I’m the progeny of a Sephardic Jew, an Aschkenazi Holocaust survivor (who swam to freedom) and a German Nazi defector (who lost his life in a camp). I grew up speaking German and Hebrew. To borrow a line from the scroll of Esther… for such a time as this perhaps I was born? The extreme right and the extreme left are United on very little…
I’m the progeny of a Sephardic Jew, an Aschkenazi Holocaust survivor (who swam to freedom) and a German Nazi defector (who lost his life in a camp). I grew up speaking German and Hebrew. To borrow a line from the scroll of Esther… for such a time as this perhaps I was born? The extreme right and the extreme left are United on very little, but conveniently they can agree on the scapegoat which is the despicable Jew. By all means, practice your freedom of speech and say whatever you will about Jews controlling the world etc. But please question why hate such as ‘from the river to the sea’ is allowed to be spread if Israel is really at fault. Like so many, Israel is a pawn. My ancestor, a talented lawyer, laid down his life by removing the picture of Hitler from his home. He is no different than my ancestor swimming across a strait to freedom. They would have you think we are divided but it’s really quite simple… do you want to be free or a slave? The story of Exodus is clear - seek freedom in all its forms and Truth will be waiting there.
"In an interview with Face the Nation, the Florida governor recalled that the United States allocated $158 billion to Tel Aviv over the past 75 years, and Kiev received more than $120 billion in just two years."
Amazing that the top 2 countries getting US money are run by Jewish guys.
$158+$120=$278B. A quarter of a trillion dollars! And they demand money, blood, and war.
And to criticize this, they want to make a hate crime.
Kiev hasn’t been run by a Jew for 75 years 🫶 Even though there is no source for this point, I don’t disagree. Whoever they are, those actually in charge, they have a backstory. People and nations are tapped to play a part. The Jew is the scapegoat, the Nazi is the bad guy, the Florida man is reckless and not to be taken seriously etc. I don’t believe these character personas. I happen to be connected enough to know that most kinds of people (Jews, Germans and Floridians alike) are being pushed into situations and just want to live their life.
Phil ... I read, I think it was, in Chuck Baldwin's email circular the other day that 5 million Palestinians have been slaughtered since 1948/49. This seems shockingly high high? What do you know about this? If it is so, would that not be a Palestinian Holocaust?
If it was this high a figure I am assuming death by non-natural means.
Immediately after Israel was made a nation again in 1948, they were attacked by the surrounding Arab nations, still battle ready from their years of fighting for the Nazis.
They won.
There were skirmishes throughout the years. Like in Ezra and Nehemiah, the Israelis worked with one hand and held a weapon in the other. They took a barren desert land and made it bloom.
In 1967, there was a major Arab offensive against Israel.
Then in 1973, there was the war of Yom Kippur (50 years before the current barbaric attack-both occurring on high holy days in Israel).
Y’all make it sound like Israel just went randomly killing the Palestinians’. In wars people tend to die and land boundaries shift as territory is taken.
I’m watching a documentary on the Middle Ages and it would appear that tribes and peoples have tended to move about and war and conquer and possess lands forever. This notion of stable ownership of land is rather flawed. It seems like if you can hold it, you can keep it, but someone else always has an eye on it.
Israel has never gone out to conquer land. They’ve taken it from enemies who attacked them and lost it in the fighting.
Thank you. These Israel haters will never stop hating Israel. They do not take into account what the Word says.
Just as the spiritual blinders are on our nation right now about those crossing our border, the blinders were on in Israel re this attack. It was a supernatural blindness. They are being shaken to their core to “WAKE UP!” ANC these attacks will gradually increase until the day that the God of Israel says “Enough!” Until then, haters (even those who call themselves ‘Christian’ will continue to hate.
Until then”Blessed be He Who comes in the Name of the Lord!”
I am really much more concerned about having a country to live in with real borders, real law and courts, and having to suffer continual wars based upon fraudulent made up pretexts. And I am certainly upset when my own country is be steered by powers foreign. I am especially concerned about the corruption and the looting of everything not nailed down. Just for starters.
What one loves, one then must by necessity hate the opposite. If one loves beauty, one hates ugliness. If one love truth, then one hate lies.
Perhaps "it is, just as it should be"? Each person has a different perception, I who have not yet reached a "high state of consciousness, but working towards it" try to stay in the middle, neither for nor against. Thank you for the question.
If you will, read Deuteronomy 28 and Leviticus 28. We are one of only TWO nations that was founded on these Words. We were lured into compromising our principles. We have “....sown the wind and are reaping the whirlwind.” “As man does, that shall he also reap.”
I would love to live in a land with secure borders, with a benign and benevolent government. But when we forget what we promised God, we will come under righteous judgement.
I hope you read those two chapters. It won’t take long. And I pray that you see that we should be very concerned about what He is doing. This thing can be turned around, but only with His help.
8 If there bee any that prouideth not for his owne, and namely for them of his housholde, hee denieth the faith, and is worse then an infidell. Geneva Bible 1 Timothy 5:8
Israel is a Zionist state which hates Scripture, Jews and Christians alike, this the Israel which has taken the United States to the cleaners to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. And now that the United States and the Federal Reserve are broke, and the country itself broken, I say that charity begins at home. I say it is high time to repair the devastation at home. Our first duty is to Americans and not the god-state in the Middle East.
Well, they haven’t gone out to conquer since the days of Joshua. But God ordered the conquest and if they had obeyed him completely, they wouldn’t be in the fix they’re in today.
Good question, I really don't know. However, I am sure the news was very slanted post-WWII and much was ignored or covered up. You can't massively move into a territory to occupy it without violent conflict with the current inhabitants who are being dispossessed.
Which brings to mind our situation in the US (and Europe) where we are experiencing a massive invasion. Not that they are going to displace 330 million Americans. Rather the Communists will use them against us. There will eventually be a violent clash.
Why do people publish this rubbish. Presumably, we are all intelligent people here but the give away was the word "slaughtered". Do people think?? According to Wikipedia (a some what reliable source) there were approximately 65,000 total Palestinian deaths since 1948 to 2021, of which approximately 25,000 was due to combatants. Since 1948 there has been all types of conflicts between Arebs etc. Long lastinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_casualties_of_war. It's just like the Crimea. Russia has been fighting over that land since at least 1774
I certainly am not one to endorse the claim 'that we are all intelligent people here'. I do not even know what that means given that intelligence is varied, and knowledge is varied, and that what 'we know' or 'think we know' is all varied and varied especially given that the historical record has been deliberately muddied by decades and decades of propaganda and mis-attribution.
I balked at the word 'slaughtered' knowing the reaction such word likely would elicit. However, we see slaughter all around us today. We see it in the endless Wars of Empire for profit based on false, manufactured predication. But we also now see slaughter in the C19 murders also predicated on made up Tooth Fairy Tales and wrapped in the Cloth of Goodness ... and fallaciously jammed down out throats.
Israel was was established by invasion with many indigenous peoples dispossessed of everything they owned, often slaughtered and if not, herded into concentration camps of refuges. This much is incontestable. But as to how many people were unjustly murdered. I have no earthly idea, not any more than I know exactly how many C19 murders were resultant of the Pharma's toxic injection campaign. But whatever it is, the misery of death and dispossession is horrific.
At this point, you may think I am pro-Palestinian, pro-Arab, pro-Hama. I am not. I am pro-America, pro-Americans gaining control of their now craven captured despicable governments. I am pro that the American Empire ceasing its killing around the world by military aggression. I am sick of the corruption and expropriation unlawfully the of Right of Liberty, and of Property. I detest the on-going pushed policy of being forced into 15 Minute City Concentration Camps. And don't even get me started on the Border and the Cartels ... and all the trafficking.
Basically, I refused to be sucked into one more 'look over there' Psy-Opt. I rather see the American people restored to health ... moral, political, economic, cultural, spiritual.
For our country to be "restored", we must REpent, seek the face of the Almighty Creator God and return to Biblical truths applied to our everyday lives. We are reaping what we sowed!!
True, and also for the Palestinian people who 75 years ago, were told that the land they had lived on for generations was no longer theirs. For the past 16 years, 2.2 million people have been imprisoned in a narrow strip of land called The Gaza Strip, where every aspect of their lives is controlled by an occupation Army. When they dare to resist, they are called Terrorists.
Murder, rape, torture and kidnapping are not "resistance" they are terrorism. Israel has not had a presence on the ground in Gaza for decades. The Palestinians were given their own state to govern as they wished. They could have turned it into a Mediterranean paradise. Instead they elected terrorists to lead them and turned it into a hellhole.
You are willfully uninformed if you believe that, because it's not true.I suggest you read what Chris Hedges has written in his article, "Palestinians Speak Israel's Language, and Scott Ritters' interview entitled, "Why I No Longer Support Israel." When the Media comes at me with fear and emotional baits, I want to know the truth and not react like Pavlovs dog. I understand this situation, as I have spent years researching it. My heart breaks for all of the innocent people in the ME. But noone, I don't care what atrocity they show, would stop me from immediately asking what I would do if my country were invaded, my land taken, my family's home given to people who said their God gave it to them, my every move arbitrarily controlled, my attempts at peaceful protest and diplomacy met with sadism and violence, my children arrested, brutalized and murdered, (500 killed by the IOF in 2014 alone), my parents denied cancer treatment, my every utility controlled by a foreign government and no end in sight. I know what I, and 99.9% of Americans would do. And it wouldn't be to take it or to cry for my occupier. I would resist to my last breath. I say that without rancor or hatred, but because without freedom, life is not worth living.
Chris Hedges wrote a great piece on "The Crucifixion of Julian Assange." I see differently his view on the history of the area that is now the State of Israel. Hamas are terrorists that go after women and children prove who they are. We were not born to hate and it terrifies me when I see that same anger and hatred within me at the multiple injustices that have been inflicted on us these last 3 years.
Hasidic ‘Jews’ come mainly from Ukraine. Many Hebrew people, worldwide are self-haters. Because they, like many teenagers, want to be like everyone else. They hate their heritage, therefore they hate Israel.
They have renounced Israel, as silly teenagers sometimes renounce their families. It’s a form of Stockholm Syndrome.
They too listen to MSM propaganda. They want to be accepted. No matter the truth.
Meh.
Accepting lies is the easy path. Broad way.
The Truth is the harder path to find. The Narrow Way. Harder to find. But well worth the effort.
You are the one who is willfully misinformed. There’s no way you have spent years researching it if you believe that the Jews came in and dispossessed “Palestinians” who had lived in the land for generations.
I just read in another substack that Israel controls all goods that come into Gaza. A few years ago, the Israelis calculated how many calories each Gaza citizen needed to survive just above starvation level and that is the amount of food that is allowed through. If that isn't a form of terrorism, I don't know what is.
First of all, that article is more than 11 years old and refers to a blockade that ended in 2010. In it is the following statement: "Major Guy Inbar, an Israeli military spokesman, said the calculation, based on a person's average requirement of 2,300 calories a day, was meant to identify warning signs to help avoid a humanitarian crisis, and that it was never used to restrict the flow of food."
So you can choose to believe the claims of a group that works to "protect the rights of Palestinians" (to murder, rape, torture and kidnap?) or you can choose to believe the Israelis. I guess it's just a "he said, she said" situation. Warning: Moral relativism ahead.
Amen. Imagine having a next door ‘neighbor’, whose one aim in life was to harass and harm you. The police just say, “Oh, you need to be nicer and then they’ll stop bothering you.” And any action you take is twisted and trumpeted across the neighborhood. Meanwhile you have to try and not get hit by barrages of rockets and gunfire. Sometimes you lose family members, or they are captured and raped before being murdered. But you are just told by the authorities that you have to be nicer, it’s your fault the neighbor behaves this way.
Imagine.
Issac and Ishmael. God will settle this once and for all. In the meantime the shifting is going on; the wheat being separated from the tares, right before our eyes.
I just shared that passage in Genesis with Dr. Naomi Wolf on her blog last week where Jehovah promises Hagar that her son, Ishmael, will be a "father of a great nation as numerous as the stars in the heavens....here it is again! https://www.biblestudytools.com/genesis/passage/?q=genesis+16:9-12
Do not believe everything msm tells you. Many of those shipments are arms. Much like the hotels in NYC, occupied by these same type people, are receiving arms daily. We will soon be under attack in the same way. This administration, as Obama’s did, is turning a blind eye to the fact that they are being sent arms.
Israel has interrupted the flow of arms to Gaza and the West Bank many times coming in as ‘medical supplies and foods’. Don’t be blinded by the lying media.
There are millionaires in Gaza and those were the first buildings destroyed (with a knock on the roof 30 mins beforehand). Power corrupts, even in Gaza. If they used the money for education and hospitals, just by population alone Israel would be Arab again within 10 years.
Israel has been occupied by Jews for millennia. The Arabs tried living there, but the Land would not accept their occupation. There are times of famine in different places, but are not long-lived. Except in one place. Israel
When all but a remnant of Israel was taken into captivity the 2nd time into Babylon, The Land that was once called the “land flowing with milk and honey” became desolate. 1800 years with virtually no rain until God’s people started coming-family by family-back into the Land.
The following is from a book “Prophecies For The Era off Muslim Terror”
“The devastation was noted by everyone throughout history. In 1267, upon arriving in the Land, Rabbi Moshe ben Nachman writes “What shall I tell you about the Land? There are so many abandoned places and the desolation is all encompassing. Jerusalem is the most desolate. Judea more than the Galilee”
Even Mark Twain said, in the 1860’s
“The soil is rich enough but is given wholly to weeds. A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action. We never saw another Human being on the whole route. We pressed on toward Jerusalem. The further we went, the hotter the sun got and the more rocky and bare, repulsive and dreary the landscape became.....There was hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive [tree] and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.....Jerusalem is.....lifeless. I would not desire to live there. It is a hopeless, dreary, heartbroken land......It sits in sackcloth and ashes. Over it broods the spell of a curse that has withered its fields and fettered it’s energies.....it is desolate and unlovely. Can the curse of the Deity beautify a land? It is no more of this workaday
world.” “
Even The rain came back the same way.....sprinkles to full-on rain showers. Their return to the Land has caused the desert to blossom, as was prophesied.
According to God, the land is blessed ONLY when Hebrews are there.
But Deuteronomy 28 and Leviticus 28 cane about as a consequences of ignorance of and disobedience to the promises they made to obey him.
Exactly... by all accounts from the 19th century, the land referred to as “Palestine” was a desolate wasteland and the population was steadily decreasing; by some accounts the population was around 300,000 at mid-century. However, there has been a continuous Jewish presence in the land since Abraham; In fact, the Jews are the only existing indigenous people of Palestine.
Yesterday Israel bombed an ancient Greek Orthodox church where Christians had taken refuge believing that a church compound would be respected and safe.
No one cares about Middle Eastern Christians in this country, as we saw with the atrocities of ISIS in Syria. Not even Christians care about their brethren. These Christians in the Middle East suffer so much, sometimes from Muslims ( but not always as Christians and Muslims have gotten along for centuries in Syria and Palestine), other times from Israel and other times from the indifference of the United States (foreign policy) towards them.
Murder, rape, torture and kidnapping are what the US military and mercenaries did to the Indigenous people of the Americas and Hawaii.
The US is as guilty of these crimes as any other country. We are all terrorists at one time or another and reaping the rewards of terrorism to this very day.
And they took the land from Israelis who had been there for thousands of years. Gazans have been imprisoned by their own elected government - Hamas. Hamas has been free of Israeli soldiers for around 18 years, so it is not occupied. Study up on your history. Here's a primer.
It isn’t theirs; God, the creator of heaven and earth and everything in it, made a covenant with His people and deeded that land to the Jews. That land is their birthright and the exact parameters of that territory is clearly detailed in the Bible and they still don’t have all of the land God gave them. There is a huge difference between resistance and terrorism. I can’t believe any decent human being can call what’s been done by self proclaimed terrorists and terrorist nations as resistance!
I suggest you read the New Testament. The Covenant was made with ancient peoples and conditional upon their obedience to God's laws. They were broken, and in the New Testament, Jesus came to fulfill the Law. As a Christian, how can you possibly condone the atrocities Israel has perpetrated on the Palestinian people? However, we could both herry-pick the Bible from here to eternity. I simply ask you to look beyond what you believe. I did, and it's eye-opening.
From the New Testament. Does this sound like God has washed his hands of His people for all time?
Before, God, I will always stand for Israel against the demonic forces arrayed to wipe her from the face of the earth
. The Apostle Paul’s letter to the Romans 11: 25 ¶ For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 ¶ As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Except the LORD GOD gave them conditions to keep for that to be fulfilled and they did not nor do they keep them. Read your Bible thoroughly..not just the scriptures that say the land was given..there are a lot of "IFs" and "BUTs" that go along with it.
Israel is the only nation in history with which God has a covenant relationship. He made 5 covenants with Israel and 4 are unconditional. (Gen.12:1-7; 13:14-17; Deut.29:1-30; 2Samuel 7:1-17) The covenants depend on God’s faithfulness, not Israel’s and they are to be interpreted literally. Although Israel rebelled against God, the Covenants were never replaced or repealed. They will be Israel’s possession for eternity.
And we made those same covenants with the God of Israel, and WE have broken that covenant. And you think that we won’t suffer for that?
He said that if He cut off a branch from the cultured Olive Tree (Israel) and grafted in a wild olive tree branch (us Gentiles) , that we had better NOT boast against the cultured olive tree, or He would cut US off and regraft the original olive branch in our place.
It’s a dangerous thing to boast against Israel.
Yeshua (Jesus was nOt His Name) means Salvation. He was a Jew in life, He died a Jew. His disciples were Jess. He had many followers who were Jews. He was resurrected as a Jew.
When you boast AGAINST ‘the Jews’ you boast AGAINST HIM.
““Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of reeling to all the surrounding peoples when they besiege Jerusalem as well as Judah. Moreover, in that day I will make Jerusalem a massive stone for all the people. All who try to lift it will be cut to pieces. Nevertheless, all the nations of the earth will be gathered together against her.”
Rather than share what I believe to be true I will ask you this question: how is it that some Arabs live in Israel with their property and with full rights, serving in the parliament and attending Israeli universities, even serving in the military etc.? Why do some Arabs enjoy this full citizenship and others live in Gaza? Hopefully your search will reveal some information around the Caliphate and their role in the creation and preservation of Gaza
Try studying some history instead of Jew-hating propaganda.
There has never been a Palestinian State
LuAnne Oct 13
An honest question here. Is there such a thing as Palestinian people? It's my understanding they are a mix of Jordanian and Syrian Arabs and there's never been a Palestinian state.
Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state.
-Before the British Mandate existed the Ottoman Empire, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Mamlyuk Islamic State of Egypt, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Islamic State of Mamlyuk of Egypt, the Empire of Ayubid existed, not the Palestinian State. Goffrey IV of Bulonsky, known as Godfrey de Bouillon, conquered Jerusalem in 1099
-Before the Empire of Ayubid, there existed the French and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, the empires of Omeyad and Fatimid existed, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the empires of the Omeyad and Fatimid, there was the Byzantine Empire, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonees State, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Hasmoneysk state, it was the Selevkid state, not the Palestinian state.
-Before the Selevkid Empire, there existed the Empire of Alexander of Macedonia, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Empire of Alexander of Macedonia, there was the Persian Empire, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylon Empire, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Babylon Empire, there existed the Kingdoms of Israel and Judea, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judea, the Kingdom of Israel existed, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Kingdom of Israel, there was a theocracy of the twelve knees of Israel, not the Palestinian state.
-Before the twelve generations of Israel's theocracy, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaan cities-empires, not the Palestinian state.
In fact, this piece of earth was everything EXCEPT THE PALESTINE STATE.
Palestine was a made up word for a made up land that the Roman Emperor Hadrian declared after he put down the second Jewish Rebellion.
And ANY time it was used, every time it was used, by anyone thereafter and until 1948 it meant ANY people living in the land formerly known as Judea or Israel.
Then in 1948, they created Israel as a Nation again.
Israel has had Jews occupy the Land for millennia. When these Arabs that you call ‘Palestinians’ (Philistines) cane to the Land, they were coming back because of the money flowing from the West. They were nomads. They HAD NO LAND.
And since 1948 have been trying to destroy the people of Israel. And the surrounding Arab nations do not want them. Why? Because they were known as rabble-rousers even to the rabble-rousers. They were grifters. No one wants them. In the Arab nations Palestinians are simply tools to use to keep tensions stirred up against Israel. Their leaders have built multi-million dollar homes in ‘safe haven states’, while they deprive their citizens in Gaza and the West Bank. They keep them uneducated and ruled by fear.....they terrorize their own people. THEir LEADERS are the very ones keeping them imprisoned.
Ignorance of history and still believing MSM is inexcusable in this day and age.
Guess what, at the same time, 850,000 Jews were expelled from Arab countries where *they* had lived for generations. Most went to Israel, and have never been allowed back in the countries from whence they came. A sizeable portion of the Israeli population is Arab and Muslim, and have Israeli citizenship, own land, hold elected office, etc.
They are not “people.” They are sub-humans that thrive on hate and domination. They worship a child molesting pervert. They have a worse than Stone Age mentality.
Although I am not Jewish myself, I do have Jewish family members. One thing I learned years ago is to understand that, while Zionists are Jews, not all Jews are Zionists. For those who simply want to hate, that may not make much difference but, for those who seek to understand the nuances, it's an important distinction.
It's like choosing to hate and blame all Americans because of the foreign policy actions of neo-Cons.
Most people know nothing about Israel other than what they’ve absorbed from propaganda. Some of it is from churches that claim they are Israel now. Someone show me that from scripture! Most of the propaganda is from the Marxist Universities and the MSM.
But look what passions are aroused from the continuing battle between Issac and Ishmael. Everyone takes a side, or claims there is ‘moral equivalency’, so no side can be taken. But, it can’t be ducked that easily, that too, is siding with demonic forces.
I’m beginning to believe that most of these ‘anti-Zionist Jew haters’ on here are paid propagandists themselves. The ignorance of Scripture is appalling.
I would be willing to bet they can quote the Hadith and the poisonous Quran.
I wasn’t talking about the scamdemic. I was talking about the Jew-haters. There are those (not Jews) who saw an opportunity to harm the Israel people with a poisonous jab. Just as there are people in our govt (Pence, Fauci, Birx.......)many people who love money more than they love anything and have bought Bill Gates idea that the population must be culled.
The principalities of darkness behind all this is demonic. Ironic that we have a DemonicRAT political group and that’s the very group that hates Israel-and many self-hating Jews have joined them. That’s the vey group that tries to instill fear and panic, not just here, but all over the world.
And we are the nation that pushed abortion o. the world, exporting it to other nations.....tied to aide packages. So Israel and the US share blame as well as other nations who have zero care for their people.
“People and nations are tapped to play a part. The Jew is the scapegoat, the Nazi is the bad guy...” ...we could add the same for the US politicians, most any politician anywhere, and so many others. But what is the common denominator among those who are tapped? It is not their ethnicity, their politics, or even their “connections”, it’s simply that they CHOOSE that fallen part of their human nature that puts SELF ahead of others - they either have something to gain, or something very important to them to lose, and so they choose that, over doing what they know to be right. We can judge and condemn them for that, but we must use their example to examine our own hearts, as these choices are presented to us all, every day, all day long. This fact does not excuse those whose choice results in the suffering and death of hundreds or thousands or millions, but perhaps it requires such shocking violence to arrest our attention and allow us the opportunity to understand the suffering and death that happens in our own souls when we do the same. No one is innocent, no not one.
"Kiev hasn’t been run by a Jew for 75 years" - I think he meant "currently" not for the whole 75 years in Ukraine as it's been a country for only 3 decades.
Was a useless point he made, as the discussion was about all the billions poured into Ukraine after Zelensky was in power. So yes, the quarter trillion dollars was all invested in them during Jewish leadership of the two countries.
BTW, thanks for the love you’ve shown to my posts over the years Florida man. I may be Jewish and German but thanks to Jeff I live in Florida where people love their freedoms. I’m 100% Floridian American
Israel provides many other things as well. But they need to launder money through Ukraine so all that was sent there isn’t going to fund the war that’s failing anyway. Some is in Zelensky’s pocket and much is probably coming through she’ll companies back to Biden and his ilk.
It's been confirmed from MULTIPLE sources, including the US and France that it was a Palestinian rocket that hit the PARKING LOT next to the hospital. 500 did not die. Absolute propaganda from Hamas. There are even voice recordings of Hamas saying it wasn't Israeli.
There would have never been a war in Ukraine if it weren’t for Obiden trying to cover his and Hunter’s tracks. Your comments are making less and less sense. Hatred of Jews and Hatred of Israel does that to people.
By no measure is Zelenskyy Jewish. One of his grandparents may have been but he has never identified as a Jew, participated in Jewish life, studied Torah, attended synagogue or done any of the overt actions required to an identifiable Jew. He is a disgrace as a human being. A grifter and a crook and a thug.
Zelensky is not Jewish. The US gives lots of money to lots of nations and entities. The ones we shouldn’t be giving money to are WHO, WEF, UN, etc, and Ukraine. Ukraine bc that’s where the CIA has all their bases for all the nefarious things they do and Zelensky was installed. He was an entertainer, a nobody, they used him as the face of Ukraine because they could control him. The letter agencies are all corrupt and they are behind ruling the world. If you want to criticize that’s where you should aim it.
Are there some people of Jewish descent involved in those agencies, yes, and the majority of them disowned their own heritage long ago, (Soros is one example, Harari is another), but there are many more involved who are not Jewish and are from nations all over the world, many in Europe.
Everyone wants to blame the Jews for everything because Jew hatred has existed from the moment God made them a people and gave them the land.
Criticizing people for being given international aid, if you disagree with it, isn’t an issue, especially if there’s good reason. I don’t think there is because unlike Ukraine, Israel is a partner with the IS sharing technology and other things. Much of the internal tech in our military fighter jets is Israeli made. There is a give and take relationship there.
Criticizing them just because they’re Jews or because you buy into the lies--there are many to choose from, some people believe them all like they’re trying to rule the world, they already control the world and all bad things come from them, they take from the US and give nothing, they mistreat Palestinians, occupy land that isn’t theirs, they cause the wars and strife in the area--that’s where you are wrong to criticize.
Almost everyone of their neighbors wants them dead, as in non-existent. They have fought this since Abraham was called by God, and they will fight it until God’s full plan comes to fruition. It’s coming soon too. I hope everyone chooses the right side. I’m on the side of God.
About Israel and her people, God says: I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you.
I understand that Tel Aviv is like our Los Angeles/Hollywood. So, no surprise that our corrupt government would send lots of money to foster that lifestyle.
I look at all sides. Just like in a divorce, there is a lot if gray area where neither party is an angel. Neither side has pute motives.
That heing said: my ancestors on the Greek island of Chios suffered a bloody massacre by the Ottoman Turks. During that massacre, many fled to the insides of churches hoping to he safe. They wete wrong and the blood stained the marble permanently and can be seen today.
Yesterday Palestinians ran to the inside if a very old Greek Orthodox church, clutching babies and elderly. They also hoped that their lives would be spared. The Church was bombed by the Israelis. Why isnt this in the news?
It's since then come out that the bombing was targeted on the building next to the church. The church was damaged and apparently some people inside it were killed, but the initial news reports that Israel "bombed a church" were, as usual, too hasty.
Yes I read the same, however it was within the church *compound* which is not quite humanitarian either.
But then again why should Israel be any different from the US during the Kosovo bombings of targeted ancient Orthodox churches and monasteries? We were even asked to cease fire for Pascha( Easter) to allow the people safe worship on the biggest celebrated holy day if Eastern Christianity, and we did not!!
My question is why 'hate' always seemingly one sided? Or why has 'hate' been weaponized so as to sew mouths shut? Why and who gets to define hate and to what purpose? And do we hate through 'legislated' anti-hate? And what about hating what God hates, which seems to have been totally discarded in America of the day?
I love America and am so tired of the wars. If ALL the media is now Gaga over Israel and everyone here has been skeptical, I don’t like the division in these comments now. Believe your truth, but most people honestly have no idea what the truth is. Truth is written by victors. I’m on americas side and what’s happening to America!
Some people say that history is written by the victors. When they are saying this, they mean that a version of 'what happened' is written which reports in a self-serving way what the rulers of a country want the people of that country and/or the rest of the world to believe. Such histories may, and usually are right on the main things which happened but leave out elements key to knowing what really went on. This, for example, would be the difference between the government's version in the 911 NIST Report or the Warren Report and what actually went on, and things like forensic evidence 'conveniently' omitted in the official reports. We with passage of time and citizen scrutiny now know all the details left out of these reports (if we care to search them out) and these details completely change how we are able to think about what actually happened.
It commonly heard today that we should respect 'his or her truth'. Or words or shadings to this effect. This is also wrong. People don't 'have a truth.' There is either truth, or else there are lies. And lies embedded, and seeded into truth is also not the truth which is why the oath taken before a witness testifies contains the words 'the whole truth, nothing but the truth so help me God.' (Swearing on God used to be taken seriously!)
Exactly. Call it being a devils advocate, I just don’t like seeing my skeptical friends here post pro Israel or pro hamas because whatever news source is telling them to. If you’re pro Israel bc of the Bible, that’s NOT what I’m talking about. In a nut shell I’m just saying be Skeptical!!!! All countries have their skeletons.
Thanks for writing back. You are appreciated, very much so.
The Side Choosers have been falling all over themselves this past week, and they have all the reasons in the world why their choice is the right choice. But if you will notice, there seems to be only two main choice, 1) Sympathy for Hamas, Gaza, etc., or 2) righteous indignation and unquestioning support for the greatest ally in the Middle East. This TWO Choice Model employed by the Apex Elites (either a predominant faction and/or the Money Power behind the curtain) is how The Rulers game to people into doing their bidding. The Two Choice Model, either this or that, is a Trick. The heart of the Trick is to get people to do and/or support what they would not support or do otherwise given the real facts and an accurate historical frame of reference.
I always look for other choices. The third choice is actually what should be the first choice. This would be choose God first (a moral universe by law ... God's law), then family and what is good for the family, and then what is good for the larger family which is the good of the country. Notice that most of the choosing this week was a choosing of tangental externals over the internal good of our own country (such as securing the border and end the warefare being waged internally. Getting Congress and financial affairs under control. And so on.
I suggest actually reading Genesis and Exodus in entirety, from first chapter, first verse to the last of each. And then do it again. The other books of the Pentateuch as well, but don't know how many would take up this suggestion. Cherry-picked verses in the Liturgy do not portray the whole picture. Just my two cents, from my personal experience.
You’re right. Most people have never read the Bible end to end. I started systematically working my way through it about 9 years ago and have gone through it 4 times. Now halfway through a 5th read. The connections and context gained by doing this completely reshaped my world view.
I agree! Without truth, which can only be found in God’s Word, you will never have a complete understanding of what these conflicts are about and why it will continue to be a conflict until the end of time. But God will make all things right in the end; He has told us that, too, in His Word. I’m with Jeff; we’re living in the End Times. Seek God! Repent! Jesus died for all who know and believe in Him as Lord and Savior, Jews and Gentiles alike.
People, some with good intentions, cherry pick scripture. They drop it into speeches, studies, and sermons to fit the theme of the day. By not including the surrounding scriptures, putting the scripture in context, they pervert the very Word of God. Those out-of-context scriptures are used to guilt people, stir people, and make people take action. If only people read their Bible, instead of letting others translate the Words for them...
I actually like how Father Mike Schmitz podcast is doing “Bible in a Year”. It well organized and he talks about what was going on at that time and not how we do things currently. Very well done. Plus, I enjoy listening to it and tend to rewind a lot when I want to hear it again. I learn better by hearing than reading.
I am just now completing my 2nd reading of the Old Testament. I plan to start over again. It's like re-runs on TV. I missed things the first time and expect to find that the case again. It's eerily the case how little has changed over time; mostly just the names. Human behaviour is most repetitive.
Isn’t hatred for any race or ethnicity a form of hatred for God? And isn’t it the case that hatred plagues all mankind due to our fallen nature in Adam?
Yes, as followers of Christ, we are to love our neighbors, and yes, we are all sinners. Speaking from a Biblical perspective, I believe the hatred of Jews falls into a different category, because it is through them that God has planned our redemption in Christ.
Very true. But who is there god? It's certainly not the Christian God, nor is it the Muslim god. And believe it or not, it is possible to hate their god or their portrayal of the Christian God without hating them.
Jews do believe in the God of the Old Testament. Some do not believe in Jesus as the Messiah, the Savior of the world. Those who do believe in Jesus as the Messiah are known as Messianic Jews. Christians believe in both.
To deny Christ is to deny the Father. You can't both believe in God and not believe in God, which is what your espousing.
It's like telling the man who has asked you to marry him, "Yes, I love you, but you'll have to get rid of your son because I hate him." Doesn't work as humans, and it certainly doesn't work with the Lord.
God is God. There is only one God. Those who misconstrue God’s character and will are gambling with eternity. It behooves us all to read and meditate on God’s Word in context, asking God to open the eyes of our hearts so that we can truly comprehend His will for each of us.
What you say is true. I wish that we would all look just to Scripture for truth. There are many false teachers who would lead people astray into false theologies. No one who reads Scripture (Old and New Testaments) alone would ever be a Jehovah's Witness, Mormon, or white or black Hebrew Israelite, among others.
Did you not know that Jesus (Yeshua) is a Jew? He said that He only obeys the Father. If you do away with the love of the God of Israel, you canNOT have His Son. And the Son says that He and His Father are ONE.
No. He may be the God of some of the people in those nations, but He is nOt the God of those nations. He refers to Himself as the God of Israel, and to Israel as His people, set apart for Himself.
He said He chose them, not because they were a great people, but because of His love and His promise to Abraham, Isaac SND Jacob.
You are correct in that God set Israel apart, but with the life, death, and resurrection of Christ, the Mosaic covenant ended. Now all who love God and are called according to His purpose are brought into the family of God through the New Covenant. All people who join the New Covenant, regardless of nationality, are His chosen people, the apple of His eye, and His bride.
I truly believe that most of us just want to live our lives in safe places and have opportunities for ours and our children's futures. We have way more in common than we don't. They constantly distract us to keep us divided so we aren't looking at their crimes. They know it is over for them if we ever come together in unity against them.
You know of course that that part of Esther you quote is Mordecai's impressing on Esther to stop being timid and self preserving and speak up as a Jew to save the Jews or she (and her family) might die and some other Jew will have to do the sovereign work of God. It isn't a call for non Jews to stand up (though all good men should stand for what is right). Also, it wasn't a question of freedom v slavery but a question of life v death. Esther sorted it thanks be to God.
Raptor, you are right. I invoked Esther in reference to myself speaking up as an American, German and Jew. The duality that I have a Nazi and Holocaust ancestry could be considered shameful, but I don’t believe in coincidence. I’m the product of a conflict where both sides lost freedoms and I’m proud of my heritage in its entirety
I believe we are a human product of all those who have gone before us in terms of ancestry. There is way more to 'who we are' than just eye color and body type. We carry deep within us, beyond the shallow epidermis, a much deeper tie to the progenitors and also their behaviors and experiences. I do not discount anyone's ability to see more than others in certain areas and take intellect and intuition as an important part of all we carry to get us through the life we have carved out for ourselves "Genetic changes stemming from the trauma suffered by Holocaust survivors are capable of being passed on to their children, the clearest sign yet that one person’s life experience can affect subsequent generations." It sounds as if you have a very interesting heritage, dagney. I do too, and am finding it most helpful to call upon as who I am as these days get crazier and crazier. God is good and we are fearfully and wonderfully made. To WASTE that experience of all who have before us is shameful. Yes, our bodies are awesomely made, but, there is way more to it than that.
I wish all jews in America (and elsewhere) felt as you do about speaking out. NO matter what they think of the current government or Israel, their own people have endured something so terrible it requires an answer. Christians in America seem like they have more love for the Jewish people than Jews do! Pitiful.
Many prominent Jews are self-hating to a genocidal degree. They’ve been persecuted and hated throughout the ages. That has to have an effect. Just part of the complex puzzle that God will bring to completion.
Also, what does a nation's people do when it becomes clear the leaders are not in it for them but have it out for them? Like if Esther decided to preserve herself. What should Mordecai then do?
You live in a nation. Your nation. Imagine this situation and what you might do or think. The people who rule the nation are doing things demonstrably not in the best interest of the people and in fact do things to the people to hurt them or even kill them (possibly knowing) and do not defend the people against attackers with all their might. In other words you, Willing Spirit, find yourself living in a nation with democide on their heart and mind. What does a man like Mordecai (esther's uncle who raised her and loved her) who loves his country and (most of all) loves his people do? What does a woman like Esther who loves her family and loves her people and sees this thing unfolding... what does she do? Does she act? Speak (as Dagny awoke), or remain silent? In the case of the Jews, of course God has a plan and it will not be thwarted. If one man refuses, another will do it.
We see it all around us if we dare look. Jews in particular since Abraham I suspect, have been in the bullseye. You have looked. Otherwise you would not be here on CnC and would have been jabbing yourself to death.
Dagny, do you distinguish between the nation of Israel (a people united by history, custom, language, faith, etc.) and the current political construct resulting, in part, from Balfour and Rothschild?
Yes ... and much more. And we also could take George Washington's advice and mind our own business, and save ourselves from the multi-layered onslaughts being deployed against us here at home?
Can anyone say the word 'Border'. And maybe Esther would agree?
And I have read that Washington's contemporaries regarded Washington as having the best judgment of them all. By sound judgment plus eschewing rash actions, Washington won the War for Independence (with a little help from the French).
Those that are ‘picking sides’ with seething rage and vitriol in their hearts… weren’t paying attention during Covid and didn’t learn the true lesson of this pandemic.
Carey Wedler nails it on this Israel/Palestinian conflict!
Hate (or any other fringe or extremist view for that matter) is like a pendulum. If it swings far enough to either side, it eventually meets. I think that was a component of the OP.
Unfortunately people who are conservative let Leftists own language. People who are not them are Far Right Extremists. Such nonsense.
Sorry to say or maybe not the English et al. where and are responsible for 1946 and all going on in Palestine/Israel today ad now the Jesrael is a pawn. My ancestor, a talented lawyer, laid down his life by removing the picture of Hitler frows are getting back what is fair sand just for all the 70 years of killing, pain and suffering they have given to others in the middle east. Its all history just search and know. ramgbs.wordpress.com
True FREEdom has never been truly FREE...the FREEDOM of salvation through the shed blood of Yeshua came at the horrible price--the Son of Yahweh came to earth, humbled Himself and took on a "robe of flesh" so that He could shed that robe and give the gift of eternal life to all those who accept Him as personal Savior and Lord! Your family background is truly a microcosm of the Jewish nation! My father (we are Christian by belief and background) always said that "God will bless the nations who bless the Jews"...and that is my firm stance as well.
The people that control Israel are Ashkenazi Jews, people from Europe and Russia. Palestine was invaded by them. Palestinians didn't have anything to do with the holocaust. Lehi attempted twice to work with the Nazis, and they are now the Likud.
A bunch of invaders moved in, declared they were going to make a uniquely Jewish state where people ALREADY were living, fomented a war, created 2 million refugees, stole their land because using their MYTHOLOGY to justify it, murdered the negotiator, Count Bernadotte, sent to stop the civil war, and has continued the conflict ever since never negotiating in good faith.
They have, falsely, claimed that "if only the Palestinians laid down their arms there would be peace" - well, the West Bank did that, all that happens is settlements expand. When has the West Bank last done anything? Israel could, at any moment declare their borders unilaterally, and whatever they see fit to leave outside those borders can be "Palestine", they've had this ability for 40 years - so it's quite obvious they have no intention of implementing a two state solution.
Hamas was created by Israel to prevent the two state solution, and it was funded by Israel.
All this time, Israel claims that Zionism is the same as "Jewishness", and you're perplexed there's hatred of Jewish people in the area that they have demolished? Really. That's a big mystery to you.
You're not this stupid.
Israel is a criminal thug state. What if white anglo saxon protestants said they intended to make a nation exclusively for white anglo saxon protestants, run by them, and exclusively for their benefit? You'd call that the KKK, because that WAS what the KKK was when it finally died out in the late 1960's. Zionism is nothing more than the KKK for Jews. They have exactly identical philosophies.
Any criticism of anything Israel does, NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO, is met with screams of "anti-Semite", when they know this isn't true. Israel forged the Niger documents about yellow cake uranium being sold to Hussein to help start that war over non existent weapons of mass destruction, Israel lied about the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11, claiming Hussein did it when it was actually from Fort Detrick. The Iraq War did NOTHING for the United States, cost it tons of money, got 800,000 Iraqis killed, but Israel now gets 75% of it's petroleum resources from Iraq. I wonder why Israel planted all this false information?
If I point this out, which is ALL true, the only counter is "you hate Jews". No, I hate criminal syndicates, and that's who runs Israel. It's run by the Jewish mafia and people mindlessly, stupidly, ignorantly, constantly defend it.
BTW - the Exodus didn't happen, OF COURSE. There was no King David, that's a myth and Yahweh is the Babylonian god of war. Judaism was created in about 700 BC.
I’m the progeny of a Sephardic Jew, an Aschkenazi Holocaust survivor (who swam to freedom) and a German Nazi defector (who lost his life in a camp). I grew up speaking German and Hebrew. To borrow a line from the scroll of Esther… for such a time as this perhaps I was born? The extreme right and the extreme left are United on very little, but conveniently they can agree on the scapegoat which is the despicable Jew. By all means, practice your freedom of speech and say whatever you will about Jews controlling the world etc. But please question why hate such as ‘from the river to the sea’ is allowed to be spread if Israel is really at fault. Like so many, Israel is a pawn. My ancestor, a talented lawyer, laid down his life by removing the picture of Hitler from his home. He is no different than my ancestor swimming across a strait to freedom. They would have you think we are divided but it’s really quite simple… do you want to be free or a slave? The story of Exodus is clear - seek freedom in all its forms and Truth will be waiting there.
Ron Desantis:
"In an interview with Face the Nation, the Florida governor recalled that the United States allocated $158 billion to Tel Aviv over the past 75 years, and Kiev received more than $120 billion in just two years."
Amazing that the top 2 countries getting US money are run by Jewish guys.
$158+$120=$278B. A quarter of a trillion dollars! And they demand money, blood, and war.
And to criticize this, they want to make a hate crime.
Kiev hasn’t been run by a Jew for 75 years 🫶 Even though there is no source for this point, I don’t disagree. Whoever they are, those actually in charge, they have a backstory. People and nations are tapped to play a part. The Jew is the scapegoat, the Nazi is the bad guy, the Florida man is reckless and not to be taken seriously etc. I don’t believe these character personas. I happen to be connected enough to know that most kinds of people (Jews, Germans and Floridians alike) are being pushed into situations and just want to live their life.
Exactly.
Phil ... I read, I think it was, in Chuck Baldwin's email circular the other day that 5 million Palestinians have been slaughtered since 1948/49. This seems shockingly high high? What do you know about this? If it is so, would that not be a Palestinian Holocaust?
If it was this high a figure I am assuming death by non-natural means.
Immediately after Israel was made a nation again in 1948, they were attacked by the surrounding Arab nations, still battle ready from their years of fighting for the Nazis.
They won.
There were skirmishes throughout the years. Like in Ezra and Nehemiah, the Israelis worked with one hand and held a weapon in the other. They took a barren desert land and made it bloom.
In 1967, there was a major Arab offensive against Israel.
Then in 1973, there was the war of Yom Kippur (50 years before the current barbaric attack-both occurring on high holy days in Israel).
Y’all make it sound like Israel just went randomly killing the Palestinians’. In wars people tend to die and land boundaries shift as territory is taken.
I’m watching a documentary on the Middle Ages and it would appear that tribes and peoples have tended to move about and war and conquer and possess lands forever. This notion of stable ownership of land is rather flawed. It seems like if you can hold it, you can keep it, but someone else always has an eye on it.
Israel has never gone out to conquer land. They’ve taken it from enemies who attacked them and lost it in the fighting.
Thank you. These Israel haters will never stop hating Israel. They do not take into account what the Word says.
Just as the spiritual blinders are on our nation right now about those crossing our border, the blinders were on in Israel re this attack. It was a supernatural blindness. They are being shaken to their core to “WAKE UP!” ANC these attacks will gradually increase until the day that the God of Israel says “Enough!” Until then, haters (even those who call themselves ‘Christian’ will continue to hate.
Until then”Blessed be He Who comes in the Name of the Lord!”
I am really much more concerned about having a country to live in with real borders, real law and courts, and having to suffer continual wars based upon fraudulent made up pretexts. And I am certainly upset when my own country is be steered by powers foreign. I am especially concerned about the corruption and the looting of everything not nailed down. Just for starters.
What one loves, one then must by necessity hate the opposite. If one loves beauty, one hates ugliness. If one love truth, then one hate lies.
We live in a world of duality. If one understands this, then one sees the purpose of both.
A question for you. How is that world of duality perceived by one who is in a state of Unity Consciousness?
Perhaps "it is, just as it should be"? Each person has a different perception, I who have not yet reached a "high state of consciousness, but working towards it" try to stay in the middle, neither for nor against. Thank you for the question.
If you will, read Deuteronomy 28 and Leviticus 28. We are one of only TWO nations that was founded on these Words. We were lured into compromising our principles. We have “....sown the wind and are reaping the whirlwind.” “As man does, that shall he also reap.”
I would love to live in a land with secure borders, with a benign and benevolent government. But when we forget what we promised God, we will come under righteous judgement.
I hope you read those two chapters. It won’t take long. And I pray that you see that we should be very concerned about what He is doing. This thing can be turned around, but only with His help.
8 If there bee any that prouideth not for his owne, and namely for them of his housholde, hee denieth the faith, and is worse then an infidell. Geneva Bible 1 Timothy 5:8
Israel is a Zionist state which hates Scripture, Jews and Christians alike, this the Israel which has taken the United States to the cleaners to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. And now that the United States and the Federal Reserve are broke, and the country itself broken, I say that charity begins at home. I say it is high time to repair the devastation at home. Our first duty is to Americans and not the god-state in the Middle East.
I agree that we should get out of everyone's business and tend to ours.
Should read “as a man sows, that shall he also reap.”
Amen!
By their deeds they shall be judged.
Well, they haven’t gone out to conquer since the days of Joshua. But God ordered the conquest and if they had obeyed him completely, they wouldn’t be in the fix they’re in today.
Good question, I really don't know. However, I am sure the news was very slanted post-WWII and much was ignored or covered up. You can't massively move into a territory to occupy it without violent conflict with the current inhabitants who are being dispossessed.
Which brings to mind our situation in the US (and Europe) where we are experiencing a massive invasion. Not that they are going to displace 330 million Americans. Rather the Communists will use them against us. There will eventually be a violent clash.
Why do people publish this rubbish. Presumably, we are all intelligent people here but the give away was the word "slaughtered". Do people think?? According to Wikipedia (a some what reliable source) there were approximately 65,000 total Palestinian deaths since 1948 to 2021, of which approximately 25,000 was due to combatants. Since 1948 there has been all types of conflicts between Arebs etc. Long lastinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_casualties_of_war. It's just like the Crimea. Russia has been fighting over that land since at least 1774
I certainly am not one to endorse the claim 'that we are all intelligent people here'. I do not even know what that means given that intelligence is varied, and knowledge is varied, and that what 'we know' or 'think we know' is all varied and varied especially given that the historical record has been deliberately muddied by decades and decades of propaganda and mis-attribution.
I balked at the word 'slaughtered' knowing the reaction such word likely would elicit. However, we see slaughter all around us today. We see it in the endless Wars of Empire for profit based on false, manufactured predication. But we also now see slaughter in the C19 murders also predicated on made up Tooth Fairy Tales and wrapped in the Cloth of Goodness ... and fallaciously jammed down out throats.
Israel was was established by invasion with many indigenous peoples dispossessed of everything they owned, often slaughtered and if not, herded into concentration camps of refuges. This much is incontestable. But as to how many people were unjustly murdered. I have no earthly idea, not any more than I know exactly how many C19 murders were resultant of the Pharma's toxic injection campaign. But whatever it is, the misery of death and dispossession is horrific.
At this point, you may think I am pro-Palestinian, pro-Arab, pro-Hama. I am not. I am pro-America, pro-Americans gaining control of their now craven captured despicable governments. I am pro that the American Empire ceasing its killing around the world by military aggression. I am sick of the corruption and expropriation unlawfully the of Right of Liberty, and of Property. I detest the on-going pushed policy of being forced into 15 Minute City Concentration Camps. And don't even get me started on the Border and the Cartels ... and all the trafficking.
Basically, I refused to be sucked into one more 'look over there' Psy-Opt. I rather see the American people restored to health ... moral, political, economic, cultural, spiritual.
For our country to be "restored", we must REpent, seek the face of the Almighty Creator God and return to Biblical truths applied to our everyday lives. We are reaping what we sowed!!
I know! I know! And what a mess!
You must be related to Kamala Harris
Ha! Ha! You must be a Kamala Harris or Biden Puppet. And what a disgrace your stooping to this kind of rubbish.
AND…the comedian running Ukraine was installed by a CIA operation. It’s all going according to plan. Heaven help us
True, and also for the Palestinian people who 75 years ago, were told that the land they had lived on for generations was no longer theirs. For the past 16 years, 2.2 million people have been imprisoned in a narrow strip of land called The Gaza Strip, where every aspect of their lives is controlled by an occupation Army. When they dare to resist, they are called Terrorists.
Murder, rape, torture and kidnapping are not "resistance" they are terrorism. Israel has not had a presence on the ground in Gaza for decades. The Palestinians were given their own state to govern as they wished. They could have turned it into a Mediterranean paradise. Instead they elected terrorists to lead them and turned it into a hellhole.
Indeed. As it has been said, if Hamas surrendered all their weapons, there would be peace.
If Israel surrendered all her weapons, there would be mass slaughter and annihilation of Jews.
You are willfully uninformed if you believe that, because it's not true.I suggest you read what Chris Hedges has written in his article, "Palestinians Speak Israel's Language, and Scott Ritters' interview entitled, "Why I No Longer Support Israel." When the Media comes at me with fear and emotional baits, I want to know the truth and not react like Pavlovs dog. I understand this situation, as I have spent years researching it. My heart breaks for all of the innocent people in the ME. But noone, I don't care what atrocity they show, would stop me from immediately asking what I would do if my country were invaded, my land taken, my family's home given to people who said their God gave it to them, my every move arbitrarily controlled, my attempts at peaceful protest and diplomacy met with sadism and violence, my children arrested, brutalized and murdered, (500 killed by the IOF in 2014 alone), my parents denied cancer treatment, my every utility controlled by a foreign government and no end in sight. I know what I, and 99.9% of Americans would do. And it wouldn't be to take it or to cry for my occupier. I would resist to my last breath. I say that without rancor or hatred, but because without freedom, life is not worth living.
So you get your "truth" from left-wing apologists, plagiarists, and convicted sex offenders. OK, got it. Explains a lot.
Sure does. As if demons from hell can’t write propaganda. In truth, they’re quite good with lies; the bigger, the better.
Well the The truth is always embedded in the lie. Or the speaker of such comment above
Maybe you should put that comment on your business card.
Because who would know better.
Chris Hedges wrote a great piece on "The Crucifixion of Julian Assange." I see differently his view on the history of the area that is now the State of Israel. Hamas are terrorists that go after women and children prove who they are. We were not born to hate and it terrifies me when I see that same anger and hatred within me at the multiple injustices that have been inflicted on us these last 3 years.
'Your' side is led by Western forces (Joe Biden at the top) who is a pedo himself.
And a Jab mandater, just like the Israel govt who pushed more Jabs than any other country.
https://www.unz.com/article/israels-culture-of-deceit/
KBB love your style
Explains a lot.
Truth is independent Regardless of how it comes to you, it stands alone it doesn't need you to exist.
I suggest you stop reading propaganda written by Jew-haters.
Many Hassidic Jews feel for Palestine.
“Jews” are only one tribe of Israel. Judah.
Hasidic ‘Jews’ come mainly from Ukraine. Many Hebrew people, worldwide are self-haters. Because they, like many teenagers, want to be like everyone else. They hate their heritage, therefore they hate Israel.
They have renounced Israel, as silly teenagers sometimes renounce their families. It’s a form of Stockholm Syndrome.
They too listen to MSM propaganda. They want to be accepted. No matter the truth.
Meh.
Accepting lies is the easy path. Broad way.
The Truth is the harder path to find. The Narrow Way. Harder to find. But well worth the effort.
Here is a few explaining how they feel about the zionist
https://t.me/dissidentPriests/83562
I don’t read Jew-hating propaganda.
You are the one who is willfully misinformed. There’s no way you have spent years researching it if you believe that the Jews came in and dispossessed “Palestinians” who had lived in the land for generations.
I just read in another substack that Israel controls all goods that come into Gaza. A few years ago, the Israelis calculated how many calories each Gaza citizen needed to survive just above starvation level and that is the amount of food that is allowed through. If that isn't a form of terrorism, I don't know what is.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/17/israeli-military-calorie-limit-gaza
Before God, I will stand with his people, Israel, in the face of lies and persecution.
You misunderstand the bible.
Oh, really? Perhaps it is you who misunderstands it.
Amen and AMEN!
First of all, that article is more than 11 years old and refers to a blockade that ended in 2010. In it is the following statement: "Major Guy Inbar, an Israeli military spokesman, said the calculation, based on a person's average requirement of 2,300 calories a day, was meant to identify warning signs to help avoid a humanitarian crisis, and that it was never used to restrict the flow of food."
So you can choose to believe the claims of a group that works to "protect the rights of Palestinians" (to murder, rape, torture and kidnap?) or you can choose to believe the Israelis. I guess it's just a "he said, she said" situation. Warning: Moral relativism ahead.
Amen. Imagine having a next door ‘neighbor’, whose one aim in life was to harass and harm you. The police just say, “Oh, you need to be nicer and then they’ll stop bothering you.” And any action you take is twisted and trumpeted across the neighborhood. Meanwhile you have to try and not get hit by barrages of rockets and gunfire. Sometimes you lose family members, or they are captured and raped before being murdered. But you are just told by the authorities that you have to be nicer, it’s your fault the neighbor behaves this way.
Imagine.
Issac and Ishmael. God will settle this once and for all. In the meantime the shifting is going on; the wheat being separated from the tares, right before our eyes.
This conflict is certainly not one sided.
This conflict is certainly not morally equivalent.
I just shared that passage in Genesis with Dr. Naomi Wolf on her blog last week where Jehovah promises Hagar that her son, Ishmael, will be a "father of a great nation as numerous as the stars in the heavens....here it is again! https://www.biblestudytools.com/genesis/passage/?q=genesis+16:9-12
A very relevant passage. Looks like a wonderful study!
Amen!
You know for a fact? Sounds like propaganda to me.
Do not believe everything msm tells you. Many of those shipments are arms. Much like the hotels in NYC, occupied by these same type people, are receiving arms daily. We will soon be under attack in the same way. This administration, as Obama’s did, is turning a blind eye to the fact that they are being sent arms.
Israel has interrupted the flow of arms to Gaza and the West Bank many times coming in as ‘medical supplies and foods’. Don’t be blinded by the lying media.
There are millionaires in Gaza and those were the first buildings destroyed (with a knock on the roof 30 mins beforehand). Power corrupts, even in Gaza. If they used the money for education and hospitals, just by population alone Israel would be Arab again within 10 years.
They’re far too consumed with hatred to do anything but make war on Israel.
Listening to naftali you would think he is infected with the same hate that even surpasses Nikki Hailys'
Quote "finish them nuttyahoo finish them" on fox News
So that mean if have to finish it means something you have already started 70 years ago.
Israel has been occupied by Jews for millennia. The Arabs tried living there, but the Land would not accept their occupation. There are times of famine in different places, but are not long-lived. Except in one place. Israel
When all but a remnant of Israel was taken into captivity the 2nd time into Babylon, The Land that was once called the “land flowing with milk and honey” became desolate. 1800 years with virtually no rain until God’s people started coming-family by family-back into the Land.
The following is from a book “Prophecies For The Era off Muslim Terror”
“The devastation was noted by everyone throughout history. In 1267, upon arriving in the Land, Rabbi Moshe ben Nachman writes “What shall I tell you about the Land? There are so many abandoned places and the desolation is all encompassing. Jerusalem is the most desolate. Judea more than the Galilee”
Even Mark Twain said, in the 1860’s
“The soil is rich enough but is given wholly to weeds. A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action. We never saw another Human being on the whole route. We pressed on toward Jerusalem. The further we went, the hotter the sun got and the more rocky and bare, repulsive and dreary the landscape became.....There was hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive [tree] and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.....Jerusalem is.....lifeless. I would not desire to live there. It is a hopeless, dreary, heartbroken land......It sits in sackcloth and ashes. Over it broods the spell of a curse that has withered its fields and fettered it’s energies.....it is desolate and unlovely. Can the curse of the Deity beautify a land? It is no more of this workaday
world.” “
Even The rain came back the same way.....sprinkles to full-on rain showers. Their return to the Land has caused the desert to blossom, as was prophesied.
According to God, the land is blessed ONLY when Hebrews are there.
But Deuteronomy 28 and Leviticus 28 cane about as a consequences of ignorance of and disobedience to the promises they made to obey him.
And so have we.
Exactly... by all accounts from the 19th century, the land referred to as “Palestine” was a desolate wasteland and the population was steadily decreasing; by some accounts the population was around 300,000 at mid-century. However, there has been a continuous Jewish presence in the land since Abraham; In fact, the Jews are the only existing indigenous people of Palestine.
Yesterday Israel bombed an ancient Greek Orthodox church where Christians had taken refuge believing that a church compound would be respected and safe.
No one cares about Middle Eastern Christians in this country, as we saw with the atrocities of ISIS in Syria. Not even Christians care about their brethren. These Christians in the Middle East suffer so much, sometimes from Muslims ( but not always as Christians and Muslims have gotten along for centuries in Syria and Palestine), other times from Israel and other times from the indifference of the United States (foreign policy) towards them.
Actually bomb the building next to the church. I try not to believe the everything until I check it out.
Oh geez the videos are there for to all to see.
It's pretty much wasted
Kind of reminds me of the left retards pulling down all the monuments in the USA wiping out our past...
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/20/world/middleeast/israel-airstrike-gaza-city.html
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/10/20/we-were-baptised-here-and-we-will-die-here-gazas-oldest-church-bombed
Murder, rape, torture and kidnapping are what the US military and mercenaries did to the Indigenous people of the Americas and Hawaii.
The US is as guilty of these crimes as any other country. We are all terrorists at one time or another and reaping the rewards of terrorism to this very day.
Hypocrisy is blind.
And they took the land from Israelis who had been there for thousands of years. Gazans have been imprisoned by their own elected government - Hamas. Hamas has been free of Israeli soldiers for around 18 years, so it is not occupied. Study up on your history. Here's a primer.
https://quillette.com/2023/10/21/its-not-the-occupation/?ref=quillette-daily-newsletter
I meant "Gaza has been free of Israeli soldiers..."
It isn’t theirs; God, the creator of heaven and earth and everything in it, made a covenant with His people and deeded that land to the Jews. That land is their birthright and the exact parameters of that territory is clearly detailed in the Bible and they still don’t have all of the land God gave them. There is a huge difference between resistance and terrorism. I can’t believe any decent human being can call what’s been done by self proclaimed terrorists and terrorist nations as resistance!
I suggest you read the New Testament. The Covenant was made with ancient peoples and conditional upon their obedience to God's laws. They were broken, and in the New Testament, Jesus came to fulfill the Law. As a Christian, how can you possibly condone the atrocities Israel has perpetrated on the Palestinian people? However, we could both herry-pick the Bible from here to eternity. I simply ask you to look beyond what you believe. I did, and it's eye-opening.
From the New Testament. Does this sound like God has washed his hands of His people for all time?
Before, God, I will always stand for Israel against the demonic forces arrayed to wipe her from the face of the earth
. The Apostle Paul’s letter to the Romans 11: 25 ¶ For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 ¶ As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
And…
The Apostle Paul—-Jews belong to God
Romans 3:27-31
What occasion is there then for boasting? It is ruled out.
On what principle, that of works?
No, rather on the principle of faith.
For we consider that a person is justified by faith
apart from works of the law.
*Does God belong to Jews alone?*
Does he not belong to Gentiles, too?
Yes, also to Gentiles, for God is one
and *will justify the circumcised on the basis of faith*
and the uncircumcised through faith.
Except the LORD GOD gave them conditions to keep for that to be fulfilled and they did not nor do they keep them. Read your Bible thoroughly..not just the scriptures that say the land was given..there are a lot of "IFs" and "BUTs" that go along with it.
And there is this;
The Apostle Paul—-Jews belong to God
Romans 3:27-31
What occasion is there then for boasting? It is ruled out.
On what principle, that of works?
No, rather on the principle of faith.
For we consider that a person is justified by faith
apart from works of the law.
*Does God belong to Jews alone?*
Does he not belong to Gentiles, too?
Yes, also to Gentiles, for God is one
and *will justify the circumcised on the basis of faith*
and the uncircumcised through faith.
Paul did not say, God is finished with Israel.
Israel is the only nation in history with which God has a covenant relationship. He made 5 covenants with Israel and 4 are unconditional. (Gen.12:1-7; 13:14-17; Deut.29:1-30; 2Samuel 7:1-17) The covenants depend on God’s faithfulness, not Israel’s and they are to be interpreted literally. Although Israel rebelled against God, the Covenants were never replaced or repealed. They will be Israel’s possession for eternity.
And we made those same covenants with the God of Israel, and WE have broken that covenant. And you think that we won’t suffer for that?
He said that if He cut off a branch from the cultured Olive Tree (Israel) and grafted in a wild olive tree branch (us Gentiles) , that we had better NOT boast against the cultured olive tree, or He would cut US off and regraft the original olive branch in our place.
It’s a dangerous thing to boast against Israel.
Yeshua (Jesus was nOt His Name) means Salvation. He was a Jew in life, He died a Jew. His disciples were Jess. He had many followers who were Jews. He was resurrected as a Jew.
When you boast AGAINST ‘the Jews’ you boast AGAINST HIM.
Yikes. What a bad take.
We're stuck with Jab Mandaters (Israel govt) and Pedo Joe running the Western War Machine.
You guys can spend all the money you want in the middle east but please leave the rest of us out of your problems.
Florida Man, here is what God said in Zechariah
““Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of reeling to all the surrounding peoples when they besiege Jerusalem as well as Judah. Moreover, in that day I will make Jerusalem a massive stone for all the people. All who try to lift it will be cut to pieces. Nevertheless, all the nations of the earth will be gathered together against her.”
Zechariah 12:2-3 TLV
Rather than share what I believe to be true I will ask you this question: how is it that some Arabs live in Israel with their property and with full rights, serving in the parliament and attending Israeli universities, even serving in the military etc.? Why do some Arabs enjoy this full citizenship and others live in Gaza? Hopefully your search will reveal some information around the Caliphate and their role in the creation and preservation of Gaza
Try studying some history instead of Jew-hating propaganda.
There has never been a Palestinian State
LuAnne Oct 13
An honest question here. Is there such a thing as Palestinian people? It's my understanding they are a mix of Jordanian and Syrian Arabs and there's never been a Palestinian state.
Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state.
-Before the British Mandate existed the Ottoman Empire, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Mamlyuk Islamic State of Egypt, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Islamic State of Mamlyuk of Egypt, the Empire of Ayubid existed, not the Palestinian State. Goffrey IV of Bulonsky, known as Godfrey de Bouillon, conquered Jerusalem in 1099
-Before the Empire of Ayubid, there existed the French and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, the empires of Omeyad and Fatimid existed, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the empires of the Omeyad and Fatimid, there was the Byzantine Empire, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonees State, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Hasmoneysk state, it was the Selevkid state, not the Palestinian state.
-Before the Selevkid Empire, there existed the Empire of Alexander of Macedonia, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Empire of Alexander of Macedonia, there was the Persian Empire, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylon Empire, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Babylon Empire, there existed the Kingdoms of Israel and Judea, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judea, the Kingdom of Israel existed, not the Palestinian State.
-Before the Kingdom of Israel, there was a theocracy of the twelve knees of Israel, not the Palestinian state.
-Before the twelve generations of Israel's theocracy, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaan cities-empires, not the Palestinian state.
In fact, this piece of earth was everything EXCEPT THE PALESTINE STATE.
Palestine was a made up word for a made up land that the Roman Emperor Hadrian declared after he put down the second Jewish Rebellion.
And ANY time it was used, every time it was used, by anyone thereafter and until 1948 it meant ANY people living in the land formerly known as Judea or Israel.
Then in 1948, they created Israel as a Nation again.
BEAUTIFUL, historically and chronologically written, Willing State! KUDOS!
If this refers to the history of Israel; a commenter named LouAnne first posted it. I’ve seen it before and I copied it because it’s so useful.
Yes...that's what I was talking about, Willing - thanks for sharing the source of the historical anthology!
Israel has had Jews occupy the Land for millennia. When these Arabs that you call ‘Palestinians’ (Philistines) cane to the Land, they were coming back because of the money flowing from the West. They were nomads. They HAD NO LAND.
And since 1948 have been trying to destroy the people of Israel. And the surrounding Arab nations do not want them. Why? Because they were known as rabble-rousers even to the rabble-rousers. They were grifters. No one wants them. In the Arab nations Palestinians are simply tools to use to keep tensions stirred up against Israel. Their leaders have built multi-million dollar homes in ‘safe haven states’, while they deprive their citizens in Gaza and the West Bank. They keep them uneducated and ruled by fear.....they terrorize their own people. THEir LEADERS are the very ones keeping them imprisoned.
Ignorance of history and still believing MSM is inexcusable in this day and age.
Guess what, at the same time, 850,000 Jews were expelled from Arab countries where *they* had lived for generations. Most went to Israel, and have never been allowed back in the countries from whence they came. A sizeable portion of the Israeli population is Arab and Muslim, and have Israeli citizenship, own land, hold elected office, etc.
They are not “people.” They are sub-humans that thrive on hate and domination. They worship a child molesting pervert. They have a worse than Stone Age mentality.
You won’t see that in the propagated propaganda I’m sure.
Parrots are so boring.
What I want to know is why people pay good money so they can post disinformation like this. Quit reading propaganda and read history.
Stock characters in a Plautine comedy.
All the world’s a stage, right? 😞
Although I am not Jewish myself, I do have Jewish family members. One thing I learned years ago is to understand that, while Zionists are Jews, not all Jews are Zionists. For those who simply want to hate, that may not make much difference but, for those who seek to understand the nuances, it's an important distinction.
It's like choosing to hate and blame all Americans because of the foreign policy actions of neo-Cons.
Most people know nothing about Israel other than what they’ve absorbed from propaganda. Some of it is from churches that claim they are Israel now. Someone show me that from scripture! Most of the propaganda is from the Marxist Universities and the MSM.
But look what passions are aroused from the continuing battle between Issac and Ishmael. Everyone takes a side, or claims there is ‘moral equivalency’, so no side can be taken. But, it can’t be ducked that easily, that too, is siding with demonic forces.
I’m beginning to believe that most of these ‘anti-Zionist Jew haters’ on here are paid propagandists themselves. The ignorance of Scripture is appalling.
I would be willing to bet they can quote the Hadith and the poisonous Quran.
I suspect as much myself.
We're having a discussion on a covid blog. Blaming the other side of 'hate' is a lame attempt to shut down discussion.
The Covid scam and the Jab industry was promoted by Jewish people (CDC director, all the Jab CEOs, etc).
It's clearly valid to discuss all the players in the scamdemic.
I wasn’t talking about the scamdemic. I was talking about the Jew-haters. There are those (not Jews) who saw an opportunity to harm the Israel people with a poisonous jab. Just as there are people in our govt (Pence, Fauci, Birx.......)many people who love money more than they love anything and have bought Bill Gates idea that the population must be culled.
The principalities of darkness behind all this is demonic. Ironic that we have a DemonicRAT political group and that’s the very group that hates Israel-and many self-hating Jews have joined them. That’s the vey group that tries to instill fear and panic, not just here, but all over the world.
And we are the nation that pushed abortion o. the world, exporting it to other nations.....tied to aide packages. So Israel and the US share blame as well as other nations who have zero care for their people.
Zelensky – Ukraine’s president – is not only a former comedian, but also Jewish.
https://jewishquarterly.com/articles/extract/2022/02/volodymyr-zelensky
And he's a degenerate pervert, playing the piano with his pants at his ankles. And the gay thumping videos (several of those). On and on with him.
Perversion is all over the world. US is leading the way. Your point, Fl Man?
Zekensky is no Jew
Notice the website: jewishquarterly.com
Jews are one tribe and one tribe only. Judah.
“People and nations are tapped to play a part. The Jew is the scapegoat, the Nazi is the bad guy...” ...we could add the same for the US politicians, most any politician anywhere, and so many others. But what is the common denominator among those who are tapped? It is not their ethnicity, their politics, or even their “connections”, it’s simply that they CHOOSE that fallen part of their human nature that puts SELF ahead of others - they either have something to gain, or something very important to them to lose, and so they choose that, over doing what they know to be right. We can judge and condemn them for that, but we must use their example to examine our own hearts, as these choices are presented to us all, every day, all day long. This fact does not excuse those whose choice results in the suffering and death of hundreds or thousands or millions, but perhaps it requires such shocking violence to arrest our attention and allow us the opportunity to understand the suffering and death that happens in our own souls when we do the same. No one is innocent, no not one.
"Kiev hasn’t been run by a Jew for 75 years" - I think he meant "currently" not for the whole 75 years in Ukraine as it's been a country for only 3 decades.
Was a useless point he made, as the discussion was about all the billions poured into Ukraine after Zelensky was in power. So yes, the quarter trillion dollars was all invested in them during Jewish leadership of the two countries.
Florida Man. Why don’t you just come on out and say you hate Israel and all Jews, instead of beating around the Bush?
BTW, thanks for the love you’ve shown to my posts over the years Florida man. I may be Jewish and German but thanks to Jeff I live in Florida where people love their freedoms. I’m 100% Floridian American
It's an interesting discussion for sure!
So; rounding up, $160 billion over 75 years for Israel equals $2.13 billion per year.
$120 billion over 2 years for Ukraine equals $60 billion per year.
Israel is the only ally the U.S. has had in the Middle East, and I dare say we have gotten some benefit for our money.
The only benefactors from the money sent to Ukraine are the degenerates in our government.
This moral equivalency doesn’t work
But, but, but,...Hunter needs his whore and drug funding!
Israel provides many other things as well. But they need to launder money through Ukraine so all that was sent there isn’t going to fund the war that’s failing anyway. Some is in Zelensky’s pocket and much is probably coming through she’ll companies back to Biden and his ilk.
Scott Ritter on Israeli Hospital Bombing: Both Hamas and Israel could have reasons to hide the truth about the Al-Ahli hospital blast - https://www.rt.com/news/585443-gaza-hospital-strike-truth/
It's been confirmed from MULTIPLE sources, including the US and France that it was a Palestinian rocket that hit the PARKING LOT next to the hospital. 500 did not die. Absolute propaganda from Hamas. There are even voice recordings of Hamas saying it wasn't Israeli.
So much of this is in dispute. There's no 'confirmed' anything regarding this incident.
Scott Ritter is a left-wing propagandist
So you don't like the way Ukraine war is going bad.
So you shoot the messenger.
There would have never been a war in Ukraine if it weren’t for Obiden trying to cover his and Hunter’s tracks. Your comments are making less and less sense. Hatred of Jews and Hatred of Israel does that to people.
By no measure is Zelenskyy Jewish. One of his grandparents may have been but he has never identified as a Jew, participated in Jewish life, studied Torah, attended synagogue or done any of the overt actions required to an identifiable Jew. He is a disgrace as a human being. A grifter and a crook and a thug.
Exactly.
He says that he is. I think it's a hate crime (according to 'lefty rules') to deny a Jewish person his heritage.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220304-zelensky-invokes-judaism-to-rally-support-for-ukrainian-cause
Zelensky is not Jewish. The US gives lots of money to lots of nations and entities. The ones we shouldn’t be giving money to are WHO, WEF, UN, etc, and Ukraine. Ukraine bc that’s where the CIA has all their bases for all the nefarious things they do and Zelensky was installed. He was an entertainer, a nobody, they used him as the face of Ukraine because they could control him. The letter agencies are all corrupt and they are behind ruling the world. If you want to criticize that’s where you should aim it.
Are there some people of Jewish descent involved in those agencies, yes, and the majority of them disowned their own heritage long ago, (Soros is one example, Harari is another), but there are many more involved who are not Jewish and are from nations all over the world, many in Europe.
Everyone wants to blame the Jews for everything because Jew hatred has existed from the moment God made them a people and gave them the land.
Criticizing people for being given international aid, if you disagree with it, isn’t an issue, especially if there’s good reason. I don’t think there is because unlike Ukraine, Israel is a partner with the IS sharing technology and other things. Much of the internal tech in our military fighter jets is Israeli made. There is a give and take relationship there.
Criticizing them just because they’re Jews or because you buy into the lies--there are many to choose from, some people believe them all like they’re trying to rule the world, they already control the world and all bad things come from them, they take from the US and give nothing, they mistreat Palestinians, occupy land that isn’t theirs, they cause the wars and strife in the area--that’s where you are wrong to criticize.
Almost everyone of their neighbors wants them dead, as in non-existent. They have fought this since Abraham was called by God, and they will fight it until God’s full plan comes to fruition. It’s coming soon too. I hope everyone chooses the right side. I’m on the side of God.
About Israel and her people, God says: I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you.
I understand that Tel Aviv is like our Los Angeles/Hollywood. So, no surprise that our corrupt government would send lots of money to foster that lifestyle.
Seems to be the case.
I look at all sides. Just like in a divorce, there is a lot if gray area where neither party is an angel. Neither side has pute motives.
That heing said: my ancestors on the Greek island of Chios suffered a bloody massacre by the Ottoman Turks. During that massacre, many fled to the insides of churches hoping to he safe. They wete wrong and the blood stained the marble permanently and can be seen today.
Yesterday Palestinians ran to the inside if a very old Greek Orthodox church, clutching babies and elderly. They also hoped that their lives would be spared. The Church was bombed by the Israelis. Why isnt this in the news?
Hana’s has always used elderly, women, children ..... even their very own children.... as shields. Cowards , every one.
It's since then come out that the bombing was targeted on the building next to the church. The church was damaged and apparently some people inside it were killed, but the initial news reports that Israel "bombed a church" were, as usual, too hasty.
Yes I read the same, however it was within the church *compound* which is not quite humanitarian either.
But then again why should Israel be any different from the US during the Kosovo bombings of targeted ancient Orthodox churches and monasteries? We were even asked to cease fire for Pascha( Easter) to allow the people safe worship on the biggest celebrated holy day if Eastern Christianity, and we did not!!
My question is why 'hate' always seemingly one sided? Or why has 'hate' been weaponized so as to sew mouths shut? Why and who gets to define hate and to what purpose? And do we hate through 'legislated' anti-hate? And what about hating what God hates, which seems to have been totally discarded in America of the day?
I love America and am so tired of the wars. If ALL the media is now Gaga over Israel and everyone here has been skeptical, I don’t like the division in these comments now. Believe your truth, but most people honestly have no idea what the truth is. Truth is written by victors. I’m on americas side and what’s happening to America!
This is interesting.
Some people say that history is written by the victors. When they are saying this, they mean that a version of 'what happened' is written which reports in a self-serving way what the rulers of a country want the people of that country and/or the rest of the world to believe. Such histories may, and usually are right on the main things which happened but leave out elements key to knowing what really went on. This, for example, would be the difference between the government's version in the 911 NIST Report or the Warren Report and what actually went on, and things like forensic evidence 'conveniently' omitted in the official reports. We with passage of time and citizen scrutiny now know all the details left out of these reports (if we care to search them out) and these details completely change how we are able to think about what actually happened.
It commonly heard today that we should respect 'his or her truth'. Or words or shadings to this effect. This is also wrong. People don't 'have a truth.' There is either truth, or else there are lies. And lies embedded, and seeded into truth is also not the truth which is why the oath taken before a witness testifies contains the words 'the whole truth, nothing but the truth so help me God.' (Swearing on God used to be taken seriously!)
Exactly. Call it being a devils advocate, I just don’t like seeing my skeptical friends here post pro Israel or pro hamas because whatever news source is telling them to. If you’re pro Israel bc of the Bible, that’s NOT what I’m talking about. In a nut shell I’m just saying be Skeptical!!!! All countries have their skeletons.
Thanks for writing back. You are appreciated, very much so.
The Side Choosers have been falling all over themselves this past week, and they have all the reasons in the world why their choice is the right choice. But if you will notice, there seems to be only two main choice, 1) Sympathy for Hamas, Gaza, etc., or 2) righteous indignation and unquestioning support for the greatest ally in the Middle East. This TWO Choice Model employed by the Apex Elites (either a predominant faction and/or the Money Power behind the curtain) is how The Rulers game to people into doing their bidding. The Two Choice Model, either this or that, is a Trick. The heart of the Trick is to get people to do and/or support what they would not support or do otherwise given the real facts and an accurate historical frame of reference.
I always look for other choices. The third choice is actually what should be the first choice. This would be choose God first (a moral universe by law ... God's law), then family and what is good for the family, and then what is good for the larger family which is the good of the country. Notice that most of the choosing this week was a choosing of tangental externals over the internal good of our own country (such as securing the border and end the warefare being waged internally. Getting Congress and financial affairs under control. And so on.
I suggest actually reading Genesis and Exodus in entirety, from first chapter, first verse to the last of each. And then do it again. The other books of the Pentateuch as well, but don't know how many would take up this suggestion. Cherry-picked verses in the Liturgy do not portray the whole picture. Just my two cents, from my personal experience.
You’re right. Most people have never read the Bible end to end. I started systematically working my way through it about 9 years ago and have gone through it 4 times. Now halfway through a 5th read. The connections and context gained by doing this completely reshaped my world view.
I agree! Without truth, which can only be found in God’s Word, you will never have a complete understanding of what these conflicts are about and why it will continue to be a conflict until the end of time. But God will make all things right in the end; He has told us that, too, in His Word. I’m with Jeff; we’re living in the End Times. Seek God! Repent! Jesus died for all who know and believe in Him as Lord and Savior, Jews and Gentiles alike.
People, some with good intentions, cherry pick scripture. They drop it into speeches, studies, and sermons to fit the theme of the day. By not including the surrounding scriptures, putting the scripture in context, they pervert the very Word of God. Those out-of-context scriptures are used to guilt people, stir people, and make people take action. If only people read their Bible, instead of letting others translate the Words for them...
Yes, reading the Bible as a whole provides a flavor, a deeper understanding of God and his purposes. Context is everything!
I actually like how Father Mike Schmitz podcast is doing “Bible in a Year”. It well organized and he talks about what was going on at that time and not how we do things currently. Very well done. Plus, I enjoy listening to it and tend to rewind a lot when I want to hear it again. I learn better by hearing than reading.
I also listen to Fr. Mike; the Bible and the Catechism. He is a treasure!
Actually I have read through the Bible every year since 1989. And it’s still new to me.
I am just now completing my 2nd reading of the Old Testament. I plan to start over again. It's like re-runs on TV. I missed things the first time and expect to find that the case again. It's eerily the case how little has changed over time; mostly just the names. Human behaviour is most repetitive.
The hatred of the Jews is a hatred for their God. It’s Satanic.
Isn’t hatred for any race or ethnicity a form of hatred for God? And isn’t it the case that hatred plagues all mankind due to our fallen nature in Adam?
Yes, as followers of Christ, we are to love our neighbors, and yes, we are all sinners. Speaking from a Biblical perspective, I believe the hatred of Jews falls into a different category, because it is through them that God has planned our redemption in Christ.
Jesus showed us how to love even those who hate and persecute you.
Indeed! It’s unnatural but possible through Christ.
And yet of all the races, all the ethnicities, God chose one to be the light for all the others.
To hate them is a particular slap in the face of God.
Like poking God in the “apple of His eye”
Zechariah 2.
Yes!
Absolutely
Newsflash. The Jews don’t have a unique God.
Very true. But who is there god? It's certainly not the Christian God, nor is it the Muslim god. And believe it or not, it is possible to hate their god or their portrayal of the Christian God without hating them.
Jews do believe in the God of the Old Testament. Some do not believe in Jesus as the Messiah, the Savior of the world. Those who do believe in Jesus as the Messiah are known as Messianic Jews. Christians believe in both.
A Jewish pastor & Christian called himself a "completed Jew". I like that term as well.
My husband is also a completed Jew
To deny Christ is to deny the Father. You can't both believe in God and not believe in God, which is what your espousing.
It's like telling the man who has asked you to marry him, "Yes, I love you, but you'll have to get rid of your son because I hate him." Doesn't work as humans, and it certainly doesn't work with the Lord.
God is God. There is only one God. Those who misconstrue God’s character and will are gambling with eternity. It behooves us all to read and meditate on God’s Word in context, asking God to open the eyes of our hearts so that we can truly comprehend His will for each of us.
What you say is true. I wish that we would all look just to Scripture for truth. There are many false teachers who would lead people astray into false theologies. No one who reads Scripture (Old and New Testaments) alone would ever be a Jehovah's Witness, Mormon, or white or black Hebrew Israelite, among others.
Did you not know that Jesus (Yeshua) is a Jew? He said that He only obeys the Father. If you do away with the love of the God of Israel, you canNOT have His Son. And the Son says that He and His Father are ONE.
You speak narrowly. God is the God of Israel and all nations. Otherwise He could not have promised Abraham that he would be the father of all nations.
No. He may be the God of some of the people in those nations, but He is nOt the God of those nations. He refers to Himself as the God of Israel, and to Israel as His people, set apart for Himself.
He said He chose them, not because they were a great people, but because of His love and His promise to Abraham, Isaac SND Jacob.
You are calling Him a liar.
You are correct in that God set Israel apart, but with the life, death, and resurrection of Christ, the Mosaic covenant ended. Now all who love God and are called according to His purpose are brought into the family of God through the New Covenant. All people who join the New Covenant, regardless of nationality, are His chosen people, the apple of His eye, and His bride.
The God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob is the God of the Jewish people as well as Christians. I’m not sure what Bible you’re reading.
I truly believe that most of us just want to live our lives in safe places and have opportunities for ours and our children's futures. We have way more in common than we don't. They constantly distract us to keep us divided so we aren't looking at their crimes. They know it is over for them if we ever come together in unity against them.
Isn't that the truth bomb of the day.
You are correct CH. Everything that is happening is propaganda orchestrated by the EVIL Global elite to kill , destroy & divide.
This is truly a battle between good and evil.
Time for ALL of God’s people to UNITE against a common enemy.
You know of course that that part of Esther you quote is Mordecai's impressing on Esther to stop being timid and self preserving and speak up as a Jew to save the Jews or she (and her family) might die and some other Jew will have to do the sovereign work of God. It isn't a call for non Jews to stand up (though all good men should stand for what is right). Also, it wasn't a question of freedom v slavery but a question of life v death. Esther sorted it thanks be to God.
Raptor, you are right. I invoked Esther in reference to myself speaking up as an American, German and Jew. The duality that I have a Nazi and Holocaust ancestry could be considered shameful, but I don’t believe in coincidence. I’m the product of a conflict where both sides lost freedoms and I’m proud of my heritage in its entirety
I believe we are a human product of all those who have gone before us in terms of ancestry. There is way more to 'who we are' than just eye color and body type. We carry deep within us, beyond the shallow epidermis, a much deeper tie to the progenitors and also their behaviors and experiences. I do not discount anyone's ability to see more than others in certain areas and take intellect and intuition as an important part of all we carry to get us through the life we have carved out for ourselves "Genetic changes stemming from the trauma suffered by Holocaust survivors are capable of being passed on to their children, the clearest sign yet that one person’s life experience can affect subsequent generations." It sounds as if you have a very interesting heritage, dagney. I do too, and am finding it most helpful to call upon as who I am as these days get crazier and crazier. God is good and we are fearfully and wonderfully made. To WASTE that experience of all who have before us is shameful. Yes, our bodies are awesomely made, but, there is way more to it than that.
https://www.mountsinai.org/about/newsroom/2015/the-guardian-study-of-holocaust-survivors-finds-trauma-passed-on-to-childrens-genes
I wish all jews in America (and elsewhere) felt as you do about speaking out. NO matter what they think of the current government or Israel, their own people have endured something so terrible it requires an answer. Christians in America seem like they have more love for the Jewish people than Jews do! Pitiful.
Many prominent Jews are self-hating to a genocidal degree. They’ve been persecuted and hated throughout the ages. That has to have an effect. Just part of the complex puzzle that God will bring to completion.
Yes. However, your unique heritage does not confer upon you the moral authority to dictate the validity of others' feelings, reactions, or responses.
I believe that goes without saying 🙏 My only stance is one for Freedom and as such people are free to disagree with me even on that point
Also, what does a nation's people do when it becomes clear the leaders are not in it for them but have it out for them? Like if Esther decided to preserve herself. What should Mordecai then do?
What?
I am going to guess at what the what is.
You live in a nation. Your nation. Imagine this situation and what you might do or think. The people who rule the nation are doing things demonstrably not in the best interest of the people and in fact do things to the people to hurt them or even kill them (possibly knowing) and do not defend the people against attackers with all their might. In other words you, Willing Spirit, find yourself living in a nation with democide on their heart and mind. What does a man like Mordecai (esther's uncle who raised her and loved her) who loves his country and (most of all) loves his people do? What does a woman like Esther who loves her family and loves her people and sees this thing unfolding... what does she do? Does she act? Speak (as Dagny awoke), or remain silent? In the case of the Jews, of course God has a plan and it will not be thwarted. If one man refuses, another will do it.
We see it all around us if we dare look. Jews in particular since Abraham I suspect, have been in the bullseye. You have looked. Otherwise you would not be here on CnC and would have been jabbing yourself to death.
Dagny, do you distinguish between the nation of Israel (a people united by history, custom, language, faith, etc.) and the current political construct resulting, in part, from Balfour and Rothschild?
Yes ... and much more. And we also could take George Washington's advice and mind our own business, and save ourselves from the multi-layered onslaughts being deployed against us here at home?
Can anyone say the word 'Border'. And maybe Esther would agree?
Agreed.
George Washington was a very intelligently prolific man. He was ahead of his time.
Power did not corrupt him. Regardless of the date, that alone is a marvel. Plus he loved G-d to the end 🙏
It's OK, out of respect for the Lord, to spell out his name.
And I have read that Washington's contemporaries regarded Washington as having the best judgment of them all. By sound judgment plus eschewing rash actions, Washington won the War for Independence (with a little help from the French).
Just a little help from the French. Sometimes goes a long way... :-)
I may post on this in my stack after I have time to gather my thoughts
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Yes, well said, Dagny!
Those that are ‘picking sides’ with seething rage and vitriol in their hearts… weren’t paying attention during Covid and didn’t learn the true lesson of this pandemic.
Carey Wedler nails it on this Israel/Palestinian conflict!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CVGtoxdCreA
Moral equivalency is a very effective tactic of Satan.
And I guarantee you, I was paying avid attention during Covid, just as I am today.
Back in the 00's a blogger calling herself Babba Zee wrote: "The far left, the far right, and radical Islam meet at Jew Hate Junction."
Hate (or any other fringe or extremist view for that matter) is like a pendulum. If it swings far enough to either side, it eventually meets. I think that was a component of the OP.
Unfortunately people who are conservative let Leftists own language. People who are not them are Far Right Extremists. Such nonsense.
Long live the Israeli people but who pulling their strings?
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJwB1kjQ/
TRUTH. Nothing about October 7 makes sense . Question EVERYTHING.
Truth.
Sorry to say or maybe not the English et al. where and are responsible for 1946 and all going on in Palestine/Israel today ad now the Jesrael is a pawn. My ancestor, a talented lawyer, laid down his life by removing the picture of Hitler frows are getting back what is fair sand just for all the 70 years of killing, pain and suffering they have given to others in the middle east. Its all history just search and know. ramgbs.wordpress.com
True FREEdom has never been truly FREE...the FREEDOM of salvation through the shed blood of Yeshua came at the horrible price--the Son of Yahweh came to earth, humbled Himself and took on a "robe of flesh" so that He could shed that robe and give the gift of eternal life to all those who accept Him as personal Savior and Lord! Your family background is truly a microcosm of the Jewish nation! My father (we are Christian by belief and background) always said that "God will bless the nations who bless the Jews"...and that is my firm stance as well.
The people that control Israel are Ashkenazi Jews, people from Europe and Russia. Palestine was invaded by them. Palestinians didn't have anything to do with the holocaust. Lehi attempted twice to work with the Nazis, and they are now the Likud.
A bunch of invaders moved in, declared they were going to make a uniquely Jewish state where people ALREADY were living, fomented a war, created 2 million refugees, stole their land because using their MYTHOLOGY to justify it, murdered the negotiator, Count Bernadotte, sent to stop the civil war, and has continued the conflict ever since never negotiating in good faith.
They have, falsely, claimed that "if only the Palestinians laid down their arms there would be peace" - well, the West Bank did that, all that happens is settlements expand. When has the West Bank last done anything? Israel could, at any moment declare their borders unilaterally, and whatever they see fit to leave outside those borders can be "Palestine", they've had this ability for 40 years - so it's quite obvious they have no intention of implementing a two state solution.
Hamas was created by Israel to prevent the two state solution, and it was funded by Israel.
All this time, Israel claims that Zionism is the same as "Jewishness", and you're perplexed there's hatred of Jewish people in the area that they have demolished? Really. That's a big mystery to you.
You're not this stupid.
Israel is a criminal thug state. What if white anglo saxon protestants said they intended to make a nation exclusively for white anglo saxon protestants, run by them, and exclusively for their benefit? You'd call that the KKK, because that WAS what the KKK was when it finally died out in the late 1960's. Zionism is nothing more than the KKK for Jews. They have exactly identical philosophies.
Any criticism of anything Israel does, NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO, is met with screams of "anti-Semite", when they know this isn't true. Israel forged the Niger documents about yellow cake uranium being sold to Hussein to help start that war over non existent weapons of mass destruction, Israel lied about the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11, claiming Hussein did it when it was actually from Fort Detrick. The Iraq War did NOTHING for the United States, cost it tons of money, got 800,000 Iraqis killed, but Israel now gets 75% of it's petroleum resources from Iraq. I wonder why Israel planted all this false information?
If I point this out, which is ALL true, the only counter is "you hate Jews". No, I hate criminal syndicates, and that's who runs Israel. It's run by the Jewish mafia and people mindlessly, stupidly, ignorantly, constantly defend it.
BTW - the Exodus didn't happen, OF COURSE. There was no King David, that's a myth and Yahweh is the Babylonian god of war. Judaism was created in about 700 BC.
Do you follow the Talmud?
The zionist are not the jews that follow the Torah
https://t.me/dissidentPriests/83562
These Rabbis wayed in on the matter