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Based Florida Man's avatar

I still run into people who prefer her due to Trump's mean tweets.

They have no idea of her horrible stances.

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RunningLogic's avatar

The mean tweet excuse is one of the stupidest, most baseless and most vapid excuses ever not to vote for Trump. The way Haley and Biden among others have talked about and treated other people is 1000 times worse than anything Trump has ever said or done. It’s an excuse as fake as Haley and Biden are.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

My ordinarily intelligent cousin didn’t vote for Trump on account of his rude tactics and mean tweets.

It was a tough thing for me to get over. I finally

got over it. Then she got all the jabs and when I got covid said it was bc I didn’t get the jabs. Then she got covid. Her entire jabbed fam—along with her, and of COURSE, she said the proverbial, “But it would’ve been SO MUCH WORSE …” so now I’m back to being wholly irritated with her.

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Wheaton's avatar

When these types watch the legacy media daily like ABC world news tonight; they get so easily brainwashed to hate Trump. I actually watch that program every single evening just as research to understand what they are brainwashing currently. I record and watch later but I never miss it, sorry to give them ratings but it helps me understand the world since I avoid all other left owned media at all costs. Also I don’t mind David Muir, he’s very pleasant to listen to so I can tolerate it in the name of greater awareness in what my dad thinks and is going to say. My dad buys it all; hook line and sinker. He parrots it too a T.

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MOMinator's avatar

You are a very brave and loving person, sacrificing your time and sanity like this! ☺️😂 I could not do it.

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AngelaK's avatar

Yes..sanity! Magnolia must be a very even tempered, objective human being to be able to do that.

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Angus McPherson's avatar

One Relative, knowing I'm conservative, asked me how I could support Trump based on how evil he was. I asked them to describe his evil acts. They couldn't, and this person has a master's degree. I said 'no worries that you can't bring it to mind, go research and get back to me. I'm really curious what evil he is fomenting. I'm open to hearing about it.' I never heard back.

Before ending the conversation, I said 'I don't love Trump's fits of hubris, but I'll bet he wouldn't like my pathetic self-righteousness.' In the end , we do have to put a human being in office.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Wow! My dad is a news junkie but… he sits there and shakes his head the whole time! 77 yo

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

My dad, much the same. He passed away before Obama could fundamentally transform what Dad's Greatest Generation built, but he was already in the habit of saying to me, "This country's gone, son." Ominous words. Maybe we've seen the worst now. Hopes, prayers, and action!

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RunningLogic's avatar

My dad said something similar 😕 I hope we can get it back, God willing!

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PJ's avatar

My dad too

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korigon's avatar

My dad is like this too. But day I was visiting him in CA and it was on MSNBC and he was like oh great, I guess you guys are going to tell us what to think now.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

LOL. My dad is staunch conservative so no fighting here. But I’m shocked he still watches MSM locals…

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ILoveherbs's avatar

I did that with my mom but it was FOX that she watched. It didn't take long before I started to consider there had to be another side the the mainstream narrative. I wish she had lived to experience my conversion.

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Paige Green's avatar

Recording it is a good idea, in case you need to go throw up or punch a wall between stories 😂

As for David Muir, during Trump’s first term we started calling him David Manure.

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D&R’s Gma's avatar

Goodness…it’s like we have the same cousin 🤔😂

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Yup..I have one too.

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GG's avatar

Maybe we're all related? 😂

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daverkb's avatar

It is true that the Cretin Rat element have taken our decency and weaponized it against us. Truly ... we have to get over that and fight steel against steel ... and win. And there is no substitute for winning.

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Jamie Williams's avatar

Mine was a brother who completely lost his mind with TDS. He was estranged from family and friends, got fired, and died three months ago, a broken shell of a human being. One of the saddest things I've ever seen. He was 67.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

TDS is amazingly destructive. Glenn Beck is the only person I’ve seen recover, but he apparently had a spiritual awakening following a complete nervous breakdown.

Yesterday, someone recommended the movie about demonic possession that Beck was involved with. It’s called ‘Nefarious’, is extremely well done and life changing. We wonder how some can possibly do the evil things they do. This answers.

I’m glad I didn’t know Beck was involved, since I can’t lose the mental picture of his face encrusted in Cheetos back in 2016 and might have avoided it.

He seems to have recovered, which is pretty miraculous.

Anyway, Prime has ‘Nefarious’ now and it is an astounding vehicle for Truth.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Nefarious WAS riveting. Chilling.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Oscar worthy, if Oscar’s really meant anything.

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Oscar Cannington's avatar

Nefarious was riveting. I didn't know Beck was involved. I dropped him back in the Tea Party days, when he and Hannity hijacked a broad, peaceful coalition and ran it aground. The Cheetos stunt was just confirmation. Maybe Glenn Beck has turned himself around; I hope so. But he's still a long way from earning my trust.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I’ve read that he has had a personal

hand in rescuing some

sex traded kids but I can’t tell you where I read that.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I hear you.

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P Flournoy's avatar

It was said here and I repeat, we must have the same cousin.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Southern gal, recently transplanted to that cesspool, Washington?

I blame the woke SWAMP THANGS for putting her in her trance.

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RU's avatar

Why do people always get caught up in words instead of using actions as their guide? It's bothered me my entire life. It makes no sense. We even have a saying "actions speak louder than words." And yet, people get hung up on words nearly every time.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Agree!!! I keep saying that about the Democrats. People I know who vote Democrat always seem to uncritically swallow whatever the democrat politicians say, and pay zero attention to what they actually DO 😕

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RU's avatar

Oh, without a doubt. Dem voters were told in school, usually college, that Dems are good, antiwar, not racists, pro-women, "on the right side of history," and so on; and that Rs are warmongering, racist, misogynists (even the women), who just want to take everyone's money. And they uncritically, unthinkingly believe it. The recent attacks on women via the trans agenda and the attacks on free speech have finally woken some up.

Republican voters are a bit more split in that regard, IME. Some of the country club types vote (R) reflexively. IME, Trump voters are actually the most engaged and informed. They've been burnt so many times by both parties that they have a healthy (sometimes excessive) skepticism. One of the many little things that opened my eyes. A process that continues daily, lol. So many many things we have been told that don't align with what is real or true.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Agree. Well said.

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Kat's avatar

Besides most of our (conservative) tweets were banned and censored in 2020!!!

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Fred's avatar

Agreed! However, I view blaming TDS on mean tweets is sort of a tongue-in-cheek shortcut to the ridiculousness of it all.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I get what you mean but it does seem that TDS boils down to just blind hatred of the persona presented by the media as being “mean”, “childish” and “lacking civility” and nothing else 😕

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Fred's avatar

Thank you! You nailed it! 😁

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Fred's avatar

Did that even make sense? 🤣😂 Gotta go brew a ☕️!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I view Trump’s use of ‘mean’ tweets and perfectly descriptive nicknames as a shortcut to explaining the deep state cesspool and its inhabitants and the dangers they represent. Time is of the essence and people want to play nicety nice with demonic beings?

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Jaci's avatar

If we recall, those tweets were truth…

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Deb's avatar

But they have the media to cover for them! If Trump looks sideways they are standing ready to report that he is thinking about a man tweet. And the others can lie, smear, and bully with no repercussions at all!!! You can hear that all day long on all the liberal stations!!!

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FH's avatar

And not only is Biden’s apparent belittling of half the country’s citizens, the phrases he uses are carefully considered to enable DOJ-FBI to turn Patriot Act tools against those same citizens. So the insults are more than insults, they’re tools.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I can only see that as a demonic delusion. Such people can not even point to an individual tweet.

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korigon's avatar

This has always bugged me so much too. Like Biden Hillary and others have any room to talk. Most of the people that were that over the top upset over his tweets and comments are not that nice themselves.

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Patricia Woodard's avatar

Amen to that!

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Donna in MO's avatar

I went to our county's caucus in MO on Saturday. I am in one of the only 3 blue counties in the state, so halfway expected a big Haley contingent to show up, especially since our state so far does not require party registration (so D's vote for weak R's in the primary), but we are working on that. Trump had 558 votes to Haley's 65. Friends in adjacent red counties reported even larger margins of victory. Interestingly, the Haley voters were nearly all congregated together, and I didn't recognize a single one of them, which I suppose is not remarkable in a county with over 700K people, but I did know or recognize about half of the Trump crowd.

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SocialismAlwaysFails's avatar

I'll concur with another datapoint, but in an affulent Michigan county semi-recently turned blue.

For a congressional district that encompasses of most of that county, the open primary last week ended up 61%-34% (Trump over Haley). But at the GOP state convention, where it was only GOP precinct delegates voting, it was 118-3 (aka 97.5% Trump). This pattern actually played out in all 13 CDs earning DT all 39 delegates available.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Our state convention is not until May 4 but expect similar results. My hubby is a sales rep and covers half the state. Says most of his territory the Trump signs never came down, and they are multiplying. Our county actually has 2 election boards - Kansas City and then Jackson County for the rest. KC is solid blue and eastern Jack is purplish red, but KC's overwhelming blue majority cancels Eastern Jack in nearly every election, even though Eastern Jack turnout is always higher (56% vs 38% in 2022)

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Donna, I was at our county’s GOP caucus (Cass) on Sat. and you had to declare your party and show voter ID and drivers license to get in. It was a landslide and Trump won on the first vote. There were 12 Haley supporters and well over 650+ Trump supporters! One Haley supporter defected to President Trump after the first round. Then we voted on amendments to the 2024 MO.GOP draft platform and the amendments are amazing, including amendments having to do with health care freedom, spending and debt, educating our children and election integrity. It was a wonderful uplifting day!

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Donna in MO's avatar

Ours as well! We had lots of great amendments and speeches for (and against for a couple of them). I had never been to a caucus and had no idea what to expect, but really enjoyed it even though I was STARVING - as I got there at 8:30 and I didn't leave until almost 2:00. Ended at ~1:15 but I am a gabber. I had been warned to bring a snack, but left my bag of trail mix at home.

Yes you had to declare your party but for the overall voter base, party registration is still optional, I worked the primary in 2022, and we had to ask each voter which party ballot they wanted, regardless of what they were registered as or if they had even declared a party affiliation. (the option to affiliate was just added by the legislature in the 2022 session but didn't go into effect until after the 2022 elections.) Asking people if they wanted to declare a party when they voted started with the April 2023 elections (in my area anyway). Rep Dan Stacy has been fighting a multi-year battle to pass closed primaries, where you have to vote the party you are registered as, but it has failed to pass year after year. Not sure of the reason, other than the theory some have that there are some fake R's who like it this way? That, and the Senate fails to get much of anything done these past several years.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Senator Rick Brattin is amazing but there are a lot of RINOS in the MO. senate AND in the MO.House of Representatives, including my representative, Sherry Gallick. For anyone from MO. reading this comment, Diane Diehl, Jeff Farnan, Mike Haffner and Dave Hinman are RINOS too.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Add Mary Elizabeth Coleman to that list. She has her eye on running for Congress and led the effort to kill the landfill bill last session and looks like the monied class is working to defeat it again this session. (big PAC contributions to the climbers who are raising war chests for future runs) If you are not familiar, there is an effort to put a landfill in just north of the Cass/Jackson line. Homes/schools/churches and Longview Lake are all close by. Haffner has been a huge advocate for the bill that would enable surrounding municipalities to 'kill the fill' Current law says 'one half mile' but new legislation would make it one mile, allowing Lee's Summit, Grandview and Raymore to shut this down. There is a small patch of land along 150 where there are land acquisition efforts that is KCMO and while Mayor Q is playing dumb, he is not fighting it either. The proposed site is JUST under the half mile requirement. This has actually been a bipartisan fight. A woman who is a huge lib and a thorn in our side in local elections is big in this fight as her neighborhood is adjacent to this site. Proof politics does sometimes make for strange bedfellows.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I hope other Missourians will weigh in and we can spread the word through our C&C group!

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BBS's avatar

Maybe we could carve out a section of the country where these people could live, on their own, happily ever after, with the Biden regime and their ilk , and their tens of millions of illegal aliens. Build a wall around them so they couldn't get out.

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D&R’s Gma's avatar

We call that Delaware 😉

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Owain Glyndŵr's avatar

Yep and name it...Sanctuary.

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CitizenA's avatar

BBS, I dream of that daily. Let them live their woke world to it’s inevitable demise, … just leave the rest of us alone.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup!! They never just want to live according to their own ideology, they always have to try to make everyone else do so too! 😡

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Willing Spirit's avatar

The progression is: Tolerance

Acceptance

Ratification

Participation

Only our participation will seal the deal on the plan for our subjugation.

We must resist with every fiber of our beings!

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NX17's avatar

I think it already exists in Portland OR😉. Problem is; it’s not “sustainable” without OUR money🙄

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Tina is working hard to get even more of our money. I hope I read it wrong but isn’t she proposing an almost one dollar increase in gas taxes? .93 cents?

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Jamie Williams's avatar

It's called California, except they don't deserve that once lovely state.

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Deb's avatar

Excellent idea!

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Wheaton's avatar

My fourth grade daughter came home from school and said she defended Trump, and her friend said, confused, "but he says mean things." lol.

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RunningLogic's avatar

My son got chewed out by his teacher when he was in middle school during the 2016 election cycle because he defended Trump and she went on and on about how Trump mistreated women and was racist etc etc. I had words with the school leadership after that and the teacher stopped pushing her agenda but it still makes me mad.

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AJF's avatar

Sooooo many "teachers" do this. She should haved thanked him for his opinion and then asked the class if anyone else had a comment. Or she could have given them a homework assignment, having them do a bit of research on the candidates and their platforms. All kinds of learning opportunities there! Instead she shut down the conversation, most likely embarrassed your son, and attempted to sway the opinions of the entire class. Terrible teacher.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I agree. I’m not necessarily against (age/maturity appropriate) discussions about politics or ideological ideas in the classroom. But the teacher MUST NOT EVER give any sign of his/her own opinions and must challenge all opinions and ideas equally. Make them think about why they think the way they do and have to support that with facts. That is actual teaching, not just indoctrination.

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AngelaK's avatar

Those were the teachers and professors we knew, not anymore. Brainwashing has numbed the peaceful pursuit of intellectual thought and consideration,

and stimulated the most basic reaction of pure emotions on the subjects which concern us as a people.

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AngelaK's avatar

Have you seen what generation is teaching today? The brought up on woke ideology

rather than religious values, (not to mention the sickening monthly stories I see on Daily Mail of female teachers having had sex or sending sexual photos to their young male students.)

These are very troubled, morally bereft generations of young people. (anwhere from 22 years old to 45).

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Donna in MO's avatar

HOWEVER - I am seeing signs this is turning for the youngest of this cohort, and perhaps it is gen Y, depending on what the cutoff is. Our local Turning Point chapters are gathering steam. Went to the State GOP conference in early Feb and was amazed at the number of young people there. There is a young man in our area that hosts a podcast called The Alex Stone Show and his goal is to convert his generation to conservatism, and has scored some great national interviews.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That is very encouraging!!

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AngelaK's avatar

Good to hear because brainwashing is pervasive in the culture; especially theirs.

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Wheaton's avatar

That would make me mad too. Good job speaking up and getting her to stop. I heard from my old friends that the public schools in deep red suburbs in missouri even play CNN on tvs in the classrooms, all day, clearly to brainwash the students and push an agenda. I don't have kids that age but I find it strange they have tvs on in classrooms. i guess they are quite determined to get these kids brainwashed.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I’ve heard that too. My kids used to go to a smaller private school so at least we had some sway. I can’t imagine the public school would listen and act unless they were forced to somehow.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Years ago there was what was called Channel One. The benevolent company offered free TV’s for classroom use. Only requirement was mandatory watching the 10 minute Channel One “news” each morning. It consisted of CNN leftist slant of “news” deemed worthy.

A friend learned about it when her elementary-age child came home asking about something called masturbation.

Yep, coverage of Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders’ views of comprehensive sex-ed in schools etc. President Clinton fired her.

But what my friend learned that day started an investigation of Channel One & its motives.

Many school systems divested themselves from it after learning such tidbits as features on rocker Marilyn Mason & other inappropriate materials.

Most Public Schools still undermine parents who are trying their best to raise their children according to the values & standards they believe in.

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char's avatar

TV in classrooms-This is frightening!

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Vicki's avatar

You GO, Mama Bear! And kudos to your young Patriot!!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Aww thank you ☺️ I’m really not at all confrontational by nature, but that was stepping over the line for me! I wasn’t going to let it go.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

And fourth graders don't?

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GG's avatar

I've always thought the uproar over "mean tweets" was completely overblown. 🙄 They'd rather see the country burn down than anyone's feelings get bruised.

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Vicki's avatar

The irony is.....They're ALL saying MUCH worse behind closed doors and outside the hearing of mics!

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RunningLogic's avatar

And actually often out in the open too. Joe Biden has been mean, nasty and condescending on many occasions, and people just laugh it off when he does it.

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AngelaK's avatar

Yes! Absolutely correct!

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Jen's avatar

Exactly! He's so much worse. Yelling at the podium like he did that time? He looked like an unhinged lunatic. Trump has never done anything of the sort. Biden is an out and out racist - he has said hideous things and gotten away with it. I think any leftist who defends him must ultimately agree with him (secretly).

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RunningLogic's avatar

I concur!

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BBS's avatar

Yeah, what's the last thing? Something about white rural rage...I don't really pay that much attention.

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Verve's avatar

I know, it's crazy. If they actually want to get into it with me - I never start these things because it's pointless, but if they ask, I always pose this question. If you needed a life saving operation and one doctor is basically a butcher with a consoling bedside manner, and the other doctor is Dr. Awkward No Filter, but is the best damn surgeon on the planet with a 98% success rate, who are you going to pick? I then tell them I vote on policy, not personality and they need to look at the total picture, not just one issue.

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AngelaK's avatar

Because they are low information and brainwashed by msm.

Issues, stands on issues? What

are issues? We only look at the childish things, tweets, tans, etc. Orange man is bad and he is mean!

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RU's avatar

Around me (blue state), there are quite a few Haley and Vivek signs up. No Biden or Trump. Trump is going to win the nomination. Biden is a senile, corrupt pedophile who's tanked the economy and the country. I just think to myself...this really isn't a difficult choice...these ppl need to grow the eff up and stop it with the 'mean tweets' crap. It's not a valid opinion.

He's just using plain language b/c that's what appeals to his voters. And you know what? They're right. It's the language of the white collar, professional, "expert" class that got us into all these messes we're now dealing with. For example: It's easy to vote for "social safety net policies"; Not as easy to vote for "we're going to take your money, skim some off the top for ourselves, and give the rest to people who vote for us."

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devoalan's avatar

They don’t care about her stances, only that omb. And they will proudly wear that stupid tee shirt to the grave. And regardless the education they lack, they would never let it get to the point where they change their mind.

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MOMinator's avatar

Pretty sure I’m related to a few of them *sigh*

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Carlos's avatar

Brainless

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WP William's avatar

She's running a great campaign, she's been a loyal ambassador, cabinet member, wife and mother, she's just an outlet for back-stabbing anti-Maga voters

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GG's avatar

She hasn't been all that loyal of a wife and she's sticking her thumb in the eye of conservative voters. After everything that's been done to Trump, it's been very revealing to see clowns like Haley go out there and show support for tyranny. There's reason for MAGA to stab her, no back required. Facing forward would suit me fine. She's a traitor.

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daverkb's avatar

Agreed! Queen of Big Blue on the Potomac! Utter trash and treasonous. Maybe she is Romney with a face mask on? Or Pocahontas without the feather?

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WP William's avatar

( i threw the loyalty thing in there for effect); wouldn't it be great if she was actually a MAGA plant who sallies forth from the RNC in July to harness the anti-Trumpers and touts him as being America's Last and Only chance to save us from Commie-Progressive-Tyranny? This truly is the case, and her future and legacy hinges on it; Lapdog Leftist on a leash who tacitly approves of National destruction, or join the Save America-Save Freedom Movement side of the ledger...there is SOON to be NO MIDDLE GROUND on this.

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MayBella82's avatar

RINO with bad intentions.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Have you seen the dude her daughter married? LOL

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RunningLogic's avatar

No! Now you made me want to Google it lol 😂

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ok he’s black. So? 🤷‍♀️ I was expecting a man bun or something 😆

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Based Florida Man's avatar

She and her family are race traitors.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Sorry, what exactly does *that* mean? People should only marry those from their own race? How do you even define race to decide who is allowed to marry whom?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Race-mixed marriages have throughout time been a no-no in most societies, similar to homosexuality.

Only in modern times has this been liberalized.

Of course super woke Nikki married outside her race (a White dude), and her daughter now with a Black dude. Perfect family for the the Globalist Era.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Just because something was done or not done historically doesn’t automatically justify it imo. Also can you please tell me how you define which person is from which race? What criteria do you use?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

It's like homosexuality, most of the world finds it abhorrent.

As they do inter-racial marriage. Especially in her home country of India (her parents are from there).

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RunningLogic's avatar

You still haven’t defined how you decide what race people are. Or who is allowed to marry whom. Who is white exactly? What skin tone equals white? Are southern Europeans who have the exact same skin tone as northern Africans white? Are northern Africans then white, by extension? How many races are there? What race are Indians exactly? If you consider them Asians, is it ok according to your rules for them to marry say, a Chinese person or a Laotian? What about those Indians whose complexions are so dark that they are as black as many Africans? Are Indians like Nikki Haley’s family allowed to marry them? If not, why not? If so , why can they marry those kinds of people but not a dark skinned person of African origin?

Race from everything I’ve seen in my life is a mostly artificial, nebulous construct. No one can really define it or have specific, quantifiable, clear criteria to categorize people by. The reason people don’t like what they consider interracial marriage is because of the fear of *social* stigma, and that their children or extended family would be mistreated. People didn’t want their family to be marginalized and have fewer rights and opportunities or have to abide by stricter rules. All man made rules to keep some people superior and others inferior. In that way it’s much more akin to the aristocracy and intermarriage between social strata being frowned upon (aristocracy famously intermarried to their genetic detriment because they were so intent of keeping their status and power) than to homosexuality. Homosexuality is unnatural in that it prevents reproduction. And reproduction is essential to the survival of the human species. Not to mention that male homosexuality requires using the digestive tract as it’s not intended to be used. Very very different.

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Patricia Woodard's avatar

Give me some mean Truths! I'm so ready!

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Politically, trading stupid for mean isn’t ideal, but it’s wise in this case.

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