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Jeff C's avatar

Jeff Childers wrote, "Honestly, I am no Putin fan, but..."

I wish people didn't feel compelled to say this before saying anything complimentary about Putin but I understand how the game is played. As much as it's heresy to say, I am becoming a Putin fan but then I'm grading on a curve compared to Clown World's leaders.

Putin is thoughtful, historically knowledgeable, and articulate. He's a Russian patriot who actually wants to improve conditions for Russia's citizens. He claims to be a Christian (which I question) but it's clear he has respect for Russia's historical Christianity and has furthered its influence in Russia. He was relentless is wrestling the country away from the oligarchs who systematically looted and plundered Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. He has dramatically improved the standard of living for the typical Russian.

Yes he's no Thomas Jefferson. But compare what Putin has done for the people of Russia versus the West's leaders for the past thirty years. Talk about "democracy" is all well and good, but the bottom line is the results. Are a country's citizens better off or worse off during a leader's tenure? It's indisputable that Russians are better off, and the West's citizens are worse off.

Yet we are constantly told that this guy who actually loves his country (as opposed to the West's leaders who despise their country) is the new Hitler. It's all so transparent and stupid.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Well said Jeff C. I have more respect for Putin than I do for clinton, obama, and biden put together. Does that mean I like him, don't know him. But he has shown more intelligence and dignity, than the above mentioned bozos. Who I do believe want to destroy America.

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L  Young's avatar

Clinton said a long time ago that we (meaning he) thought that a strong America was bad and that he wanted to weaken the country. I think he succeeded but he’s a neophyte compared to the current anti-president.

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Eric Sowers's avatar

Damn skippy. I'd be up for an even money swap, but the Russians would never go for it.

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SadieJay's avatar

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Jeff C's avatar

The question no one asks (in polite company at least) is why do they all hate Putin so much? It seems pretty obvious to me when you look at what the propagandists share in common. Two obvious ones are 1) unilateral support of Israel and 2) support of the homosexual/depopulation agenda. Number one is shared by virtually every Putin critic (as it is for all neocons), number two is shared by most of them. So why is that? Weird.

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daverkb's avatar

They hate Putin because Putin stand in 'their' way of tearing down Russian and Christian morality. 'They' rather embrace the Luciferian Code of 'do what thou will' ... and skip along happily murdering, lying and looting.

By the way, Jeffery Sachs in the Tucker interview says that 500,000 Ukrainian soldiers have died in the US/Russia/Ukraine War. This does not even begin to address the looting of the Ukraine by 'Western Interests'.

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

I think the number is higher. I am always suspicious when the number hits a certain threshold and then remains static. For more than a year, they've said 500 - 600K dead in Ukraine. What, no more deaths since? And now they are conscripting men in their 50s and 60s; men with Downs syndrome and diabetes. And of course now we see the gross propaganda pieces with the young women (with perfect hair, makeup and acrylic nails!) marching into battle in the camouflage unifoms.

Same with the 35K dead in Palestine, another static number for the last 4-5 months. But the Israeli government continues its assault on the civilian populations there. How many missing and unaccounted for? Assume they are all dead.

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daverkb's avatar

Reasonable Horses calls it a Clown Show Slaughter, and of course ... he is right. And the Cretin Clowns call the money and slaughter a 'good investment'! And the Congressional Clowns wave Ukrainian flags and in a stupor monotonously cry out, Glory to the Ukraine!

Criminally pathetic.

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AJF's avatar

Beyond sickening....

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daverkb's avatar

Everyone is fed up to the gills. A horror show.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

It's a clown show slaughter.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

I wonder who's looting the vaults where our gift cards for Zelensky are stashed. What an outrageous disgrace.

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Coolguy 007's avatar

Remind me what is worth "looting" in Ukraine? Grain? Sunflowers? Watermelons?

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RU's avatar

Sorry to reply to multiple of your comments in one day, but I tend to agree with what you write.

Anyway, the way I see it in broad terms is: Marxism and all its variants - socialism, communism, fascism - are European creations. The neocons are the intellectual offspring of communism (Trotsky's version, specifically). And the gay/trans agenda and depop agenda are also developments of Marxist ideologies (oppressor/oppressed & population micro-mgmt), and European in origin.

Israel is a British concern and a key cog in their divide-and-conquer strategy. Russia has long been a target/obsession of the British. They want to conquer, divide up, and colonize Russia to take its land and resources (that probably sounds familiar to Africans). Of course, England is the big boss of Europe.

So, it seems to me the neocons (neoliberals are mostly the same TBH) actually work for Europe. It's who they report to. This is why they are all aligned on all these issues: Marxist religious ideology and loyalty to Europe above America. They believe Marxism is morally superior to capitalism. They believe all the forms of perversion are morally superior to traditional values. They believe Europe is better than the US. Not just different, but better, more "evolved." Talk to most everyone leading a F500 co. and you will find they share these beliefs.

This is why they hate Putin so much. He does not share these Marxist beliefs. In fact, Putinism is what is replacing their beloved communism in Russia. It's succeeding where communism failed.

And it's why in reality we in the US have had taxation w/o representation for decades now. Our leaders are actually working for a foreign entity. It's also why our generals dress up in high heels and pose as furries online. Europeanism and Marxism.

It's all going to come crashing down b/c Marxism in all its forms is diametrically opposed to flourishing at any level of society, individual through to the whole. It's a Ponzi scheme system that always fails, after causing massive damage.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Time to throw some more tea into Boston harbor.

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RunningLogic's avatar

While I agree with you on some points (Marxism and communism serving as a framework for some of the beliefs of the neocons and co) I would disagree with this assertion:

ā€œOf course, England is the big boss of Europe.ā€

I would argue this is not true, there has always been strong opposition to Britain from other European countries on many levels (and vice versa), and Brexit wouldn’t have happened if Britain really was the leader of Europe. They’ve actually been the outlier on a lot of policies.

I also think the structures and language of Marxism etc are just another facade of ideology when ultimately it doesn’t matter what it’s called. These people simply want control, and it doesn’t actually matter to them how they get it or what ideology allows them to get there. Marxism and communism are the ideological version of useful idiots.

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RU's avatar

Hard to discuss these things in a comments section, but I don't disagree with anything you've written. I probably didn't express my thoughts well.

My point was England is the biggest financial center, hence the major player (since everything comes back to finance), and the latest empire. It seems to me the EU has been kind of rudderless since Brexit. And I think a lot of moves that have been made since were made to undo it. I think the Brexit and Trump situations have terrified the broader EU and its supporters. Despite Brexit, England still has a lot of influence within Europe. Not that they don't compete for power.

And, I totally agree, Marxism is a cover for the lust for power. Always was IMO, including Marx himself, who it seems was just a grifter who wanted power for himself that he didn't have. It's a system of central control, compared to capitalism, which is a system of dispersed control. Basically economic totalitarianism vs. economic democracy. Those longing for power will always be attracted to the systems that promise centralized control, even if they are not "true believers" themselves.

I was just trying to explain 'why' some things that seem to be disparate cluster together. The neocons are in love with leftist central planning ideologies - including the downstream "neo" ideas - that yield centralized control. And a really good way to implement a divide-and-conquer strategy. And I have come to agree with the folks who say England is more central to neoconservatism than we often give credit for.

Their core "trick" has been convincing large swaths of the low information public - including most corporate execs at this point - that things like socialism and central planning are morally superior and better, when they're really not. We're moral creatures. To me that's the way out of this - to show the immorality of Marxism and all its follow-on neo-isms. Break the spell.

Thanks for the convo!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Very thoughtful and interesting comment, as always, thank you!

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JT's avatar

Personally, I think "they" hate Putin because "they" need an enemy against which they can rally Americans. They need someone to blame for all the bad things that happen in the world and they need someone to blame for their failures at home. Plus, they need a reason to continue funding the military-industrial complex which in turn funds all the congressional slush funds on both sides of the aisle.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes, I think this is accurate.

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Astragale's avatar

Jeff C - they hate Putin & Trump because Putin & Trump are the 2 leaders blocking the path to a One World global government.

The WEF-CCP knows that ALL the other national ā€œleadersā€ can be bought or blackmailed.

But not Trump & Putin.

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LMWC's avatar

I believe they hate Putin because the baby boomers were brought up with the idea that Russia is the nuclear threat that would wipe us off the map. The same tactics were used to make many hate Trump. Lie and slander and twist facts. However, Putin is playing both sides. His oligarchs were getting billions for uranium deals mined on American soil and funneled back to Russia. That would be the Clinton foundation. I highly doubt he had no knowledge of this deal.

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CitizenA's avatar

Stop throwing all Baby Boomers into the same basket. Baby Boomers are as diverse as other age brackets. You can see that here on C&C as many are of that age. People are made up of individuals and should be looked at as such; not putting everyone in a box and making a declaration of how they think or feel.

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LMWC's avatar

I stated my opinion. I am allowed to do such. I also have no way of knowing who is a baby boomer unless they specifically state as such or their age. Since the baby boomer generation is listed as those born 1946-1964, it covers almost 20 years. I am at the older end while my youngest brother is at the youngest end. Our opinions are vastly different. But among my age group when the Cold War was heating up, nuclear war was always threat. Still, it is my opinion and I stand by it.

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

Case in point: my in-laws and my parents are the same age, but one set thinks Putin is literally Hitler (why? because ā€œPutin badā€) and the other set has a much more nuanced view we’ve seen throughout C&C posts and comments. Also, one set is welcoming to the many C&C posts I have sent their way and the other set still thinks Fox News is a conservative news source. So. šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

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CitizenA's avatar

I see the same thing as you describe Susanna, all around me.

(I cannot LIKE ā™„ļø your post due to that option is not functioning; … for many of us. But I do like your post.)

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A.J.'s avatar

I think it goes back to the old Great Game of Europe from petty warlord thuggery from a Hapsburg with one castle above a choke point on the Rhine River in Switzerland close to an old Roman Empire army fort on that river to literal multi-nation empire building efforts through intermarriages to conquests and alliances ever since the Roman Empire fell, the Holy Roman Empire of Catholics arose, and its ongoing schism with the Eastern Orthodox church now rising again in Russia.

Euro-American leaders look today at globes and like children freak out at the geographic size of Russia (and China, too) always forgetting most of those 2 countries' land is not highly arable. Loess lands in China are badlands, lots of big deserts in China, while most of Siberia is not farmable. Both countries historically are often on the brink of mass starvation. Hence, the reason Russia must have Ukraine as an ally or at least a neutral or friendly nation given it is the breadbasket of Europe as well as hosting ice-free Navy and trade ports. And, ditto why China deeply fears to its core having its trade routes on land or sea controlled by any nations who want it kept weak as NATO's founding principals expressly declare for Russia.

I never forget NATO, EU and ICC headquarters are in Belgium and the Netherlands, "neutral" nations created out of thin air from the remnants of other nations after the end of the Napoleonic Wars. Netherlands happy until its last elections to seize farm lands for global climate fear-porn. Belgium's borders enclosing Flemish and French speakers were drawn *for* the convenience of that war's top victors: the UK and some small German nations who treated Russia then as a hopelessly backward nation. So similar to WW1 victors carving up the Mideast for their own convenience drawing lines through every strong ethic group to weaken them.

Guess where the Belgian and Dutch gold reserves ended up after WW1 and WW2? Note what rivers meet the sea at The Hague and Amsterdam. Coincidence? at the end of the Napoleonic Wars the VOC, the world's oldest corporation, was magically dissolved and its assets ended up in the Dutch royal family's bank accounts.

The Belgian royal family was in fact created and installed by then UK powerhouse which selected the widower of its dead Crown Princess Charlotte to be Belgium's first king: King Leopold 1. He was also the blood uncle of Queen Victoria's husband Albert, both men from the poor and small German Saxe Coburg Gotha duchy. Leo 1 quickly spawned King Leopold 2, the slaver of the Congo as depicted in Conrad's "Heart of Darkness. Leo 1 also spawned Empress Carlotta of Mexico who was married off to Maximillian, a brother of the then Austro-Hungarian Emperor and WW1 leader Kaiser Franz Joseph. Max & Carlotta were installed as rulers of Mexico during the US Civil War strongly supported by Belgium, UK, France and Franz Joseph.

Those kinds of titular "leaders" and their enablers/profiteers are ruthless and don't care one whit for any "populace" on the planet. They feel entitled to rule always over other humans and literally use them, too, as "dumb peasants" or actual slaves. They have insatiable desires for ever more power. Psychopaths one and all. Exactly like narco-terrorist mafias using thuggery to intimidate, manipulate, and defeat any opponents.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Great historical perspective and excellent points!! I do think a lot of this is an effort by those people historically in power through their dynasties of ā€œaristocracyā€ to wrest back full control.

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A.J.'s avatar

They never give up until they loose a big war or get executed while their "bankers" merrily roll on funding their Great Game Exploits. UK tried to get back the USA as a colony in the 1812 War. Then again by it with help from France, Belgium and the Austro-Hungarian Empire sending Max & Carlotta to Mexico during our Civil War to try to grab back big chunks of Old Mexico won by the USA in the Mex-American War. Max, a brother of Austro-Hungarian Emperor Franz Joseph (who was a key sleepwalker into WW1) and Carlotta, a daughter of Belgian King Leopold 1 and a niece of Queen Victoria's husband.... a Big Game in the 1860s for Euro ruling families and their bankers to try "officially" to control all Mexican customs/import taxes but really just a cash and land grab attemot. Abraham Lincoln financially supported Benito Juarez who fought and beat the Euro-royals.

This Sunday Mexico elects a new president for a 6 year term. To date this election cycle 36 mayorial and other candidates have been assassinated, the kind of mess royals and their ilk constantly use as an excuse to be "benevolent" tyrants. The 3 lead presidential candidates have had 3 debates since April this year. I wishing Mexico well on Sunday.

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Ruth H's avatar

They should transfer that hate to Xi who is systematically planning the destruction of the West, primarily US. All the Chinese military-age men crossing our border every day did so with Chinese permission and also our dementia ridden puppet president.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Hating all things Russian is part of our US DNA. We have to hate Putin. Just like we have to trust our overlords. We can not fathom agreeing with Putin any more than we can imagine our government destroying this country.

Cue the Rude Awakening. Come Lord Jesus!

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

The only reason the hate Mr Putin is because they read it in the captured MSM of choice.

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RunningLogic's avatar

ā€œ1) unilateral support of Israelā€

By whom, specifically?

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Jeff C's avatar

Your comments are always intelligent RL, so I think you are messing with me here. There is a 99.9% overlap of those pushing Ukraine who are also Israel-first neocons. I can't think of a singe Ukraine hawk who doesn't also want to throw billions at Israel.

Go down the line on the GOP side; Johnson, McConnell, Rubio, Cotton, Graham, Haley, etc. It's the same on the Dem side with Schumer and his ilk. Plus the entire foreign policy and pundit crowd: Blinken, Nuland, Kristol, Podhoretz, Shapiro, and all of the others. If they are pushing Ukraine they are also pushing Israel. There are a few that support Israel but have not said much about Ukraine, but none the other way around that I can think of.

So why is that? Do war-mongers just tend to love mayhem no matter where it's happening? Perhaps. A more likely explanation is that Israel sees a Russian defeat as in its interests due to Russia's historical animosity towards Israel and Jews in general. Clearly everything coming out of Ukraine has been a lie for two solid years yet Lindsay Graham still spouts nonsense about fighting for Ukrainian democracy. No one is this stupid, he knows what he's saying is completely false but he still does it. Why?

There are plenty more examples in the last thirty years where the US ended up in wars where it didn't belong, all of which worked to Israel's interests to destabilize its enemies. Serbia, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and now Ukraine. They've been agitating for war with Iran for the last twenty years. It didn't used to be like this.

The best explanation I can think of is that Graham is compromised, probably by Mossad (ala a Jeffrey Epstein-type set up). There are plenty more like him.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you for your response.

I was not actually messing with you, and am sorry that you had that feeling. I misunderstood who you were talking about, which is why I asked that question, in order to clarify if I’d understood correctly (clearly I had not). I thought you were not just taking about certain Americans (mostly neocons) but also about countries in Europe. I appreciate your clarification.

I would argue though that there are a fair number of Democrats who only pay lip service to supporting Israel but don’t really in reality. The people behind the pallets of cash to Iran certainly weren’t helping the Israelis with that action, for example.

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TB's avatar

I wonder if some of them hate him because they wish they could run their own country the way he does but aren't competent and liked enough to make it happen?

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Alan Davis's avatar

I agree, stop the clarifying comment.

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WP William's avatar

To clarify, i approve of the prior clarification

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AngelaK's avatar

I actually made a post about the same thing!

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Politico Phil's avatar

Exactly. "It's indisputable that Russians are better off" and the Russians fully know this and are very grateful for Putin's leadership after the fall of the Politburo and the ensuing chaos of the following years.

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OnTheJump's avatar

There was a time, not so long ago, when many Russians wanted so badly to come to America to live.....not so much, anymore.

Let's go Brandon.

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L  Young's avatar

I have a friend moving to Russia with his Russian wife. He claims everything is cheap, the people are friendly and it’s beautiful……

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OnTheJump's avatar

....he's right.

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Holly Champaign's avatar

One of Putin's avowed enemies is George Soros. I'm probably not alone in saying I'd choose Putin over anyone associated with George Soros, any day.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Well said.

It may surprise many people that, under and as a result of Putin's leadership, very many Western families (and single folk) have chosen to move to Russia in recent years. A simple YouTube search substantiates this.

Why?

Seems to be for many of the reasons spoken about and debated right here on C & C.

Go woke, go broke.

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AJF's avatar

Yes, Russia is a family oriented Christian country.

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daverkb's avatar

I find it an outrage that anybody has to tippy toes around on the subject of Putin with obligatory displays of virtue signalling and grand shows of 'plausible denial' of endorsement. Consider that the United States (CIA/Deep States) has done nothing but pick wars on made up fairy tale pretexts, bullied the world using 'financial inducements and punishments' and styled itself into a planetary terror instrument ... even against its own alleged 'citizens'. There is no 'democracy' in the United States, no rule of law and no liberty. Only enslavement. And yet, Putin is the Cartoon Caricature of Incarnate of Evil ... and we are supposed to swallow that one down whole?

The United States should have embraced Russia with open arms after the fall of the Soviets. But United States could not do so because the United States is a 'government' ruled over by Satanic Monsters. Putin has the respect of the rest of the non-Western world while the United States is rightfully despised and hated around the globe ... and with good reason.

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OnTheJump's avatar

It is truly unfortunate just how accurate your words are, davekb !

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daverkb's avatar

When I was a kid in the 1950s Greek and Roman genre films on the TV ... and I really wanted to how civilizations could possibly let themselves go to ruin when they had such a good thing going. I guess, and in retrospect, I should have been more circumspect in my wonderings.

If it gets to be too much, take some time out. Compare these two versions of the same song. Which do you like better ... or even is that a fair question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTbNCezCJNM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQUlA8Hcv4s

A patch of blue sky is always just around the corner. However, the question is now how much pain must be endured? A boat load of Bolshevik or Mao pain? A wheelbarrow of Madame Guillotine Pain? Pol Pot or fall of the Soviets pain? A city under seize pain? It seems there is always a price somewhere to be paid. And what goes around comes around.

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OnTheJump's avatar

While the young lady's rendition is good - I am an ELO fan from way back, and the Jeff Lynne and bandmates' original version is my preference.

As to blue skies ?

Somewhere.

Here's to "what goes around comes around" !

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daverkb's avatar

There certainly more heat in the ELO original. And to have to pick one over the other would be a false comparison. What is striking to me is that the two are so different ... and yet the same song.

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OnTheJump's avatar

"more heat".... I like that, lol.

Yeah - her sultry version has its place.

But if you wanna tap ur feat ?

Interesting fact - ELO has the most 'Top 40' hits, in the USA - without EVER grabbing the number 1 spot.

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daverkb's avatar

I did not know that. Thanks.

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Aloha50's avatar

100%. I was going to say the same thing but you already did. I know Jeff is a lawyer so part weasel (jest!) so prone to qualifying words, but regarding Putin he needs to stop with the 'I'm no Putin fan....' qualifier. No need.. it's not 2022. Most people know now Putin is the good guy.

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Eric Sowers's avatar

Concur! I'm a retired, certified Cold Warrior, but this isn't the Cold War. Russia is longer communist. I think VVP is aces, and by the way if you think he's a scary loose cannon, get a load of some of the Lindsey Graham type hopefuls wanting to replace him.

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Cindi's avatar

Yes, Jeff C., actions indeed speak louder than words & the actions of Putin for his country & the hatred our ā€œleadersā€ have for theirs is blatant. In addition, anything our demonic administration is against, I am FOR & vice versa.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Which is why Blinken wants to bomb Russia. Maybe we can get away with a minor incursion. Maybe we can walk into rattlesnake pits and not get bit. Maybe Tulsi Gabbard should be Trump’s running mate.

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AngelaK's avatar

I fear his welcome if Nikki warmonger Hailey, and am starting to fear the bad advice he may listen to regarding foreign policy and Russia.

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Susan G's avatar

Yes!!!

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Not Me's avatar

I agree Putin has done a lot for the Russian people. But if you buck him you fall off balconies.

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Butterfly2510's avatar

Well you get suicided here. So, there’s that.

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Michael Framson's avatar

There's corruption & balconies in any form of government. We are just more self-righteous. Democracy.

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carily myers's avatar

56 and counting of "friends and associates".

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Robin Greer's avatar

And I know personally many people from Russia who left there and came here and would never go back under any circumstances. They lived in very poor conditions and had little food and extremely poor healthcare. Imagine becoming ill and being hospitalized and forced to drink your own bile. I disagree with putting any communist/socialist country on a pedestal. No matter what the situation looks like here (at least for now) I would not want to change spots with the average person in Russia. Just adding a different perspective.

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AngelaK's avatar

šŸ’ÆšŸ‘

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Covfefe Lady's avatar

And Putin, like Trump, has been strongly vocal against global human trafficking. Two of the most hated leaders on the planet due mostly to false narratives believed by people who don’t research on their own. Powerful anti new world order Christian men who clearly love their countries.

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SadieJay's avatar

I agree 100%. He dwarfs the clowns in our government. WTP are not those in the swamp. I don't lay claim to anyone in that place, and they do not represent ME. I respect Putin for his restraint under the taunt of idiots who are soon to fall, and fall hard. (Prayer hands)

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Lew's avatar

Very well - said!

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FH's avatar

I assert the current US administration declared war on its own people from the first day. 17 executive orders on first day, including shutting down domestic energy production (causing initial inflation spiral) and shutting down completion of the border wall. My recollection is hazy beyond that because the gestapo response to the spike protein virus and those who were inside the Capitol overtook everything in my mind. I just remember repeatedly shaking my head, had no inkling how fast and how far our sociopathic overlords would go.

Today an excellent segment in 2nd hour of Bannon’s War Room on how lawfare has frightened the bejeezus out of conservative lawyers, thanks in part to Project 65 and other efforts by the left. All of our heroic justices who hew to the Constitution are under attack, and not a peep out of groups like the Federalist Society. Jeff is our fearless hero!!! May more follow his example.

As for Congress: useless. And if we massively demonstrate against the escalation in WW3, we end up in prison without knowing the charges.

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Kim Davis

Sister Davis being the Rowan County clerk in 2015 (Northeastern Kentucky) defied the US Supreme Court ruling that legalized same sex marriage. She refused to sign marriage licenses to same-sex couples, citing her religious beliefs.

9 years after she is still in the hurdles of legal challenges by being forced to pay $360 K to the couple she denied marriage license.

The case is being now represented by Liberty Counsel and it’s very much to go up to the SOTUS.

Pray for her and the team of lawyers behind her!

https://www.facebook.com/share/BtyCPGkYJMNEnnZD/?mibextid=WC7FNe

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Based Florida Man's avatar

This is a good start. I've totally switched on this topic now that I've wised up to the damage it's caused.

Homosexuality is a mental illness and is sexually degenerate. We should no longer support the gay industry. Marriage should only be reserved for normal female/male couples.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Glad I am retired from the military since it has turned into a den of perversion.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

It's really a shame it's come to this. I think it really was amped up when Obama started purging the conservatives and replacing with DEI-types. And it's just ramped up from there.

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Vicki's avatar

Obama is married to a guy....Big Mike. He definitely introduced the perversion as a precursor to all the other mental illness that would follow. His goal has always been to destroy the U.S. He also purposely fueled all of the racial division. It was all part of a global plan to bring down the U.S.

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Emumundo's avatar

Obama also merged money designated for mental health with funds for jail diversion programs. This mingles people who should be in jail with those seeking mental health treatments. My friends grandson was at one of these facilities and was beaten so badly by someone who should have been in jail that he sustained permanent brain damage. When we were seeking mental health services for my son he was refused treatment at many places because he was NOT a convicted felon. So sad.

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Dawn B's avatar

Have you looked at other 1st ladies like Barbara Bush and Eleanor Roosevelt to name a couple? Just because they look like dudes doesn't mean they are, but drag is nothing new.

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Emumundo's avatar

He’s not being called Big Mike because of his physical looks. He’s called Big Mike because of the pictures with an appendage sticking out between his legs.

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Dawn B's avatar

Right. It's that thing that keeps popping up too.

Poor Joan Rivers but she liked to run her mouth.

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

Just because one is unattractive doesn't automatically make them a member of the other gender. Ugly can just be ugly.

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Dawn B's avatar

Of course. It was implied... "Just becasuse they look like dudes doesn't mean they are."

Who knows. They do have manly features and I could list a lot for both 1st ladies named.

It's just suspicion, but if we don't look at things carefully and question, we are just following what we are told as our controllers expect us to do... and most of never question.

Kinda like ALL the doctors over covid... It applies to everything.

How can we really blame them when we don't question things ourselves? They just followed their particular cult of medical technocrasy. People aren't the orchestrators but followers in multiple ways. It is mind boggling and for me, I have to constantly reflect on myself and what is right and true and realized there is nothing but Jesus I can count on.

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jmsmithmd's avatar

Not All the doctors over COVID…

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Dawn B's avatar

True not all doctors... IMHO... Do you know of any doctor that told you not to take the jab, didn't force patients to wear masks, or prescribed ivermectin? I don't.

They were compelled to do bad things or lose their license. A few lost their license like that midwife in NY we supported a while back.

I saw some docs speak out like Malone but he has shady history and association with big pharm.

I know several docs. One died suddenly from a heart issue, another from a brain bleed, the other caved and took the jab although he didn't want to. The other docs I encountered followed the narrative.

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I did not follow the narrative….My Ob pts were warned off of the jabs, I jousted with my hospital poobahs. In the end I took a jab to keep working, got a hot lot and a reaction, and when I got COVID, it was disabling. IVM kept me out of hospital. But I agree, many of my colleagues were sheep, and my peds colleagues continue to inject junk into kids, for money.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Watch, closely, the few brief videos of Michelle with *something* swinging behind her dress, just below waist level. Start with Michelle's appearance as a dancer on the Ellen Degenerate TV show: https://youtu.be/sXhJCsw0xC8

There are other videos available on Rumble.

You decide.

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Dawn B's avatar

Yes that is why I said that thing that keeps popping up... šŸ˜‚

He doesn't even tuck.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

It started with Clinton and his hatred for the military.

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rolandttg's avatar

You are right. I remember the condescension at every time he had to deal with them, even boring a plane or helicopter.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Active duty noticed too.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

@Kathleen, I think it started sooner than that. When they dissolved the Women's Army Corp and merged it into the Regular Army. I lived through that experience. It wasn't pretty.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

It was much better especially when boot camp was separate from the guys.

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Roger Beal's avatar

So now boot camp is structured like "Scouting America"?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yes, and it has been for awhile.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

wow I can't imagine what that was like. Another reason to be grateful to be old. lol

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randall stoehr's avatar

"Sneaked in like a shadowy thief in the night" is more appropriate.

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DEBORAH E. dds's avatar

I think it's been a den of perversion at least since the 80s.

I would post a link to a youtube video with an ex-wife of a general from the 80s but I fear it will be taken down..... but let me just say... it is a 3 hour interview naming names and giving new meaning to "tail-hook". The degeneracy has been flowing from the top for a very very long time. Ex wives do get a conscience and they talk.... like this lady who gives a play by play of the UN Rio de Janeiro conference in the 90s. complete with the government clearing the streets of the homeless by execution prior to the start of that conference and going from there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2o82bi3oMc&list=WL

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carily myers's avatar

Join the club. I retired USN in 1997, could see it coming. Women bosses who didn't know shitMy nephew got his ranger tab in 2019 and, thankfully, quit. Imagine the $ they had invested in him. He knew, just like I did.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I retired USN in 1999.

After the 1st Persian Gulf War, there was a real purge to get rid of people. The Army was brutal. I had a neighbor who was USN EOD/Diver and while on deployment in the Middle East, he was forced to retire with just a few months notice. Do you realize how much money they spent training him?

Another friend who was a helo pilot, was forced out at 17 years with a reduced retirement. Quite a shock because his son was just starting high school.

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Jeff C's avatar

See lots of self-identified liberterians saying, "I supported gay marriage but I never supported this..." and "I supported pot legalization but I never expected this would happen..." Same thing with gambling. Lol.

These people gleefully kicked out the moral constraints of society, constraints in place for thousands of years, without any regard or critical thinking regarding the unintended consequences of doing so. It's all so comical and totally predictable. Those constraints were there for good reason, either through hard lessons learned or divine revelation (depending on your perspective). Now they act surprised when things go to hell in a handbasket and society crumbles.

The good news is that those who were taught or learned self-control can be wildly successful in a society filled with hedonists addicted to chasing the next instant gratification (at least until things collapse). Of course it's terrible for society in general, but cream has a great opportunity to rise to the top.

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Jamie's avatar

When I was a teenager I didn’t understand why people were warning me not to encourage laws going into place for gay marriage and such… a slippery slope they said, without explaining to me what they meant or giving me an idea of what that looked like, so I thought they were just being hateful.

I eventually learned what they were concerned about and now see manifesting in such evil ways.

I will not allow people to hurt children. Not one. Not ever.

This is my living amends.

I encourage everyone to have the information and proof to, calmly and with pure motives, explain to any person that asks ā€œwhy notā€ (as I did) exactly what that slope can look like…

I have done this with success. I often get the same response: ā€œI had no idea people were doing that or even could, now I understandā€. šŸ™Œ

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Debbie Wagner's avatar

I had several online and personal conversations where I warned of where the legalization of same sex ā€œmarriageā€ would lead.

All I heard back (from the short sighted and undiscerning) was ā€œlove is loveā€, or ā€œhow is this hurting you?ā€, or ā€œ what you are saying (fill in the blank) would never happen!ā€ , or they just want ā€œequalityā€.

Some people live in a fantasy world of what they wish life to be, and they never think beyond it. Those of us who foresaw the looming disaster have been heartsick to see our worst fears coming true. And, it is continuing to get worse every day.

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Jeff C's avatar

This is exactly why I've come to believe the Bible is the inspired, infallible Word of God. Either that or it was composed by the wisest, smartest people that ever lived (and there's little proof of that).

The Bible provides behavioral guardrails for life that are spectacularly successful if followed. People who adhere to them prosper in every way, spiritually, emotionally, physically, financially, and in their relationships. If one follows Biblical morality they really can't help being successful in life, it just happens.

Yet modern society is too sophisticated for that (or so they tell themselves) and think that happiness comes from material possessions and who they fornicate with. Traditions are foolish, and aren't the accumulated wisdom of generations.

Unsurprisingly instead of success they leave a trail of broken people and wrecked lives in their wake.

This stuff is not new and has been known for thousands of years. The consequences of ignoring it have been known for thousands of years. I learned my lessons the hard way but fortunately only needed to do so once (all glory to God). Some people never do though.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Proverbs 2:3-15

Yes, if you cry out for discernment,

And lift up your voice for understanding,

If you seek her as silver,

And search for her as for hidden treasures;

Then you will understand the fear of the Lord,

And find the knowledge of God.

For the Lord gives wisdom;

From His mouth come knowledge and understanding;

He stores up sound wisdom for the upright;

He is a shield to those who walk uprightly;

He guards the paths of justice,

And preserves the way of His saints.

Then you will understand righteousness and justice,

Equity and every good path.

When wisdom enters your heart,

And knowledge is pleasant to your soul,

Discretion will preserve you;

Understanding will keep you,

To deliver you from the way of evil,

From the man who speaks perverse things,

From those who leave the paths of uprightness

To walk in the ways of darkness;

Who rejoice in doing evil,

And delight in the perversity of the wicked;

Whose ways are crooked,

And who are devious in their paths;

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Debbie Wagner's avatar

I couldn’t agree more. It seems each generation thinks it’s smarter than the ones before. They want to rewrite all the rules to accommodate and justify their own desires. It’s evil perverse, and anti-God.

Clearly, we are seeing the rotten fruit of that now.

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Lot and His Daughters

Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. One day the older daughter said to the younger, ā€œOur father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.ā€

That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

The next day the older daughter said to the younger, ā€œLast night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.ā€ So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab; he is the father of the Moabites of today. The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi ; he is the father of the Ammonites of today.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Actions 100% prohibited by the words of Leviticus 18.

The chosen folk corrupted their own lineage, repeatedly, back as far as Noah.

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Jeff C's avatar

What's your point Bryan? If it's that the Bible contains descriptions of unpleasant activities then that's no surprise to most of us here as we've actually read it. If you are trying to claim that the Bible condones sinful behavior then you are wasting your time. Save it for the biblically illiterate.

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Bryan Dair's avatar

The bible appears to condone incest, polygamy, rape, slavery, and genocide.

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Jeff C's avatar

Wrong, the Bible has stories of people who engage in these activities and it destroys their life. The Bible is explicitly clear all of these are sinful.

After you pass through your libertarian, atheist, rebellion against your parents stage, and have actually grown up some, come back and talk to us. We don't have time for people who cherry-pick out of context passages attempting to show off who have never actually bothered to read the book.

Edit: After rereading what I wrote comes off as really harsh and I didn't mean it that way. I was exactly where you are thirty years ago. If you want to productively argue a specific point where you think the Bible condones evil then go for it. But saying the Bible vaguely "appears to condone" certain evil when it says in no uncertain terms not to do these things is disingenuous. If you want to say it's contradictory in places then you have to consider context to see if it truly is. You cannot persuasively claim stories of people's misbehavior are the same as telling people to do something, particularly when other places in the Bible say don't do it.

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TB's avatar

You know who the Moabites and Ammonites are in the bible, right? The major rivals of Israel? Yeah, this is basically the ancient equivalent of "your mommas are such wh*res, they even banged their own dad".

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Roger Beal's avatar

Read Leviticus chapter 18. Predates Jesus's birth by centuries.

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Clyta Bolze's avatar

So well put! šŸŽÆ

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rolandttg's avatar

Agree. Never had any problem with consenting adults doing what ever they wanted with each other. What's changed, and what's wrong, is this deranged jihad to normalize virtually any behavior and lifestyle. Common sense will tell you that if males don't couple with females, humanity ends, so that is normal . I didn't make the rules of Nature.

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Ed Thorrens's avatar

Common sense is not common anymore, unfortunately.

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Bandit's avatar

It never was, BUT there were enough people that would/could follow good advice that it was a small minority that did the bad things!

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RU's avatar

I think they crossed a clear line when they started targeting kids. I think that will be their downfall. I think most people can handle the less than 1% weirdos/pervs that live in the shadows - just ignore them and laugh about it. Arrest them if they cross the line. That is, so long as they don't try to indoctrinate kids. Well, that line has been crossed and now has left/liberal gov't support behind it.

Drag queens in schools? And the "libertarian" candidate is for this? What world is this? Are they the libertarian party or the libertine party?

What cannot continue will not continue. The more they keep rolling with this attack on the foundation of humanity itself, the bigger the blowback is going to be. Going to be a lot of "conservatives" who stood silent throughout this that find themselves primaried out of their job.

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Kitkat's avatar

@RU I absolutely agree! Once they came after the kids, pretty much everyone woke up and said "H*LL NO!" Well, except for the AWFULs (Affluent White Female Urban Liberals) and their virtual signaling.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

You say that but there are many things that even consenting adults SHOULD NOT and ARE NOT even by wisdom allowed to do to one another. THERE ARE THINGS that MUST NEVER BE DONE to another. Abuse is abuse even if consented to and homosexually practices ARE PHYSICAL ABUSE!

The very same practices that they hate the opposite sex for they do to one another.... But better. šŸ˜œšŸ¤”šŸ˜£ It's FOR SURE ABUSIVE. Obviously there is heterosexual abuse too and if told they are condemned and tried. There is a wise moral law...we don't like the Law makers.

Jesus is lawmaker and judge. Get to know Him. The 'SUN' IS COMING SOON. Psalm 2

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Wonder if there's a rise in colon cancer among homosexuals......

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Debra S Heard's avatar

Males not coupled with females is exactly what WHO evil creeps want. Part of the depopulation control.

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SusanMc's avatar

God did.

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SusanMc's avatar

God ordained marriage between a male & female. Period. Man usurps God to sanction ā€œmarriageā€ to any other twosome. Man putting himself above God.

We live in a fallen world bc of a certain angel putting himself above God & his enticing Eve to go against God (& she enticed her husband to do so also).

Today the rebellion against God is rampant & even codified in manmade laws.

Pandora’s Box was opened years ago - tolerance for homosexuality started small & now we see where the inevitable progression has led.

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Ruth H's avatar

Bible also condemns any man who shall lay with another man.

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Bryan Dair's avatar

Where is marriage defined in the bible?

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John Bugni's avatar

Genesis2:24

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Bryan Dair's avatar

24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.

How does this define marriage?

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Roger Beal's avatar

Paul writes about marriage throughout his epistles and essays. Research it using one of the Bible websites that allows you to enter a key phrase and search for occurences.

Or just ask your pastor / priest ....

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Bryan Dair's avatar

Ephesians 5:22-24

Wives and Husbands

Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.

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TB's avatar

"... and therefore husbands must love their wives as Christ loved the Church, and gave His life for her."

At least read in context.

Not to mention other places where he writes that "the husband's body does not belong to him along, but to his wife" (which was shocking to readers of that era, who thought than men basically "owned" their families).

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TB's avatar

Matt. 19:

3 Some Pharisees came to him to test [Jesus]. They asked, ā€œIs it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?ā€

4 ā€œHaven’t you read,ā€ he replied, ā€œthat at the beginning the Creator ā€˜made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ā€˜For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.ā€

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Not to mention the trans nonsense. Tell me a person doesn't have mental problems when she tries to give herself a mastectomy! Of course, news articles call this person "he/him."

https://thefederalist.com/2024/05/30/a-woman-frantically-cutting-off-her-own-breasts-proves-we-need-less-gender-affirmation-not-more/

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Kitkat's avatar

That is so incredibly sad!! I don't understand how the "experts" say that cutting is a mental disorder, but yet when this young woman tries to cut off her breasts, all they scream is "we need more gender affirming care". WTH?! Cutting is still cutting and it's still a mental problem.

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AngelaK's avatar

Lord have mercy! These people are demonically influenced.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Go figure, right? Turns out Dad had ever reason to lay down the Law on this!

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Padrig's avatar

While I agree with you (how could I not agree with Based Florida Man?), I object to the necessity of a 'license' to marry. Given the divorce rates, the license is completely ineffectual anyway.

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MaryAnn's avatar

I heard a statement about marriage licensing: it brings government into the covenant of marriage, making it a three-way relationship. Had not thought of it that way.

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Padrig's avatar

This is very true, but I suppose it is progress that they us slaves marry at all. But then again, not really. The amount of control they exert for this privilege that they give us license to exercise is outrageous. They make it fairly easy to enter into this contract with them but nearly impossible to get out of it unscathed.

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ROKM's avatar

Did you see that the Episcopal Church is changing it's symbol to be gay friendly?

https://www.westernjournal.com/mainline-denomination-fully-capitulates-alters-logo-support-lgbt-pride/

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

The best non-judgmental description I once heard (and use myself) is that it is naturally occurring in small numbers, but non-normative (for obvious reasons -- couples can not reproduce).

Is it a disorder? For many I think it is, but for others it can simply be non-normative. In those cases, individuals should be able to lead a happy, safe and acceptable alternative life free from discrimination.

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Roger Beal's avatar

The gay industry has made the Pritzker clan very wealthy. There's serious money in mutilating children to "affirm" their delusions.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

and of course que up 'every single time' with regards to his religion

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WP William's avatar

FAKE Marriage, FAKE Border Security, FAKE Citizenship, Fake Genders, Fake Education with Fake History, FAKE Foreign Policy, Fake Economy based on FAKE money, Fake Leadership, Fake Food, Fake Climate Policy, Fake Refugee Crisis, Fake Democracy, Fake Judicial System, Fake Media, perhaps in large part based on Fake Compassion and Fake Love, Fake Religion, Fake Families. I need some Fake Health Care to assuage what's left of my incredulous American brains.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Plus .... Real wars based on fake premises.

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Not Me's avatar

You are spot on!

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CStone's avatar

She is my hero.

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Ed Thorrens's avatar

Pray for her!

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Ed Thorrens's avatar

She’s like Daniel in the lions den! Or the youths Sadrach, Mesach and Anednego.

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Ruth H's avatar

She also based it on the current KY law at the time as they railroaded her to do something illegal before the law was amended.

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Padrig's avatar

I wish I could double-like this comment. I wonder still why this argument was not made in her defense.

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Padrig's avatar

I'm no lawyer but as one sometimes forced into involuntary servitude to the judicial system, I have some thoughts.

1. She didn't defy a ruling of the supreme court. She wasn't even in the same state to which the ruling applied. The only ones that could defy the ruling were the government of California that made the law.

1a. This was a law by referendum which is the closest thing we have to democracy in this country. That the will of the people can be overturned by a majority of 9 should tell us something.

2. The supreme court doesn't make anything legal or illegal other than the law itself. Many decisions have only resulted in a re-drafting of the law that was found to be unconstitutional. That this law was not tells much about the system and its aims.

3. She broke no law in denying the marriage license. Actually, she was following the law of her state as it was at the time.

4. The "law" that she supposedly broke and was jailed for was made up on the spot by a single judge who served as legislature, executive, and judicial branches.

4a. This is a clear violation by the judge of the constitution which is ironic because SCOTUS rules on the constitutionality of laws. This judge read the opinion of SCOTUS and made his own law which applied only to a single person. Why do we allow this? Is it because we have been deceived into believing that our rights come from the Constitution when the document actually defines roles, responsibilities. and limitations of government entities?

5. She didn't need to cite religious beliefs. She should have just cited the law as it was on the books at the time. Then let the judge explain the reasoning for putting her in jail over... following the law.

5a. It is suspicious that this obvious legal defense was not used. I'm only an occasional juror charged with determining whether a law was broken but the whole thing feels rather contrived.

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

Oh my word. I literally laughed out loud 🤣

ā€œWhen he was the Prime Minister of Norway, we communicated often, and I am positive he was not suffering from dementia back then.ā€ - Putin

It’s brutally serious yet you have to somehow find some brevity or you’ll go crazy yourself.

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AngelaK's avatar

Putin has a brilliant sense of dry humour.

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

I agree! So does Trump, if one actually listens to him speak, not talking heads speak about him. The left has NO sense of humor. It is soo boring.

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TB's avatar

Maybe part of why Putin and Trump seem to understand each other. (Which IMO is a GOOD thing. They know where each other's red lines are.)

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Roger Beal's avatar

When you are like totally proud of your own awesomely magnificentl intelligence, you do not need humor.

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AngelaK's avatar

Different humour, but yes.

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shayne's avatar

The Jeffery Sachs interview on Tucker was illuminating with regard to Putin. I was reminded of the story I read about the North Vietnam leader before the war, who came to Washington to talk with the President about democracy because he was interested in learning about how it worked. He sat outside the Oval Office for a week waiting to talk with the President but was ignored. He left the US disheartened and not long after he met with the Chinese leadership to talk about Communism. The rest as they say is history. US leadership has made devastating mistakes, and fails to learn from past mistakes.

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Bandit's avatar

Yes! Think of all the dead because of that, too.

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shayne's avatar

Yes, I do too.

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A.J.'s avatar

Same one who was working in a Paris restaurant after WW1 ended and tried to wave the US Declaration of Independence under US President Wilson's nose at the Versailles Treaty talks?

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taxpayer's avatar

Putin is obviously a smart, serious, and articulate guy. We've had Presidents like that.

Also note his (much briefer) speech in honor of Border Guards Day. http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/74127

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Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

Brevity, AND levity, lol!

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WP William's avatar

He's had CoVid and various AstraSickenya boosters certainly though, throw that out there Vlad!

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Ruth H's avatar

It also seemed to me Putin was taking a snipe at Biden.

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Margaret's avatar

Good morning.

Here some verses that encouraged me this morning:

Isaiah 29, 19-21

Once more the humble will rejoice in the Lord;

The ruthless will vanish

the mockers will disappear, and all who have an eye for evil will be cut down -

those who with a word make a man out to be guilty, who ensnare the defender in court and with false testimony deprive the innocent of justice.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Just studied Revelations, Daniel, Isaiah, Amos and about to be done with Hosea. (*Online— Shepherd’s Chapel, Pastor Arnold Murray is the best!) It’s like reading tomorrow’s headlines TODAY! The same players are

involved, the same cities, the same stupidity where there ought to be wisdom and leadership, and the same cold, hard truth. As much as I’d miss C&C, and I really

want grandkids— I can hardly

wait for God to level the

playing field and serve up justice. Come quickly, Lord Jesus!

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Valerie's avatar

Oh that is a great one!

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Cailin63's avatar

ā¤ļø this! Thank you, Margaret!

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Tonya's avatar

A good heading for the story about the driver with the suspended license:

Michigan man vies for Florida man status

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

He’s got Florida man beat hands down with this.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Yesterday Jeff brought up the pier to give access to Gaza from the sea, at the cost of over a hundred million bucks.

I'm asking WHY do we need it? Who would stop the US military (or whoever) trucks that would simply drive in to deliver aid?

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Valerie's avatar

It was over $300 million and only lasted 10 days. They obviously didn’t spend the money on engineering…. Where did that money go? And while I’m at it, where did the money go for the EV charging stations that cost $1 BILLION a pop? Who is getting the money? Personally, I think it’s just a money laundering scheme to further enrich the rich with a goal of gutting our economy til it falls into a pile of debris.

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Roger Beal's avatar

That stuff is mere chump change. Our DOD misplaced two point three trillion dollars as of year 2001, according to that scion of foreign intrigue Donald Rumsfeld.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Daddy Warbucks?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Why does America always have to come to the rescue?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Exactly. But if the mission is to deliver aid, then why build a silly pier, when you can simply drive the aid directly to the site?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Because the Pentagon is full of idiots.

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

Obama purged most of the normal, intelligent top brass to make room for scum like Milley and Big Mike.

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Fabes55's avatar

My son, who was going to be a USAF lifer, got out when O started the great purge to "fundamentally change America".

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Fat Gen. Milley.

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randall stoehr's avatar

Albeit Non-useful idiots. With killer toy like push button missiles.

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SusanMc's avatar

Not if some connected friends or family members received some business contracts to sell ā€œbridgeā€ parts & supplies.

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Bluebird's avatar

IDF has a nasty habit of bombing Aid Workers driving in supplies. They don't want aid reaching the Palestinians. Starvation is just one of their methods of genocide.

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Roger Beal's avatar

The civilian/military casualty ratio in this conflict is one point one to one, which is commendably low, according to military historians and analysts.

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TB's avatar

I'm not sure I fully believe that figure, but even Hamas only claims it at about 2:1, which is still pretty "good" as wars go.

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Beckadee's avatar

From what I understand, the main road is at Egypt's border [Sinai Peninsula] Possible Israel has bombed areas but Egypt doesn't want all the refugees they then will have to provide for. So the border is closed.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

There's multiple access points from land. All are easier to use than spending a third of a billion dollars for a floating pier. The US could snap it's fingers and have access. So who's stopping them?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

There's multiple access points besides Egypt.

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Beckadee's avatar

List them please.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

This covers them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza%E2%80%93Israel_barrier

Any closed border can be opened, or a new access point created anywhere along the miles of wall, much cheaper than a third of a billion dollar floating pier.

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OnTheJump's avatar

It appears to be a VERY profitable side hustle, no. ??

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daverkb's avatar

I am beginning to think that America NEVER comes to the rescue. But instead is always looking for an excuse to loot and line the pockets.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Now if only America could come to the rescue of...America.

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randall stoehr's avatar

The SHOW OF SUPERIORITY is Rule #1.

Pride and Denial rule #1.5 !

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Robin Greer's avatar

And pride goeth before the fall. Hopefully, the fall won't be as bad a Humpty Dumpty.

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randall stoehr's avatar

Great reply. And perhaps the icing on the cakes for those who fostered fraud and deceit.

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MaryAnn's avatar

July will be interesting after a whole month of ā€œprideā€.

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Robin Greer's avatar

I try to not go anywhere that I will see that stuff. I'm usually pretty successful at avoiding it.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Complete stupidity is Rule #1.7

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randall stoehr's avatar

The dumbing of America is nearly complete. Be grateful our names not yet on that wretched list. šŸ‘ˆšŸ˜‚

Have a special day šŸŽ‰

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Bet we are on "other" lists.

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randall stoehr's avatar

To be Jabbed or un-jabbed: that is the question:

Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer

The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,

Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,

And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;

No more; and by a sleep to say we end

The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks

That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation

Devoutly to be wish'd. Hamlet Act 3 Billy Boy Shakespeare Hahhaha

No fooling around but there are Approx 37,000 people in the USA over 100 .

78% are women 22% men.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/01/09/us-centenarian-population-is-projected-to-quadruple-over-the-next-30-years/

10,000 turn 65 everyday in America. I like the math so far plus 6.

Your individual results might vary......So Don't check with your Doctor! Hahaha

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Staying out of hospitals will definitely prolong your life.

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randall stoehr's avatar

Yessss......and that data has proven statistical evidence more now than ever. Sigh....

Yup we got trouble, right here in River city......

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Bluebird's avatar

The irony is the US sends $billions to Israel to mass murder the citizens of Palestine. One wonders if this pier to deliver aid to Gaza was really built to work.

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Bryan Dair's avatar

Why are our tax dollars going to arm Israel so they can bombard Palestine,

and also going to aid Palestine because Israel is bombarding them with US munitions?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Because we have schizophrenics in government.

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Bryan Dair's avatar

Yes, we do.

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Bgagnon's avatar

Because it benefits those who make the decisions!

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

320 million to be exact. When did millions spent start to appear as harmless as thousands spent? It boggles the mind! Never have millions seemed like pocket change....until now.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Would love ME some of dat "pocket change".....

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WP William's avatar

It was a FAKE aid plan; "we don't need Egypt, we don't discuss with Israel, we BUILD A PIER for the WORLD to see we can't be stopped!!! We're Democrats who control America and the greatest military in history after all!" The DERANGED, unhinged Hate of the Union Speech put into action for us all to witness they mean business. NPR needs to do a story of how pregnant Palestinians are not receiving the abortion services they need during this time of genocidal razing of GAZA.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

"Hate of the Union Speech" LOL

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DEBORAH E. dds's avatar

oh, very good one! hate of the union speech!

I will probably steal it!~

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Politico Phil's avatar

Hello! This is all theater. The pier was simply a disposable stage prop. One pier is suppose to supply all the food, water and medical aid needed by millions of Gaza residents who are being continually bombed by the Israeli state guided by their US supplied AI targeting system? This war was planned and coordinated by the USG and Israel so Israel would have the excuse to turn the entirety of the Gaza population into refugees and then fully occupy Gaza as part of Israel. The Biden administration paid Iran billions in "aid" as payment for Iran's proxy organization Hamas to stage a faux terrorist attack while Israel stood down their IDF forces so the attack could produce the appropriate "stage effects" of a successful terrorist attack. It's all theater folks. And now the Biden administration is going to import the Gaza refuges into the US as part of their destabilization plans for America.

And let's be clear. If the USG was sincere about their concerns for the Gaza population, they would simply order Israel to cease their blanket bombing of the Gaza civilians and order Israel to begin humanitarian aid to the population or the USG would cut off all aid to Israel. That's not going to happen for obvious reasons. The USG is in bed with the Israeli government the same way a doddering old man is seduced by a gold-digging harlot!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Finally the correct answer emerges.

Thank you!

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daverkb's avatar

Yup! And hurray for Israel and the devil with everyone else.

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PNew's avatar

If a ship is too large to get close enough to shore, it facilitates loading/unloading by pier rather than smaller vessels.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Like all the other military hardware being transported there from the US, none of it needed a floating pier.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Chinook helicopters could do the job.

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daverkb's avatar

A third of a billion spent? Why not instead just demand that Israel open the border to relief aid trucks?

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TB's avatar

Because they would refuse, and then the US would look weak.

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daverkb's avatar

Israel would refuse. But also, Israel refusing and the United States not demanding humanitarian relief, this makes quite a statement to the world.

And I am thinking that the rest of the world already know that the United States is a house of cards. Ukraine failure, Afghanistan failure and Middle East failures make this abundantly clear. It's only a matter of time before more shoes fall.

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randall stoehr's avatar

Simple BFM, Those people who are desperate and have "nothing" left to lose.

You know...the own nothing and be happy crowds we have heard about.

They are here and there, and have been for a long time.....Sigh

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

I suspect it is (or the intent was) as a means for transporting the Palestinians out of their land 'for their safety'. There are many repatriation discussions going on. It's all part of the Greater Israeli Project which Netanyahu talked about in Sept 2023. Clear out Gaza, build beautiful beachfront properties, build the Ben Gurion canal (as an alternative to the Suez canal, so not dependent on Egypt or the Arab world). The native Palestinians stand in their way.

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Corkey's avatar

Phil Giraldi reported that the so called pier is literally falling apart. Great use of our money huh? Why doesn’t Israel pay to fix the destroyed Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore since they are such a great ally.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Because trucks can’t drive from America.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

What a retarded comment.

America is delivering tons of military crap to Israel, and that's really the problem, isn't it?

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rolandttg's avatar

Don't.. Acknowledge . It. Ignore it.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Why say fuckemall and not be delivering anything to anyone. Like the rest of the planet?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Being able to fly directly into Israel where it’s a permissive environment helps.

There is no secured area inside Gaza to land expensive cargo planes thus the need to build a sea port.

The two situations are very different.

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Michael Srite's avatar

Why not use Israel's port?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Possibility BUT you still have to drive through Gaza. Did you ever watch Blackhawk down?

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WP William's avatar

Well Biden might propose a bridge across the placid seas of the Atlantic with charging stations next...

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Give Bootygig a few billion dollars for that project, and South Park can create the project plan.

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Janet's avatar

Get Mayor Pete on the job.

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WP William's avatar

Pothole Pete, where every excused failure points to systemic racism and Climate Change

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

If you want it to fail, yes.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

He's already mentioned ambitious plans for a railroad track. "We have plans to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean."

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WP William's avatar

yes, that's a great idea along with a Chunnel from Key West to Havana

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

That would be possible if you ran it through Alaska and the chain of Islands in the oceans around Alaska to Russia but it would be a net negative on profitability.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

You don't think Biden's smart enough to figure that out, do you?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Biden? No.

He doesn't have to.

Trump wasn't smart enough to figure it out either but he would be smart enough to know to get people to work for him on the project.

I always tell people I don't know everything, but I do know someone who knows and can get an answer.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I actually agree with your comment.

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daverkb's avatar

Two Noodles! This why I call you Two Noodles. It's because you always give soggy answers.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I give logical and fact based answers.

Reminder, yesterday we all got nuked.

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Justin Bayne's avatar

This year's October Surprise may well be furnished by Russia. I'm no Putin fan either, but I must admit that his patience with our meddling in the war is quite something. But thanks to the strategic geniuses in the White House, I think that patience will soon end in a bid, scary way.

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AngelaK's avatar

I agree. šŸ’Æ A friendly aside: Please let's all feel free to give praise where due in the political sphere without having to predicate with " I'm not a fan" because I don't think that anybody is a true fan of any leader šŸ’Æ%, even Trump. 😊

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Justin Bayne's avatar

Good point. It's a good idea to keep all politicians at arm's length, even the ones who seemingly share our views.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Unfortunately, I think I know some people who are true, 100 percent fans of Trump.

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Padrig's avatar

Putin seems to understand that it is never advisable to react in the way that they expect.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

LOVE the NYT report on to bomb or not to bomb Russia. ā€œMr. Biden has remained silent as he often does when faced with a major policy decision such as, ā€˜Cream of Wheat or Quaker Oats this morning?ā€™ā€

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Jpeach's avatar

Poking (provoking) the Putin Bear and the Bragg/ Merchan/DOJ/Biden trial in NYC have a common theme. Keep Trump and MAGA from Winning the 2024 Election. If Trump is not derailed with this trial, Plan B (or C or D), is WW3. The Fog of War gives the Biden Regime options to postpone the Election.

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Susan G's avatar

Then our "democracy" will mirror Ukraine.

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daverkb's avatar

Actually, I am a Putin Fan ... for reason of a well administered and prosperous Russia. Check out Biden and the entire lying NeoCon Establishment, R and D alike, and it is no contest.

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Coolguy 007's avatar

Being a Putin's fan you must also be a novichok fan.

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

Yes, per the earlier comment and thread by Jeff C, I pause whenever I hear the preface "I'm no XXX fan, but ..." The left does that all the time whenever it finds itself agreeing with a person not on 'their' side.

In truth, at this point I am a Putin fan. He and his country have been relentlessly provoked by US/"NATO" for the last 35 years. NATO has expanded, from around 12 countries when the USSR fell in 1991, to over 30 today, after our solid promises we would not advance one inch to the east. We've completed surrounded them on their Ukrainian borders, with troops, special forces, bio labs, etc. They/he has shown amazing restraint under the circumstances. But it can't be expected to last forever.

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Justin Bayne's avatar

I do think that Russia has been needlessly provoked by NATO/US, but in my mind that doesn't justify Putin's actions. It amazes me that after Napoleon, WWI, and WWII we thought that Russia would fold like a cheap suit after a few thousand casualties. They're in it for the long haul. Negotiation is the only way out of this.

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Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

Seems like he's just watching his enemies destroy themselves, waiting for the right moment to finish them off...

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PE Bird's avatar

"The awful, terrible, no-good New York Times..."

Need to add "very-bad".

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

Your description of waiting for the Trump trial to culminate reminds me of birth. I don’t expect a joyful outcome, although I would love to see some heroic juror somehow resist the brutal pressure to convict. Not to trivialize at all but also feels like today is major block on the 2024 Bingo card and we’re all waiting for it to be unveiled.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Prediction: Trump gets convicted, the case gets tortured up to the Supreme Court, the Supremes reverse, and libs hammer that ruling as proof of extreme bias. Proto insurrectionist ā€œAbsalom would say, ā€˜Oh, that I were made judge in the land, and everyone who has any suit or cause would come to me; then I would give him justiceā€™ā€ (2 Samuel 15:4).

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LuAnne's avatar

I'm sort of leaning that way too. They'll get a conviction even though it's ripe for appeal and then all we'll hear from the Biden campaign and the media from now thru election will be "convicted felon Trump". I'll be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Good luck making all that happen before November 2024.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Stranger things are happening.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

It's how I felt for the first 3 months. I was always afraid they would fall asleep and not wake up. So I was always checking on them.

Maybe that's unusual?

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

Not at all! Five kids and both my husband and I still did this even with the 5th. I think it’s partly conditioning about SIDS, which isn’t really SIDS just like SADS isn’t really SADS. We didn’t have that risk factor but we still worried. Thanks, medical scare-mongers šŸ™„

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yeah, we had twins about a month early. Boy I loved those days...but like you said we were scared of SIDS

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

I don't know what to think about Putin because 98.6% of everything I have been told about him came from the same people who lied about Trump, Covid, Jabs, WMD's and a plethora of other issues.

Putin probably has some issues but they can't be any worse than the issues our elected politicians and their legions of unelected, over paid bureaucrats have.

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JohnS's avatar

I'm right there too CC. I see him as an effective leader who's also tough and ruthless. Lombardi with an army, so to speak. The all-powerful leader isn't a model I'd want to live under; but if I did, I can think of many who would be worse to have at the helm.

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WP William's avatar

Openly ruthless rather than Underhandedly so like our team of weasels

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KDB's avatar

My dad wrote a Substack post a couple years ago about his experiences working in Russia. He recalled a conversation he had while walking in St Petersburg, once one of the most dangerous cities in the world, but at that time perfectly safe.

ā€œWhat changed?ā€ I asked my guide.

ā€œMr. Putin changed things,ā€ he said.

ā€œAnd how did he do that,ā€ I asked.

ā€œI don’t know. He is KGB. They know how to do stuff like that.ā€

The Russians certainly don’t seem to have a problem with his ruthlessness.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Ahh, you are showing your (our) age when you mention Lombardi, I liked Landry.

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JohnS's avatar

As a lifelong Giants fan I still lament the fact that both were allowed to get away while the bumbling Jim Lee Howell remained.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Back in the days when pro football was fun. I haven't watched it since the early '90's.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Best insight would come from people who fled Russia and would never every want to return.

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Valerie's avatar

Y’all I have a new thought..... do you think the Democrats know that Biden is going to lose the election so they’re ruining the economy on purpose to blame it on Trump and republicans? Giving them years of steam for their ideas? Or no, still just doing this to usher in a supranational government?

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Neil Kellen's avatar

I am beginning to think the same thing - give Trump such a mess and then blame him starting Jan 22, 2025. The media will lap it up like the good little dogs they are.

If it plays out this way, Trump will have to go in with the biggest chainsaw he can find.

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WP William's avatar

Meille needs to gift him a giant one with fanfare

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Valerie's avatar

Yes, exactly! Make it as bad as possible so he has tons of work to do digging out before he can even start to improve things.

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SusanMc's avatar

And the Dems plus their RINOs & establishment GOP pulling out all stops to thwart Trump at every turn.

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

" The media will lap it up like the good little dogs they are"

And the general public will lap it up like the stupid, uncaring, vapid fools they are.

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JP's avatar

Yes.

That's why I have this "I identify as non Bidenary" tshirt šŸ‘‡ 🤣

t.co/foRV7Uk6Gc

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JW's avatar

Make a shirt and hat that says "You've Been Maga'd"

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AngelaK's avatar

It is a catchy phrase though!

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Tom's avatar

I'm looking for something a little more Orwellian . . . for these Orwellian times.

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Cynthia's avatar

1984 was meant to be a warning, not an instruction manual...yet here we are.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

They don't care. The Revolution is always first. Always.

If it seems like they're a bunch crazy eyed Ahabs on a maniacal quest for vengeance against The Great Orange Whale...it's because they are.

But even that is subordinate to The Revolution.

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Cindi's avatar

The country proved it was majority stupid re the scamdemic so it’s certainly possible a majority can be brainwashed into believing all the bad started in January 2025? We’re doomed

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

That’s the whole point of the propaganda arm of the federal government. To control the dopes that watch the television for news. So they’ve been lying for months now how bad the economy isn’t, all they have to do, if trump is allowed to win, is tell the truth. And then it becomes all pdt’s fault

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Nope. I’m pretty sure the fix is in, and 2000 mules will become 5 million mules. And because there is proof that gap toothed fat black pig from Georgia got away with her end of the hustle, they see no reason to stop. It’s all hands on deck, gear up the printers!

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A.J.'s avatar

My gut says "they" thought Biden would be another controllable useful idiot, ditto his vp, but trouble is "they" are all either blithering idiots or dumb tools of truly pyschopathic string pullers.

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SB's avatar

They think they'll win. Or I should say, they are determined to win. Even given the recent Bronx demonstration for Trump, I don't see how Trump is going to win CA or NY, 2 large electoral voting states. He still wasn't ahead in WI last I heard. I've heard the whole election could hinge on a single state like WI or MI or PA. Recent polls have Trump extending his lead in MI and PA. They thought they were going to destroy Trump in the courtroom, didn't work. I predicted months ago their efforts to stay in power would know no bounds. If the results look to be too in favor of Trump by August, watch out. Historically, when at war, people vote to keep the incumbent. I'm just sayin'...

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SusanMc's avatar

ā€œHistorically, when at war, people vote to keep the incumbent. I'm just sayin'...ā€

But THIS incumbent is totally different- obviously in need of home or institutional care. Even a segment of the uninformed masses know this, & that war under his ā€œleadershipā€ is dire.

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Blair's avatar

Biden (aka Briben) is now working with less than 128 bytes of RAM and can't finish a single sentence without ejecting an indecipherable word salad from his lips. We all know he hasn't made a single decision these past four years except what flavor of ice cream he would like when he finally gets up in the morning. Are madmen running the show? It sure seems like it. The congress is most likely impotent in these matters because the vast majority are benefitting financially from these decisions. They have dual passports and bunkers and are sophisticated "citizens of the world." Well, it's hard for me to look at someone like AOC as "sophisticated," but you get my point. There is no accountability for these people and they seem have all run amok. If anyone thinks they care one iota about anyone but their donors, they are delusional. And they only care about their donors because they offer the intoxicating effects of money and power. What a destructive cycle.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Biden's restore program is stored on 5.25" floppy disks.

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JW's avatar

šŸŽÆ

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rowantree's avatar

I'll say it again. We are being led by insane psychopaths who are foaming at the mouth to start World War III. I hate this government right now so badly. Why do they have to destroy everything we love? Why are they so eager to depopulate the planet? Why?

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PamelaZelie's avatar

They follow their father, ā€œthe devil.ā€

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GenEarly's avatar

"WHY?" EZ/PZ : Insane Psycopaths are Serial Murderers in Government Seats, Comrade.

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Kim's avatar

This is not surprising, although the date of 1965 being the beginning was a bit of a shocker.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

2 years after the CIA killed Kennedy.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

1965, When coins were no longer being made of silver šŸ¤”Coincidence?

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R1ghtTh1nk's avatar

Also on youtube.com: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfLycFHBsro

"David E. Martin talk in the 3rd International Covid Summit | European Union May 2023"

Document presentation is based on: https://www.davidmartin.world/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/The_Fauci_COVID-19_Dossier.pdf

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DEBORAH E. dds's avatar

I pray for David Martin's safety daily. His cohort is in a German jail right now..... sorry can't remember his name. The globalists ran an operation on him and locked him up.

Dr 'Reiner Fuellmich .

https://rumble.com/v4obty5-dr.-reiner-fuellmichs-new-statement-regarding-the-current-situation-and-the.html

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rolandttg's avatar

Great find. Many thanks. This was is being widely forwarded, and I encourage other to do the same. Wake up, normies

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OnTheJump's avatar

Enjoy David Martin.

He is a straight shooter, not selling a thing, and knows of what he speaks.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Absolutely! He was knocked down by MSM repeatedly, but he's unstoppable! He does his due diligence and we all profit from the knowledge!

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Lew's avatar

This appears to be on Instagram via tiktok. Do you know where he was speaking or have a link to the original video?

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OnTheJump's avatar

Search Dr. David Martin - plenty to read and watch....this particular presentation is available @ multiple sources.

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OnTheJump's avatar

I think this is the " Sorry to say 'I told you so' " video ?

The content he shares is a story he tells so well, and so thoroughly - very informative. Enjoy.

The following link to a video that is quite a bit longer, but very worth a listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8TbvW6-5H8

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Lew's avatar

Thanks!

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Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

I searched Rumble ''3rd International Covid Summit'' and got this back:

https://rumble.com/search/all?q=3rd%20International%20Covid%20Summit

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Ed Thorrens's avatar

ā€œNow this I say lest anyone should deceive you with persuasive words.ā€

‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2‬:‭4‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

https://bible.com/bible/114/col.2.4.NKJV

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Ches Crosbie's avatar

Tucker asks Jeffery Sachs whether the proxy war is "unprovoked", and in the first part of the interview, he explains the remote and recent history, which allows the viewer to conclude that the US/Nato provoked the war. Much thoughtful material here https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1795500379578253729

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Mary H.'s avatar

Excellent and thought provoking interview. It is very long , but worth a listen. EVERYTHING we have been told for at least 60 years has been a lie.

The MIC doesn’t care about innocent lives, only power and money. We are poking the bear and teetering on nuclear war.

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rolandttg's avatar

60? 600 ,maybe . Maybe forever.

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NAB's avatar

Great interview. I know several C&C commenters recommended this yesterday so I finally started listening. I'm only a 1/3 of the way through, but spellbound by the factual presentation. Well worth the time.

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