Amen. Just out of curiosity, how many of the reader's pastors brought up and denounced the spectacle of the Olympics opening ceremony at last Sunday's service? I'm extremely grateful that my pastor did, I thanked him afterwards and he told me the Holy Spirit put it on his heart.
If your pastor is pretending all of this is normal, either o…
Amen. Just out of curiosity, how many of the reader's pastors brought up and denounced the spectacle of the Olympics opening ceremony at last Sunday's service? I'm extremely grateful that my pastor did, I thanked him afterwards and he told me the Holy Spirit put it on his heart.
If your pastor is pretending all of this is normal, either out of ignorance or fear of upsetting people, then you really need to be asking yourself if you are at the right church. It's a very sad commentary that much of the church is complicit in this.
You should try a parish with the Traditional Latin Mass, if you can find one. My parish always talks about the current world evils. Several bishops have spoken out, but not enough.
My priest does, Father Ryan. In January he even did a special prayer/rebuke of big pharma and corrupt medicine including calling out Pfizer, Moderna etc. and calling for healing for those ever injured.
I did not watch the opening ceremonies (other than clips posted afterwards) and have not watched one minute of the Olympics. I did see a YouTuber breaking down the meaning of the imagery of the opening ceremonies and what the producers are “explaining” to us troglodytes that are too simple to understand their postmodern, abstract awesomeness. She pointed out portions of the display that I had not seen (blood running down the walls on either side of the headless Marie spectacle?) and tied in the pre-programming imagery from other such “ceremonies” (and these are Satanic rituals, no matter what they call them). For example, the opening ceremony in London 2012 included Voldemort, Jack the Ripper, and children trapped in hospital beds and given forced injections by diabolical doctors. Sound familiar? It has nothing to do with celebration of the Olympic spirit and everything to do with their Luciferianism on full display.
Why is it always Christianity being mocked? Why not Islam? Why not Judaism? Why not Hinduism or Buddhism? Islam - you would be killed or at least sentenced to death with a fatwa. Judaism - you would be called an anti-Semite and financially ruined. Am I wrong?
Only Christianity has a hope and a future beyond this life. In John 16:33 last part, Jesus said “In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer ; I have overcome the world.” KJV. Jesus is coming soon for His Bride. What a day that will be.
“The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church”. Always has been and always will be.
I’ve read a lot of commentary from other pastors online, not mine, that say we should show love, not hate, as Jesus would have. That those performers would have been welcome at Jesus’ table, that he didn’t turn away sinners but welcomed them and that we as a Christian body should do the same. I’m conflicted because it was a reprehensible performance and mockery of the last supper and yet I also believe we are called to love the person, hate the sin.
Jesus did not unconditionally welcome people reveling in sin to His table. He welcomed sinners but told them in no uncertain terms "go and sin no more". He told them they must repent. He told people to come as they are, but that they *must* change. The touchy, feely Jesus isn't the Jesus of the Gospels.
Read how Jesus spoke to the Pharisees that used treachery to attack Him. He didn't show them love and mercy but called them "Sons of Satan" and vipers. These vile people hated Him, hated His Word, and mocked Him, and Jesus held nothing back in calling them out. How are these "performers" different?
The Olympic opening ceremony flaunted hedonistic transsexual behavior, had one "performer" with his genitals exposed (right next to a child), and culminated in mocking the Last Supper. The "Jesus" figure was an obese Jewish atheist lesbian who openly stated the intent was to mock it. It was an abomination deliberately intended to mock God.
The Bible tells us in no uncertain terms we are to call out sin. There is nothing in the Bible that ever says we must be "nice" to people and not call out their sin because it might upset them. The Bible says we are to be "kind" to people not "nice", and when someone is destroying their life through sin the kind thing is to tell them the truth.
Showing love does not mean we ignore sin and hope it goes away. It does not mean we let people treat us like doormats. Turning the other cheek is a lesson in de-escalation, it doesn't mean an abused wife that calls herself a Christian has to put up with it. That's not showing love.
Showing love often means unpleasant action, something these feminized pastors doesn't seem willing to admit. It's not "love" to give a drunk a drink, even if that seems like the nice and non-confrontational thing to do. Showing love means telling the drunk no, and often letting him suffer the consequences of his action.
Yes we should pray for these people. Yes we should be kind to them if given the opportunity in love. But no, they don't get a free pass for their behavior, and to those of who have studied the Bible this is eminently clear.
We have a real problem with pastors that pick and choose pleasant-sounding passages from the Bible, and don't teach the whole counsel of God.
Thank you for such a complete analysis and one I wholeheartedly agree with. When you read those other statements floating around online, you say to yourself "Yeah, that's right, as christians we are called to love and leave the judgement for Jesus." But something about that doesn't feel right within my soul either. Certainly we don't respond with hate, but your words give me what I think I needed to move forward in conversation about this with my christian friends and family. Thank you for the response.
I've seen statements like that, and they are irritating. When I hear "Jesus hung out with sinners", they forget that we are not Jesus, we are the sinners.
They overlook the fact that those "sinners" HE hung out with had repented, He had forgiven them and told them to sin no more. They had accepted who HE was, who HE represented and whose work HE was doing. HIS FATHER the most high GOD. They also changed their lifestyles, gave up every thing to follow Him and His way. They were called Followers of the Way...
you forget how and how often (and brutally) Jesus railed on the government poohbahs for their corruption. He never let them gt off with anything. Brood of snakes, corruption on two legs, doomed.... things like that.
Now at the first sign of any of those hearts turning (think of the tax collector up in the tree.....) He pened up wide to embrace them.
Yes those performers would have been welcome a His table... but o way would he just feed their gaping mouths without confronting their evil hearts. He was lways and remains about the whole man.
WHO with any real authority said one word against this debacle? That got to the filth-mongers that planned and executed this debacle?
yeah, that's what I remember too.
Jesus would have gotten upin their grilles, big time. Don't be fooled by the "sweet jesus" lie. That's how we get these perversions week after week.
Christ called people to repent and believe on Him. He did not go soft on sin. He was criticized by the religious leaders of His day for sitting and talking with those who they considered to be sinners but He warned them through the parables that He used to make His point that there are consequences of failing to repent. Read Luke 13; 22 - 30 for example
I just started reading a book on my way home from vacation yesterday that speaks to your question and this topic, Jeff. The book is "Live Not By Lies", by Rod Dreher. I only got a quarter of the way through it on the plane, but from only that, I highly recommend it. I would even venture to say it's a "must read" for all Christians and religious Jews.
Amen. Just out of curiosity, how many of the reader's pastors brought up and denounced the spectacle of the Olympics opening ceremony at last Sunday's service? I'm extremely grateful that my pastor did, I thanked him afterwards and he told me the Holy Spirit put it on his heart.
If your pastor is pretending all of this is normal, either out of ignorance or fear of upsetting people, then you really need to be asking yourself if you are at the right church. It's a very sad commentary that much of the church is complicit in this.
Catholic Church never talks about anything going on in the world.
You should try a parish with the Traditional Latin Mass, if you can find one. My parish always talks about the current world evils. Several bishops have spoken out, but not enough.
My priest does, Father Ryan. In January he even did a special prayer/rebuke of big pharma and corrupt medicine including calling out Pfizer, Moderna etc. and calling for healing for those ever injured.
OMG. that’s amazing. I think most of our parish would walk out and never return. They’d be insulted.
I’m afraid that they endorse it instead.
I did not watch the opening ceremonies (other than clips posted afterwards) and have not watched one minute of the Olympics. I did see a YouTuber breaking down the meaning of the imagery of the opening ceremonies and what the producers are “explaining” to us troglodytes that are too simple to understand their postmodern, abstract awesomeness. She pointed out portions of the display that I had not seen (blood running down the walls on either side of the headless Marie spectacle?) and tied in the pre-programming imagery from other such “ceremonies” (and these are Satanic rituals, no matter what they call them). For example, the opening ceremony in London 2012 included Voldemort, Jack the Ripper, and children trapped in hospital beds and given forced injections by diabolical doctors. Sound familiar? It has nothing to do with celebration of the Olympic spirit and everything to do with their Luciferianism on full display.
Why is it always Christianity being mocked? Why not Islam? Why not Judaism? Why not Hinduism or Buddhism? Islam - you would be killed or at least sentenced to death with a fatwa. Judaism - you would be called an anti-Semite and financially ruined. Am I wrong?
Only Christianity has a hope and a future beyond this life. In John 16:33 last part, Jesus said “In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer ; I have overcome the world.” KJV. Jesus is coming soon for His Bride. What a day that will be.
“The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church”. Always has been and always will be.
I’ve read a lot of commentary from other pastors online, not mine, that say we should show love, not hate, as Jesus would have. That those performers would have been welcome at Jesus’ table, that he didn’t turn away sinners but welcomed them and that we as a Christian body should do the same. I’m conflicted because it was a reprehensible performance and mockery of the last supper and yet I also believe we are called to love the person, hate the sin.
Jesus did not unconditionally welcome people reveling in sin to His table. He welcomed sinners but told them in no uncertain terms "go and sin no more". He told them they must repent. He told people to come as they are, but that they *must* change. The touchy, feely Jesus isn't the Jesus of the Gospels.
Read how Jesus spoke to the Pharisees that used treachery to attack Him. He didn't show them love and mercy but called them "Sons of Satan" and vipers. These vile people hated Him, hated His Word, and mocked Him, and Jesus held nothing back in calling them out. How are these "performers" different?
The Olympic opening ceremony flaunted hedonistic transsexual behavior, had one "performer" with his genitals exposed (right next to a child), and culminated in mocking the Last Supper. The "Jesus" figure was an obese Jewish atheist lesbian who openly stated the intent was to mock it. It was an abomination deliberately intended to mock God.
The Bible tells us in no uncertain terms we are to call out sin. There is nothing in the Bible that ever says we must be "nice" to people and not call out their sin because it might upset them. The Bible says we are to be "kind" to people not "nice", and when someone is destroying their life through sin the kind thing is to tell them the truth.
Showing love does not mean we ignore sin and hope it goes away. It does not mean we let people treat us like doormats. Turning the other cheek is a lesson in de-escalation, it doesn't mean an abused wife that calls herself a Christian has to put up with it. That's not showing love.
Showing love often means unpleasant action, something these feminized pastors doesn't seem willing to admit. It's not "love" to give a drunk a drink, even if that seems like the nice and non-confrontational thing to do. Showing love means telling the drunk no, and often letting him suffer the consequences of his action.
Yes we should pray for these people. Yes we should be kind to them if given the opportunity in love. But no, they don't get a free pass for their behavior, and to those of who have studied the Bible this is eminently clear.
We have a real problem with pastors that pick and choose pleasant-sounding passages from the Bible, and don't teach the whole counsel of God.
Thank you for such a complete analysis and one I wholeheartedly agree with. When you read those other statements floating around online, you say to yourself "Yeah, that's right, as christians we are called to love and leave the judgement for Jesus." But something about that doesn't feel right within my soul either. Certainly we don't respond with hate, but your words give me what I think I needed to move forward in conversation about this with my christian friends and family. Thank you for the response.
Yes: "Tough Love."
Truth spoken in love. If it’s not truth spoke it can be genuine love.
Amen and Amen!🙏
100% YES!
Jeff C you said it correctly! Thank you!!
I've seen statements like that, and they are irritating. When I hear "Jesus hung out with sinners", they forget that we are not Jesus, we are the sinners.
They overlook the fact that those "sinners" HE hung out with had repented, He had forgiven them and told them to sin no more. They had accepted who HE was, who HE represented and whose work HE was doing. HIS FATHER the most high GOD. They also changed their lifestyles, gave up every thing to follow Him and His way. They were called Followers of the Way...
you forget how and how often (and brutally) Jesus railed on the government poohbahs for their corruption. He never let them gt off with anything. Brood of snakes, corruption on two legs, doomed.... things like that.
Now at the first sign of any of those hearts turning (think of the tax collector up in the tree.....) He pened up wide to embrace them.
Yes those performers would have been welcome a His table... but o way would he just feed their gaping mouths without confronting their evil hearts. He was lways and remains about the whole man.
WHO with any real authority said one word against this debacle? That got to the filth-mongers that planned and executed this debacle?
yeah, that's what I remember too.
Jesus would have gotten upin their grilles, big time. Don't be fooled by the "sweet jesus" lie. That's how we get these perversions week after week.
People didn’t act like that when Jesus was alive. Those people would spit on Jesus and his teachings.
Valid question & great answer by Jeff C too
Christ called people to repent and believe on Him. He did not go soft on sin. He was criticized by the religious leaders of His day for sitting and talking with those who they considered to be sinners but He warned them through the parables that He used to make His point that there are consequences of failing to repent. Read Luke 13; 22 - 30 for example
I just started reading a book on my way home from vacation yesterday that speaks to your question and this topic, Jeff. The book is "Live Not By Lies", by Rod Dreher. I only got a quarter of the way through it on the plane, but from only that, I highly recommend it. I would even venture to say it's a "must read" for all Christians and religious Jews.
haven't heard anything from our church about it either