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AngelaK's avatar

Yes there were many. I was a New Yorker then. I know one personally.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Did you ever see the video of a whale breaching the floor of a gymnasium right in front of an entire audience. A mass hallucination was promoted and everyone had confirmation because everyone could say they saw it on the TV box. Actual witnesses also saw people who were running from the collapsing towers who simply disintegrated and vanished into thin air right in front of them.

But aside from witnesses, actual engineering fact says there is no way an aluminum airplane and jet fuel could produce what happened to those buildings. And remember, wasn't just the two Twin Towers. There is Building 7 and the Pentagon which no jet hit and the sole video evidence shows a missile hitting the Pentagon.

It's all BS and we have to quit falling for it.

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MissAnthrope's avatar

Strange that there are few discussing this. Is it simply because we have been subjected to so many psyops at this point, that we just accept that it will happen, and move on? It's truly painful to remain awake, but it's the only way through this.

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rolandttg's avatar

It is far easier to fool people than convince them they have been fooled. Especially so if they have embraced the lie for a long time.

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Politico Phil's avatar

You know that's true.

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BBS's avatar

Yes. Tens and tens of millions of Americans are stunningly naive ir not outright stupid, going along with, repeating as gospel, never even questioning, whatever they read on someone's Facebook page or Twitter or heard on NBC.

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Colby's avatar

I know someone who saw a plane flying low over I 95 in Alexandria, then a fireball. How to explain that?

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Politico Phil's avatar

Good question. Who looked into it?

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Phil, the planes which hit the towers were flying at 400 MPH and were full to the brim with highly explosive aviation fuel. Yes, they disintegrated but still had enough kinetic energy to mortally damage the towers. The fires from the fuel ultimately so weakened the towers and once they started falling, there was no stopping them. Where are those airplanes, where are those people on the airplanes. It was definitely an airplane which again, at very high speed and still full of fuel hit the Pentagon. And the final one, we all saw, or heard the phone calls of courageous people calling their loved ones and then charging the cockpit.

I just think you are way off the mark on this. Whether or not elements of the US gov were involved in the planning, funding, training of the 14 who did the dirty deed, I don't know. Personally, I believe it was more than just OBL, most likely the Saudis, or some other ME s'hole... But I certainly cannot rule out elements of our own corrupt gov having a role. Just like our gov had a role in the assassination attempt of Trump.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Yes, that was the conventional explanation which I initially accepted. However, if you read all the engineering analysis, this scenario is impossible. Jet fuel does not burn hot enough to weaken the structure. Furthermore, analysis of the videos demonstrates that they are CGI. Everything - and I mean everything - about the event is anomalous. Aluminum aircraft cannot even cut through the outer steel layer of the building, much less the support structures inside. No aircraft parts in the rubble. The evidence goes on and on. You need to go through Dr. Judy Wood's book or at least watch the video. The initial explanation is vacuous. In fact, the Towers, not to mention the other 5 buildings that were destroyed with ONLY TWO PLANES (?), were specifically designed to withstand a plane impact. Everything was staged. It was all psyops.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

We can agree on a lot of things but on this one I don't think we will find common ground.

I've done a reasonable amount of research on 9-11. That does not mean I know precisely what happened. It wasn't CGI. And it wasn't just two planes, it was the massive kinetic force of those two buildings collapsing. And I will leave it there.

But, honestly, it is not really that important in the overall scheme of things - and we probably shouldn't waste a lot of energy on it. What is important is we recognize the enemy and WE DEFEAT THEM... and we won't defeat them arguing with one another. While we argue they steal elections, our wealth, our power, our freedom, liberty and ultimately our lives.

No ONE is coming to our rescue as I believe they will murder Trump or just prevent him from accomplishing anything as 47, if by some chance they are unsuccessful in assassinating him. I believe they have decided they cannot steal the presidency, and they will steal the Senate, the House and ever much more of the state, county and local governments and most importantly the judiciary. We've done NOTHING to stop them stealing elections. Most people will agree we no longer have a country or government of, by, and for the people - but very few are willing to get on board with what needs to be done... taking down the tyranny.

So, we better find the courage of our Founders and start taking these rotten, evil people out. I'm not saying civil war, I think we can maybe avoid that. I think A LOT of targeted direct action will turn the tide and from there we can restore our sovereignty and our once great social contract in the untarnished Constitution. There will be blood lost, there is either blood lost or freedom and liberty lost.

There is a "Wild Card" in all of this: Divine Providence and whether and how God's Will be done.

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Politico Phil's avatar

LOL... yeah, that's some "wild card"!

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Bryan Dair's avatar

Everything you wrote above is pure poppycock.

I will gladly debate each point you make using verifiable facts.

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Bryan Dair's avatar

Aviation fuel is basically kerosine. It is not highly explosive; compared to say gasoline. And it does not burn at a very high temperature, unless it is aspirated and blasted through a jet engine.

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Bryan Dair's avatar

There were no planes.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Sure, you can believe that if you want.

You probably believe that we didn't put astronauts on the moon either.

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Bryan Dair's avatar

That is a non sequitur.

None of the alleged 'hijackers' were captured on any of the hundreds of

airport security cameras as they were passing through the airport preparing to board their respective flights. It is not possible that there were four successful hijackings in the US on the same morning. And none of the pilots squawked the 4 digit emergency code. It is not possible that a hijacker could operate a Boeing airliner and navigate it for hundreds of miles and strike a target dead on.

Experienced pilots were unable to duplicate the maneuvers in a simulator.

It is not possible that four hijacked planes could fly wildly off course for hours in US airspace without being detected. It is not possible that an airliner could completely disappear into the side of a steel framed building with structural steel perimeter columns spaced one meter apart. The pictures of the airplane 'impact holes' show intact columns where wings were supposed to have passed through. This is impossible. The wings and tail section would have sheared off

and aircraft debris would have rained down on the street below.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Im a pilot. You are not. You have no idea what you are talking about. But you probably smoke a lot of weed. Or you are naturally delusional. Either way, you are wrong.

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Bryan Dair's avatar

If there is any aspect of what I posted that you can refute,

then I am open to hearing your perspective.

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Bryan Dair's avatar

I am not a pilot, and I do not smoke a lot of weed.

I can direct you to a lot of pilots that say that the 9/11 narrative is

impossible from an aviation standpoint.

https://pf911t.org/

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Bryan Dair's avatar

Everyone was told that they saw planes hit the buildings by 'witnesses'

that were all media plants. No one saw any actual aircraft hit any buildings,

because it is impossible. The videos were all CGI. It is impossible for an aircraft to completely disappear into the side of a steel framed building like it was flying into a cloud.

It is impossible that there could be four successful hijackings on the same

morning in the US. None of the alleged 'hijacked' planes squawked the four digit

emergency code on their transceivers. There is no evidence of any 'hijackers' passing through airports or boarding their respective flights.

It is impossible to have hijacked planes flying wildly off course for hours undetected in U.S. airspace.

It is impossible that a hijacker could operate an airliner, navigate it across hundreds of miles, and hit a specific target dead on.

The Mainstream narrative on 9/11 is a fabrication.

They do not have three men in custody still awaiting trial after all of

this time. There was never any real investigation, and no one has been

held accountable.

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daverkb's avatar

Once I had looked at the satellite photos taken immediately after the event and saw seven buildings destroyed and nothing around them with any appreciable damage, I knew it could not be airplanes as causation. Nope! Whether airplanes struck or not ... 2 airplanes cannot explain 7 buildings being wiped out.

I don't understand why some people have such a hard time doing simple math?

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Bryan Dair's avatar

The giant circular holes from the rooftop to the basement of WTC 6

defy explanation. Whatever demolished those buildings is a technology

that we the people are not allowed to be aware of. The only place I have

seen anything like it is in the movie 'Independance Day'.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Indeed. People don't want to deal with this. They want to be comfortable with the narrative explanation. (Where have we encountered that before?) "After eliminating all plausible explanations, whatever remains, however implausible, is the truth."

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Politico Phil's avatar

I guess we need to post a list of all 7 buildings so people can believe their lying eyes.

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daverkb's avatar

I really cannot believe some of the stupid stuff on display today ... in the column and in comments. I really do think that the United States and the Western World have no place to go other than to burn itself out ... scorched to bare earth.

You know how it is said that evil cannot be reformed, only displaced. That's like saying Rome fell and the Christian West rose. Of course, it's never that simple. But perhaps ... and maybe ... the basic story line.

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Politico Phil's avatar

That's what I see and so poorly try to express.

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daverkb's avatar

None of us are an island perfect in repose nor in activity, in word or in thought. And this then is the best reason for Liberty, that fools cannot overly impose upon the wise, nor wise overly fool themselves into thinking that they be paragons of perfection. And so, on.

And this is the lesson of my life, that none of us can be more than what God gives us to be.

(But then again, there's always DeWife ... and apple pie and vanilla ice cream! What a splendid Saturday night that will be!)

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Bryan Dair's avatar

I wish we could post photos in these threads.

I have the evidence on my computer.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Right? Judy's book is full of photos. Even the video is narrative destroying.

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Politico Phil's avatar

But "they" saw it! A TOTAL fabrication.

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Mary's avatar

That’s absurd. Go on YouTube and watch all the mobile phone vids of the carnage. Do you realize how many people would have to be in on your scenario? And all agree to be liars in the extreme? Till they die? No.

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Bryan Dair's avatar

The carnage was a controlled demolition of 7 buildings,

all within the WTC complex, while no building without a WTC prefix

collapsed. If you look at the photos and videos of the 'aircraft impact' holes, you will see that there is minimal structural damage and there is no raging inferno. The WTC towers were not structurally compromised and their collapse in near free fall defies the laws of physics absent a controlled demolition of some type.

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