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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

re: I do think some of the down ballot candidates could have run better campaigns and potentially overcome the fraud, if any.

Im going to get straight to the point.

I don't know quite how to say it to someone who apparently has their head in the sand - utterly refusing to see the fraud.

Our "elections" are manipulated, they are manipulated with programmable machines and massive mail in ballot fraud, both set upon the American people over almost 4 decades to take over our country. When you can understand that, then we can have a conversation about what to do about it. In the meantime, where do you live, how old are you, male or female?

Trump has massive coat tails from the past 8 years, except for the massive manipulation of the election.

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Pelopidas's avatar

Daniel, telling someone you’ve never met that they have their “head in the sand” is not a great way to get a conversation started.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I understand that, but it is necessary to get to reality and if it takes saying some difficult things, then I will say them. You have made posts which completely ignore the massive fraud in our elections and so I have to call you out rather than play along. Did you read the Nickson article I posted at the top of this thread? PLease, I urge you to read the entire thing and watch the videos she linked in it.

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Pelopidas's avatar

You attribute things to me that I never said or even implied. Ex: “You’ve made posts which completely ignore the massive fraud…”. I’m perfectly willing to discuss election fraud. But, combating straw men is not my idea of time well spent.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Here are 4 of your statements which led to mine about ignoring massive fraud:

a. If so, I think there could have been fraud, though I’ve not seen the direct evidence.

b. Even so, I’m sure there was less fraud than in 2020 because of heightened scrutiny.

c. I do think some of the down ballot candidates could have run better campaigns and potentially overcome the fraud, if any.

d. ... In some races this was enough, in others it wasn’t.

Those statements are indicative of someone with their head in the sand, or perhaps so indoctrinated by the lying media, that they simply cannot see the truth of what happened in 2020, 2022 and 2024.

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Pelopidas's avatar

Daniel, there you go again.

I’m pretty sure there was more fraud in 2020 (10 million Biden voters disappeared), so that’s not exactly controversial. I’m also certain down ballot candidates could have run better campaigns. That is just being honest and realistic. “In some races this was enough, and in others it wasn’t” referring to running strictly on Trump’s endorsement v. working harder to establish your own credentials and brand is self evidently true, because, as I said, “in some races it WAS enough, it others it wasn’t” as the results showed.

So, I’d appreciate it if you would stop stating that my heads “in the sand”, attributing to me things I did not say, and twisting the things I did say.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Again: Our "elections" are manipulated, they are manipulated with programmable machines and massive mail in ballot fraud, both set upon the American people over almost 4 decades to take over our country. When you can understand that, then we can have a conversation about what to do about it. In the meantime, where do you live, how old are you, male or female?

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Pelopidas's avatar

Your inquiries are inappropriate. You should contain them.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

No, they are completely appropriate, I live in Cochise Az, male, 66 years old, 34 years in the Army.

You seem to want to hide behind a made up name.

Your turn.

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Pelopidas's avatar

No one asked you. Have you considered that?

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

This is the best deep thread I have ever seen! Thank you both for not resorting to name-calling.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

This is the best deep thread I have ever seen! Thank you both for not resorting to name-calling.

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