The Chat "leak": Seems fairly obvious that this was a clever way to let the EU know what to expect, and what not to demand, from Trump going forward. 100% intentional messaging, IMO.
The Chat "leak": Seems fairly obvious that this was a clever way to let the EU know what to expect, and what not to demand, from Trump going forward. 100% intentional messaging, IMO.
My first reaction was it was done on purpose. Those guys are NOT stupid like bidens DEI hires. Trumps guys do NOT make stupid mistakes like that. The only reason bidens rats are bellowing about it is because they KNOW they are stupid enough themselves to have actually done it. Trumps team knew exactly what they were doing and who they were using to do it. Case in point….he spared no time being unethical and getting his 15 min of fame. Proof in the pudding!
Yes, on purpose and for the reasons you and Roger Beal above state: the EU has to hear this message in as many ways as possible (using that dummy Goldberg was a stroke of genius) and the Trump team is incredibly intelligent. They don't do stupid. Stupid was the last crowd in the White House. Look up 'stupid' in the dictionary and there is a group photo beginning with Biden and ending with the multi-diverse press secretary.
JMHO, but I think Jeff and you are giving the Trump team way too much slack.
If exposing gross incompetence is a "4d Chess Op"... I'll start wearing a tiny hat like the scumbag POS Goldberg does.
Trump could have just had JD come out in a press conference or interview and make the same statements regarding the EU... which DOES need to be slapped down...
Waltz is a neocon clown, and also clearly a tool of the Zionists, as are Rubio, Hegseth and Gorka.
Didn't your mother teach you thst if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything. It would not have as effective if Vance would have just said it in a press conference
Dr. Paul Alexander in his Substack was all riled up about this, and called for Hegseth to be fired. Nonsense. It was either a planned op by the Admin for some reason, or an exposure of either a leaker, or perhaps just the anti-Trump Atlantic who promoted the Russia hoax and others.
Seems to me that Dr. Paul is losing his way now that Covid is in the rear-view mirror. Rant without substance. Addendum: it occurred to me in this morning's thought time that he may be suffering from a very great disappointment, in not having been appointed to any post in this new administration. He may well have expected a position.
It’s funny, last week my conservative parents (early 90’s) were going on and on about the egg scarcities, and prices, as if it was new news! Epoch did a story about egg substitutes that can be used in baking.
Way to scare the old folks Epoch, lol.
They did live through the depression so their fear is understandable, I get it, but why worry them so much?
I used to pay attention to them. They have gone downhill. Always last to break a story -usually up to a week after. And, like you said. The sky is always falling. I don’t consider them credible anymore.
As I understand it, the founding members of The Epoch Times belong to a formerly Republic of China disowned sector of journalists. Perhaps they're actually intelligence agents for the CCP--who really knows these days!
I used to have a paid subscription for Epoch, but canceled about a year ago. I still like their podcast with Jan Jekeliek and they really did platform some censored voices during Covid so they have my respect.
Okay, I feel guilty not looking it up, so let's allow Gab's AI (Arya) to answer this burning question.
Who owns Epoch Times newspaper?
The Epoch Times is owned by Epoch Media Group, a privately held media company based in New York City. The newspaper was founded in 2000 by John Tang and a group of Chinese Americans who were Falun Gong practitioners. Falun Gong is a spiritual practice that has been persecuted by the Chinese government since 1999. The Epoch Times has been known for its critical coverage of the Chinese Communist Party and its human rights abuses, as well as its support for conservative political views in the United States.
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What is Falun Gong?
Falun Gong, also known as Falun Dafa, is a spiritual practice that originated in China in the early 1990s. It was founded by Li Hongzhi and combines elements of Buddhism, Taoism, and traditional Chinese qigong exercises. The practice involves meditation, slow-moving exercises, and the cultivation of three main principles: truthfulness, compassion, and forbearance. Falun Gong gained significant popularity in China during the 1990s, with millions of people practicing it by the end of the decade. However, the Chinese government viewed the movement as a threat to its authority and launched a nationwide crackdown in 1999. Since then, Falun Gong practitioners have faced severe persecution, including imprisonment, torture, forced labor, and even organ harvesting. Despite the persecution, Falun Gong has continued to grow and spread globally, with practitioners in numerous countries around the world. The movement has also been active in raising awareness about human rights abuses in China and advocating for religious freedom.
What caused it to grow in popularity so quickly?
Several factors contributed to the rapid growth of Falun Gong's popularity in China during the 1990s:
Spiritual vacuum: The rapid economic and social changes in China during this period led many people to seek spiritual fulfillment and guidance, which Falun Gong provided through its teachings and practices.
Health benefits: Many practitioners reported improvements in their physical and mental health after taking up the practice, which attracted more people to try it.
Accessibility: Falun Gong's teachings and exercises were easy to learn and practice, making it accessible to a wide range of people from different age groups and social backgrounds.
Word of mouth: The positive experiences of practitioners led to the spread of Falun Gong through word of mouth, with many people introducing the practice to their friends and family members.
Free of charge: Unlike many other qigong practices at the time, Falun Gong was taught free of charge, which made it more attractive and accessible to a larger audience.
Government endorsement: In its early years, Falun Gong received support and endorsements from some Chinese government agencies, which lent credibility to the practice and helped it gain more followers.
However, as the movement grew in size and influence, the Chinese government began to view it as a threat to its authority and launched a crackdown in 1999, leading to the severe persecution of Falun Gong practitioners that continues to this day.
What caused the government to be so afraid?
The Chinese government's fear and subsequent crackdown on Falun Gong can be attributed to several factors:
Rapid growth and popularity: The sheer number of Falun Gong practitioners, estimated to be in the tens of millions, made the Chinese government uneasy about the movement's potential influence on society.
Ideological differences: Falun Gong's teachings emphasize truthfulness, compassion, and forbearance, which are at odds with the Chinese Communist Party's (CCP) atheist and materialist ideology. The CCP perceived Falun Gong as a competing ideology that could undermine its authority.
Organizational structure: Falun Gong's loose, decentralized organization made it difficult for the government to control or monitor its activities, leading to concerns about the group's potential to mobilize and challenge the state.
Public demonstrations: In April 1999, over 10,000 Falun Gong practitioners staged a peaceful demonstration outside the central government compound in Beijing to protest the mistreatment of fellow practitioners. This display of unity and resistance alarmed the Chinese leadership and contributed to their decision to ban the practice.
Historical context: The CCP has a history of suppressing religious and spiritual movements that it perceives as threats to its power, such as the Taiping Rebellion and the Boxer Uprising. The government's response to Falun Gong can be seen as part of this pattern of suppressing potential challenges to its authority.
The Chinese government's fear of Falun Gong led to a brutal crackdown and ongoing persecution, which has been widely condemned by human rights organizations and governments around the world.
When was the Boxer uprising?
The Boxer Uprising, also known as the Boxer Rebellion, took place between 1899 and 1901 in China. It was led by a secret society called the "Righteous and Harmonious Fists," whose members were known as "Boxers" due to their practice of martial arts. The Boxers were motivated by a combination of nationalistic sentiment, anti-foreign sentiment, and a desire to preserve traditional Chinese culture and values. They targeted foreign missionaries, diplomats, and Chinese Christians, as well as foreign-controlled infrastructure such as railways and telegraph lines. The uprising culminated in a siege of the foreign legations in Beijing in the summer of 1900, prompting an international military intervention by a coalition of eight nations, including the United States, Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, and Austria-Hungary. The intervention led to the suppression of the Boxer Uprising and the signing of the Boxer Protocol in 1901, which imposed heavy reparations on China and granted foreign powers additional territorial and commercial concessions.
True but the CCP was not even an entity in 1899.
You are correct. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) was not founded until 1921, more than two decades after the Boxer Uprising. My previous response should have mentioned that the Qing Dynasty, which ruled China at the time of the Boxer Uprising, was responsible for the suppression of the rebellion and the subsequent signing of the Boxer Protocol. The historical context I mentioned earlier referred to the general pattern of Chinese governments suppressing religious and spiritual movements perceived as threats, rather than specifically linking the Boxer Uprising to the CCP. The CCP's crackdown on Falun Gong in 1999 can be seen as part of this broader historical pattern of Chinese authorities responding forcefully to perceived challenges to their power, even though the CCP itself did not exist during the time of the Boxer Uprising.
I really wish (very wishful thinking), people would not throw out these supposed shocking bits, and then leave us hanging. An old writing trick picked up by tv…..cliffhanger. So who does own ET?
I unsubbed a few months ago. The best part was the health and living sections. Then I started doing the Word Finder puzzle. I told my husband..."If I was a spy, I would be looking at all the words in this puzzle as either clues as to what was happening or code words for the future". It was super sus and crazy. Example: (before Butler) Line of Sight, Crowd, Collateral...I wrote down more. And...then I asked him "If you were a foreign power, I really think the best way to infiltrate is to come in as a reasonable news source and start laying on the propaganda." He rolls his eyes quite a bit, but not so often as he used to! So terrible when I have to tell him "I was right!" and do the dance that goes along with it.
I stopped reading Dr Alexander. He is very emotionally driven and reacts to every leftist attack on the Administration. It was exhausting to read his posts. I think he needs to stay in his lane.
I do admire Dr. Alexander for his support of the Canadian Truckers, and his stance against the vaxx mandates in Canada. And he began a list of those people who can be considered guilty of crimes against humanity for Covid and the vaxx. It has over 100 now. He worked in the previous Trump Admin, and I thought he would be hired back by RFK Jr.
And he has always been very vocal about deporting the illegals and criminals.
I just heard that it is possible to discover who put the reporter on the list and when it comes to light, I will not be surprised if it is a democrat name!
Yeah the media is throwing a fit about this, but just shrugged off the incident where the last administration told China about Russian intelligence, to only have China turn around the next day and tell Russia.
Yup, and none of them cared when the "Secretary of State" herself was using a home server with actual classified information, which was completely illegal. And nothing happens to her.
And the liberal on The Five declared this a disaster (I don't remember her exact words). Her more important observation - that no one should ever, ever again mention Hillary's server, as this Signal call was much, much worse than Hillary having a secure (?) server at home.
There is no possible way for Special Access Program materiel to find it's way from a sandboxed SAP facility network to an external server. Not without intent manifest into action. It was "sneaker-netted" to the home server (hand carried.) This cannot happen accidentally. Those networks are supposed to have no internet connection whatsoever, by design.
Oh goodness. That must have been Jessica Tarlov. She is uniquely terrible. I'm not against listening to liberals, but she is particularly stupid and has zero unique analysis of anything.
The point is Fox News is no better than all the rest of the msm. The intent is to get us riled up all day, so nothing productive happens except the days newest screw up or outrage. This was like red meat for the masses on either side, and the American people are back 40 years hating each other.
They are now worse. I only catch Gutfeld on rare occasion only because he and Tyrus haven't sold out yet. Haven't watched the other shows since Bret "I love jelly donuts" Bair was in on calling the 2020 (s)election. Also, it doesn't help having RINO Ryan on the Board of Directors for News Corp... that tells me everything I need to know about them. Plus, firing Tucker didn't do them any favors...
That Jessica numbskull on The Five (Tarlove? Tarluck? Tarbuck? Tar-for-Brains?) is more than I can stand. Her voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard, and her opinions are even more irritating than her voice.
When I used to watch the Five, he was the only one of the "Dems" that had an original thought, or a coherent argument. At least there could be an adult conversation with him on the panel. Beckel too, back in the day. I still rarely agreed with them, but at least they presented an argument with a point.
The media practically celebrated baggies of cocaine in Biden’s White House. They pretended it was a complete mystery even more impossible to solve than UFOs.
As did I. How does someone inadvertently get added to a high level security meeting? Especially one from the Atlantic, known Trump disdainer? It doesn’t happen. I take nothing the msm rails on seriously any more. It’s smoke and mirrors set out by Trump and his merry band while they go about the necessary dirty work of cleaning out the Swamp and I love it.
Not a set up However potentially a globalist loyalist under Waltz. They all have these. 98 percent of all the three letter agencies. This will be a long battle
It’s been five years, and those of us who knew it was organized have long since come to the resolution, it will be a long fight. But as the layers of the rotten onion come off, we are now well aware, and that’s a step forward.
Great point. No one knows how many folks were on the chat, or who had access to the conversation. Mike Waltz and Pete Hegseth are smarter than the average deep state thug and they wouldn't discuss "top secret" info on a Signal text, especially with an idiot from the "Atlantic" on the thread.
If Waltz is as big a neocon as many say on here, (I personally do not know), how did he get past the vetting process. This is just too convenient a screw up. Who next…Tulsi? RFK Jr. Seems to be treading very carefully for now. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck….not anymore. Something is off about this whole thing.
Can’t agree. Everyone seems to forget everything that went on in 2024. After what went on in his last term? Something of this importance would be vetted. Just doesn’t add up.
I come from a farm background and this doesn’t pass the sniff test.
I was watching yesterday when they asked him about the Atlantic article. And I had a strong feeling he knew exactly what they were talking about even though he said he didn’t. It was a perfect opportunity to slam the paper and get the news out to the Europeans.
Yes agree, and Jeff's explanation as usual really does a very good job of "deep dive" into the logic by explaining the full scope of the impact of doing it vs a more "traditional" method of PR used by other WH's in the past. Brilliant, I do agree.
Hoping Jeff sees this and comments on SB196 in the Florida Senate which would require labeling of all of our food products if they contain vaccine or vaccine products. Is this a good thing? I would love a legal analysis! ALSO Can we PLEASE do a multiplier for SHOLDEN DANIELS of TX to UNSEAT Jasmine Crockett. I half think that the crap she's been spewing lately is to cause some kind of reaction from us that would start a fake race riot by paid actors. She's so nasty. And it's an act, because she didn't talk so ghetto until she got into office - she is not, nor ever has been, poor and from the hood. She disgusts me.
Agree completely. This has proven pretty easy to do, because the left falls for anything - they don't do nuance and they take everything at what they think is face value. It is very easy to troll them. And what is extra brilliant about it is, if they can't legally dismantle the lying woke Jacobin commie media, who has been given the right to lie to American citizens, at least they can use their sleazy ways against them.
“The thread is a demonstration of the deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials....right? And both Pete H. and JD Vance have had extensive media experience. They know how to deliver their lines. This was a setup and hyena dude totally fell in.
What in the holy "F" are they communicating on Signal for? It is not a government approved IT system. It is very likely a CIA app although I have no 100% proof of that. It is claimed to be owned by a non-profit to help everyone secure their communications. Sure...
Do I use it? Yes. Do I believe the CIA has hooks in it, yes.
Regardless of whether they did it to prime the press, they should not be using Signal for any official communications.
On the other hand it would be entirely appropriate to use Signal for official seeming communications and to "accidentally" invite a blabbermouth to it.
I don't like duplicitous behavior, under any situation. I'd like to think Trump does not want that kinda crap going on. Hell, they might as well be CIA.
Maybe it wasn't meant to be official and actually meant to be unofficial, wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more. And use Goldberg, the dummy, to be your conduit. He's stupid enough to fall for anything.
Sure I get that, but you simply cannot use un-authorized apps to do official work. Had I or you done that, I or you would have gone to Prison. We either have standards or we do not.
Yes. If it were meant to appear to be official communication, but it wasn't, which would render using Signal to be justified in this case. I'm now wondering if perhaps the real test had more to do with Waltz. Mirrors within mirrors within mirrors.
It would be a sea change if statecraft were not run largely on duplicitous behavior. History shows that the rules that apply to us lowly individuals does not apply to powerful actors. Fwiw, I agree with you in principle.
We must never accept that there is/are laws for us, that are not laws for others. Im so disgusted and sick of the dual status for people. If we are not principled - and acting on those principles, we are no better than the scum we claim to abhor.
Nations can make war and kill soldiers and citizens on both sides; but you and I cannot do that. It's not fair, probably immoral, although there is the Just War Theory, but there it is.
That's not true, it is not an authorized application. But Family Support Groups, etc, may be using it unofficially. Official communications go on the NIPRNET and SIPRNET and the apps formally in place on them
I am certain that people are using Signal, but it is not an authorized application in DOD, nor is it authorized for use by other US Government entities. Perhaps that is precisely why this highest level group (who knows better) was using it to do what you and other's think they were doing.
I could also see where a family support group or some other support group would say this is what we are going to use and the "unit Commander said it was okay". Or maybe some Sergeant's wife said it was okay. And that went through the grapevine and the next thing you know, its now officially paid for and supported by the USG.
Is it better than communicating on a non-encrypted platform like google? Yes.
Is it uncertain that CIA (or other deep state like NSA) provided the funding so they could listen to conversations which people think are secure? Yes. Do I have proof of that? No.
Tucker said the only way TPTB learned of his impending interview of Putin/Russia trip was through Signal. Tucker was also under the impression that it was an encrypted form of communication safe from prying eyes.
Sundance over at TheConservativeTreehouse.com has a different take on the purpose of the leak. Keep in mind that Sundance has covered D.C. politics and corruption for 15+ yrs, and for the entirety of Trump 1.0 and since, he's been right on almost everything political. It's been like reading the newspaper months before the event occurred.
Basically, he's saying this is purposeful related to the Senate Intel Committe and the swamp's method to inflict harm. Take a look...
The Chat "leak": Seems fairly obvious that this was a clever way to let the EU know what to expect, and what not to demand, from Trump going forward. 100% intentional messaging, IMO.
My first reaction was it was done on purpose. Those guys are NOT stupid like bidens DEI hires. Trumps guys do NOT make stupid mistakes like that. The only reason bidens rats are bellowing about it is because they KNOW they are stupid enough themselves to have actually done it. Trumps team knew exactly what they were doing and who they were using to do it. Case in point….he spared no time being unethical and getting his 15 min of fame. Proof in the pudding!
Yes, on purpose and for the reasons you and Roger Beal above state: the EU has to hear this message in as many ways as possible (using that dummy Goldberg was a stroke of genius) and the Trump team is incredibly intelligent. They don't do stupid. Stupid was the last crowd in the White House. Look up 'stupid' in the dictionary and there is a group photo beginning with Biden and ending with the multi-diverse press secretary.
JMHO, but I think Jeff and you are giving the Trump team way too much slack.
If exposing gross incompetence is a "4d Chess Op"... I'll start wearing a tiny hat like the scumbag POS Goldberg does.
Trump could have just had JD come out in a press conference or interview and make the same statements regarding the EU... which DOES need to be slapped down...
Waltz is a neocon clown, and also clearly a tool of the Zionists, as are Rubio, Hegseth and Gorka.
Didn't your mother teach you thst if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything. It would not have as effective if Vance would have just said it in a press conference
Agree. I think someone just screwed the pooch on this. Not any kind of deep thinking and coniving.
The Atlantic Council replaced Musk as President.
Dr. Paul Alexander in his Substack was all riled up about this, and called for Hegseth to be fired. Nonsense. It was either a planned op by the Admin for some reason, or an exposure of either a leaker, or perhaps just the anti-Trump Atlantic who promoted the Russia hoax and others.
Seems to me that Dr. Paul is losing his way now that Covid is in the rear-view mirror. Rant without substance. Addendum: it occurred to me in this morning's thought time that he may be suffering from a very great disappointment, in not having been appointed to any post in this new administration. He may well have expected a position.
All of his posts are rants without substance. I unfollowed him a few months ago. I get tired of The Sky is Falling.
LOL. Thats how I felt about The epoch times. Always the sky is falling 🙄
It’s funny, last week my conservative parents (early 90’s) were going on and on about the egg scarcities, and prices, as if it was new news! Epoch did a story about egg substitutes that can be used in baking.
Way to scare the old folks Epoch, lol.
They did live through the depression so their fear is understandable, I get it, but why worry them so much?
I used to pay attention to them. They have gone downhill. Always last to break a story -usually up to a week after. And, like you said. The sky is always falling. I don’t consider them credible anymore.
As I understand it, the founding members of The Epoch Times belong to a formerly Republic of China disowned sector of journalists. Perhaps they're actually intelligence agents for the CCP--who really knows these days!
I used to have a paid subscription for Epoch, but canceled about a year ago. I still like their podcast with Jan Jekeliek and they really did platform some censored voices during Covid so they have my respect.
Check into who actually owns them. Bit of an eye-opener.
I'll bite...too lazy to look it up myself.
Who is it???
Okay, I feel guilty not looking it up, so let's allow Gab's AI (Arya) to answer this burning question.
Who owns Epoch Times newspaper?
The Epoch Times is owned by Epoch Media Group, a privately held media company based in New York City. The newspaper was founded in 2000 by John Tang and a group of Chinese Americans who were Falun Gong practitioners. Falun Gong is a spiritual practice that has been persecuted by the Chinese government since 1999. The Epoch Times has been known for its critical coverage of the Chinese Communist Party and its human rights abuses, as well as its support for conservative political views in the United States.
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What is Falun Gong?
Falun Gong, also known as Falun Dafa, is a spiritual practice that originated in China in the early 1990s. It was founded by Li Hongzhi and combines elements of Buddhism, Taoism, and traditional Chinese qigong exercises. The practice involves meditation, slow-moving exercises, and the cultivation of three main principles: truthfulness, compassion, and forbearance. Falun Gong gained significant popularity in China during the 1990s, with millions of people practicing it by the end of the decade. However, the Chinese government viewed the movement as a threat to its authority and launched a nationwide crackdown in 1999. Since then, Falun Gong practitioners have faced severe persecution, including imprisonment, torture, forced labor, and even organ harvesting. Despite the persecution, Falun Gong has continued to grow and spread globally, with practitioners in numerous countries around the world. The movement has also been active in raising awareness about human rights abuses in China and advocating for religious freedom.
What caused it to grow in popularity so quickly?
Several factors contributed to the rapid growth of Falun Gong's popularity in China during the 1990s:
Spiritual vacuum: The rapid economic and social changes in China during this period led many people to seek spiritual fulfillment and guidance, which Falun Gong provided through its teachings and practices.
Health benefits: Many practitioners reported improvements in their physical and mental health after taking up the practice, which attracted more people to try it.
Accessibility: Falun Gong's teachings and exercises were easy to learn and practice, making it accessible to a wide range of people from different age groups and social backgrounds.
Word of mouth: The positive experiences of practitioners led to the spread of Falun Gong through word of mouth, with many people introducing the practice to their friends and family members.
Free of charge: Unlike many other qigong practices at the time, Falun Gong was taught free of charge, which made it more attractive and accessible to a larger audience.
Government endorsement: In its early years, Falun Gong received support and endorsements from some Chinese government agencies, which lent credibility to the practice and helped it gain more followers.
However, as the movement grew in size and influence, the Chinese government began to view it as a threat to its authority and launched a crackdown in 1999, leading to the severe persecution of Falun Gong practitioners that continues to this day.
What caused the government to be so afraid?
The Chinese government's fear and subsequent crackdown on Falun Gong can be attributed to several factors:
Rapid growth and popularity: The sheer number of Falun Gong practitioners, estimated to be in the tens of millions, made the Chinese government uneasy about the movement's potential influence on society.
Ideological differences: Falun Gong's teachings emphasize truthfulness, compassion, and forbearance, which are at odds with the Chinese Communist Party's (CCP) atheist and materialist ideology. The CCP perceived Falun Gong as a competing ideology that could undermine its authority.
Organizational structure: Falun Gong's loose, decentralized organization made it difficult for the government to control or monitor its activities, leading to concerns about the group's potential to mobilize and challenge the state.
Public demonstrations: In April 1999, over 10,000 Falun Gong practitioners staged a peaceful demonstration outside the central government compound in Beijing to protest the mistreatment of fellow practitioners. This display of unity and resistance alarmed the Chinese leadership and contributed to their decision to ban the practice.
Historical context: The CCP has a history of suppressing religious and spiritual movements that it perceives as threats to its power, such as the Taiping Rebellion and the Boxer Uprising. The government's response to Falun Gong can be seen as part of this pattern of suppressing potential challenges to its authority.
The Chinese government's fear of Falun Gong led to a brutal crackdown and ongoing persecution, which has been widely condemned by human rights organizations and governments around the world.
When was the Boxer uprising?
The Boxer Uprising, also known as the Boxer Rebellion, took place between 1899 and 1901 in China. It was led by a secret society called the "Righteous and Harmonious Fists," whose members were known as "Boxers" due to their practice of martial arts. The Boxers were motivated by a combination of nationalistic sentiment, anti-foreign sentiment, and a desire to preserve traditional Chinese culture and values. They targeted foreign missionaries, diplomats, and Chinese Christians, as well as foreign-controlled infrastructure such as railways and telegraph lines. The uprising culminated in a siege of the foreign legations in Beijing in the summer of 1900, prompting an international military intervention by a coalition of eight nations, including the United States, Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, and Austria-Hungary. The intervention led to the suppression of the Boxer Uprising and the signing of the Boxer Protocol in 1901, which imposed heavy reparations on China and granted foreign powers additional territorial and commercial concessions.
True but the CCP was not even an entity in 1899.
You are correct. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) was not founded until 1921, more than two decades after the Boxer Uprising. My previous response should have mentioned that the Qing Dynasty, which ruled China at the time of the Boxer Uprising, was responsible for the suppression of the rebellion and the subsequent signing of the Boxer Protocol. The historical context I mentioned earlier referred to the general pattern of Chinese governments suppressing religious and spiritual movements perceived as threats, rather than specifically linking the Boxer Uprising to the CCP. The CCP's crackdown on Falun Gong in 1999 can be seen as part of this broader historical pattern of Chinese authorities responding forcefully to perceived challenges to their power, even though the CCP itself did not exist during the time of the Boxer Uprising.
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I really wish (very wishful thinking), people would not throw out these supposed shocking bits, and then leave us hanging. An old writing trick picked up by tv…..cliffhanger. So who does own ET?
See above.
Chinese.
Do tell.
I unsubscribed about 2 years ago. He's all rage and no calm judgment. The covid era was bad enough and made worse by his rants.
I unsubbed a few months ago. The best part was the health and living sections. Then I started doing the Word Finder puzzle. I told my husband..."If I was a spy, I would be looking at all the words in this puzzle as either clues as to what was happening or code words for the future". It was super sus and crazy. Example: (before Butler) Line of Sight, Crowd, Collateral...I wrote down more. And...then I asked him "If you were a foreign power, I really think the best way to infiltrate is to come in as a reasonable news source and start laying on the propaganda." He rolls his eyes quite a bit, but not so often as he used to! So terrible when I have to tell him "I was right!" and do the dance that goes along with it.
There might be something to that. I read it sometimes and sometimes I raise my eyebrows and say to myself WTF??
Thank you! So I am not crazy after all. What a relief.
It's been more like two years for me. Don't miss his cursing at all
I didn’t care for his crass name-calling either.
Yes, that, for me, was the last straw.
I tired of Alexander's hysteria and anger about 2 years ago. He's always riled, isn't he?
Now you know why I unsubscribed from his stack 2 years ago.
I stopped reading Dr Alexander. He is very emotionally driven and reacts to every leftist attack on the Administration. It was exhausting to read his posts. I think he needs to stay in his lane.
I do admire Dr. Alexander for his support of the Canadian Truckers, and his stance against the vaxx mandates in Canada. And he began a list of those people who can be considered guilty of crimes against humanity for Covid and the vaxx. It has over 100 now. He worked in the previous Trump Admin, and I thought he would be hired back by RFK Jr.
And he has always been very vocal about deporting the illegals and criminals.
Or, perhaps, a Waltz staffer? ... Remember how many Obama/Hillary/Biden plants were inside the first Trump administration?!
Perhaps his wife Julia Nesheiwat???
I’ve just about given up reading Alexander. He’s on the wrong side too much of the time. Waste of time and emotion.
I just heard that it is possible to discover who put the reporter on the list and when it comes to light, I will not be surprised if it is a democrat name!
🎯
Isn't he Canadian?
It’s okay, some Canadians are very decent people who really love President Trump. It’s okay.
Yeah the media is throwing a fit about this, but just shrugged off the incident where the last administration told China about Russian intelligence, to only have China turn around the next day and tell Russia.
Yup, and none of them cared when the "Secretary of State" herself was using a home server with actual classified information, which was completely illegal. And nothing happens to her.
🎯 this is ridiculous.
It’s rich coming from them that Hegseth needs to resign. Laughable! 😂 😂 😂
There are some who would demand he resign for sneezing.
And the liberal on The Five declared this a disaster (I don't remember her exact words). Her more important observation - that no one should ever, ever again mention Hillary's server, as this Signal call was much, much worse than Hillary having a secure (?) server at home.
There is no possible way for Special Access Program materiel to find it's way from a sandboxed SAP facility network to an external server. Not without intent manifest into action. It was "sneaker-netted" to the home server (hand carried.) This cannot happen accidentally. Those networks are supposed to have no internet connection whatsoever, by design.
Hillary's server is worse by orders of magnitude.
Of course it is. Lie, lie, but win a talking point. That's the Democrat Party. No solutions, just wordfare.
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Oh goodness. That must have been Jessica Tarlov. She is uniquely terrible. I'm not against listening to liberals, but she is particularly stupid and has zero unique analysis of anything.
The point is Fox News is no better than all the rest of the msm. The intent is to get us riled up all day, so nothing productive happens except the days newest screw up or outrage. This was like red meat for the masses on either side, and the American people are back 40 years hating each other.
They are now worse. I only catch Gutfeld on rare occasion only because he and Tyrus haven't sold out yet. Haven't watched the other shows since Bret "I love jelly donuts" Bair was in on calling the 2020 (s)election. Also, it doesn't help having RINO Ryan on the Board of Directors for News Corp... that tells me everything I need to know about them. Plus, firing Tucker didn't do them any favors...
She is uniquely terrible and her voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard.
Haha! I just posted the exact comment about her irritating voice before I saw yours. Exactly right!
That Jessica numbskull on The Five (Tarlove? Tarluck? Tarbuck? Tar-for-Brains?) is more than I can stand. Her voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard, and her opinions are even more irritating than her voice.
Don’t you mute her? 😉
We are always disappointed when Harold Ford Jr is not on the panel.
When I used to watch the Five, he was the only one of the "Dems" that had an original thought, or a coherent argument. At least there could be an adult conversation with him on the panel. Beckel too, back in the day. I still rarely agreed with them, but at least they presented an argument with a point.
Never forget Gen. Milley told Chinese General Li he would keep them updated to any plans of attack. Milley was pardoned by Biden.
And the Chinese spy ballon.
That’s a big 10-4 CK!
Well, it's OK when they do it. The hypocrisy is ridiculous. But also, this was on purpose, whereas I believe their blunders weren't. 😂
What I'm coming to appreciate is just how easy it is to trigger them. It's psychopathic theater.
The media practically celebrated baggies of cocaine in Biden’s White House. They pretended it was a complete mystery even more impossible to solve than UFOs.
I immediately thought also it was s brilliant set up.
As did I. How does someone inadvertently get added to a high level security meeting? Especially one from the Atlantic, known Trump disdainer? It doesn’t happen. I take nothing the msm rails on seriously any more. It’s smoke and mirrors set out by Trump and his merry band while they go about the necessary dirty work of cleaning out the Swamp and I love it.
What's funny is that they fell for it.
Not a set up However potentially a globalist loyalist under Waltz. They all have these. 98 percent of all the three letter agencies. This will be a long battle
It’s been five years, and those of us who knew it was organized have long since come to the resolution, it will be a long fight. But as the layers of the rotten onion come off, we are now well aware, and that’s a step forward.
Great point. No one knows how many folks were on the chat, or who had access to the conversation. Mike Waltz and Pete Hegseth are smarter than the average deep state thug and they wouldn't discuss "top secret" info on a Signal text, especially with an idiot from the "Atlantic" on the thread.
I do not have the same confidence in Waltz. He needs to go.
Supporting MAGA is one thing... trying to turn gross incompetence into "4D Chess" is absurd.
If a message needs to be sent to the EU and it dies... say it out loud and proud. Fugg them!
If Waltz is as big a neocon as many say on here, (I personally do not know), how did he get past the vetting process. This is just too convenient a screw up. Who next…Tulsi? RFK Jr. Seems to be treading very carefully for now. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck….not anymore. Something is off about this whole thing.
IMO, Trump is compromised/controlled by Israel. This does not mean he is not doing many great things...
Waltz loves the taste of Bibi's banana.
That's why Trump picked him, AIPAC did the vetting. Rubio is no different.
Can’t agree. Everyone seems to forget everything that went on in 2024. After what went on in his last term? Something of this importance would be vetted. Just doesn’t add up.
I come from a farm background and this doesn’t pass the sniff test.
Waltz WAS vetted... by AIPAC and the Zionists, that clearly also control Trump.
Trump's Cabinet is loaded with Israel puppets.
Why else would he make himself complicit in Israel's massive war crimes... and bomb Yemen for no other reason that his Zionist masters demanded it?
Yemen never has attacked US shipping or any US asset.
We do NOT have a mutual defense agreement with Israel.
Did you have Covid? Your "sniffer" is not functioning.
Far more likely. No need to self inflict a public relations embarrassment to get that message out. It is already out there loudly!
I was watching yesterday when they asked him about the Atlantic article. And I had a strong feeling he knew exactly what they were talking about even though he said he didn’t. It was a perfect opportunity to slam the paper and get the news out to the Europeans.
Yes agree, and Jeff's explanation as usual really does a very good job of "deep dive" into the logic by explaining the full scope of the impact of doing it vs a more "traditional" method of PR used by other WH's in the past. Brilliant, I do agree.
Hoping Jeff sees this and comments on SB196 in the Florida Senate which would require labeling of all of our food products if they contain vaccine or vaccine products. Is this a good thing? I would love a legal analysis! ALSO Can we PLEASE do a multiplier for SHOLDEN DANIELS of TX to UNSEAT Jasmine Crockett. I half think that the crap she's been spewing lately is to cause some kind of reaction from us that would start a fake race riot by paid actors. She's so nasty. And it's an act, because she didn't talk so ghetto until she got into office - she is not, nor ever has been, poor and from the hood. She disgusts me.
Agree about J Crockett.
Agree completely. This has proven pretty easy to do, because the left falls for anything - they don't do nuance and they take everything at what they think is face value. It is very easy to troll them. And what is extra brilliant about it is, if they can't legally dismantle the lying woke Jacobin commie media, who has been given the right to lie to American citizens, at least they can use their sleazy ways against them.
I love it.
Me too! Every accusation they make is actually a confession.
“The thread is a demonstration of the deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials....right? And both Pete H. and JD Vance have had extensive media experience. They know how to deliver their lines. This was a setup and hyena dude totally fell in.
I seem to recall the politicians are famous for "Leaking" information to direct a narrative.
What in the holy "F" are they communicating on Signal for? It is not a government approved IT system. It is very likely a CIA app although I have no 100% proof of that. It is claimed to be owned by a non-profit to help everyone secure their communications. Sure...
Do I use it? Yes. Do I believe the CIA has hooks in it, yes.
Regardless of whether they did it to prime the press, they should not be using Signal for any official communications.
On the other hand it would be entirely appropriate to use Signal for official seeming communications and to "accidentally" invite a blabbermouth to it.
I don't like duplicitous behavior, under any situation. I'd like to think Trump does not want that kinda crap going on. Hell, they might as well be CIA.
Maybe it wasn't meant to be official and actually meant to be unofficial, wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more. And use Goldberg, the dummy, to be your conduit. He's stupid enough to fall for anything.
Just this:
https://americanfaith.com/hegseth-denies-allegations-of-war-plans-leak/
And...I would not doubt the lies. I am so tired of trying to figure out what's the Truth and what are lies. I guess we have to consider the sources.
Sure I get that, but you simply cannot use un-authorized apps to do official work. Had I or you done that, I or you would have gone to Prison. We either have standards or we do not.
Yes. If it were meant to appear to be official communication, but it wasn't, which would render using Signal to be justified in this case. I'm now wondering if perhaps the real test had more to do with Waltz. Mirrors within mirrors within mirrors.
I do not approve of duplicitous behavior. For anything.
It would be a sea change if statecraft were not run largely on duplicitous behavior. History shows that the rules that apply to us lowly individuals does not apply to powerful actors. Fwiw, I agree with you in principle.
We must never accept that there is/are laws for us, that are not laws for others. Im so disgusted and sick of the dual status for people. If we are not principled - and acting on those principles, we are no better than the scum we claim to abhor.
Nations can make war and kill soldiers and citizens on both sides; but you and I cannot do that. It's not fair, probably immoral, although there is the Just War Theory, but there it is.
Oh, but we can. We can choose to make war too. And we have access to the implements. Thank God for our prescient founders.
Apparently this app has been used officially for a while according to Ratcliffe … and he’s CIA.
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That's not true, it is not an authorized application. But Family Support Groups, etc, may be using it unofficially. Official communications go on the NIPRNET and SIPRNET and the apps formally in place on them
I am having Substack trouble. Apologies.
No problem Sadie,
I am certain that people are using Signal, but it is not an authorized application in DOD, nor is it authorized for use by other US Government entities. Perhaps that is precisely why this highest level group (who knows better) was using it to do what you and other's think they were doing.
I could also see where a family support group or some other support group would say this is what we are going to use and the "unit Commander said it was okay". Or maybe some Sergeant's wife said it was okay. And that went through the grapevine and the next thing you know, its now officially paid for and supported by the USG.
You can read the "official" story about Signal here; "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software)". Keep in mind Wikipedia sells narratives for people to believe in.
Is it better than communicating on a non-encrypted platform like google? Yes.
Is it uncertain that CIA (or other deep state like NSA) provided the funding so they could listen to conversations which people think are secure? Yes. Do I have proof of that? No.
Check this out too: https://english.almayadeen.net/articles/analysis/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia-cuts-funding
Emptor Caveat.
Tucker said the only way TPTB learned of his impending interview of Putin/Russia trip was through Signal. Tucker was also under the impression that it was an encrypted form of communication safe from prying eyes.
Additional perspectives on this issue in the comment thread here:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/03/was-this-leak-accidental-or-is-it-pro-war-psyops.html
Sundance over at TheConservativeTreehouse.com has a different take on the purpose of the leak. Keep in mind that Sundance has covered D.C. politics and corruption for 15+ yrs, and for the entirety of Trump 1.0 and since, he's been right on almost everything political. It's been like reading the newspaper months before the event occurred.
Basically, he's saying this is purposeful related to the Senate Intel Committe and the swamp's method to inflict harm. Take a look...
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/03/25/signalgate-president-trump-stands-by-mike-waltz-attributing-signal-app-issue-to-waltz-staffer-who-accidentally-added-journalist/
My first reaction was it was done on purpose. I thought it was too obvious actually but clearly got the media frothing
Tonight Ned Ryan made me think twice when he suggested that an Alex Wong (?) was on Mike Waltz’s team. Is he an Obama plant or loyalist?!