Jeff Childers asked what keeps everyone (or anyone) from descending into such abhorrent behavior? Completely agree with the demon perspective, but I do think there are also some explanations that aren't overtly spiritual.
We are all born (or perhaps develop as babies) with an innate revulsion to certain things that make them appear repuls…
Jeff Childers asked what keeps everyone (or anyone) from descending into such abhorrent behavior? Completely agree with the demon perspective, but I do think there are also some explanations that aren't overtly spiritual.
We are all born (or perhaps develop as babies) with an innate revulsion to certain things that make them appear repulsive. This is for our own protection. As an example, feces smell awful, so people are disgusted by it, avoid it, dispose of it, bury it, etc. Same with a corpse. This is a good thing as feces or a corpse can very often spread disease. Even before humans knew this they had the good sense to stay away from them.
This same innate revulsion includes many other things such as homosexual acts, bestiality, and pedophilia. I'm a sinner but I have zero temptation for these sins (unlike many other sins), as I find the idea revolting. Again, this is a good thing as it protects us individually and the species. If everyone were to have become homosexual then humans would have long ago become extinct.
The problem is that this innate revulsion can be overcome through conditioning, i.e. repeated exposure to desensitize individuals, particularly if started at a young age. Every child predator on Earth knows this, which is exactly what we see with demonic individuals who are put in a position of trust over children. They gradually expose children to graphic material until they are desensitized and compliant.
Now consider what the "pride" movement is doing in schools and ask yourself if it's any different.
Romans 1:24 Therefore God gave them over in the desires of their hearts to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another. Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired.
Excellent point that I had not considered. God allowed it to happen ("gave them over to the desires of their hearts") as punishment for their wickedness. One could take that to mean He removed that innate revulsion that made people hesitant to engage in certain behaviors. No surprise this passage regards sexual immorality.
Might I suggest your reading 2 Timothy 3. The entire chapter explains what is happening now and how God's Word is as relevant, living and breathing, as it was even before it was penned.
Thanks, that is a very appropriate passage. One thing that always stuck me as out of place when Paul is running down the list of behavior in the last days is "disobedient to parents". It seemed sort of trivial compared to the others, like Paul was describing a child refusing to eat his vegetables.
Now I get it. When have we ever seen kids demand that their genitals be mutilated in defiance of their parents wishes? Or secretly pretend they are a different gender when away from their parents? Or seek out bizarre sexual information and practices from adults behind their parents backs?
All the signs are there for those paying attention.
Truth! But Satan is the great deceiver and wants nothing more than to lead children away from their parents. We see the destruction of marriage, family, children, and church and on and on. If we don't stand up, who will? We should be praying that God's Holy Spirit would convict us to speak truth loudly everywhere we go, every single day.
I don’t believe God removed an innate revulsion to engage in wickedness, people choose either to follow God and His Commandments or they choose to disobey Him. He gave us free will.
No doubt He gave us free will and we use that to follow or reject Him. What I'm talking about is something different, an innate sense of disgust at certain things or behaviors.
Think about it, why do some things smell bad to us? What would make our brains recoil in disgust at the smell of something (or someone) putrid whereas we enjoy the odor of a rose? That putrid thing is almost always bad for us and it's as if we know at a base (subconscious) level to avoid it. There's a built-in inhibition there (from God) that goes beyond merely knowing right from wrong. The same thing applies to behavior, there are some we recoil in disgust at versus those that make us happy when we see them.
The verses Fred quoted, "Therefore God gave them over in the desires of their hearts to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another." implies God did something that removed their God-given inhibitions. In the context of the text He did this as punishment for their wickedness.
And after you have tried every position in the sex handbook and become bored, you move on to something new and different (poor Fido). Tell me again about the pet dog who got monkeypox, but the owners' swear it must have been a different method than the way they acquired monkeypox.
Additionally, the children who were adopted by gay men somehow came down with it....tell me how they also got it, along with their dog... I mean, they weren't even charged with child and or pet abuse.
I also think it’s like drugs where you keep having to do more and stronger to get the same effect. These people get off on perverted practices and have to do things that are more and more extreme to get that same “high.” 😕
Power, including sexual power, over an other is what is left after acquiring all the money one person could ever spend. I believe those perpetrating evil over an other, child or adult, are living their own personal hell as a prelude to eternity with Satan.
Jeff Childers asked what keeps everyone (or anyone) from descending into such abhorrent behavior? Completely agree with the demon perspective, but I do think there are also some explanations that aren't overtly spiritual.
We are all born (or perhaps develop as babies) with an innate revulsion to certain things that make them appear repulsive. This is for our own protection. As an example, feces smell awful, so people are disgusted by it, avoid it, dispose of it, bury it, etc. Same with a corpse. This is a good thing as feces or a corpse can very often spread disease. Even before humans knew this they had the good sense to stay away from them.
This same innate revulsion includes many other things such as homosexual acts, bestiality, and pedophilia. I'm a sinner but I have zero temptation for these sins (unlike many other sins), as I find the idea revolting. Again, this is a good thing as it protects us individually and the species. If everyone were to have become homosexual then humans would have long ago become extinct.
The problem is that this innate revulsion can be overcome through conditioning, i.e. repeated exposure to desensitize individuals, particularly if started at a young age. Every child predator on Earth knows this, which is exactly what we see with demonic individuals who are put in a position of trust over children. They gradually expose children to graphic material until they are desensitized and compliant.
Now consider what the "pride" movement is doing in schools and ask yourself if it's any different.
Romans 1:24 Therefore God gave them over in the desires of their hearts to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another. Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired.
Excellent point that I had not considered. God allowed it to happen ("gave them over to the desires of their hearts") as punishment for their wickedness. One could take that to mean He removed that innate revulsion that made people hesitant to engage in certain behaviors. No surprise this passage regards sexual immorality.
Might I suggest your reading 2 Timothy 3. The entire chapter explains what is happening now and how God's Word is as relevant, living and breathing, as it was even before it was penned.
Thanks, that is a very appropriate passage. One thing that always stuck me as out of place when Paul is running down the list of behavior in the last days is "disobedient to parents". It seemed sort of trivial compared to the others, like Paul was describing a child refusing to eat his vegetables.
Now I get it. When have we ever seen kids demand that their genitals be mutilated in defiance of their parents wishes? Or secretly pretend they are a different gender when away from their parents? Or seek out bizarre sexual information and practices from adults behind their parents backs?
All the signs are there for those paying attention.
Truth! But Satan is the great deceiver and wants nothing more than to lead children away from their parents. We see the destruction of marriage, family, children, and church and on and on. If we don't stand up, who will? We should be praying that God's Holy Spirit would convict us to speak truth loudly everywhere we go, every single day.
Excellent suggested reading, Maggie. 👍🏼
I don’t believe God removed an innate revulsion to engage in wickedness, people choose either to follow God and His Commandments or they choose to disobey Him. He gave us free will.
No doubt He gave us free will and we use that to follow or reject Him. What I'm talking about is something different, an innate sense of disgust at certain things or behaviors.
Think about it, why do some things smell bad to us? What would make our brains recoil in disgust at the smell of something (or someone) putrid whereas we enjoy the odor of a rose? That putrid thing is almost always bad for us and it's as if we know at a base (subconscious) level to avoid it. There's a built-in inhibition there (from God) that goes beyond merely knowing right from wrong. The same thing applies to behavior, there are some we recoil in disgust at versus those that make us happy when we see them.
The verses Fred quoted, "Therefore God gave them over in the desires of their hearts to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another." implies God did something that removed their God-given inhibitions. In the context of the text He did this as punishment for their wickedness.
And after you have tried every position in the sex handbook and become bored, you move on to something new and different (poor Fido). Tell me again about the pet dog who got monkeypox, but the owners' swear it must have been a different method than the way they acquired monkeypox.
Additionally, the children who were adopted by gay men somehow came down with it....tell me how they also got it, along with their dog... I mean, they weren't even charged with child and or pet abuse.
I didn’t read your comment before I made mine but I just made a similar observation.
Great minds think alike?
Great comment. Agree.
I also think it’s like drugs where you keep having to do more and stronger to get the same effect. These people get off on perverted practices and have to do things that are more and more extreme to get that same “high.” 😕
Power, including sexual power, over an other is what is left after acquiring all the money one person could ever spend. I believe those perpetrating evil over an other, child or adult, are living their own personal hell as a prelude to eternity with Satan.
Yes I agree with your take.
True. Ask Jeffrey Dahmer. And many others.
It’s so vile 😡😞