid drove me out of my comfort zone and into a new one. I now look to new churches to attend when I am away from home. I have had some truly amazing experiences and being led in new directions.
Growing up the churches were a vital part of the community. Pastors served on school boards and were visible at the town functions. They lived in parsonages right next door. That has gone away. The present pastor, who has been here over 10 years, lives 15 minutes away in a school district next door to the one the church is in. He does not engage with the community on a local level and keeps himself and his church away from anything political. The day school keeps our church alive. It is the hope to keep young families in the church. I do not believe in gimmicks to get the younger generations back in church, but I also know if we are not welcoming to new ideas and try to stay closeted away, our church will not survive.
I am very excited about Christian high schools and I do believe the LCMS has done some wonderful work. May they continue. And I agree fully about the ELCA. The media is more than happy to attach their teachings to every Lutheran Church. Sometimes I think staying out of the fray of the political realm is the way to go. Have a blessed new day.
But note the Islami-cysts cheering globally (same as 9-11) as if murder of civilians is winning an Olympic medal? How much more raw material is now being placed for this type thing ALL OVER the World, India, Africa, Whoever wants to conduct this shit can pretty much do it wherever and find "soldiers" who'll conveniently know very little and mostly be wiped out afterward
missed all of that, Maybe the anti-Zionists could propose to relocate Israel to Cyprus (ending the feuding there) and a Free Palestine would flourish about as well as Lebanon has been.
I met Greg Locke in December of 2020 when he was part of the Save the Election bus tour funded by Mike Lindell. My friend and I had our picture taken with him. He was a polite, well spoken young man. His speech was in support of Trump and was good. He attended J6. Somewhere after that he denounced Trump and went many different directions. I used to listen to his sermons online, but havenāt for over a year.
Yes, he may be a great guy in person, I've never met him and did feel a little guilty in posting what I did.
That being said, the clip speaks for itself as cheering for the deaths of thousands of people is abhorrent under any circumstances. What is even more disturbing is how the congregation responded.
Pastors have a tremendous responsibility to teach God's Word and be good shepherds of His flock. I would not want to answer to Jesus for that clip.
An October surprise, but a year before I expected it. The global deep state warmongers must want all-out war asap, to usher in total enslavement of the nations, since it didn't work with Ukraine or their vaccine genocide.
I just keep in mind, we are the majority, not them.
Hereās a thought: Due to the massive failure on all front, they decided to pull The Sampson Option. If we caint have it nobody can, so bring down the temple on our collective heads they will.
Maybe, just maybe, there was no āintelligence failureā. Maybe, just maybe they knew. And they let them in. Donāt forget, BN is still facing corruption charges. And internal politics in Israel are as bad, or worse, than in the US. And BN has turned hard to the right since the election. It sure wouldnāt be the first time a āleaderā has sacrificed his own people, and took a country to war, to save his own skin.
IMO it's too early to take anything off the table yet, from inside-job to cyber-hack against alerting systems, to... whatever. But it's also a mistake to be too quick in dismissing the power of incompetence. Time will tell.
Most of your readers will recognize this but it bears repeating (Isaiah 5:20): "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil..." Maybe more people will start reading the Bible. What a great result that would be to this horrible mess.
I'm glad to see Ron DeSantis talking about the invaders. It's crazy how Army/Navy vets are being screwed over by... the new invander army literally getting cozy hotel accomodations.
I've seen reports these illegals get a $1200 monthly check and other benefits.
Great timing- our local We the People group featured a group who spoke from the Missouri Militia: https://www.missourimilitia.com/ They are an active group and hold joint training exercises several times a year, focus on unconventional warfare tactics and their aim is to serve as a force multiplier to backstop the national guard in times of disaster or emergency. Thankful for these men who have stepped up to serve our country.
Dear Jeff, I would like to humbly suggest that it might be a good idea for everyone to look into where your states national guard troops are at right now. Are they stationed and on alert protecting our boarders or are they overseas for some undisclosed mission? (Maybe to support our weakening military or helping to add to a āshow of forceā in joint exercise w other countries in concerning regions of the globe?). Are they anywhere but home protecting our boarders since this current escalation of wars and rumors of wars? (Not even talking about making a stand against the invasion of military age men flooding across our boarders; oh no that is apparently unthinkable) Our states National Guardsmen are our Minutemen - it is what they were created from and are supposed always prepared to fulfill now. Each branch of service (army, airforce, etc) has their own National guardsmen in each state. In recent years, very surprised to discover that they can be deployed overseas even if they do not volunteer for it - used to think our Natl Guard soldiers had to volunteer for overseas deployment. It would be very educational and eye opening for a sharp investigative reporter to find out how many are actually āmission readyā in our states or are they deployed outside of our boarders? Would it be wise to call our state-legislatures (governors offices?) and ask what is our states guards mission readiness - a roll call of soldiers (and military equipment) and where they are located NOW?
That might be educational enough but what if those numbers where compared to the numbers to say, 5-6 years ago prior to Covid- ultra-woke ideology infiltration. Hmmm...š¤
Does James Okeefe read C&C? š¤
Also, how many of those soldiers who are in still stationed in states are actually mission ready or out because they are having myocarditis issues or trans-surgeries or some other medical or psych issues, repeated Covid or simply overweight because they keep lowering the bar for physical fitness? How many in your state took an earlier than planed retirement or were forced out during jab-mandates. Hmmm....š¤
"When you think about it, the two attacks are indeed oddly similar in many ways. Right-from-the-same playbook similar. Same bad guys. Same use of low-tech techniques. Both surprise attacks. Both massive, inexplicable intelligence failures. There are profound similarities between the two eventsā inflammatory, horrifying media imagery and righteous anger from the top."
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Thank you for this! I said the exact same thing as well. Same playbook, different time eras. Hopefully we've learned our lesson from the first time around:
hate that i am thinking this, butā¦could the billions Biden gave in tradeā¦could that have been instead a payment for iran to sponsor the israeli attack and cause a global distraction from his failures and his administrationās tactic to fudge his crimes, the 2024 election, and beyond? 10 years ago i could not have conjured this, but nowā¦
Looks like I was right yesterday when somebody asked "who done it?' in the Israel attacks. Fulford just dropped, and he too says it was Bibi in another satanic sacrifice FF to draw attention away from him, the Ukraine failure, and further purge the Palestinians prior to their attempted shift in KZ homelands from Israel to the Ukraine. For what it's worth, I also read somewhere years ago that just as the CIA created ISIS to be their boogeyman, Israel created Hamas.
An excerpt:
Here is the real story of what happened behind the scenes according to Mossad, MI6 and Russian FSB sources.
The head of MI6, who happens to be Jewish, said āThe KM have always used the Jewish people and Judaism as a human shield for their satanic and nefarious purposes. They are a deeply rotten, well-known and well hated bunch of creeps. We went on false flag footing nearly instantly after hearing about it.ā
Mossad sources agreed noting the Gaza Strip and West Bank were so thoroughly monitored by the Israelis that not even a grain of rice can enter there without them knowing about it. In other words, the massive attack on Israel by Hamas had to have been orchestrated by Netanyahu and his minions.
And just like after 911, the country will forget his corruption, unite, give him unprecedented powers, and allow their country to become even more of a police state than it already is.
I'm listening to CSPAN washington journal and on twitter, and there isn't a whole lot of sympathy for Israel, not even from the Republican line. The mentality from the GOP is essentially 'live by the sword, die by the sword'.
"I urge all citizens o adhere strictly to the IDF directives".. sound familiar. He once said that after they finish looting the USA of all its assets, he doesn't care if it dries up and blows away.
I do believe , with so much love , caring and kindness the Obamas have , they should open their Cape Cod property to all the illegal aliens . š»šŗšøššš¼š
The governor of Massachusetts asks people willing to house illegal aliens to contact the Brazilian Workers Center. WHAT? I listened to it six times to make sure my ears weren't fooling me. Nope, that's what she said. From the BWC website..."The Brazilian Worker Center is a non-profit organization that capacitates immigrant workers to learn about workplace rights, immigration, and health equity. We empower immigrants with knowledge and skills to promote economic, social, political and racial justice for all."
Why does the government of Massachusetts want you to deal with illegals via an independent non-profit? Because FOIA does not apply to the BWC. They can hide their activities behind the walls of a private non-profit organization, and you can't request real information on what is actually happening. Dare I say, "Democracy dies in darkness."
Where are all the women? I was at my mom's last week and she had some MSM channel and the talking head was talking about the 'migrants' in NYC. I told her our country is being invaded, this is not what they are showing on TV - somewhere they dredged up footage large family groups coming across the border, complete with closeups of cute children. I said - mom, the majority of the influx is military aged men, NOT families. Her response? I am so disappointed that you have no compassion for these people. Tried to show her the video outside the NYC hotel and she refused to watch it. Question is how many others are clueless? And do they vote?
A US Male Migrant Of Military Age Told His Uber Driver That He Is Employed As A Soldier By The United Nations: https://tritorch.com/degradation/AMaleMigrantOfMilitaryAgeToldHisUberDriverThatHeIsEmployedAsASoldierByTheUnitedNationsOctober2032.mp4 [1:10mins]
Unfortunately, as expected. When the USG Communists take military action against the American people, they will do it under the guise of the UN using these "imported" troops. In reality, they are terrorists for the Bolsheviks with blue helmets and they will be used against us by our own government.
Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government. āHenry A. Kissinger
Time for patriotic Americans to stand up for Liberty!
āThose who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"
Benjamin Franklin
We gave up our liberty during the covid farce.
Remains to be seen if we ever regain it.
Not all of us did...
I pray that the majority of Americans are awake now!!
They aren't. š¤·š¼āāļø
A great prayer to offer.
We gave up our liberty following the Sep 11 farce.
The Patriot Act was the beginningā¦ they will keep taking more if we donāt push back .
But we did not give up our guns and in fact, more Americans own guns than ever before. It might get ugly but there are a lot of us that will take many of "them" with us if it comes to it.
Are there any patriotic Americans in office? Any Governors??? I know there are some sheriffs and we better get to know them....and they need to know who they can count on.
Sheriffs receive federal $$'s and they will obey whomever pays their retirement. Maybe 3% of all Sheriffs have enough spine to uphold the Constitution...MAYBE. That number is all we need, though. I always enjoy your comments, Phil. I hope my comment doesn't offend you. God bless you!
Not at all. I totally agree with you. I'm thankful there have been a few that have stood their ground and told the Bolsheviks "No!" Even a few in California but especially the sheriff in Arizona.
The responsibility always seems to fall to the few to stand up for, even in the American Revolution. The Second American Revolution (aka the Civil War) failed. It's time for a third American Revolution!
Great question. The elitist agenda has already infiltrated most offices at the state and local levels. The good guys were doxxed out.
I wish you, whoever you are, would stop huckstering your T-shirts at every internet site you can locate.
It's just too easy for them, and they can't resist. Law of averages, and all. This is a well-read 'Stack, so I'm surprised there aren't more of them here. That's why that shill Benji 2n's can't stay away...he's a true believer and he loves conflict. I recognize it because I also love conflict.
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Can I just get all of them as a DLC? Or are they only available as in-app purchases?
Okayā¦.
fuckin henry. great nazi. how he has lived as long, being this evil, is amazing. him and soros. death is too good for them.
Adrenochrome.
It's too evil to think about but it is the truth.
Though these "un troops" might not be prepared for the lawless sh*tholes they will be going in.
Nazi Major Strasser: Are you one of those people who cannot imagine the Germans in their beloved Paris? ... How about New York?
Rick: Well there are certain sections of New York, Major, that I wouldn't advise you to try to invade. āCasablanca, 1942
Thatās the plan Tritorch IMO
Oh yes, we are already being "leaked" info that in those border crossings came "Hamas sleeper cells" waiting to wreak carnage on Americans. It will happen. It has to happen, and people have to die so we welcome UN soldiers with open arms.
Problem, reaction, solution. They create the problem, the citizens react by saying "Save us!" and the government brings in THEIR solution - UN troops - which is what they wanted to do along!
And they just created a new problem in Israel. And somehow Israeli defense had stood down so the attack could succeed. What a surprise!
Nice find, TriTorch.
Sorry, you put find in quotes, can you say why? That quote is from a 1991 Bilderberg Conference and is widely known
TriTorch - NOT as any slight to you, to be sure. I was not certain the word 'find' was the best word for me to use, and felt you deserved credit for having located a very appropriate quote.
I removed the quotes - I hesitated using them to begin with.
Your posts are great, TriTorch - never intended any slight.
Thank you OnTheJump, that is very kind of you to say š
'Tis the truth. Your contributions here are enjoyed by many of us.
Thank you.
Ugh! Kissinger. Isnāt he 100 by now?
Nazi
That explains why the world is turning into literal hell, the old evil soul is still alive. Why?
So it seems. Took the words right out of my mouth.
Exactly. That's probably want happened in Israel. The Babylonian Rahdinites are using this False Flag to coverup all the deaths from one of the most jabbed countries in the world and of course there's the oil and gas grab in the Mediterranean Sea. If anyone really thinks Israel was caught off guard, they probably also believe the Chinese balloon story.
Good point! Exactly.
Or their fortune cookie
how can illegals be soldiers of a foreign army? are the UN even a legal organization? I noticed a few months ago, when Mark Stein was still in the UK, how all these young men have the last model iphones and are sending pictures from where they are. To whom? Very interesting. We live in scary interesting times.
This is alarming.
Like the brutes who attacked the truckers in Canada.
Not to mention Australians who said they were attacked by clearly foreign men with masks when their peaceful demonstrations were disrupted by "police"
Thanks for this comment, yes the ragtag band of freedom patriots here tracked the flights coming in and the odd insignia on their arms. I put a pic of them on my Substack about the state of the media here in Australia: https://resistanceactionaustralia.substack.com/p/media-in-australia-aka-pravda-down
Yikes!
Imagine what would happen if these guys shoot up polling places in red precincts!
Thereād look like a colander pretty quick.
I think we need to make that a new verbāie they just colandered those UN soldiers š
Yep! What she said.
Later Jay
They don't need to because voting is irrelevant anyway.
they will die. i guess tptb think these guys, mostly unarmed, are gonna be the kill shot. instead of the shot &killed. your feds, hard at work.
The invasion is organized and paid for by the USG in Central America and the young men are bussed from the border in unmarked busses to organization camps, which Abbott conveniently doesn't see, around the country where these men are organized and armed, I'm sure with weapons diverted from the Ukraine war.
Yes!!! I can't believe our fucking Govt. is allowing this!! To hell with any and all amnesty now. Again this isn't racist
Allowing this? Our gov't is doing this!!
Now that is the real situation.
We are so not ready for full scale war since weāve sent all our weapons, military equipment and money to Ukraine. We are so screwed!
Well, resident Peter's did say we would need more than AR15's to go up against his government. That's who we will be at war with, not some other country. But rest assured, resident Peter's already knows they have all the backing they need from the UN, all the 3 letter agencies, and probably most, if not close to all our very own military. Some of those weapons sent to Ukraine are probably holed up somewhere here to be used against us by their illegal alien recruits. I don't trust ANYONE within our governments. If politicians aren't speaking loudly against all the corruption, then they are in it. DeSantis is weak, he throws out tidbits of crumbs to appear he is on it, but does nothing. MTG, Kari Lake, they are vocal as he!! about what's going on. There are others, too, but We the People need to start getting vocal, more vocal and active within our communities. If we don't, we are done and no longer free.
It was important to get all that war materiel to a place where it will be safe. Someone will want to use it when our government is no longer a consideration.
You got it, Tom. Good to know some see through the ruse.
Nowadays, everything is a ruse until proven otherwise.
Truer words were never spoken
And our emergency oil supply is critically low
If this is legitimate- it needs to be shown to every state police department. I hope that Uber driver did report him.
Gee, wonder if this is the plan to screw with the elections š...if this crap goes down we may never have another election!
Wow, I don't know what else to say...
wow! But then why does he have to come from the hole in the border? And since when does the UN have an active military? Unless they mean Blue Helmet Peacekeepers, in which case they should be able to get him a visa to come in by plane. What is the DHS doing about this?
I'm getting a little annoyed at this substack which I otherwise love. Is Jeff seriously this clueless? These are all deliberate orchestrations by one group of decision-makers and all leading up to exactly what you are reporting. He must know. Why isn't he talking about it?
Don't doubt it.
This needs to go viral!!!! NOW!!!!
Terrifying stuff, though not shocking as our country has long ago become compromised. Thanks for posting.
Oh, isn't that just lovely.........
sounds totally believable.
Libs always bring up the families we must support. You open your houses first, but if that was next door to me, Iād make sure they noticed the muzzle of a firearm legally owned. This whole thing isnāt āWagon Trainā (oops, aged me there) but a train of subversives on buses
Poland opened their houses and later faced all kinds of lawsuits,( trying to get them to move out, or repair damages, or for crimes they have done) from the illegals and illegals won. We do not want to go down that road of being used.
Did you see the story about the woman who took over an AirBnB and won't leave? And she's an American.
Having rental property or unoccupied property is very precarious these days. Squatters have more rights than property owners, especially in liberal leaning areas. It's been a problem for a while now.
Have not seen it.
A Harvard girl. The most crooked, conniving, evil gal. She preys on people full-time.
Do you know her name?
Elizabeth Hirshhorn is her name. I hope I spelled it correctly. Her behavior is deplorable.
entitled Harvard leftie
She is living in an Airbnb in Brentwood...a high end residential area in Los Angeles.
I laugh at the libbies, white and of color, who are now realizing they are not important and the government and their party don't care. So all the "hate has no home here" virtue signaling loons need to buck up and let the migrants stay in their homes. Otherwise they are raycist, science deniers just like me. Can't have that now. šš
(Libs open doors first)
Open *othersā* doors...
Maybe Nancy should invite some of them in her house? I'm sure she has the room. Besides, they would feel secure behind her walled compound
Where's Ward Bond when we need him?
That mayor should show by example!! šš we all know that wonāt happen!!
That would be called leadership, but the Demoncrats lead by saying what the populace should do and rarely do it themselves
Clueless? Far too many.
Do they vote? Yes, and some repeatedly.
it is unbelievable that some states allow voting without showing identification. When I first read this I thought they were mistaken. I live in GA and here there is quite a decent control for voting. Driver's licence, and that is only given to US citizens and green card holders, comparing your name and signature and picture... and then, you can vote. One thing, off and no, refused.
My adult disabled daughter prints her signature. She voted by mail in 2020. We got a phone call after she mailed in her vote concerned about signature. We had to go into office and she had to redo her vote and show ID. At least the Florida panhandle is doing something right....at least once.
My state, NC, is finally requiring ID to vote next year, first time. Legislature voted it in years ago and then the libs took it to court and kept it in court fighting it for years, claiming discrimination, of course, but we prevailed, courts said ID to vote is NOT discrimination.
oh my I had no idea. Never voted anywhere but here in GA and thought all states had the same system! Thinking this was a US thing, until about a year ago, I read that statement from CA where no identification is required. No wonder they get all kinds of people shipped in to vote ! Thanks SB, for updating me!
Commiefornia resident here. Back in the day, you'd have to show ID to vote. That was changed a few years back. Illegals can get drivers licenses and now Gruesome Newsom has declared all mail-in ballots are the way to go. Gee...just when you think the corruption and cheating couldn't get any worse.
Born and raised here...and it's not the state I remember. I can't wait to flee and move to America.
God forbid that man ever becomes president. We need to move to Middle America then. All illegals in, Americans out... like many already fled to Mexico and abroad. So sad. Let me know if you were to move here LOL
A fellow Commiefornian here...I have never shown an ID to vote in CA or even register to vote. I have been voting for 51 years.
Ingrid, it probably was a 'U.S. thing,' until it wasn't, thanks to the communist takeover of some state governments. When I registered to vote in Florida, I had to show a birth certificate - one with the raised stamp on it, not a photocopy. When I voted, I had to physically sign a register, and they compared that signature to the one on file.
that is how it should be! I registered when they knew very well I was a citizen because they just allowed me LOL. At least there are a few more states where govt tries to do along the rules!
I was shocked when we moved to WA state almost 20 years ago and received a ballot in the mail to fill out and mail back inā¦..no Iād required. My children received them once they got their drivers license. They are grown and have moved away. Register and vote in other states yet every year still get WA ballots mailed to our home. You canāt tell me there isnāt major fraud going on.
WA governor is WEF grad.
well, that explains it all, a globalist - exterminator
it is an invitation to fraud !
No ID needed in MN...all you need to register to vote (same day registration) is someone to vouch for you that you live here (maybe an ID too, but not necessarily a MN ID)....college kids are encouraged to vote so despite not being MN residents, they can and Iām sure do, impact our elections a ton...oh, and we just passed some drivers license for all bill, so now illegals will have MN IDās for that same day registration
not good. I am going to make a list of the states where only americans can vote! this is unheard of, and totally not right. Does not happen in Europe, but political parties there have found other ways around the vote, to corrupt the government (several non-majority parties gluing together to beat the larger party etc)
No ID required in NV.
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Oh gosh no, IDK if anyone has a list but my understanding is that not many states require voter ID. I was the same shocked as you in reverse when I saw GA requires it.
Ohio requires state id. even for mail ins
I have to show my ID to vote in Indiana too.
I live in CA and have never had to show any type of identification when voting. Nor to register to vote. Have been a registered voter and voting for 51 years in CA.
Lupita, that's wild! My dad took me to vote when I was 18....1984- I voted for Reagan. I distinctly remember showing my ID and signing my name in the book. It was a honor and privilege to do that, with my dad beside me.
Also I have been an āabsenteeā mail in voter for over 30 years.
I donāt ever remember doing that. I started voting in 1972.
In 2023 I can't understand the "discrimination of requiring ID to vote". You go to your doctor they ask for ID, go to pick up at Target they ask for ID, where is the discrimination?
I completely agree. I think you even have to have an ID to get social services?
Our (NC) photo ID requirement is riddled with loop holes around actually having to show photo ID!
Phil Berger and Tim Moore made sure of that!
It's as if the dems wrote the the rules around photo ID themselves!
I'm happy NC has voter ID again, but we need talk to our legislators about tightening up the rules that apply to voter ID.
And for God sakes, we don't need absentee ballots for just anyone anymore!!!
Absentee ballots should be reserved only for overseas military and the infirmed!
This is where most of the cheating occurs!
SB - However, the NC ID law has so many loopholes in it. In lieu of i.d. prospective voters with no i.d. can checkmark various waivers along the lines of "applied for i.d. but it's in the mail" or "religious exemption" - there are about 7 or 8 equally fluid excuses for not providing an i.d. at the time of voting.
Yet Georgia was one of the states with the most egregious fraud and cheating, a lot of it caught on camera! Was anyone prosecuted? I donāt trust Kemp at all.
Please God, let Trumpās attorneys present the video footage in his trial in Atlanta. I live in Georgia too. Why did the vote counting stop for 3 hours on election night??? You know why.....
not to be trusted but did a fairly good job as gov. Kept from spending through the roof. Wonder who will be next. Difference in fraud might be between big city and small places like where I live (about 2500 in our small place, about 15000 or so in next place over)
In Illinois, as a poll watcher which you really should volunteer to do choose your own place and hours, we have registration on the DAY, if they show ID that matches a physical address with a bill mailed to them in the past six? months then they can vote. Mail in voters are supposedly denied. If the system goes down, which it did several times and once for over an hour, besides ALL the time it took to REGISTER ALL THE NEW VOTERS in this BIG UNIVERSITY town then who knows what's happening. Then there's the election judges that lie and cheat. I stopped one once. š Twenty first century and we are Rome. Who knew?
I do not like the machine voting at all. Back in Belgium 20 years ago it was still all on paper, check before you vote etc. No messing there. Voting is obligatory when you are a belgian citizen and immigrants had to pay extra if they wanted voting rights. But now my family says it is all machine too. No idea if the other laws changed, but non voters are no longer emprisoned. Probably not even persecuted.
When I went last time the machine here in small town GA went down twice while I was in there (about 15 minutes). So there is a big no-no. Back to paper voting and indeed, lots of checkers from both sides. I think new voters have to register at least a few months before voting. Got my citizenship in August and was urged to register right there and then, which I did.
Not much has changed since Rome LOL
unless you mail them in from new jersey, say?
Would they not have to have credentials then? I have never seen mail-in voting documents. You are probably right. With an out-of-state drivers licence, I wonder what GA officials do.
Green card holders are NOT citizens. If they are allowed to have driver's licenses, are they marked as non-citizens? I honestly don't know much about who is given a "green card." I'm in CA... and Grabin Newssolini is all about this sort of criminality.
I believe we MUST get someone in the Oval Office in 2024, who will begin and follow through with a mass round up and deportation. It seems that might be our only way to be safe in our own country.
Naturally, many will evade such an action. But huge numbers would be run out... and those remaining would likely be less confrontive.
Grabin Newssolini Hahahaha ! Kathryn that is the first laugh of my day.. What a great find.
I don't know if this is the difference, but before I became a citizen my driver's licence number was my social security number. I was advized to go for a new driver's licence that did not show my ss number. But this might just be random. It is making me angry to see how much trouble I had to go through to become legal (refused once, paperwork redone, then office 'misplaced' my test and had to wait more than a year from test to ceremony, for some present it took only 6 weeks) and moneywise - cross the border cost nothing - doing all and everything including 2 sleepover since I had to be there so early - almost 3000 $
Dopey app won't let me like your reply to MY reply. Keeps directing me to create an account...
If I didn't have an account, how did I reply to you? How have I managed to figuratively 'run my mouth' in comments? Huh?
When a mobile phone app has me questioning my mental acuity (when my family has never succeeded) I reckon some "kudos" are in order. Nevertheless, I'm old and do not want to waste valuable time 'arguing' with my phone.
All that to say... I liked your response! LOL
thanks for letting me know I am not the only one whose electronics seem to run amock ! Keep getting that message, or "for your safety we sent you a link" and then sometimes no link comes..
If Georgia's voting system is so great, how did they steal the election in 2020? Probably even before and certainly after.
i did not say the whole system is so great. i said that in our small town it is good. I have no idea how it is anywhere else in GA. but all off GA requires paperwork, contrary to several other states.
.....but the green card holders may not vote, right?
GC holder may NOT legally vote.
that is right. you can get a driver's licence on a green card, but you cannot vote. I have not tried to vote when on green card, so I don't know how close they watch for that. Got citizenship in 2012
Washington Governor Inslee decreed (no one voted on it) that a ballot would be mailed to every address where a driver's license was given. Illegals can get drivers licenses. They also can have addresses. It is said that illegals know they cannot vote, and know the penalty for voting, but I wonder.
sounds like putting the cat there with the milk. I didn't know illegals could get DL in Washington too. Need to read up on the States again after all these years!
Alabama has no signature verification
And some aren't even alive, yet they vote anyhow!
Ain't Democracy grand?!
We are the opposite. Our successful 40 something kids are the ones too busy to watch the news, but they swallow hook, line and sinker, everything that comes across their phones which is still msm propaganda.
I'm the mom,75. It's my 40 something kids that are clueless. They think I've gone off the deep end because I don't believe all the MSM talking points.
I am a 41 year old Constitutional Conservative who saw through the psyop more than three years agoā¦it is my 82 and 84 year old parents who swallowed every lie MSM told, took 5 shots of the mRNA bioweapon, and ignore every study that I send them. Dad is dying of cancer from the shot, and Mom is definitely falling to Dementia.
They do recognize how evil our Government is, but somehow they just canāt transpose that over to the clot shots, or all the psyops since.
Same! Turbo - cancer resulting in death, one member had a stroke same day as their booster was administered, healthy medical profession adults in the family who are now having heart and breathing issues, but eat organic and healthy, workout daily--ALL "up to date" on their š..... but they just can't fathom what's causing their health issues.
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Iām sorry Bingham. I am in your shoes. I nevwr bought it. Iām just so thankful my parents donāt either and are conservative. I just sometimes canāt believe it because my dad is a vietnam vet.
It is like a death march is organized by 'the government' and the people who show up for embarkation think they are going on an all expense paid 14 day cruise trip of the Mediterranean cruise. And the people are actually happy!
And so, the government kills and maims its own alleged 'citizens' while at the same time it is killing off the country. In all of this, the government essentially propagandizes and incentivizes people to exterminate themselves ... and VOLUNTARILY.
The situation is simply unbelievable!
So sad.
IMO these people are not advanced enough in their consciousness to see through the propaganda. It has nothing to do with intelligence. Humanity has the opportunity to ascend in our evolution and escape Satan's world. Some will move forward and others will most likely get another chance next go round.
so sorry Rosemarie - happens on both ends here. Father and older friends AND younger cousins. I have only 4 legged children and thankfully they do not have iphones
Oh Ingrid, what would we do without the loyal 4 legged companions. They never bought into the madness around us!
I would vote for a dog for president any day. I think I would even vote for the biting biden dog. Who knows what the animals goes through every day
I should run my 3-legged dog. He's a veteran . . . of the marmot wars.
I will vote for him !
He might be too busy "doing his business." This might be an improvement, though.
I have one of each, 28 and 30. One is a Trump supporter, the other voted for some socialist 3rd party candidate in 2020. Makes for interesting family gatherings.
yeah, i have bro and sisinlaw that are still getting boosters. i dont think they appreciate the illegals any, but their church tells them to.
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Wow. I feel bad for all the family disruptions.
Same here. My kids think they know it all because they arenāt caught up in news 24/7, but they are more dependent on the msm because they lack discernment and a willingness to go against the flow.
Ah and so your kids should volunteer to host a border crosser, maybe you should volunteer them? People must wake up!
Yes. My husband buys all that comes across his phone too. But he does want to watch msm too sometimes. Even tho I
tell him its junk. He does believe me tho when I tell him certain things are lies
Compassion only goes so far.
Poor cats of all ages and healthā- are stuck in shelters, āCue āIN THE ARMS of an ANGELā, so a lady gets 4 out of the terrible shelter, moves them into her home and acclimates them. Itās precious and kind. Weeks later, she gets 6 more, then 7 more, then one she got has 9 kittens, then she gets several
more. She canāt help herself, sheās so compassionate; she gets a dozen more. Everything is great except she canāt really give each of them attention, several are fighting among themselves,
she lugs home loads of cat food and is starting not to bother with litter and vets. Sooner or later, she has 66 cats, her entire home is one big litter box. sans litter, food has to be supplemented with cats killing birds. Several have dragged baby rabbits and even snakes into her home. There are so many cats in her bed, she feels guilty knocking them off to sleep so sheās taken to sleeping in a chair. The lady has a chronic cough due to the dander and litter. Her home, clothing & hair smells like ammonia and poop. Her family has become deeply
concerned. The cats are wild and discontented but she compassionate.
Great analogy. And it is hard to resist the cat collecting impulse. But we only have 3....
All my cats were dump jobs... people dumped them off near by and they gravitated here. Luckily there are only 4.
I have no compassion for illegal aliens. I support legal immigration completely.
Same. One was a shelter cat, the other 2 were dumped, I blame the catnip plants in our yard. Lost one last year who ran away from his owner after a divorce 10 years ago. She would come and get him and he kept running away and she finally asked us to just keep him.
š I hear ya. We had 3 cats, 3 kids, 2 dogs and 3 horses for years. My daughters had rabbits, too. We saved 3 from a bunch of guys living in trailers and sheds with orange cords going all over from a main house. The sign said, āRABBIāS for SELL!ā ā”ļø I HAD to see for myself whether rabbis were in fact, being sold. š The rabbits were stacked on top of one another in cages like 4/6 cages high, NO water, no feed, 90Ā°, a dozen rabbit skins hanging on a clothesline. Sadly our cats and a hawk got them, but their lives were magical for weeks after our compassionate rescue. Turns out, hawks are quicker than kids running inside to go potty and, to continue the previous analogy, cats arenāt always as kind and deserving of compassion as they appear. (Ours KNEW we loved those poor rabbits!) I dare say the same goes for illegals.
My youngest sister had a rabbit as a kid, and a stray dog jumped the backyard fence and got it. Very traumatic for her, she was 8 and saw it out the window. As an adult she fostered them as part of a rescue society for many years. They are cute, but are destructive, they chew on anything they can if you keep them indoors. Hard pass for me. And yes, cats and wild rabbits are not a great mix. I got a hysterical call from my kids when they were teenagers, they let one of our cats in not realizing he had a baby rabbit in his mouth, bleeding out. Supposedly cats bring us their kills as they think we are incompetent hunters and need help :-)
Yep, weāve had numerous squealing baby rabbits and other creatures dragged in to us by our cats. We sealed our cat door long ago (cat doors seem like a grand idea. Nope.) When we go out of town, the superior hunters leave one squirrel on each and every welcome mat by each and every door to the
home as if to say, āPlease come home and never leave again. We promise we will bring more vittles.ā
Weāve had 3 indoor rabbits, one of whom we named iHop (how cute is that?) and they rarely chewed anything at all BUT one did make a hole under our little guest bed and tinkled up there a good bit. We never knew till we went to
move. They had loads of sticks and wicker things we bought him to chew which no doubt helped and they had an entire guest room and tunnel to two of our kidsā rooms. Overall, they were better pets than a few of the cats weāve had over the years and far better than the Cairn Terriorāaka Cairn Terror. HE dug more holes in my flower beds and chewed up furniture legs like they were sticks.
Yes, pets are both a joy and a hassle. I am known to tell mine 'it's a good thing you are cute'.....
Even we, in a rural Iowan small town, have had at least 2 bus loads of all healthy and fit looking men dropped off in our community. I personally witnessed one. They all went into our local grocery store from their bus. A new hotel is being built here as for some reason our two, that have never been full for all these years, isnāt enough for a town of 3000 with no attractions or unique events. Itās getting hard not to be fearful. I always see at least a dozen men buying groceries together each time I go to either of the stores we have- and I donāt go very often. A 100% encounter rate of that sort is not good. And itās not confined to our town, itās going on in all the small communities here, in addition to the somewhat larger ones. Do you think they are purposefully infiltrating the rural communities that are staunchly conservative? This started a year and a half ago.
WOW! That is scary. I am in a red turning purple suburb and say the same thing about the breakneck pace at which apartment buildings are going up all over my city as well as the larger metro. Where are the people who are going to live in these places going to come from?! Our suburb has been growing but the greater Metro has seen very modest growth the last decade, although I do know 3 CA refugees (all conservatives fortunately) who have moved here to escape that madness. So far not seeing any evidence like yours, although I am staying away from the larger city as much as possible due to big increases in crime. My daughter in law was grazed by a bullet while driving home from an entertainment district just last week, granted it was 1:00 AM but she and her friends have no idea where it came from. She was driving, bullet grazed her arm and hit her friend in the passenger seat's middle finger, surgeons couldn't save it, and had to amputate. Thank God it was not worse, but scary nonetheless.
Terrible story Donna. I'm sure those girls were traumatized. It seems like the illegals are infiltrating every nook and cranny of the continent. We obviously can not physically do much as individuals but what we can do is stay out of fear and do the things that bring joy to our lives. Raising our individual vibration by being in nature and staying away from fear promoting media of all kinds is helpful. Faith that goodness and love wins is a mantra to keep in mind.
Yes I think they would likely target small towns with illegals. They are targeting small towns with tranny drag shows. We have family in Texas that are witness to this.
Our town is loaded with them.
Later Jay
I really hate the lack of compassion pseudo argument when we all know the women and children coming in are just going to be abused and exploited ā¹ļø
Yep, I told her that too. Like it did any good.
That really makes me sad, knowing people just donāt seem to care about what really happens with these people šš
All about the virtue signaling. I am sure the moral superiority she FEELS trumps any truth that leaks out. I am coming around to thinking that the thing that ties all these sheep together is their propensity to lead with emotion as their primary guide. I get that we all get caught in that trap from time to time, but it's why traditional wisdom is to 'sleep on it' before making a big decision. Emotion clouds critical thought.
I completely agree. Emotion, guilt and unrealistic idealism leads them.
The populace has been groomed for some time now to cater to their feelings above all else.
Indeed.
I agree.
My mom is the same. I understand your frustration.
She is in one of those retirement communities that are popping up like mushrooms all over our city and the greater KC metro. I look at the demographics - yes there is a huge influx of boomers heading into these places, mom was on a waiting list for months. But what happens to all of these places in 10-15 years? New landing spots for the 'unhoused' or 'the migrants'?
Honestly, Iāll be surprised if the world is still around in 10-15 years.
Same. I also feel its coming soon. But only GOD knows the time!
Good point š
I keep telling my city council people the same thing. They say 'good point' and then vote for incentives for yet another one....SMDH. (And most of them are 10 or more years younger than me and so will have more time to deal with it.)
Ugh that is incredibly frustrating š
My Mom was in one of those, and my SIL runs one - both high-end. Biggest problem? Finding people to work there. Most employees not doing admin work are (legal) immigrants. The women from the islands (trinidad, haiti, etc) were lovely and caring. Few workers from the local black population (Philly). FWIW.
Yes, same with mom's place, although the help they can get are all white or black English speaking people. Had a lot of college students over the Summer but have struggled to replace them now that school is back in session. They've managed to keep CNA and nursing positions staffed (never had a jab requirement, I am friends with one of the nurses who started working there when the hospital she was at put a jab mandate in place), but dining room not unusual to wait 30+ minutes for her food as dining room is perpetually short staffed. When she was in a NH for rehab late last year though, there were a number of Caribbean immigrants on staff there, though, and they were much better than the non-immigrant staff, who were lazy and had an attitude.
Theynwill close when there is not enough business
Close, or become the new home for the 'unhoused' or 'migrants'?
Likely depends on whom they are owned by. If Blackrock et al, they will find something to do with them.
I believe they will close if no business with the elderly.
So sorry Donna, but you are definitely not alone. Iām just proud of you for keeping a relationship with herššš
It's frustrating as she is so wedded to the idea that she is a D; when actually many of her views are completely at odds with today's D party. She is pro-life, pro police, and fights her doc over taking any new RX drugs as she 'doesn't trust pharmaceutical companies'. But she got the first 2 shots!?! Thank goodness her PCP told her not to get any more since she had a lot of skin reactions after the first 2. Called me ranting about one of the nurses in her assisted living community complaining about having to start paying her loans back again. Mom was like, she borrowed the money, she needs to shut up and pay it back. But God help me if I say anything positive about Trump in her midst....crazy times we are in for sure!
I call it the jab stare. When u start talking ācrazyā they just give u that look. I barely talk about anything important anymore bc of that stare. Thatās why I love all the ppl here, we might not agree but at least we are open to opposition š
Yes, I stopped talking about serious issues with family, including two of my own children.
I save important discussions with trusted friends and Church family.
Itās sad, if u want to keep a relationship, you canāt talk about whatās really going on.
Canāt agree enough Christy. And yes Iāve seen the jab stare
Itās eeery to say the least
Huge family and all juiced up
This comment section is my solace
Yes. Totally agree!!!
Many are clueless and yes they vote. I have several in my own circle of family and friends
My entire family is clueless š
Your mom, Donna, is the exact opposite of my 96 year old mom. We just talked yesterday. She lives independently in Northern California and told me she is worried with all the fighting aged brown men coming over the border illegally. She said "it is just a matter of time before something really bad happens because of this invasion." Yes! And...where are all the women? I have been asking this for 2 years. All I can do is pray.
Too bad we can't get the 2 of them together! Mom is mentally sharp, physically she is mess though, between arthritis, poor balance, and too many hours sitting watching the Hallmark channel she can't live on her own. Sadly, many of her compatriots at the place she is living now are the opposite. They get around fine, but mentally heading towards the memory care wing. Has a few acquaintances but none who pay a bit of attention to current events. She reads the local lefty rag cover to cover every day. But think a conservative friend or 2 might help move the needle. She will not listen to me as she says I am in the Trump cult.
You can gift her a paper copy of The Epoch Times. ā„
Maybe anonymously gift that Epoch Times subscription as @SadieJay suggests. When you visit, don't say anything for a while. After a couple of months, if it's not on the bottom of the bird cage, when you finally notice a copy š, ask, What's this? As if you've never heard of it before. Etc. You might even hear something surprising first. Unless, even if there's no bird, you pick up on the great instant recycling. š
Just a thought.
She has actually gotten occasional free copies in the mail as they probably buy the list of the local rag's subscriber base. She read through the first one, and then next time I was over there, gave it to me and said, I am not reading this 'right wing crap'. But to her credit she didn't throw it away. She saves me the copies she gets though, but tells me she won't read them. I sometimes print off stories and leave them laying in her pile of reading material, and will later ask if she read them. Usually says she has been 'too busy' although she has said she is not getting any shots this year, so a little progress. But the TDS is strong, anything praising him sets her off in a blind rage.
Oh well. It was a thought. --
My mom won't read anything outside of her regular routine - - print version of legacy city rag. Rigidity possibly attributable to spectrum disorder, high functioning Aspie-ish. Never diagnosed. (Only by me. š I have a sibling there + NPD, neither condition diagnosed except by me. This is a truly nasty person. Thankfully I have friends who also have narcis-sisters and a cousin divorced from a narcissist. They know I'm not exaggerating when I report behaviors.) Mom's 92 so I cut her all the slack she needs. Not worth confrontation at this stage. Some people will never wake up. --
Therefore the theory in woo space, backed up by quantum physics, that speaks to parallel realities. The New Earth existing side by side with the old, current paradigm earth. New Earth people will exist and live with their hearts in the lead, cooperating instead of competing, etc. Those stuck in the old will continue to hold old paradigm thinking which reveres the servant mind above the true self heart master, material gain over the rewards of spirit, etc. The two worlds can view each other, sort of like a movie screen, but not be of each other, even if for example two from the two worlds are 4 feet away from each other in the grocery store. Or even if your cashier with whom you might interact is in the old earth. It's quantum. Haven't quite wrapped my mind around it, or figured out how it works with governments, from local to national. I'm aware and grieving that I have to let go of whatever might bind me to the old. I sure don't want to stay there. Letting go is hard. Especially of children, now adult. I'm lucky I have always viewed them as individuals on their own journeys, never extensions of myself. The grief may never end. I've had a lot of practice at it, though, so know that even if it doesn't go away, it changes. And it changes me. That old adage, the mill grinds hard but very, very fine. --
Don't know if any of the foregoing odd-sounding, quantum-referenced premise has drifted into your world. This author has a unique viewpoint (don't we all?). Sample:
https://devanneykathleen.substack.com/p/the-lure-of-as-if-world --
Way past time for bed. My excuse for running off at the mou--- keyboard. --
Blessings of hard won peace to you.
The As If... post is so true! "The difference in perception between the rabbit-hole dwellers and the normies has gotten to the point where itās truly daunting to bridge the ārealitiesā."
Letting go IS hard, but then so is staying.
And the awake are in places you don't expect. Like my dental hygienist yesterday, or the woman who cut my hair last week. A guy in a waiting area who just moved to MO from CA also last week. Just a few key words and we were comparing rabbit holes.
Amen to finding awakes in unexpected places. My plumber, a couple of random phone-contact customer service reps and a formerly quite blue, almost militant vegan (I'm mostly veggie so no judgement, just ? militancy) millennial I love dearly and have known since she was 16 (now 37) brought 'round under the influence of her husband of 5 years. Yep, the understated lead-in that opens the door wide.
Not giving up, but taking care to take care of self. Riding the bettering, the ascension of the Earth through this traumatic shift, including *sniff, letting go.
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From the (too much) time I spend on the comments here, I do think most fellow C&Cers grieving one kind of loss or another. No one's life is the same as it was in early 2020. Have to wonder, as a whole, how all of this collectively colors our perceptions. If we are all changed, what does that bode for our future? For me, it's not the same kind of grief as when I lost my sister, dad, or father-in-law, all pre covid, where it is total fog of loss initially, then gradually stepping back into the 'moving on' process. But it is that sense that the rug could get pulled out from under me, again, at any time. There is comfort in knowing that there are compatriots who feel the same way, and stopping to smell the roses, so to speak, is a coping strategy. There is still beauty, and humor, in the midst of chaos, but we have to seek it out. Black-pilled is still a choice, I have to remind myself of that.
Little did I know til about half a dozen years ago that the shock and grief associated with death of a loved one qualifies as trauma. The trauma umbrella is wide. The scamdemic, even if you saw it coming, was a type called collective trauma.
"No one's life is the same as it was in early 2020." Yup. Call it what you like, PTSD, a sanitized, clinical remove from "shell shock" which better describes the mental-emotional and sometimes outward behavioral effect of trauma, or otherwise, we're all experiencing the effects of trauma. Well, except the portion of the population born with or traumatized early enough into lack of empathy; the psychopaths, sociopaths, narcissists, antisocial personality disorder, empathy deficit disorder, histrionic personality disorder, -not normal people. Know any? Personally? They are a different breed. They by-any-means-necessary themselves to whatever they want, not a qualm about it. Sick fks. The types we have at the top of bureaucracies.
Yes, the grief is decidedly different from that of surviving death of a loved one. As befits the nature of the trauma. Being in a car accident is a different kind of trauma, whether one is injured or walks away without a physical scratch. Etc. And different for each as each is different from the other.
I'm learning to be patient with myself. This ain't normal. I had learned, pre global trauma, about being present. This moment, this one, and this one, and this... is so incredibly rich with stimuli it's impossible to take it all in. Living -all in the head- in the (sometimes distorted) past or the (impossible to know) future robs me of the present. Smelling the roses. In a way it's a coping strategy. But in another it's a fulfillment of what life is meant to be. There's no space to get into grief if I'm in the present moment. Not saying good or bad, right or wrong, just is. Also not saying I'm able to pull it off but every so often throughout my days. Those are peaceful moments, though. Pretty delicious. The "what life is meant to be" variety. I at least have a basis of comparison. And then I revisit yesterday or last week or the memory of the trauma. Ugh. ...If you think you're insane, then you can't be insane. Insane people don't know they're insane. And the only way out of Heller's army is if you're insane. Catch-22. Do I sound a little unbalanced?...
Humanity makes it through. Even if I don't. The day I get a gun pointed in my face I'm standing my ground. Deadly force on an unarmed little senior citizen. I wonder if my laughter and derision will tick them off enough so they pull the trigger. Flashing back to the trucker rally in Ottawa and how (mercenary?) forces treated peaceful people. (None dead, just traumatized.) Shoot me. I'll be a poster child for the resistance. This is humorous. Even if I end up dead. Hopefully I'll have been of service in dying so well, which would be a great thing. I'll be gone. Likely unconcerned with the aftermath. šš A martyr in my own head. Oh I make myself laugh... (Maybe I need a nap...)
Of course they vote!!! And look where we are today!!! Yes, there was a lot of cheating but there were a lot of idiots out there thinking Biden would bring us all together. Your mom is the typical Biden voter. We have them in our family and they sound just like your mother.
It still amazes me though. I saw almost NO Biden signs ANYWHERE. But yes, I do know some who voted just like you said. Didn't like Biden but hated Trump. This is my ring tone: (81 Million votes my A**) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4XWiKZNMOU My little protest, I let it ring in public ;-)
It's just this very "refusing to watch it" that is the root of everything. I'm wondering now, what is this evil spell that's been cast upon our families and friends, that make them turn their backs to us? By what mechanism is "blood is thicker than water" rendered completely upside down?
Many voters are clueless and will vote on party lines. But the poll of how many people thought McCarthy was ineffective, but should keep his job - 15%?! This says a lot about how clueless people are and why politicians get away with total failure.
I'm sorry, I know you really don't want to do this to your dear mother, but she is exactly the type of person who needs to volunteer to host a border crosser. I'm just sayin'.
She is in one of those assisted living places, not sure they allow roommates, lol. She is 84, many of her neighbors older than that. Have to wonder who will move in all these places when the Boomers and older are gone. A lot fewer Gen Xers in the pipeline....
Hmmm maybe that was the lab behind Covid. Kill off all those residents so the border crossers can move in.
Have to wonder. Saw my friend who's a nurse there when visiting mom one day ~2 weeks ago - said three medical emergencies (AL wing has 41 apartments) in one morning.
Now concerning the times and the seasons, brothers, you have no need of anything to be written to you. For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. While they are saying, āPeace and safety!ā then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman who is pregnant, and they will never escape. But you, brothers, are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief, for you are all sons of light and sons of day. We are not of night nor of darkness; so then let us not sleep as others do, but let us be awake and sober. For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. But since we are of the day, let us be sober, having put on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet, the hope of salvation. For God has not appointed us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, so that whether we are awake or asleep, we will live together with Him. Therefore, comfort one another and build up one another, just as you also are doing.
ā 1 Thessalonians 5:1-11 LSB
āThe nations have sunk in the pit that they made; in the net that they hid, their own foot has been caught. The Lord has made himself known; he has executed judgment; the wicked are snared in the work of their own hands. Higgaion. Selahā
āāPsalmā¬ ā9ā¬:ā15ā¬-ā16ā¬ āESVā¬ā¬
Amen.
And Amen
Makes me so happy that you kept going on to the ā....but you are NOT in darkness that they overtake YOU like a thief, for YOU are all sons of light, but you are sons of day!!!!!ā (Exclamation points mine)
Thank you, Janice.
āLook up!! Redemption drawer he nighā!!!!
Amen!
Thanks Janice for reminding me who is ultimately in control. šš
Always reminding myself too! Sweet Jesusā¦
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I don't get all these "CHRISTIANS" falling over themselves to call jews "brothers" and support them when in reality they DENY JESUS CHRIST...talk about COGNITIVE DISSONANCE!
My thoughts: Thessalonians was written to the church at Thessalonica, therefore addressed to brothers in the Christian faith. A Jew can be a Christian, but not every Jew is a Christian. As for the state of Israel, I am not a Bible or prophecy scholar who can explain or address the issue of āsupporting Israelā and if that is the same as āpraying for the peace of Jerusalemā as we are instructed to do. I just know that GOD knows, and will sort it all out. He knows whose hearts are His. (I wrote a little on this yesterday.) I also know that evil is evil and these horrific attacks against Israel are evil. I am praying that the evil ones fall prey to their own wickedness. May the Lord show Himself mighty, shield the innocent, and accomplish His purpose, in Jesusā name.
1 and 2 Timothy were also written about the church in Thessalonica - specifically addressing the Thessalonian Heresy, a set of false beliefs emanating from pulpits in that city which bear a strong resemblance to today's Prosperity Gospel heresy.
Nice answer Janice. I like to refer to what Jesus saidā¦
āJesus said to them, āHave you never read in the Scriptures: āāThe stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; this was the Lordās doing, and it is marvelous in our eyesā? Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits.ā
āāMatthewā¬ ā21ā¬:ā42ā¬-ā43ā¬ āESVā¬ā¬
The Stone=Jesus
āas it is written, āBehold, I am laying in Zion a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense; and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.āā
āāRomansā¬ ā9ā¬:ā33ā¬ āESVā¬ā¬
Andā¦
āBut it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but āThrough Isaac shall your offspring be named.ā This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring.ā
āāRomansā¬ ā9ā¬:ā6ā¬-ā8ā¬ āESVā¬ā¬
The Jews rejected Jesus and unless they are Messianic Jews, still do. As to how the nation of Israel plays into Godās plan for the world - I donāt know. It seems that civilization started in that area and it may well end there. But as for the āChosen peopleā, thereās thisā¦
They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do. But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.ā
āā1 Peterā¬ ā2ā¬:ā8ā¬-ā9ā¬ āESVā¬ā¬
Paul is talking to us thereā¦as Christians, WE are the chosen people.
Yes, anyone who is in Christ are His chosen. And I'm not getting into a predestination discussion with that statement. :) Great passages. Thanks!
Exactly! Words out of my mouth Janice.
Very well said.
A Jew can be a Christian? Perhaps, but the issue is not simple: https://israeled.org/knesset-amends-law-of-return/
Charles I believe they are referred to as
Messianic Jews. Having believed that Jesus is the Messiah. However, many Jews are not.
Messianic Jews follow all the rituals which Jews identify with but believe in Jesus as Messiah.
Of course a Jew can be a Christian. All of Christās apostles were Jewish. Anyone who trusts in his own heart that Jesus is Lord and that God raised Him from the dead can become a Christian. Anyone.
But is a Jew who converts to Christianity still a Jew?
Absolutely. Jews by heritage are descendants of Jacob, whom God renamed Israel. Of course, a person of non-Jewish genealogy can accept the Jewish faith and become a spiritual Jew. When a Jewish person becomes a believer in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, that person is called a Messianic or completed Jew. They are trusting Jesus, not their adherence to the Mosaic law
Or their geneology or anything else, for their salvation.
So Messianic Jews are still Jews because of their ancestry? So a Messianic Jew can abjure the Mosaic law, including circumcision, and still be a Jew? And do Jews consider Messianic Jews to still be Jews?
I am not trying to be quarrelsome, I am genuinely puzzled.
The Jews are Godās chosen people, and He made a covenant with them long ago that will never be broken, despite their actions. (Since Jesus, all Christians are in covenant with God.) God also said that He would bless those who bless Israel and condemn those who condemn Israel. Godās Words are everlasting.
"Since Jesus, all Christians are in covenant with God": EXACTLY. We of faith have been grafted into the vine of Abraham's Israel. We are as "chosen" now as were the early patriarchs.
Despite their actions? So God is ok with anything a Jew does? You might want to clarify. He has preserved a remnant of believing Jews. The rest will perish along with all who reject Christ. But He may graft them back in, THROUGH FAITH in Messiah, at the end of the age.
You are exactly right. God will (and has) punished those who disobey Him. But, His covenant with Abraham ensures that the Jewish people will always be a part of His plan. Bible prophecy is centered on Israel and the Jewish people.
Israel is a tribe, not a place?
Indeed: "If at any time I declare of a nation that I will prosper them and build them up, and then they turn from righteousness and do evil in my sight, then I will turn away from the good I had promised to do for them, says the LORD". (Quotation from memory, but I got the gist of it.)
We don't owe them any money or support. Can we fix ourselves first?
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Israeli settlers spitting on nuns in Jerusalem. The Israeli National Security Minister defends this practice as a "long Jewish tradition".
https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1711328851999998179
All I am going to say is you can call a place something but that doesn't mean it is the real thing. I can live in a town called Heaven but it isn't The Heaven. Same with Israel. What is called Israel today is a construct from 1949 and several nations. Doesn't mean it is The Israel from the Bible.
But Israel is our best ally !!!
(Sir Sarcasm here ... reporting for duty)
"Despite their actions"? God fulfilled His covenant when He sent His Son to shed His blood for their sins. This was the Promise of the Covenant. Apostate Israel broke the covenant when they rejected the Messiah. They did not have a "get out of jail free card" for breaking the covenant with God. God spoke to the consequences of this many times in the OT prophets and Jesus and the apostles spoke to this many times in the NT and warned the believing, faithful Israelis of what was coming, warning them when they should flee Jerusalem. John's vision in Revelation is devoted to this. In Exodus, the generation that rebelled against God and was not allowed to enter the promise land prefigures this. Only the new generation was allowed to enter.
Jesus Christ, the long anticipated Messiah, established the New Covenant through his life, death and resurrection thus closing out and replacing the Old Covenant. This involved a change in who is Israel for now the priesthood is expanded to all believers to include everyone who accepted the Messiah, Jew and Gentile alike. This is the new Israel. And indeed, God will fulfill all His promises to Israel. The Jews who did not accept the coming of Jesus Christ are not a part of Israel. With the coming of the Messiah and His work on the cross shedding His blood for all, the Old Covenant was closed out and God's judgement was poured out on apostate Jerusalem.
Daniel 9:26-27 prophesies the coming of the armies to destroy Jerusalem and the Temple. The parallel passage to Matt 24 and Daniel 9 is Luke 21:20-22 which makes clear the meaning of Matt and Daniel. This is the "abomination of desolation" and, as Luke explains, was to be the armed invasion of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple as God brings the Old Covenant to a close. In 68 AD, the Edomites, the age long enemies of Israel, surrounded and invaded the city and slaughtered 8,500 people in the Temple. In the words of Josephus, this was "the beginning of the destruction of the city. From this very day may be dated the overthrow of her wall and the ruin of her affairs." These are "the days of vengeance that all things which are written (in the OT) may be fulfilled" Luke 21:22.
This was the closing out of the Old Covenant with God's wrath poured out on apostate Israel and the establishment of the New Covenant in Christ's shed blood. Jesus said in Matt 24:21, "For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, NOR EVER SHALL BE." The Great Tribulation refers to the destruction of Temple in that generation alone (70 AD), an absolutely unique event in history never to be repeated.
To quote Bill Murray in Stripes, "I want to party with you, cowboy".
I don't agree with your interpretation but recognize it's very well summarized and correctly reflects the Church stance through most of history. The beauty of it though is that it doesn't matter! We agree on the essentials and are saved by the Blood of the Lamb.
There is a real danger in elevating non-essential doctrines in importance as it causes needless division within the Body. Plus the some of the stuff end time dispensationalists are saying sounds bloodthirsty and geocidal to me. I can't square that with the rest of Christ's ministry.
You know your doctrine though, and praise God for it.
Thanks Jeff. Don't know how much doctrine I know but I like to think I know enough (when is it ever enough?) of Scripture to be able to put 2 and 2 together. In my early days as a Bible student I was attending a small conservative Reformed congregation and, being a neophyte, I was assigned to read a book by a Reformed scholar and give a review. When I presented my review and evaluation, the elders were amazed at my insights. It appeared to me that certain aspects of the author's presentation were truncated leaving holes in the Biblical narrative especially in regard to the function of the Holy Spirit in empowering the body of Christ. That was over 40 years ago. Frankly, I'm amazed I can still remember that.
I agree with you that regardless of our Scriptural knowledge or lack thereof, we are all brothers and sisters in Christ, saved by God's Grace. In terms of personal salvation, that is all that matters. But Christianity is so much more than personal salvation, which is our starting point. The body of Christ is commissioned to apply the Word of God to all areas of life and, by the power of the Holy Spirit, bring restoration, healing and salvation to all of mankind and all that man does. Some call it the Great Commission. I call it the marching orders of the King.
One of the practical problems (as opposed to theological) of premil eschatology I see is the tendency to reduce the Christian experience to personal salvation alone. The believer sits in the pew each Sunday worshiping God with the rest of the congregation and then goes into the other six days of the week with no vision of applying the Word of God to the rest of life. The reason for this is that his/her eschatology tells him that the church is destined to be defeated this side of the Rapture and that, until Christ RETURNS, Satan is going to win this war for world. As evil gains the upper hand and the world descends into debauchery and chaos, we must hold out sitting in our pew hoping that Christ returns before they come to take us to the camps. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Is this the victory that Christ won on the Cross? Is this the power of the Holy Spirit which inhabits the body of Christ? Unable to defeat to the power of Satan? Really? In His incarnation, the Son of God confronted Satan and defeated him, fulfilled all of God's Law and gave His life as a sacrifice to cover the sins of all who would have faith in Him. He then ascended into heaven to sit on the throne at the right hand of God thus casting Satan out of heaven who fell like lightening. In Luke 10:18-19, Jesus said, "I saw Satan fall like lightening from heaven. Behold, I give you the AUTHORITY to trample on serpents and scorpions and over ALL the power of the enemy..." He doesn't say some authority! Jesus said ALL authority over ALL the power of the enemy. It doesn't get any clearer than that.
When Jesus ascended, He sent the Holy Spirit to inhabit His body on earth, the church militant. How can Evil resist and overcome the Holy Spirit of God? We have to get those thoughts out of our mouth and out of our head. The modern church today is suffering from severe cognitive dissonance. While proclaiming the power of God unto salvation, we at same time believe in a defeatist eschatology of an impotent God unable to defeat evil in history. We have to ask ourselves where is our real faith? Then we have to go back to Scripture and ask where did we go wrong?
Remember that the Fallen Church has not only fallen due to large scale omissions of Church history, the exorcism of sound doctrine out of the Church, loss of a unitary across the board conception of Scripture such as Calvin and the Reformers had, but also by commercializing itself. For example, 501c3 is just the tip of the iceberg. Salvation is now 'sold' to folks as if it were the sole 'church product' in commerce on sale each Sunday. Salvation is a thing in itself stripped away from the teachings of adoption, justification and sanctification. In fact, Salvation has become the whole narcissistic means by which the fallen church markets itself... and as hitched to a heretical doctrine of unlimited unconditional love severed from any real conception of the Law.
There is no teaching of real Christian duty and responsibility and the application of a moral teaching to daily life. None. The churches have gone Woke lawless and insane. They have become the Harlot. And as well, the Synagogues of Satan. I realize that this will sound harsh and way too far out there. But if one reads the Reformers and the Confessions of Faith ... or Matthew Henry and the Geneva Notes, it just too darn hard to conclude otherwise.
This is serious:
https://www.brighteon.com/23b327b9-4562-42d9-a9a1-84750075926b
I could be wrong but I think Mike's comment about a self-aware AI is fanciful. I think that is a Hollywood fantasy. Computer nerds always dream about reproducing the human brain who have no idea how complex human brain is. Always trying to be gods. I do not believe any machine can ever exhibit true initiative.
If Elon Musk and others who ought know say AI poses an 'existential threat' to humankind, then maybe I ought to take them seriously. And if these same people say AI research ought to be suspended until parameters and safeguards are in place, I ought to take these people seriously. And if twenty-five to fifty percent of what I have read about the research going on is true, then I am able to project far enough ahead and see real trouble.
I found out, for example, that the human brain has been totally mapped out as to what does what. And now they are working on interface, electromagnetic frequency and how to pinpoint communication back and forth externally/internally to brain locations. And with supercomputers and AI, duplication of functions of the human brain with complexity now seem no longer SciFi fantasy. We have a lot to be concerned with and we better stop the liquidation of human beings and perhaps a human extinction event before it is too late. Maybe it is already. I have no way of knowing for sure. And if it were already too late, it would still be a protracted phase out to prevent chaos and to permit technological advance to match objectives sought.
I am sure somebody here ought to be able to offer a better perspective on this than I.
Well said. As a cautionary tale, I agree with all you said. There is no doubt in my mind that the work Dr. Mihalcea has done illustrates that they are trying to get bio-electronic, self-assembling chips into the bodies and the brains of all humans alive. I only know enough to be alarmed.
I dunno. Maybe that is what all those zombie movies were about.
So true. God's Law isn't even mentioned anymore in the church or the doctrines. Reminds me of the time Jesus violently ran the money changers out of the Temple. Worship had been totally commercialized just like today.
Pretty sad. The parallel to Jesus' time now and then is to be had in the word 'apostasy'. Jesus' understood that the religious establish was apostate the old religion of the Hebrew tribes. And what the Captivity had done to the Old Testament religion of the One God the Enlightenment combined with Dialectical Materialism, Marxism has done to the Christian Reformation Faith of the Reformers. There can be no Christian Faith severed from the Law which is the only means we have in knowing how, by what standard, are we to love our neighbor. And then there is the matter of who is the neighbor, who is the stranger.
Dead on about the Enlightenment and it's effect on the Biblical faith that was energized by the Reformers. That cycle is coming to a head or a grand finish. I think we can intuitively feel it. I'm sure I won't live that long to see it but all this is going to birth a new cycle of thought. The Enlightenment faith is about to go out in a Satanic fire and the Biblical faith will have to find new footing as the church world goes down the drain in a swirl of 'feel-good' emotionalism.
Don't ask me what that means.
Bravo. I wish more believers understood this.
You and me both!
Can you make horse noises while wearing blinders? And if not, can you make hee-haw donkey noises while thinking you are a horse? Or alternatively, can you make hyphenated Judeo-Christian noises while pretending to be a blindfolded Christian?
If you cannot do any of these, then take a stroll down Rothschild Boulevard in Tel Aviv and pray to God that you don't get struck down by a Jewish bus.
"...can you make hyphenated Judeo-Christian noises while pretending to be a blindfolded Christian?"
LOL... An instant classic! I have GOT to remember that one. OMG, it would take at least a couple of pages to unpack everything you managed to say in that sentence. "Judeo-Christian" is an oxymoronic phrase and an offense to the Gospel.
I take it as folliwing the commandments (Judeo) and Christ's teachings (Christian).
The Law was given as a guide to all of Israel including the new Israel of the risen Messiah. God's Word is one Word, not two different Words.
Ha! Ha! I figured that most people would take that bit scribbling as the typical to be expected product of Ye Olde Idiot's Speciality Company. But! I knew you would get it!
You'll have to check out my last reply to Jeff in this same string.
I must admit that Obama was right. The United States is a post-Christian society. And that is a pretty dismal statement to take in. As to the would be shrill Christians, of course ... this was too much for them to hear and absorb. And they thought surely Obama must be wrong. But C19 has only proved Obama to be correct. Most churches shuttered up tighter than a tomb, pretty much by actions seen consenting to be treated as expendable non-essential businesses and creatures of the state. My so spoke views are self-admittedly extreme, just as first century extreme as were Christians within the context of the polytheistic Roman world.
I look around and all I see are pagans, witchcraft, Satanism, a multi polytheistic world of this or that. There is no commonality, only the house divided. And so, I would think it all must necessarily have to come crashing down.
Oh! What a dandy-mandy funk I've gotten myself into today! And so think I should stop here. I think that I will instead shake the dust off my flip-flops. And not looking back, I think I'll go study some Russian and see if I can make some serious major dude progress in becoming a Putin Puppet!
Indeed. Remember, there is always the Remnant God has tucked away out of sight.
I am a Double Remnant. 1) A threadbare Remnant of my former self, and 2) a Remnant of the Last of the Christians. I actually think a total collapse would be best. It would end the funding carousel. And yet, I hate to say the words 'total collapse' because such would be a living hell. I probably could not survive it.
I just finished my Russian lesson. I was a bad boy and my teacher said I must write 100 times on the blackboard, "ŠÆ ŠŃŃŠøŠ½ ŠŃŠŗŠ¾Š»ŃŠ½ŃŠ¹."
Hint:
Ń, I am ...
ŠŃŃŠøŠ½, Putin ...
ŠŃŠŗŠ¾Š»ŃŠ½ŃŠ¹, Puppet
Yes, but is the Bible discussing the State of Israel or the People of Israel (of which I consider myself and every brother and sister in Christ to be)?
And how obedient have all the brothers and sisters in Christ (the Church) been to the call to be salt and light to the world? As āthe People of Israelā, have we done such a better job than the vine weāre grafted on to?
I can't answer for anyone else. All I can say for myself is that I am thankful that Jesus died for me and covers my sins by His blood.
My comment was in reference to Politico Phil's comment. In my own life, I have always supported Israel; it's caused strife in my family relationships. It seemed pretty cut and dried that they're God's chosen people so it followed that Christians should support Israel.
I've grown a lot in the years since the pandemic. My understanding of who "Israel" is has changed as a result. As an adoptee, I am an Israeli. My best friend is a Jew, but a secular Jew who loves everything progressives do. So is my friend one of the elect? It seems to me that God expects more of His children than just being born into His family. He wanted them to be set apart so that the world would look at them and see that God is good, that He loves us. Does the State of Israel do that? Or does the state operate like every other globalist government?
I don't know. I don't have the answers. I have tons of questions though and thought I should ask my fellow C&Cers because lots of people on here know lots more than I do.
That is the right question.
Seems to me thatās a distinction without a difference. The Bible prophesied the gathering of the Jewish people to Israel.
That's the heart of the dispensationalist vs. covenant theology divide. Is the church the new Israel (covenant) or will God deal with Israel separately from the church during the tribulation (dispensationalist)?
If it's the former it implies that God is done with Israel, they had their chance and they blew it (unless they accept Christ as individuals). If it's the latter then we get into all this end times stuff. I don't know the answer though I do know that some dispensationalists screaming for genocide against the Palestinians directly defies much of what Christ taught. Plus many of the people pushing for this are neocons/Israel supporters. I think we are being manipulated.
It goes without saying that we're being manipulated.
As I read your response, "If it's the former it implies that God is done with Israel" it occurred to me that He is in a covenant relationship with Israel. I'm not sure what the rules are for breaking covenant, but I can't remember reading anywhere in the Bible where God throws His hands up and says He's done with Israel because they're unfaithful. As a matter of fact, He continues to pursue them. So I tend to think He is NOT done with them. How this fits into everything else, I'm not sure. As I'm typing this comment, the phrase "He has given them over to a depraved mind" popped into my head so I looked up the reference. Romans 1:26-32 says "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."
This would seem to imply that because they broke covenant, they are worthy of death.
I feel kind of silly because I really don't know what the answer is. I'm just trying to have conversation with folks and figure out how it all fits together.
I do think this pits more people, people who wouldn't necessarily want to fight, against each other and increases hate and distrust. Then we have this rising mental instability... Satan is vicious.
GG, the whole subject of āIsraelā is confusing because the Bible uses the term to refer to Godās people. But would we say that the current nation of Israel are Godās people? Just because they live in Jerusalem? I donāt know but my understanding of the OT covenant is one which God made with his people, which s thisā¦
āNow the Lord said to Abram, āGo from your country and your kindred and your fatherās house to the land that I will show you. And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.āā
āāGenesisā¬ ā12ā¬:ā1ā¬-ā3ā¬ āESVā¬ā¬
So was that covenant not fulfilled in Jesus Christ and his atoning work? I think it was. Therefore I would say it was āmission accomplishedā for the people of Israel in Biblical terms.
I just donāt know how to think of the state of Israel in 2023. It is for the most part a secular country but one which has maintained a more democratic rule than their ancient enemies, the Islamic peoples. I guess my problem is that itās getting harder to identify who the āgood guysā are. Traditionally we have been allies of Israel on the basis of democratic rule and whatās referred to as the Judeo /Christian ethic. But there are so many evil players on the world stage that I never know what to believe anymore.
So thereās my somewhat confused thoughts thrown into the conversation And you shouldnāt feel silly, because there are LOTS of us still trying to figure things out.
Given the historical fact that the current residence of Israel arenāt Jews of the biblical sort that out to let everyone off the hook....
And what were Jews of the Biblical sort? They were continuously offending God down through the ages. Moses, Abraham, Josephā¦they were exceptions. And yet God loves them.
Donāt care
Focused on the unfolding present and relevant pastā¦
Next.
Next. What rude debating school did you attend? Jerks Are Always Right, Inc.
So everything an Israeli does, no matter how heinous, is automatically god-approved? If God does indeed love ALL of his creation, that would include Palestinians, not just the fake Israelis from New York .
What a twisting! Beware of being antisemetic.
Really? You're gonna play the race card? She is asking a reasonable question.
And who the hell said, ā So everything an Israeli does, no matter how heinous, is automatically god-approved?ā. That is twisting. Where did a fāng race card come in to this?
I think weāre hoping to avoid another Hitler cleansing exercise.
That is so far from Who God is. The whole history of the Jewish people has been a story of their disobedience to God, their punishment, their repentance and Godās mercy. Yes, God loves His people, but never forget that He is also the God of Justice. Have you ever read and studied the Bible?
Just who do you think Jesus Christ was? And who do you think ALL of the Apostles, and ALL of the first Christians were? Who was Paul? The issues are rather complicated, but one thing is very, very simple; the true and living God of the Bible does not - indeed can not - lie... He is absolutely faithful, and will fulfill ALL of His promises.
There are many more that could be given, but why not chew on these few from the Old Testament for a bit? (Or is āyour God not the God of the Old Testament?ā):
Jeremiah 33:23-26
Moreover the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah, saying, āHave you not considered what these people have spoken, saying, āThe two families which the LORD has chosen, He has also cast them offā? Thus they have despised My people, as if they should no more be a nation before them.
āThus says the LORD: āIf My covenant is not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth, then I will cast away the descendants of Jacob and David My servant, so that I will not take any of his descendants to be rulers over the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. For I will cause their captives to return, and will have mercy on them.ā ā
May God open your eyes - and the eyes of all who call upon the name of Jesus Christ - to āthe doctrine of demonsā that have been sweeping through the Church for centuries, but which are especially tragic and heartbreaking in this present age.
Malachi 3:6
āFor I am the LORD, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.
And, for the sake of those who may disregard the Old Testament (to their own loss):
Romans 11:1-12
(Israelās Rejection Not Total)
I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew.
Or do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel, saying, āLORD, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my lifeā?
But what does the divine response say to him? āI have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.ā
Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace. And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.
What then? Israel has not obtained what it seeks; but the elect have obtained it, and the rest were blinded. Just as it is written:
āGod has given them a spirit of stupor, eyes that they should not see and ears that they should not hear, to this very day.ā
And David says:
āLet their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and a recompense to them.
Let their eyes be darkened, so that they do not see, and bow down their back always.ā
(Israelās Rejection Not Final)
I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles. Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness!
In sum, I urge you to be very, very cautious how you allow yourself to think and speak about, or act towards, āThe Chosen Peopleā - because they have NOT been āUnchosenā...
This is a very serious, and undoubtedly contentious, subject - but itās also extremely important to āget rightā, and ābe rightā about. Those who consider themselves to be Christians had best tread very carefully through this area...
Amen, Mike. I have been horrified since the war in Israel started to hear self-proclaimed "Christians" spewing vile hatred against the Jews. They call themselves "patriots" and "conservatives" but they are totally aligning with the likes of Talib and Omar in their antisemitism and support of "Palestine." It breaks my heart to hear this from some friends. All I can say is Jesus is a Jew and remind them of Genesis 12:3. Their response: Israel isn't "real" Jews. I can only pray God softens their hearts and opens their eyes.
Do we really have much of a church left in the United States? Most donāt believe in the inerrancy and infallibility of Scripture. Most lack the belief that Christ is the only way. Most donāt attend church where he calls them to specifically. Most dismiss there kids and grandchildren satanic ways. We are paying for this over the last 100+ years. It is a slow slide but speeding up.
Sadly just a remnant....many have been deceived and have gone the way of the culture vs following God and His Word.
That is why we need to pray, study the Bible and be in a Bible-based church.
I think it's important to remember that the church is comprised of all believers in Jesus, all over the world. The institution is important, but it isn't the real church per se. As you say, many go to physical church but aren't, in reality, part of the body of Christ. It's been that way a long, long time. Share Jesus with others, many will be joining the Church as times get shorter and harder. Because so many will come to Christ in these end days, it's really quite an exciting time to be alive! I think the Church is growing, all over the world!
Agree. I am more and more at peace as the days get shorter. My focus is clear and preaching Jesus is natural. I want to be in the word and in the church. Yes, bring as many as we can with us.
Itās a good word Mike! It is WE, as gentiles, who are GRAFTED IN. We need to remember that daily among all of the lies trying to divide and slander large groups of people. If you find yourself condemning a group of people in your heart, take a moment to reflect on Abram and Sarai and their outrageous hospitality. Do you have compassion for ALL that you see? Regardless of their blue hair? Or their rainbow flags? Thatās what the original promise of God to Abram was. That his descendants would be a blessing to ALL the nations.
Exactly right! And also look at the passage in Hebrews where the writer compares the descendants of Sarah to the descendants of Hagar. Both distinct, both beloved by God.
And as far as āchosen people,ā when the Son stepped across Heavenās threshold to become human, he had to belong to some tribe or people group. God chose the Hebrew nation--not because they deserved it or because He loves them more, but ājust because.ā He made His choice known a long time before Jesus arrived on the scene.
Amen, Katrina!
His ways are so much greater than our ways, and we know that they are infinitely āGoodā - in every respect. I cringe at times when people say that they āhave questions that God is going to have to answerāā¦ No one will have any questions when they are before the God of the Universe; only awe and love, or awe and terror.
1 Timothy 3:16
āAnd without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:
God was manifested in the flesh,
Justified in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Preached among the Gentiles,
Believed on in the world,
Received up in glory.
For His honor, and by His Spirit, we pray for the salvation of all Israel, and the peace of Jerusalem.
Amen! Well said! The only thing theyāll be saying is, āJesus is LORD!ā on bender knee.
We (Jews and Christians) are the people of the Book. It was because of their āblindnessā that weāve been grafted in. We are brethren - some of them just donāt see that yet.
If an individual Jew rejects Christ he is not a brother. He is someone we need to pray for. Christ alone is the way of salvation, not mere Jewish ethnicity.
More and more often, Iām finding many Messianic Jews though.
Exactly!
Anyone can recognize the truth of Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior at any time; why would we not want to share that gift? We are all sinners and Itās only by Godās grace that we are saved and forgiven. Many Jews will come to Christ in the End Times.
Amen Julie! I couldnāt say it any better! And true many Jews will come to Christ in the end. !
Umm, in case you didnāt know, Jesus & his Apostles were Jewish.
Just sayin.
So.
If you read the bible and pray for guidance, God will direct you
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āget itā. Yes, Jews deny Jesusā for now. The bible says many are blinded, purposefully, but they WILL see and will know He is who He is.
We are not against them. They are Godās chosen people, with Jerusalem and Mt. Zion being His fave places in all the world! He divorced Jerusalem once but took her back as His beloved. He says he blesses those that bless her and persecuted those who persecute her.
As for me, though they sent Jesus, I pray for them, hope for them and weep for them. I bless them.
The Jewish people are our brothers. Jesus came for them first because of the covenant. And they will get another chance at the end to accept Jesus.
āIs God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles tooā (Romans 3:29). Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, but He had come to offer salvation to everybody. The Messiah was to be a ālight for the Gentilesā (Isaiah 42:6). So call on Jesus, because āeveryone who calls on the name of the Lord will be savedā (Acts 2:21).
That is true and it is the result of the premillennial eschatology which is highly popular in the modern church even though it was not a thing in the historic church.
Exactly. The early church fathers didn't teach these passages as being literal, neither did Luther and nearly all the Reformers.
I happen to think they are meant to be taken literally but I wouldn't bet my life on it. These people that insist that we are compelled to defend Israel as that's what God wants seem awfully sure of themselves. I wonder how many have an unconscious Messiah complex and think they can *help* God speed along the Last Days (despite the fact God makes clear in His Word He doesn't need our help for anything). I also wonder how many are being outright manipulated by the neocons.
Victoria Hill , this is whyā¦. The Apostle Paulās letter to the Romans 11: 25 Ā¶ For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 Ā¶ As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Scripture says that God will bless those that bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel. That's why I support Israel, God's chosen people and the apple of His eye. Deut. 24:1-9
Judeo-Christian culture I suppose. We both worship the One true God, the āI Am.ā
Biblically the Jews are Godās chosen. Starting w/ Abram (Abraham).
We are connected in many aspects; they believe the Messiah is still to come.
We know He has come already, & await His 2nd Coming.
Good Truth here Janice, thank you for sharing.
Perfect! I canāt wait for that wonderful day!
Keep repeating this one!!
jews don't accept Jesus Christ tho
Messianic Jews are Jewish people who believe Jesus Christ is the prophesied Messiah...In other words, they are Christians. Jesus Christ does not see the race or genetics or color of people, He sees their heart and THAT is where good and evil sprout in this plane of existence. GUARANTEED militant Islamic terrorists and militant Ultra-Orthodox Jews are fertile ground for evil to grow and spread.
Yes! I said this anout messianic Jews.
Are Jews promising to kill you or are the Muslims (a USA president included)? Think hard on this.
Jimmy Evans has some excellent points on his Tipping Point Substack. God loves all of us: Jews, Muslims, Persians, Russians.... But the Jews and the land of Israel are the apple of His eye and His covenant people. He has chosen to bless all the nations of the earth through His chosen people and specifically His Messiah, Jesus Christ.
I pray that this horrific incident will lead many Jews to come to a saving knowledge of their Messiah.
Too many āChristiansā donāt accept Jesus Christ. If they did, we wouldnāt be in this mess.
The fact that the Church practiced severe persecution of the Jews through the ages has probably affected their outlook on Christianity and made their conversion a lot more difficult. Too many Christians are in name only and do not themselves accept Jesus Christ and his teachings.
Jeff, itās time to do your research on 9/11 or youāll never understand the true similarities between that event and what is happening now. Every part of the 9/11 msm narrative was a lie. Oh, or do you think covid was the first global false flag psy-op?
Our own government andā¦drum rollā¦Israel did 9/11. Concrete and steel skyscrapers donāt fall at free fall acceleration, symmetrically, into their own footprints without controlled demolition. Believing the official narrative requires the suspension of all the laws of physics and I know youāre smarter than that.
Once you understand 9/11 was a false flag psy-op enabled by the electronically stolen 2000 presidential election a lot more of todayās shit show should make a bit more sense. History repeats until we wake up and stop playing along.
Cheers!
I found it interesting the media was saying this is Israelās 9/11.
So theyāre admitting the government was in on it, facilitated it, knew about it, helped execute it, murdered innocent people, covered it up, and blamed others? Then in the future will use it to implement total control over its population, make laws to invade privacy and track its citizens? I could go on and on.
But yes, it appears Israelās govt was and is compromised. This didnāt happen by accident. Thereās no way it happened without help from the inside. This also didnāt happen without pedo Pete and his puppet masters releasing $6 billion in assets to Iran. They think weāre stupid. And if we think they arenāt bringing it to our land by invading us at the border for three years with fighting age menā¦..
The US immediately sending warships over is a huge tell that this is about keeping the military industrial complex in full gear. Fund and support both sides and keep people divided. Just like 9/11.
With support for Ukraine finally fizzling out, there has to be a new war wagon to jump on. Key in: Israel.
Kinda makes me think there needs to be a new term to better define US level of imperialism. Terrorist imperialism? But then again it seems imperialism at least protects its own people. Our government is sacrificing our safety to go muck around in foreign wars while abandoning its people and robbing taxpayers to ruin war torn countries.
Gerald Ford Class carrier: You know, the one with the rail gun catapult that craps out and takes hours to reset....that one. You thought to the F-35 was bad....look OUT. This is gonna be one helluva last gasp!!
Remember the USS Librty?
Do you think Israel will recognize the US Flag this time?
Some said, made the point that that the United States is in relation to China and Russia as was the Japan to the United States at the beginning of the Pacific War. This was a statement as to industrial capacity which is the measure of the true wealth of a country. I think the point is valid.
An irony is that the Zero, at least at the beginning of the war, was a better fighter than anything the Americans had in the beginning of the contest. And now look at the Americans? Sometimes I wonder if 'one helluva last gasp' is not a bit of an understatement given the Clown World level of political and diplomatic leadership. (leadership is also a bit of a misnomer!)
You just made me recall hearing that Bidenās own family called him āPedo Peterā. So that suggests to me they KNEW about his alias Robert L Peters. Hmmm.
From Hunterās laptop, we learned that Hunter is the one who called him that, and Hunter was copied on the emails that used the pseudonym, so he definitely knew.
Disgusting family of men. His 62 year old brother posted a frontal nude selfie of himself somewhere online.
Biden himself skinny dipped infront of female secret service agents.
I think people are fooled by his senility and age...
He is morally despicable.
https://www.wdbo.com/news/pres-bidens-69-year-old-brother-concedes-naked-selfie-gay-dating-site-is-real/WJTU4A7RCNGWVMDJ7W2DFUBJ4U/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12598081/How-Bidens-tension-Secret-Service-goes-VP-years-skinny-dipped-female-agents-dog-biting-just-things-worse.html
It was also a tall tell sign of Israelās govt being compromised because of their covid bat shit crazy forced mask, forced test, and forced vax regime. They led the world by going all in. It was the first time I really noticed how infiltrated they are. Made me start questioning a lot of things about Israel.
Right??? The Israeli response to Covid made absolutely no sense given the history of their persecuted people.
Infiltrated precisely
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False Flag, again?
Pray for the safety of the clueless young women kidnapped at the pagan "rave for peace" on the Gaza border. How many times will they be raped before they're sold back to Israel?
Those videos coming out of this mess are very hard to watch. Oh, my.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/foreigners-missing-after-terrifying-red-dawn-moment-israeli-rave
It's all so surreal. Those poor young women in the last video. I can't imagine such terror. Prayers for all of them.
Patriot act. Biggest āfreedomā grab.
Israel, or what would soon become Israel brought to the world the modern form of terrorism. No one remembers or knows of the Irgun and Stern gangs, the bombing of the King David Hotel and Deir Yassin massacre. They have been killing Arabs and Christians for decades and they are never held to account. Or how they almost dragged the US into war in the middle east much sooner than Gulf war1 when they sank the USS Liberty, documentaries are still available online. It's funny, I always hear that Israel is our greatest ally, but no country has caused so much damage through espionage than them. I guess it's coincidence that the US became so hated when we developed such a good ally in Israel. The dancing Israelis after 9-11 gives an indication of how great an ally they are
The Palestinians were doing the dancing.
That is incorrect. You are referring to the Arab woman showed cheering in celebration. Which, by the way was not even film from the time period of 9-11. I am referring to the 5 or 6 Israeli men recorded in NY/NJ area dancing after the destruction of the towers. Men who it turned out to be mossad. They were detained by the NJ state police. Ultimately they were released from authorities by Chertoff, another Jew. There is video of them on Israeli tv discussing the event and how they were there to document the reaction. Really, and how did you know there was going to be an event to record.
Billy,
There is SO much to all this. Youāre right about Israel. Remember the $2.3 TRILLION Rumsfeld said was āmissingā from the DOD accounts? Who do you think got the money?
Here are a few articles I came across and have been sharing. Just know, after you read them you will never think yourself safe with any government. š
http://israelshamir.net/Contributors/Collateral_Damage_911.pdf
http://www.smoking-mirrors.com/2007/08/dov-zakheim-and-missing-trillions_8010.html
https://rense.com/general75/latest.htm
Hit me up on LinkedIn if you want to discuss. Iāve been getting some very interesting reactions from folks. My LinkedIn link is in my bio. ššŗšø
I mean yeah, who REALLY invented the car-bomb.....?
"No one remembers or knows..."
Betting some of us do.
2 things. When I first heard about the attacks on 9/11 I *knew* it was in inside job. I remember thinking "OH. They're really serious now." I also remembered that that summer, a few months before it happened, the movie Pearl Harbor came out. I remember thinking, huh, it's not a 50 year anniversary or anything, so...why now? I think they came out with Pearl Harbor a few months prior to 9/11 to prime people for it emotionally.
When I saw the buildings free fall - I knew it was a controlled demolition and said so to those watching with me on TV. I studied physics and it just didn't seem right.
Right?! Building 7 wasnāt just a controlled demolition....it was a really GOOD one! The same could be said for the twin towers as well....
It pains me to hear clueless Americans droning on about 911 as they adhere to the official conspiracy theory, which is so full of holes its laughable.
Chevrus,
It was BEYOND an inside job....check this out:
http://israelshamir.net/Contributors/Collateral_Damage_911.pdf
Thanks I will totally check it outā¦
Agree. Jeff, 911 was an inside job. This is a land grab in my opinion. No one was caught off guard except the people that they were willing to let die.
Basically agree. And very slickly done.
I am still trying to figure out the qui bono aspect. For example, it well may be a convenient diversionary way to an off ramp for a failed Project Ukraine.
The big stand out was the imagery, the visuals ... all really slick, seemingly prepackage and ready to go, and designed to push all the right emotional buttons. Meanwhile, everything in the United States still running to crap.
My guess: global war was always the plan to cover up the millions of covid bioweapon deaths. Three pronged: cover those up, depopulate and make a shit ton of money doing so.
I can't figure it all out. One part of me says that 'they' will trip themselves up because this is usually what happens to people who think that they are light years more clever than anybody else. Another part of me says that they will just keep inventing more viruses, unleashing them and blame it on just another one of those natural 'acts of God.'
And then again, 'they' have a million ways of 'injecting death' ... food supply, air, water. And who know who many millions/billions are now sterile. Hard to tell and we have only seen the tip of the iceberg so far.
Today, De Wife read that all 'the variants' are now unnatural ancestry viruses lab manufactured.
We gave Iran billions. Israel attacks Iran. Iranās allies, Russia and China join the fray. WWL begins
I was thinking on the way to work this morning, whether Israel or US intelligence knew or not, the response will be the same: We didn't have enough power to stop this from happening, therefore you must give us more power so we can protect you in the future.
It's the exact same playbook they used after 9/11. If these attacks aren't coordinated, the responses certainly are.
1) Did you notice that all the visuals for this Israeli attack thing were totally prepacked, ready to go and visually designed to push all our ever buttons. Just the same as with Warpspeed, the millions of masks and face shields ... all ready prepositioned and ready to go upon launch.
2) As an addition to your other post: Israel is the institution of the catholic universal Christian Church established of Christ. Thus, we are not Judeo-Christians. We are Christian ... or not at all.
Remember the Judaizer fracas. The attempt of the Jews to co-opt and move in on the new Christian faith? The term Judeo-Christian is simply a new incarnation of the same thing ... and this term of endearment as subterfuge has worked its purpose remarkably well.
Also, I notice the word 'deo' in the midst of 'Judeo-Christian'. I often wonder about things like this because I know that The Snakes are ever so slick in their evil-doing and getting their jollies off at our expense. But I digress. And certainly just a minor note.
In a nut shell: we are not be a divided house. And therefore, the secular state, not any of them, ever trumps our allegiance sole to God the Father. We do not chose between the twain, one or the other.
Yes Matt, 9/11 was an inside job, period, end of story. https://www0.ae911truth.org/ explains how steel girder buildings don't free fall in their own footprints. What exactly happened to building 7, not hit by anything, yet free fell into its own footprint? What other steel girder building in history has fallen into its own footprint as a result of fire? How did barely trained pilots fly jumbo jets perfectly into the Pentagon office looking into the trillions gone missing in their budget as announced by Rumsfeld on 9/10? Why were all cameras surrounding the Pentagon confiscated by the FBI minutes after the "crash"? Where were our fighter interceptors? Why was Dick Cheney directing NORAD operations from the basement of the White House as per testimony before the US House of Representatives. Where was the rubble of the jet that crashed in Pennsylvania? Jet engines don't just disintegrate, yet none were found either at the Pentagon or in Pennsylvania.
If someone wrote a detective novel about this event it would have to be 10,000 pages long because there's so many clues to present.
https://loosechange911.com/ is a primer for the yet uninformed.
One reason: Unable to pass the "Patriot" Act in many tries, it sailed right through Congress after the 9/11 false flag operation. Many other reasons.
When you're done looking behind the curtain at 9/11, look again at the Oklahoma City bombing. It's been going on for a long time, folks, right under our noses.
Nailed it!!!!!
Exactly.
Matt,
I couldnāt agree more!
I came across this well researched article that goes even further than you can imagine with why 9/11 took place.
Check this out:
http://israelshamir.net/Contributors/Collateral_Damage_911.pdf
This was a good read for those not in the know yet...
https://open.substack.com/pub/unbekoming/p/understanding-false-flags?r=u16ew&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
I just wanna jump in and say ....Building 6, Customs House....hallowed pout from the inside with the roof blown clean off....
If the 2000 election was stolen by the Republicans who then, I assume you're saying, perpetrated 9/11 to somehow cover it up why haven't the Democrats been screaming that from the rooftops? They would have eliminated the GOP. Also, if the seemingly inept Republicans were actually somehow able to pull all of that off, why in the world would they turn around and let the Democrats retake the presidency with Obama? Are you saying they pulled that off and then rested on their laurels? You're gonna have to make that make sense. Cause it doesn't.
They are ALL on the same side ā¦ they are ALL uniparty globalists.
Two sides of the same deep state globalist coin!
Jason,
Itās not what you think. What we see is all surface.
Check out this article:
http://israelshamir.net/Contributors/Collateral_Damage_911.pdf
Well, that's pretty long so I can't comment on it now. However, I will read it. I'm always searching for truth. Thanks.
Uniparty. Election rigging has nothing to do with party affiliation. Ask yourself, as many times as Hillary and all the dems claimed 2016 election tampering, why didnāt they ever ask for a recount or go to the courts?
9/11 wasnāt used to cover up 2000 election. It was to start a highly profitable war on terror and invade multiple countries and make trillions in profits and to benefit Israel
One will never figure this out by using our logic. The game (Uni-Party, plus real factionalism) is intrinsically illogical. It is detached from the natural human requirements of life. One cannot find sense in nonsense. And nonsense is not to say what is going on not real.
The entire 9.11 narrative makes no sense. I came to my senses when someone asked me about flying into a building. I am a very good pilot (single engine and sailplanes)and I realized that 1. I could not have driven such a plane traveling at high speed into a building. Think three dimensionally. This is not an easy thing to do. I would be too far "behind the curve". The plane had to be programmed. 2. My understanding is that the "hijackers" were training on 172s and perhaps in a simulator. Advancing from a 172 to a large passenger jet is akin to going from a tricycle to a formula one car. 3. The demolition had to be preplanned for all the obvious reasons. Expert flying skills!šš¤£š¢
AirForce radar numbers exceeded the max speed for the claimed aircraft at the altitude....
Yes there is that tooā¦.
But hey to be fair, there were whatā¦.38 virtual hijack airplanes in the air that morning? Filed under āDrill gone Liveāā¦.
Several of the 911 ā pilotsā trained right here in Sunny Venice , Florida at a tiny municipal airport! No 767s landing š¬ here!
Missile. Who's got those, I wonder?
We had a good discussion in the comments on Saturday regarding Protestant Dispensationalist theology (God's restoration of Israel and end times prophesy) and how much that drove the seeming rabid war-mongering of some US politicians (e.g. Pompeo, Pence, GW Bush). I wondered how Dispensationalist pastors would respond to this. As if on cue, some of our "pastors" didn't disappoint. See this example, and Greg Locke runs a large suburban megachurch, he's not some Westboro Baptist lunatic.
"Christian preacher Greg Locke calls for Israel to "make the Gaza Strip a parking lot" by next week."
https://twitter.com/Advent1844/status/1711523595858420177
Greq Locke is a religious fanatic driven by dispensationalism taken to an extreme. This zealotry is no different from how the Muslim extremist imams talk. He ignores every passage of the Bible that commands us to treat others as we would like to be treated justified by his end-times obsession with "God's chosen people". How in the world can any Bible-believing Christian defend this? Note also how the congregation claps and cheers like trained seals.
This is despicable and all Christians should be condemning this, Yes Israel has the right to defend itself but "turn Gaza into a parking lot"? Just abhorrent. And note that Locke says this in his comfy suburban church cheering on the death of thousands and thousands of people on the other side of the world.
I don't know if Locke is really this hard-hearted or if he's just been duped and being used by the neocons, but it doesn't make a difference. (Note the Israeli flag on the platform.) This is grotesque. People that can think for themselves should be standing up, condemning him, and walking out, not salivating like Pavlov's dogs.
My pastor (Calvary Chapel, a dispensationalist church as am I) On Sunday mentioned it briefly and asked for the congregation to pray for peace on all sides, but warned us to keep an eye on Israel as God is in control and it features prominently in His plans. That's how a grown-up that loves Jesus and knows his Bible discusses this. Not wild-eyed cheering for the wholesale slaughter of fellow humans.
Ours told us simply to pray for all the innocents in this and beware of anyone trying to get us to hate entire groups of people.
Do you have sermons on line? My Methodist church is fully dumbed down. Pablum sermons. Just old people like me there. I left September 2021 and only recently returned. 12 oldsters were there Sunday. Only kids were the pastors kids. Sunday school kids are dropped off by parents who do not stay for church. What does that say to their kids? Iām almost done now again. Surrounded by libs. Pastor too.
I am questioning too. I do want to belong to a faith community as I believe that Jesus calls us to be in community - "your are now Peter and on this rock I build my church" while at the same time he also chastised those who were the 'church leaders' of the day. So we have to discern which of those are led by a 'pit of vipers' and those led by 'the rock'. We go to 2 churches every Sunday - I am Catholic and my husband is Methodist, been doing it this way for 33 years; we are both stubborn. But both same at this point - pablum, ignoring all that is going on in the world. Catholic church aligned with the globalists. Like to say I am an adherent to the Catholic faith, not the church, but still, the dissonance is starting to get to me. Methodist pastor is a conservative, but weak, half the congregation is liberal so he tries to avoid the elephants in the room, and population in the pews is thinning. Tire kickers coming in every week, but most don't come back. I think there are a lot of us 'searchers' out there.
I'm biased as I've been attending Calvary Chapel for thirty years and just loved the late Pastor Chuck Smith. Some of the churches have had problems of late (since Chuck's passing), IMO as a result of trying to pander to the world. But most are solid, and are built on Pastor's Chuck's chapter by chapter, verse by verse expository teaching. This forces pastors to teach on uncomfortable subjects even if they don't want to.
Here are a few good ones, all have services online and archived messages:
https://calvarycch.org/ (Jack Hibbs)
https://cornerstonechapel.net/hello/ (Gary Hammerick)
https://www.ccmerrittisland.org/ (Malcolm Wild)
https://ccsouthbay.org/ (Chet Lowe)
There's lots of other great ones out there but these are ones I have some sort of connection to.
And of course you can't go wrong with good, old-fashioned non-CC stalwarts like John MacArthur and Voddie Baucham. These guys know the Bible inside and out, and aren't afraid to teach it.
https://www.gracechurch.org/
https://www.voddiebaucham.org/
Sometimes it's uncomfortable and I'll admit to squirming in the pews on occasion when being convicted by God's Word. But truth has a way of doing that.
Thanks I will check them out. I think the root of the challenge is just that - how to balance the 'concerns of the world' with the Word of God. I have friends who refuse to get involved with anything political, and say the answer is to spend time in prayer and reading the bible. But then I am like, Faith without works is dead. Being in the world, but not of this world is a great tightrope act.
Eric Metaxes had a great comment on this on a conversation with Pastor Jack Hibbs. He said, "If you are sitting in a room and hear someone in the next room being murdered and screaming in agony, are you supposed to pray about it or take action?"
Not everything is that black and white unfortunately, but clearly there are cases where we are compelled to take direct action. Doing so though often brings persecution, which many people aren't willing to risk.
Have to wonder if fear of being called out is not the real motivation for not taking a stand, now that you mention it. The left is vicious, know several friends they have attempted to get fired, screen shotting social media posts or taking video of them talking at an event and send to their employers. Lib local bloggers and podcasters call us all kinds of -ists, etc. I don't care, and I'm self employed. Yes, lost some friends, that hurt for a while, but made new ones. With spines and brains. Life goes on.
I first heard of Voddie Baucham on Allie Beth Stuckeyās āRelatableā podcast. He is an outstanding pastor and an expert on our godless culture and said that he made his children read books from the likes of Marx, and Hitler so that they can understand how people of similar ilk think.
Our propagandist, public schools have not taught history properly and thus history is repeating itself. Note the pic of the alphabet crowd cheering for Palestine. Talk about a Grand Canyon sized gap in education.
Iām blessed to be in a non-denominational church with a strong, Jesus loving, conservative pastor that teaches solid Biblical principles in Massachusetts of all places! He just taught this past Sunday that nothing will change the Lordās will and purpose. We should absolutely pray for peace but ultimately, HIS will be done.
Huge Voddie Baucham fan here.
Thank you, Jeff. I need The Word from someplaceāeven online.
I second Jack Hibbs. Many Catholics have found their way to Calvary Chapel Chino Hills and have not looked back.
Donna, I don't get pablum in my Traditional Latin Mass parish (FSSP), or woke sermons. Weāre there to worship God as our ancestors did. Our parish has tripled since covid; the majority are large young families. Makes oneās heart sing.
Iāve considered going to catholic services in town but I need to research it. I live in a small rural city. Not much choice.
I pray you find a reverent service.
Our pastor and his wife flew home from a two week sojourn in the Middle East on Saturday. They had been in Jerusalem earlier in the week, but flew home from Athens. He asked us to pray for Israel, but also the Palestinians on the Gaza Strip. There are still many missionaries working all over the Middle East.
Both groups of people led by those who want nothing to do with 'coexisting'.
Hi there Donna, please consider that JESUS is the rock that his church is built on, not Peter....
Jesus said (Matthew 16:18): "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
If Jesus meant Peter was the rock, wouldn't He have said "...and upon YOUR rock I will build my church;..."?
Think of how an actual conversation goes- imagine Jesus pointed at Peter when He said "...thou art Peter", and then pointed at or placed His hand on His OWN chest and said "upon this rock I will build my church..."
Please consider that just 3 verses later in Matthew 16:23, Jesus calls Peter Satan: "But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men."
If Peter was really the rock, would Jesus have called Peter Satan?
Think of all the scriptures which point to Jesus as the rock, the cornerstone. Jesus and the epistle writers many times quoted Psalm 118:22 ("The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.").
In Romans 9:33 Paul quotes Isaiah 8:14 when talking about Jesus: "And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem."
Scripture says in 1 Cor 3:9-11 who the church is built on: "For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building. According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ."
I leave you with Peter's own words.
Peter's first epistle is full of this language of foundational rocks and cornerstones, and he is always talking about Jesus and not himself.
I'd like you to consider, in Peterās mind, when Jesus said, āOn this rock I will build my churchā
- Did Peter end up thinking Jesus was talking about Peter or Jesus?
1 Peter 2: 4-8: "To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed."
Last note:
In Acts 17:11 we read of the "more noble" people in Berea who were noble because they "searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
They didn't just take what others claimed at face value. Every day they compared it to scripture:
"These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
Thank you for your consideration :-)
Nicely said and thought provoking. And as I read your words, certainly of Christ this rock and not of Peter, a man ... and a man not the Lamb of God the perfect sacrifice. And then the first four Gospels ... solely about Lord Jesus. And nearly all referrals of Paul and the rest pointing to only Jesus.
And so, it must be as you say. Or else the entire edifice topples. And most excellent! Indeed Treat of the Day!
Thank you for your kind words!
Thank you - yes, Peter was called 'Satan', he also denied Christ 3 times. It's a complicated legacy, but proof that through imperfect people, God still accomplishes great things. David, Moses, all of the apostles stumbled at times. The point I was trying to make was not so much about Peter but about 'my church'. As we are called to be in communion with Him. Yes we need to search the scriptures, and to know Truth. But I also think that this was not intended to be a solo mission. We can lift each other up just as we can be dragged down.
Visit a PCA church. You may be pleasantly surprised, and welcomed.
For online preaching that is top rank and Biblically accurate, search out Voddie Baucham - a Baptist now holding a pulpit in Zambia following a long USA stay.
But use discernment regarding PCA churches, since they vary widely and there is yet another pending split in that denomination - this time over those who accept active homosexuals as church officers and pastors and those who don't. The last one was over a less easily explained doctrinal difference that goes by the name Federal Vision. Some, maybe many, PCA churches are still okay, and there is at least some organized counter-attack by the traditionalists (as there was the first time, too). The Orthodox Presbyterian Church has none of those problems.
Spot-on, all of your comments. There's another group of folks who "identify" as homosexuals but claim celibacy - "Side B Christians" - whose inroads were held in check at the last national PCA general assembly.
These folks already precipitated one major division in the demonination, and the PC(USA) was formed for them and their fellow liberal travelers. Why can't they just join a PC(USA) church? I'll answer my own question: For the same reason the homosexuals seeking a wedding cake passed by a dozen willing bakeries until they found a bakery owned by Bible-believers ... and on that hill they planted their flag and launched a thousand lawsuits.
Leave no rock unturned, leave no soul in peace with God until all knees have been forced to bow.
Same thing is going on in the LCMS, a conservative Bible-believing Lutheran denomination. Ever notice how these people don't just split off and form their own denomination anymore? They attempt to subvert and take control of existing conservative denominations. A lot of this is explained by the money IMO, as things like church real estate, buildings, and bible colleges are valuable.
The money, and the "no stone left unturned" approach to other folks.
How many bakeries did the homosexuals in search of a wedding cake drive by until they found one owned by Bible-believers? And when they did, there they planted their pride flag and launched a thousand lawsuits. None shall know peace until every knee bows: Saul Alinsky (and Barry Soetero).
Exactly! I have said this for years, starting the FVers, who split our local, particular, church. Why not go to a denomination that agrees with you instead of creating division? Or start a new one? Because of sinful, fallen human nature and not following the command to love one's neighbor as oneself.
I, too, adhere to my Catholic faith. I love our faith beyond telling. The Church is run by men so thatās that. I follow some very courageous priests who speak truth. Others are very disappointing. We live behind enemy lines, and Iām not talking about man-made borders. My faith in God- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is my rock. This means I can live in peace despite the absolute chaos. God bless you!
True. We are not allowed to talk about politics even tho politics is fueling much of this evil. The church I see is not preparing us at all for whatās coming and will be like the bridal attendants in the Bible who will not be prepared for the bridegrooms arrival. I used that analogy once to a couple of church members and crickets with blank looks. We will never know when, but we should always be prepared. Collapse is going on all around us. They know it. The elephant in the room is the devil and his world now. We canāt talk about this either. New pastors at my church are told to not discuss Satan at all. I canāt even remember a sermon on spiritual armor. Iāve given this church some time. I feel nor sense any leading. Itās too hidebound and we got an exhortation to get the jabs!!
Well, to my hubby's Methodist pastor's credit, his current sermon series is on the armor of God, and talking about the spiritual battle in our world today. But he ties it into non political themes - like parents fighting at kids' sporting events, leaving the elephant out of it. And my pastor preached on Sunday about the 'brood of vipers' and how people can be misled. But again, not making the tie to what is going out 'out there'. I can connect the dots, but willing to bet the clueless did not.
That darn law that churches cannot talk politics or they lose tax exempt status is certainly part and parcel of this whole thing. Free speech? Ha. Churches chose mammon. Godless libs will go after a church as fast as you can say āRobert Petersā
There is no truth to that myth. If a church feels threatened by free speech issues, they can contact Alliance Defending Freedom, Pacific Justice Institute, or other legal orgs that defend the faith . There is no reason for any church to use that excuse.
I'm guessing that MANY, MANY of them may not know that, or even if they do, don't want the trouble of fighting it.
Sounds good. But with the pablum being served up around me, I doubt they would rouse themselves to complain, if they even thought to tell us the truth of NOW. Iām looking for a church that would be on fire enough to push back. None pushed back on lockdowns nor did mine when the district poached our fine young pastor right when we opened again after a year utterly closed down. Our congregation was destroyed with nary a mew from leadership. They all just bowed to human authority. Thatās when I left. Unfortunately Iām leaving again. We have a young Korean and this is his first English speaking congregation. Mostly old folks like me. Some donāt understand his accent. They sound like seminary sermons IMHO. I have to fight to stay focused. on sermons. The congregation has aged out and there are not enough left to do the community outreach anymore. Iām so sad plus just a bit angry. Even the small womenās Bible study shuts me down if I want to get to the bottom of the disaster going on around us so we can do something together to push back. To seek God for strength. I absolutely know I must do more and praying where God wants me to do that. Blessings, TB
Yes, they are scared of losing tax exempt status, yet are fond of preaching 'fear not'.
Can there be a Christianity without an application unto the world we inhabit? And might silent crickets be not the perfect congregation for the Synagogues of Satan? And not discuss Satan is to not discuss right and wrong ... and then what is the point. They also do not ever preach from the Confessions of Faith and what they say.
Why I am going to find another congregation.
Please go to rockharborchurch.net as they have a church locator link. The approved churches must pass rigorous biblical standards to be recommended. Not every great church is listed here, but it may help you find something in your area. I have used this info while traveling with great results! Thankfully we have 2-3 excellent churches in our area that are still teaching the Bible, no matter the difficulty of the topic.
"Our church offers what people need instead of what they think they want." Love it!
Online solid teaching can be had from Jack Hibbs, Tom Hughes, John Haller, Brandon Holthaus, Billy Crone, and Jeff Schreve to name just a few ā¤ļø
I listen to Jack Hibbs every Wednesday & Sunday. Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills. And I live in Maine.
& old Derek Prince too
Very interesting. Echos my observations as well.
my brother's methodist church in a nutshell. im pretty sure God is ok with nonchurch attending christians, or any other tenet that pretty much says " be good". which obviously excludes the false ones like islam.
You describe our local Methodist church, as told to me by a now-former longtime member.
I had a friend at the time on 9/11 who was from NYC and lost people as a result of it. He was livid and said he wanted to "lay a nuclear carpet across the entire middle east" and got really graphic with what he wanted to do to the terrorists themselves - I will not repeat it. I said the entire middle east was not responsible for that and a lot of people would be killed who didn't deserve it. He said yeah, and a h-ll of a lot of people were killed on 9/11 that didn't deserve it, either. I understand the rage, but do not agree.
On an absolutely unrelated note, totally off topic - if you want to clear your lungs and sinuses quickly, chop up a Habanero pepper. You don't have to eat or cook with it. Just chop it up. An hour later, my eyes are still watering, my nose is still burning and my lungs are still trying to clear themselves. Have a cold or "covid"? This will likely work to clear breathing, maybe a bit too well.
No harm in eating it or its relatives!
I love hot peppers. This little fella was from my garden. I just had nooooooo idea :) I fully intend to harvest and use all of them, this time being prepared. No wonder the wildlife didn't touch that plant!
Ditto. Probably too much so in my case. My local Thai place (with authentic owners) even think I'm unwell. I'm pretty sure they peek through the kitchen windows to watch me eat and sweat. They've brought out raw ghost peppers knowing I'll snack on them.
My take on it is that there aren't many from their native or neighboring countries that have cardiovascular problems or are obese, and spice is endemic over there. Not terribly scientific but works for me!
Ah but getting people to hate those that physically or tribally resemble the perceived wrongdoers is the way to mass behavioral engineer ethnic cleansing pogroms. And funny enough, the usual suspects are fomenting ārevenge politicsā right here in the USA, and on pretty much ALL fronts. Things may ya go hmmmmmm...
Any chance you watch Gary Hammerick? Virginia? Thatās who we watch and he is spot on.
He's great and I'll note, another old-school Calvary Chapel pastor.
Pastors have to teach the whole counsel of God (the entire Bible), it keeps them honest as they are only human after all. These pastors that pick and choose passages are a huge red flag. You can twist scripture to justify just about any insane belief if you try hard enough.
100% 100%
People need to know their Bibles! Otherwise they will be led astray by getting their ears tickled. Iām amazed at how many āChristiansā donāt know how to interpret the Bible in the context of the entire Bible. Or simply donāt realize they need to. Itās becoming ever more important in the days we are in and headed towards. We watch Cornerstone online because we canāt find a local church to preach/teach the whole counsel of Gods word. Itās sad, really.
Yup. I was incredibly blessed that I recommitted my life to Christ at Calvary Chapel Merritt Island back in the 90's and expository teaching is all I've ever known since then. (Aside from being raised Catholic which I'm grateful for as it planted those seeds. CC is filled with former Catholics.)
One thing I've found is that a church doesn't have a "what we believe" statement prominently featured on it's website, or if those beliefs are watered down to platitudes, then it's probably not a Bible-believing expository church. Even worse, some are outright heretical in denying the plain language of God's Word.
So on one hand you have churches that fly rainbow flags and on the other there are churches that hide what the believe so they won't scare people off. Although they are heretics I actually respect the chutzpah of the rainbow flag churches more than the cowardly ones. Remember Jesus' words "So, because you are lukewarmāneither hot nor coldāI am about to spit you out of my mouth" (Rev 3:16).
Good churches are out there, but you have to look for them.
"Good churches are out there, but you have to look for them."
Amos 8:11 (ESV)
āBehold, the days are coming,ā declares the Lord God, āwhen I will send a famine on the landā not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord."
I completely agree that good churches are out there. I belonged to the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod for all of my almost 70 years. 3 years ago I also started attending a Pentecostal country church. They believe in the whole Bible, and we are encouraged to read it. They believe in speaking in tongues. I never have and donāt think I ever will, but it is not part of their regular service. They are some of the most welcoming people I have ever met. The pastor does weekly Bible studies and his messages are great. We never know when and where he might go off topic a bit but itās always good. This church started a Spanish speaking church as they took in some Latin American refugees and encouraged them to start a missionary church. They also have a large motorcycle group that has started coming. Something to see.
I have learned more about Martin Luther, the founder of the Lutheran Church from the Pentecostal Church than I ever have from my home Lutheran Church. My husband will not leave the Lutheran Church and I still attend with him. They have a terrific day school that I volunteer in. The Missouri Synod is moving more towards the traditional Catholic Church, which is funny as when I was a teenager, Catholic and Lutherans were told not to date each other. To marry was to be in a mixed marriage. Now they are going very traditional, adding divine service sacraments and dusting off little used liturgical additions. The sermons are canned and I know exactly what I will get in every service. Current events are never addressed and those going against the church are not endorsed but mainly ignored. Bible reading is not encouraged though it is not discouraged either. I have now come to realize, this isnāt enough for me, but for generations it was.
I have no problem with being faithful and having a foot in each church.
My kids attend(ed) an LCMS high school and it was truly an answer to prayer. Once it became clear we had to *immediately* pull our kids from public schools we started looking around. I didn't know anything about LCMS other than they were better than the heretics in the ELCA. (And their teaching regarding sexuality and gender truly is heretical.)
The school principal is a serious man of God who tests everything against scripture. Not only that, he sent this out on Friday in regards to Columbus Day:
"There is no school Monday, October 9th in recognition of Columbus Day. We're thankful that the Lord used Christopher Columbus to help bring the Gospel to the New World and the eventual many other blessings of European civilization which came to the land we now call home."
Based. I had jokingly told him the the thing I was most worried about the school teaching my kids was amillennialism (as opposed to the homosexual agenda they'd be taught at public school).
So we have our feet in both worlds too with my kids at the LCMS school and my wife now on staff teaching there. Our home church is Calvary Chapel. It's been great as our church even lent the school outdoor tents to get around the mask mandate back when it was in force. Amazing what Christians can do together when they focus on the essentials of the faith rather than non-essential esoteric doctrines.
Thank you for this. Sometimes we tend to feel separated if we do something different. Covid drove me out of my comfort zone and into a new one. I now look to new churches to attend when I am away from home. I have had some truly amazing experiences and being led in new directions.
Growing up the churches were a vital part of the community. Pastors served on school boards and were visible at the town functions. They lived in parsonages right next door. That has gone away. The present pastor, who has been here over 10 years, lives 15 minutes away in a school district next door to the one the church is in. He does not engage with the community on a local level and keeps himself and his church away from anything political. The day school keeps our church alive. It is the hope to keep young families in the church. I do not believe in gimmicks to get the younger generations back in church, but I also know if we are not welcoming to new ideas and try to stay closeted away, our church will not survive.
I am very excited about Christian high schools and I do believe the LCMS has done some wonderful work. May they continue. And I agree fully about the ELCA. The media is more than happy to attach their teachings to every Lutheran Church. Sometimes I think staying out of the fray of the political realm is the way to go. Have a blessed new day.
I just found him!! Heās amazing!!
But note the Islami-cysts cheering globally (same as 9-11) as if murder of civilians is winning an Olympic medal? How much more raw material is now being placed for this type thing ALL OVER the World, India, Africa, Whoever wants to conduct this shit can pretty much do it wherever and find "soldiers" who'll conveniently know very little and mostly be wiped out afterward
I was thinking of the Dancing Israelis
missed all of that, Maybe the anti-Zionists could propose to relocate Israel to Cyprus (ending the feuding there) and a Free Palestine would flourish about as well as Lebanon has been.
I met Greg Locke in December of 2020 when he was part of the Save the Election bus tour funded by Mike Lindell. My friend and I had our picture taken with him. He was a polite, well spoken young man. His speech was in support of Trump and was good. He attended J6. Somewhere after that he denounced Trump and went many different directions. I used to listen to his sermons online, but havenāt for over a year.
Yes, he may be a great guy in person, I've never met him and did feel a little guilty in posting what I did.
That being said, the clip speaks for itself as cheering for the deaths of thousands of people is abhorrent under any circumstances. What is even more disturbing is how the congregation responded.
Pastors have a tremendous responsibility to teach God's Word and be good shepherds of His flock. I would not want to answer to Jesus for that clip.
Do you happen to attend Calvary Church of Pasadena?
An October surprise, but a year before I expected it. The global deep state warmongers must want all-out war asap, to usher in total enslavement of the nations, since it didn't work with Ukraine or their vaccine genocide.
I just keep in mind, we are the majority, not them.
Yes, but there are still so many sleeping.
I think this situation will be used by the Democrats to replace Biden.
Hereās a thought: Due to the massive failure on all front, they decided to pull The Sampson Option. If we caint have it nobody can, so bring down the temple on our collective heads they will.
Maybe, just maybe, there was no āintelligence failureā. Maybe, just maybe they knew. And they let them in. Donāt forget, BN is still facing corruption charges. And internal politics in Israel are as bad, or worse, than in the US. And BN has turned hard to the right since the election. It sure wouldnāt be the first time a āleaderā has sacrificed his own people, and took a country to war, to save his own skin.
Iāll take Pearl Harbor for 2000, Alec.
Or to line his and friendsā pockets. War is a very costly affair for most of us, but a very profitable one for others.
IMO it's too early to take anything off the table yet, from inside-job to cyber-hack against alerting systems, to... whatever. But it's also a mistake to be too quick in dismissing the power of incompetence. Time will tell.
Moody,
It certainly wouldnāt be the first time. Our leaders do it here - a lot!
I believe they in fact did know and waited. Isnāt that so disgusting?!
If you think thatās bad, read this about our own government:
http://israelshamir.net/Contributors/Collateral_Damage_911.pdf
Most of your readers will recognize this but it bears repeating (Isaiah 5:20): "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil..." Maybe more people will start reading the Bible. What a great result that would be to this horrible mess.
I'm glad to see Ron DeSantis talking about the invaders. It's crazy how Army/Navy vets are being screwed over by... the new invander army literally getting cozy hotel accomodations.
I've seen reports these illegals get a $1200 monthly check and other benefits.
I would love to see a full accounting of what is involved financially with each of the "newcomers" coming into our country - has anyone done this?
$2200 is the figure I've heard two times now. When social security recipients are expected to live on $1300 if they're lucky.
And Lahaina disaster victims are expected to rebuild with 700.
Iām on ssi disability, 805$ a month after they take medical $. Thankful but It doesnāt cover my autoimmune issues medical expenses.
Why canāt they move the game somewhere else? Say Florida? Iām sure Ron DeSantis would help them do it.
And why are we playing games while an invasion is underway?
Bread and circusesā¦ š
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I thought it was $2,200. Maybe thatās for a family.
Iām guessing free food, housing, iPhones, medical care.
And they are laughing all the way to the bank.
BFM,
I heard itās more like $2,200 - basic economic income. But, weāll never truly know.
The people that defended our nation need to come first. I donāt know how these āleadersā live with themselves! š¤¬
But the Army/Navy game isnāt until December. Why are they talking about āno vacancyā now?
Is it because they're cancelling the reservations now?
Still love reading my only news every day, Jeff! Thanks again and again!
Great timing- our local We the People group featured a group who spoke from the Missouri Militia: https://www.missourimilitia.com/ They are an active group and hold joint training exercises several times a year, focus on unconventional warfare tactics and their aim is to serve as a force multiplier to backstop the national guard in times of disaster or emergency. Thankful for these men who have stepped up to serve our country.
Dear Jeff, I would like to humbly suggest that it might be a good idea for everyone to look into where your states national guard troops are at right now. Are they stationed and on alert protecting our boarders or are they overseas for some undisclosed mission? (Maybe to support our weakening military or helping to add to a āshow of forceā in joint exercise w other countries in concerning regions of the globe?). Are they anywhere but home protecting our boarders since this current escalation of wars and rumors of wars? (Not even talking about making a stand against the invasion of military age men flooding across our boarders; oh no that is apparently unthinkable) Our states National Guardsmen are our Minutemen - it is what they were created from and are supposed always prepared to fulfill now. Each branch of service (army, airforce, etc) has their own National guardsmen in each state. In recent years, very surprised to discover that they can be deployed overseas even if they do not volunteer for it - used to think our Natl Guard soldiers had to volunteer for overseas deployment. It would be very educational and eye opening for a sharp investigative reporter to find out how many are actually āmission readyā in our states or are they deployed outside of our boarders? Would it be wise to call our state-legislatures (governors offices?) and ask what is our states guards mission readiness - a roll call of soldiers (and military equipment) and where they are located NOW?
That might be educational enough but what if those numbers where compared to the numbers to say, 5-6 years ago prior to Covid- ultra-woke ideology infiltration. Hmmm...š¤
Does James Okeefe read C&C? š¤
Also, how many of those soldiers who are in still stationed in states are actually mission ready or out because they are having myocarditis issues or trans-surgeries or some other medical or psych issues, repeated Covid or simply overweight because they keep lowering the bar for physical fitness? How many in your state took an earlier than planed retirement or were forced out during jab-mandates. Hmmm....š¤
Thanks Donna, Iām on it.
"When you think about it, the two attacks are indeed oddly similar in many ways. Right-from-the-same playbook similar. Same bad guys. Same use of low-tech techniques. Both surprise attacks. Both massive, inexplicable intelligence failures. There are profound similarities between the two eventsā inflammatory, horrifying media imagery and righteous anger from the top."
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Thank you for this! I said the exact same thing as well. Same playbook, different time eras. Hopefully we've learned our lesson from the first time around:
https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/we-are-in-a-narrative-war
History repeating itself as much as this saying repeats over and over again.
I don't consider the Israel invasion low-tech, with possibly disabling Iron Dome and the new use of drones.
hate that i am thinking this, butā¦could the billions Biden gave in tradeā¦could that have been instead a payment for iran to sponsor the israeli attack and cause a global distraction from his failures and his administrationās tactic to fudge his crimes, the 2024 election, and beyond? 10 years ago i could not have conjured this, but nowā¦
A very rational and reasonable hypothesis...and next Aug/Sep, Taiwan military action...
I was wondering that myself
Looks like I was right yesterday when somebody asked "who done it?' in the Israel attacks. Fulford just dropped, and he too says it was Bibi in another satanic sacrifice FF to draw attention away from him, the Ukraine failure, and further purge the Palestinians prior to their attempted shift in KZ homelands from Israel to the Ukraine. For what it's worth, I also read somewhere years ago that just as the CIA created ISIS to be their boogeyman, Israel created Hamas.
An excerpt:
Here is the real story of what happened behind the scenes according to Mossad, MI6 and Russian FSB sources.
The head of MI6, who happens to be Jewish, said āThe KM have always used the Jewish people and Judaism as a human shield for their satanic and nefarious purposes. They are a deeply rotten, well-known and well hated bunch of creeps. We went on false flag footing nearly instantly after hearing about it.ā
Mossad sources agreed noting the Gaza Strip and West Bank were so thoroughly monitored by the Israelis that not even a grain of rice can enter there without them knowing about it. In other words, the massive attack on Israel by Hamas had to have been orchestrated by Netanyahu and his minions.
And just like after 911, the country will forget his corruption, unite, give him unprecedented powers, and allow their country to become even more of a police state than it already is.
I'm listening to CSPAN washington journal and on twitter, and there isn't a whole lot of sympathy for Israel, not even from the Republican line. The mentality from the GOP is essentially 'live by the sword, die by the sword'.
Body Language - Netanyahu declares war against Hamas: https://bitchute.com/video/pYPabQBIedtu [7:04mins]
So important Tritorch
"I urge all citizens o adhere strictly to the IDF directives".. sound familiar. He once said that after they finish looting the USA of all its assets, he doesn't care if it dries up and blows away.
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Thanks for the link, interesting.
"Her boyfriend is moving out of their shared home because he doesnāt want to risk exposing her to another infection."
Oh hon - is that what he told you? Looks like there are Fifty-ONE Ways to Leave Your Lover.
āJust tell her your sick Rick
Sheāll know what itās like Mike
Now youāre leavinā for herā
šš¤£šš¤£š. Then hop on the bus, Gus!
my first thought exactly
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I do believe , with so much love , caring and kindness the Obamas have , they should open their Cape Cod property to all the illegal aliens . š»šŗšøššš¼š
How about the Hawaii house too?
Chicago loft, Kalorama mansion too?
Not to mention the rest of the Limousine Liberals on Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket.
The governor of Massachusetts asks people willing to house illegal aliens to contact the Brazilian Workers Center. WHAT? I listened to it six times to make sure my ears weren't fooling me. Nope, that's what she said. From the BWC website..."The Brazilian Worker Center is a non-profit organization that capacitates immigrant workers to learn about workplace rights, immigration, and health equity. We empower immigrants with knowledge and skills to promote economic, social, political and racial justice for all."
Why does the government of Massachusetts want you to deal with illegals via an independent non-profit? Because FOIA does not apply to the BWC. They can hide their activities behind the walls of a private non-profit organization, and you can't request real information on what is actually happening. Dare I say, "Democracy dies in darkness."
Perfectly snooped out...the Progs keep their lily white hands clean and make everyone feel so included in the Turbo Transformation
Ugh this is so disgusting š¤¬