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Sunnydaze's avatar

I was on the fence between Trump and DeSantis for reasons Jeff pointed out, and the vax issue that is the monkey on Trumps back.

However…. The more they indict him and arrest him the more solidified I am that he is over the target.

I also keep seeing things about DeSantis donors, I see DeSantis seemingly forgetting about Florida now and some issues of him not wanting to place tariffs on China 🤔 Wonder why that is. I haven’t done much research though so don’t hate me. Just seeing enough on the surface to start questioning some things about him. The whole debate with he and Newscum with Hannity leading it - if that’s actually true and not a Babylon Bee write up… is ridiculous too. Our country is in the crapper and this is what those two come up with. Smells like a DS operation right there. No thanks. Won’t watch it.

All it would take is one more indictment and I’ll write in Trumps name….or maybe there’s already enough indictments and arrests to warrant writing his name in if they keep it off the ballot.

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Florida Grown's avatar

I heard from two separate sources that DeSantis is friends with The Bush family. Hmm, Don’t care for that. I still want to know what was in the white envelope at GHWB’s funeral. Maybe AI can figure it out. Especially Jeb’s face at the end once he saw it.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I was just saying the same thing! Those envelopes are unforgettable as was the look on everyone’s faces ESPECIALLY Jebs. I hope someday we get to know 😂. I envision something like -they know everything. I’m sorry. Love dad.- Hahahahahaha

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

I shook Bush HW’s hand when I was 19 years old working on the Reagan-Bush campaign in DC. I at the time was a big fan of both Reagan and Bush. When I shook Bush’s hand, I pulled my hand back in shock because I felt this darkness coming from him and I looked at him in shock. He saw that I saw. I am guessing the envelopes contained some type if horror.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Wow. Not surprising either.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I heard that it said “they know everything”…not verified information but if you could see the looks on the faces. Rosalee and Jimmy Carter were there and noticed everyone looking at the notes and you could see them searching to see if they had one and looking on the floor as though it may have fallen out. Apparently he wasn’t in on it.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Probably said: "CIA killed JFK."

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Florida Grown's avatar

GHW passed in 2018. I think it said to all of them that “Joe Biden will be the next US President”. 😂 Have that in your head when you see the reactions from Hillary, Barack and Michelle, Laura and Jeb. 😆

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Tom's avatar

The envelope contained "81 million" votes for Biden.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

😂 😂

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Sunnydaze's avatar

😂 😂

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Roger Beal's avatar

A boarding pass for Epstein's private jet, maybe?

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Tom's avatar

A season pass for his island?

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Natalie's avatar

I have heard from Republican pollsters that DeSantis's money comes mostly from the super PACs, and he is very low in small donations from ordinary individuals. That is a sign of his weakness, as he has been spending tons of money (had to let go about a third of his staff), and the big donors are starting to wonder if they should give their money elsewhere, like Tim Scott or try to get Youngkin or Kemp to enter the race. (Youngkin and Kemp don't want to!) I've heard concerns that DeSantis's big donors have connections to China, like the billionaire Ken Griffin. He goes to elite fundraisers but refused to go to the Turning Point USA conference hosted by Charlie Kirk. Six thousand conservatives, mostly young people, were there, and DeSantis needed to go there and show he's not afraid to make his case, despite the fact that most were Trump supporters. (His support among young Republicans is low.) If you're afraid of the base, how can you go up against the Democrats? I gave him a donation early on but started looking more carefully when he flip-flopped on Ukraine. A huge disappointment for me! Vivek has been doing and saying the things that DeSantis should have been doing and saying. More and more DeSantis seems like just one more politician that is destined to disappoint me--and there have been many.

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Pam's avatar

Do your research on DeSantis. I was a supporter until i discovered that he is not what he appears. Lots of corruption, back room deals, and typical establishment RINO tactics - controlled opposition. I was so disappointed. Just one of the issues with him -https://lauraloomer.substack.com/p/new-video-how-ron-desantis-appropriated#play

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Judas mac's avatar

Laura Loomer🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣

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Pam's avatar

So you don't like Laura Loomer. Dispute the information with facts.

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Pam's avatar

So she mistakenly used the wrong name. How does that prove that the information regarding the misappropriation of monies from PACs is false? PACs financials are public information.

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Vicki's avatar

SO true, Pam....on SO many levels!

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I read Laura loomer sometimes, she has a hatred for DeSantis. & I’d rather he stay here & do his job.

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Annie's avatar

Scott, Kemp and youngkin, all have connections to the swamp gop. Kemp even attended wef. He's a no.

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Natalie's avatar

I agree. I heard that the guy who runs DeSantis's Never Back Down PAC was in charge of Youngkin's winning campaign in Virginia.

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Roger Beal's avatar

I do not expect the TDS folks in the GOPe ranks, or the Democrats, to understand that for every international economic action there is an offsetting economic reaction. But the folks here at C&C will get it:

Trump's tariffs on China not only protected certain US domestic industries, they also reduced Americans' price on all goods imported from China - because those tariffs forced the Chinese to revalue their currency vis-a-vis the dollar, to keep sales going forward.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

We have a name for people with an irrational loathing of Trump, but I see the just as irrational worship of Trump and ignoring/excusing all of the evil he did. Maybe they should be called DTS for deranged Trump supporters.

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WP William's avatar

yes, beware of ALL politicians and presidential aspirants; after all, they're POLITICIANS

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RunningLogic's avatar

I heard people in manufacturing say though, that while the idea was good, Trump didn’t understand or account for the fact that after so many years of offshoring and importing, there simply weren’t any manufacturers of certain components or products left in the US. And for some it would take years to bring them back because the skills and competencies to make the products have been lost. In the meantime, while these need to be built back up, American companies that have no choice but to source from China had to pay a lot more because of the tariffs 😕 So, it’s complicated. A good initiative on its face but not as simple or immediately beneficial to domestic manufacturers as it seemed.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I’m with you on this Sunnydaze. Desantis looked promising to me. But the fact that they just want to nail Trump and put him in the grave makes me think he is far more damaging and capable of removing the deep state!

I personally don’t care about the jab thing because to me he was convinced and concerned like the rest of us were INITIALLY with what PH told us. Again, as President he had to do something.

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Seaquinn's avatar

DeSantis is funded by big donors representing Wall Street. Trump is clearly representing the interests of the majority of Americans.

When DeSantis can fill an arena with 50,000 supporters, let me know. It's not boding well for the Governor that he is afraid to campaign in his home state.

The biggest problem for DeSantis is that he is a manufactured candidate created by the globalist-aligned elite. His presents as inauthentic and controlled.

Joe Biden did NOT win the 2020 election. The 2020 election was stolen from President Trump, and now we will have a courtroom circus showing just how corrupt our government and political voting process is. Time to sharpen our pencils.

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Pam's avatar

As a floridian and a member of one of the county Republican Executive Committees - i can tell you that the Republican Party of Florida is performing all kinds of shenanigans to "install" DeSantis as the primary candidate winner. He knows he doesn't need to campaign here in Florida - as the fix is in. It's a disgrace.

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Vicki's avatar

I'm a Floridian too....and this is so obvious AND sickening!

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Annie's avatar

It's desantis donors and backers that have me saying no. Lying Paul Ryan and a whole bunch of uniparty rinos. Go to theconservativetreehouse.com for more news. Decide for yourself.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Can someone in Florida please look up DeSantis' donors? Based on whatever campaign you are accusing him of, please. Let's get to the bottom of this, I hate accusing (or suggesting) without backup proof.

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Sam's avatar

Trump over the target? You might be right. This is a very interesting tweet.

https://twitter.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1687290102907555840

Look into the act she mentions that happened in 1871 after the civil war. I’ve heard about that, but I wasn’t sure if it was true.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I just went back and watched it all. Wow. I missed that she brought up all the gold Trump took back and they agreed!!! They even admitted they weren’t happy about it!! They knew about Trump taking the gold!!! Even Americans know nothing about his!!! I think that’s huge. Wow. Thanks for the link too!

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Sam's avatar

I’ve never heard about the Vatican having our gold nor that Trump took it back. I’m going to look into that act and try to understand it more. Someone had mentioned it to me before but they offered no links. I was taught that the civil war was only about slavery, but it was much more than that and it was about how our economy would change if the north won.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I knew about the gold. But honestly I thought that was conspiracy theory talking. I thought if it were true why wouldn’t it be more public knowledge because that seems like a huge piece. However….I’ve never heard anyone in a position like hers say that. And what floored me the most is the reactions of the interviewers!!! They didn’t poo poo it as conspiracy theory! They knew about it! “We didn’t like it”. They didn’t like it? That means they knew about it and it is true! That is what’s blowing my mind. If that is true….then there is way more true than even I was willing to acknowledge. Not surprising that other countries know more about the truth than Americans. The censorship and intentional hiding of pertinent information from the American public is so blatant. It’s no wonder Americans are so complacent. If Americans knew the truth they would stand up, I think.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Yes I knew all that. I saw footage of this last night and thought it was very interesting. I knew about the EO Trump did that Joe keeps renewing. The corporation stuff too. It does get interesting that Joe keeps renewing the EO. Why would he do that? 🤔.

Someone said to me yesterday that Trump kept himself from becoming part of the corporation by not getting paid to be president! He gave away his salary. He never took a dime from them. That was interesting too.

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Politico Phil's avatar

If they keep Trump off the ballot by throwing him in jail like the J6 political prisoners, Trump should back his son for President and Trump could say that once his son is in office, he will tell him exactly what to do. I'd vote for him and I think the American people would also. We're fed up.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

The harder they go after him the more my resolve becomes. How will they cheat if 100 million wrote in Trumps name? But in your scenario with Don Jr….I’d probably go for that to at this point!

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Kathy McCullough's avatar

I think so too... DeSantis has some ‘splaining to do...

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

These donors aren’t going to back Trump and DeSantis is the next fast horse in the race. Doesn’t mean he is not an excellent candidate. Again his actions speak volumes.

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M VARR's avatar

Jeff is a lawyer.

Ron is a lawyer.

Birds of a feather look out for each other.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I think that’s an unfair statement about Jeff. He has proven himself time and again with his integrity. Everyone on the comment section gets to voice their opinions about who they like or don’t like for various reasons….Jeff has stayed pretty neutral with this subject, in my opinion. But what’s wrong with him having an opinion too? Without people taking jabs at him for voicing it. 🤷‍♀️ Just the way I’m seeing it.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I agree. I, too, prefer DeSantis over Trump for many reasons.

Does that make me suspect? Worthy of attack? Part of the uniparty?

I would answer no.

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M VARR's avatar

Bottom line America has too many lawyers serving in government.

They write laws which they KNOW will generate income for their profession.

Serve the law or make the law.

NOT BOTH!

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I understand your point, M VARR. I really do.

We’ve been hurt, tremendously, by the those in the law profession.

I just can’t accept that being a lawyer disqualifies you from serving in government.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

There are attorneys with impeccable character and integrity as well as shady, dishonest lawyers. The same goes for every profession. I judge a person by their character, their integrity, honesty, loyalty, courage in the face of adversity as well as their accomplishments. No man is our savior except Jesus Christ. I’m not looking for a perfect man (there is none), I’m looking for the person who loves our country, who will defend our Constitution and who isn’t beholden to anyone except we, the people. I have a pretty good idea who that is.

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M VARR's avatar

Lawyers are always talking about conflicts of interest.

There should be a limit on the number that can serve.

We need representation from other professions.

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WP William's avatar

Public SERVICE was meant to be a resume enhancer NOT a Career of enrichment and entitlement and abuse. Elected office truly was initially meant to serve the public and the nation, not what it quickly devolved into and has so deplorably and almost universally become--mostly due to the legal practitioners and the self-serving systems they are architects of that guide and guard and rule over us all. The laws of unjust men are unjust and serve the lusts of unjust men.

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M VARR's avatar

Nuetral?

In this article Jeff writes

"PDJT is a flawed candidate"...do you know how many times I have read statements like this from never trumper republicans?

He is NOT neutral when he makes statements like this.

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Natalie's avatar

I agree. It goes without saying that Trump is a flawed candidate. DeSantis is a flawed candidate. Every candidate has flaws.

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JW's avatar

There is good, bad and ugly in every person, candidate and you just have to hope you draw the long straw.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I agree he is flawed but so is DeSantis and every single one of us. He stated the obvious, I think. This is the first time, I think, that he has made comments leaning one way vs another. He told us in the beginning he wouldn’t endorse one over the other (yet). But, again, it IS his platform and research and writing. Should that disqualify him from stating his opinion? We don’t have to agree with his opinion. I don’t necessarily agree with it. I was just saying I didn’t think he deserved to get jabbed (not in the vax sense 😉) for revealing his opinion. I appreciate things you comment on as well. You have made good points along the way. And, I agree that all these politicians are lawyers and that’s not good either. You bring up valid points about that in another comment. But, Jeff seems to be one of the good lawyers and I appreciate that. And I don’t lump him in with the corrupt ones.

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Natalie's avatar

I totally respect Jeff's opinions and feel he has the right to make any comments he wants. And I totally trust him as a good and moral person, lawyer or not. (I have a son who is an attorney, and he's definitely one of the good guys!) It's natural, being from Florida and fighting with DeSantis as he has, that he would feel positive towards him. But this forum is an opportunity to debate these subjects, and those of us looking at the race from outside Florida (or from inside Florida!) may have other thoughts, and it's important to be able to express these. We all have different resources and ways we find out information, and I want to hear opinions of others who have access to different media or who just have a different way of looking at this campaign.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good comment, very balanced.

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FedUpInOR's avatar

Everyone is flawed. We are human. I remember the election vividly, I had just had a baby. I was devastated, felt like the scales were coming off my eyes and I saw for the first time how evil our government is. Almost went to DC on January 6’th, thank God I didn’t. But Trump has issues, he gave federal funding to states who shut down (they could not financially have done this without him), he accelerated the vaccine process and has NEVER admitted he was wrong, he allowed Pence and Fauci to control the COVID response when he had the control to raise other physicians to that place. How can you not realize he is flawed? You can support Trump and still see that he made MANY mistakes. For the most part the wheels came off the bus when he was faced with COVID

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M VARR's avatar

You see "many mistakes".

I see PDJT lifting the curtain odious DC plutocrats that he did not have the power to remove.

The President is not a dictator that can do whatever he wants.

He exposed the rotten apples in DC and around the country.

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M VARR's avatar

he gave federal funding to states who shut down (they could not financially have done this without him).

WRONG.

Congress , with a DEM/RINO CONTROLLED CONGRESS, passed the COVID Trillion dollar blue state giveaway. Had PDJT vetoed it , it would have been overriden.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well maybe he should have vetoed it then?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I know. Jeff isn’t neutral about many things.

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Vicki's avatar

Havta agree! Not a neutral statement.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

“Jeff has stayed pretty neutral with this subject, in my opinion.”

Just to clarify, I did not say that particular statement was neutral. In the context of what I said, I was taking about how everyone in the comments voices their opinions and Jeff has stayed pretty neutral with this subject. This subject has been ongoing for years in many of his articles. I wasn’t meaning in todays substack article only. Then I continued by asking why it was wrong for him to voice an opinion finally. Anyway. It’s not a big deal. I just wanted to clarify so there was no misinterpretation of what was said, and no misunderstandings. That happens a lot with a keyboard.

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RandiG's avatar

Sunnydaze,

I wholeheartedly agree.

BUSH = CIA = CORRUPTION = PEDOPHELIA = DEEP STATE = DESANTIS

THEY ARE ALL LINKED. Nothing is separate. DeSantis is good to a point. With his ties to Bush, Paul Ryan, dark money, Cabal, he is their front man.

We need Trump, for no other reason than he is an outsider and is a fighter. DeSantis will be complicit like every other candidate who wanted to be installed.

Don’t fall for it! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏

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