In the state databases of voters, it shows how someone is registered and in which elections they voted (but obv. not *how* they voted). Political parties (and, I assume, pollsters; perhaps the general public, for all I know) can get these databases and from them contact people via the contact info in the database (which isn't always accu…
In the state databases of voters, it shows how someone is registered and in which elections they voted (but obv. not *how* they voted). Political parties (and, I assume, pollsters; perhaps the general public, for all I know) can get these databases and from them contact people via the contact info in the database (which isn't always accurate, but they'd keep going until they had the sample size they needed for their statistical estimate). I can't remember how 'likely voter' is typically defined, but it may be something like 'voted in 3 out of the last 4 elections' or similar.
Well in MO we don't have party registration, so no way of knowing if voters are R or D. The legislature did add a provision to an election bill in 2022 where you can now register as a party, but it is optional. (Reason - they are trying to push towards party registration is because D's vote for the weak R's in the primaries, so trying to keep the D's from getting R ballots in primaries). However, a lot of my R friends refuse to add their party to their registration as they say they will not get their vote counted. Not true, but a lot of people distrust the elections.
In Colorado, if you are registered as independent you can vote in either primary. As I'll be pretty comfortable with most of the R candidates, my husband and I are seriously considering switching to I, and vote for RFK Jr.
Also Colorado went from a red state to blue the moment mailin votes were ratified in our constitution.
In our transforming state of CO, I believe voters register as either R or D or one of the Listed minority parties--if none of the above then you are UNaffiliated. "independent" is an inaccurate, incorrectly defined term people use euphemistically. Indecisive would be more accurate.
Yes, Republican Party is doomed to near irrelevance in CO just relegated a permanent minority as a backdrop for bipartisanship and to whine occasionally to allow some venting. Independents and weak Republicans like Dick Waddams attack the "Trump Wing" and crazy Pro-Life lunatics who don't trust the Dems and the elections they oversee and tabulate with Dominion. My answer is--then why are you complaining???? LIFE is GOOD with FULL Democratic control so why NOT just applaud the GOP demise register as UnAffiliated and Buzz-off?
I get the frustration with the R party - in MO we have a lot of internal battles between the purists and what I call the 'big tent' Republicans. 2022 primaries were vicious, with a lot of negative campaigning between the NO compromise candidates and those who, at least in our blue county (but red state), had a fighting chance of winning as they were more moderate, and there IS a contingent of D's who are disgusted with their party's left turn. But the no compromise candidates who lost in the primary supporters largely stayed home in November, said they would not vote for a 'RINO', and the D's swept the county offices and picked up some seats in the MO legislature. Things are not looking good for 2024 either, too many discouraged R's who jumped in with both feet when covid happened and got active for the first time have thrown up their hands and disengaged. I keep saying, the left plays the long game, and we have to get smarter and work together, but it mostly falls on deaf ears. There is a big R enthusiasm deficit heading into 2024. Trump is huge in rural red areas but the D rot is spreading due to them fleeing the mess they made of the most populated areas.
Yes, our moderation crowd won out in primaries as we allow UAFs to vote, but general election even they were wiped out by an overreaching Dem party in all areas, we're worse off now and the media and money Reps blame Trump and the passionate wing of the party. The Dems are very progressive, bipartisan as often as they can be, pull back when something seems too radical for the moment, appeal to a moderate middle (that is all really socialist-minded in this ers), They are political professionals and completely funded and incestuous with Big Money Corporations and unions and silently allied with Anti-Trump Republicans and Anti-Right Republicans. The red areas of the state are becoming small islands with massive demographic shifts and a clamor for gvt. services and spending so how does one counter Santa Claus without appearing mean and calloused, uneducated and a do-nothing and partisan? We have no real vision only complaining and nostalgic fondness for what it used to be like so the Dem-Progressive machine gorges and grows and becomes more powerful and any opposition weaker and less effective.
Well a lot of our politicians pay a lot of lip service to Trump to get elected but then become whores to the lobbyists once they win. In contrast, I personally know some of these so-called RINOs and while I am not always happy with how they vote, they are not bought and paid for, and try mightily to be heard when trying to explain their votes - a lot of issues are complicated and people have short attention spans and don't listen. They see a NO vote on an issue they support and fly off the handle on social media and start tossing insults. Some are just bad bills - poorly written with too many loopholes, too vague, or not likely to withstand a legal challenge. So they have to decide to vote Y to satisfy the social media mob or vote N and work for a better bill next session. Despite a super-majority in the legislature, and a weak R governor we get little done. Some of it is just personal. There are senators that literally hate each other and will vote no just out of spite if they don't like the bill sponsor. Politics is a nasty business and too many people who have come to this realization just check out. But Santa Claus is also alive and well, voters passed Medicaid expansion due to an initiative petition process that is way too easy for outside D money to come in and manipulate the system to get stuff on the ballot with a one or 2 sentence summary that totally ignores the fine print and people fall for it every year. The pot legalization bill was an awful socialist scheme with over 25 pages of fine print that no one read and that passed last year. Potheads turned out in force which also helped the D's in purple areas. But the R's are afraid of backlash to do any meaningful initiative petition reform as the Ds and media scream 'subverting democracy' if they try to pass bills to reign this in. It's a year from 2024 primary election, and we already have 120 initiative petitions approved to circulate, 80% of them sponsored and funded by leftist groups from outside the state. They pay $20/hr+ to people to collect signatures. We have a LOT of work to do.
Most people distrust elections in Oregon Donna, an all vote by mail state. Precinct voting fostered a touch of community, even if we only vote every couple years. I would love to have that back.
In Oregon, where I live, the election officials can search for voters that have moved or are deceased but are still on the votor rolls. They then know how many fake mail-in votes are available to send out voted for the candidate "they" want to win. No one is knows it's happening.
Wow, didn't realize OR was ALL mail in?! I wouldn't trust that either. Our mail service, which used to be very good in my area has gone downhill markedly the past couple of years. MO has 6 weeks of in-person early voting with an excuse, 2 weeks of no excuse in person early voting, Have to have a photo ID. Mail in ballots if requested, have to be notarized. We still have issues but did get a no ballot harvesting and no zuckerbucks bill passed last year. I work as an election judge and vast majority of ballots in my area are cast on election day, in person. 10.9% mail in last November. Our SOS finally ditched ERIC after years of pressure, since he is running for governor, guess he thought it was a campaign issue, although a group who provided evidence that voter rolls were corrupt was blown off.
Donna, yes, all mail in voting since 1998. Oregon has not had a Republican governor since. Coincidence? Maybe. But probably not.
There is no chain of custody of your ballot once you drop it in the mail. There is no way of knowing if your ballot was counted, all you will receive (if requested) is confirmation that your ballot envelope was scanned. In the 2022 mid-term, 'special' recycle boxes were set up on college campuses for duplicate ballots that were sent out. In one whistle blower complaint there was a notice put out requesting workers to help fill out extra ballots (see battleground oregon.org for federal court case updates). Yes, Oregon elections are less than honest irregardless of what the recently resigned SoS claims. (That's a dirty story for another time). Oregonians have no confidence in their elections.
Wow that is so corrupt! Got curious and looked it up https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/oregon/ Oregon is not all that different from MO https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/missouri/ where the population centers go blue but the rural counties are red. I am in blue Jackson, and they are exporting their rot as high taxes and crime are leading D's to flee to surrounding counties. 2 of them, Platte and Clay to the north, Trump barely eked a win in 2020. R margin shrinks with every election. And even Jackson is really 2 counties - the KC part is deep blue and had their own (corrupt) election board, while the rest of the county - the suburbs went for Trump (although only 50.5%, while KC was 20%). But can't overcome that the population centers cancel out the rural/suburb/exurb vote. I suppose part of OR's problem is the CA refugees. MO was considered a bellwether state until 2012, state had picked the winner in every election for something like 50 years. But went for Romney in 2012 and Trump won handily in 2016 and 2020. A lot of the rural counties were 'Truman Democrats' who had the common sense to see that the D party had left them. S. MO is called the 'bible belt' and they vote their values, many of those counties went 80%+ for Trump. My hubby is a sales rep and travels the state. Says a lot of places people have never taken down their Trump signs/banners/flags.
In the state databases of voters, it shows how someone is registered and in which elections they voted (but obv. not *how* they voted). Political parties (and, I assume, pollsters; perhaps the general public, for all I know) can get these databases and from them contact people via the contact info in the database (which isn't always accurate, but they'd keep going until they had the sample size they needed for their statistical estimate). I can't remember how 'likely voter' is typically defined, but it may be something like 'voted in 3 out of the last 4 elections' or similar.
Well in MO we don't have party registration, so no way of knowing if voters are R or D. The legislature did add a provision to an election bill in 2022 where you can now register as a party, but it is optional. (Reason - they are trying to push towards party registration is because D's vote for the weak R's in the primaries, so trying to keep the D's from getting R ballots in primaries). However, a lot of my R friends refuse to add their party to their registration as they say they will not get their vote counted. Not true, but a lot of people distrust the elections.
In Colorado, if you are registered as independent you can vote in either primary. As I'll be pretty comfortable with most of the R candidates, my husband and I are seriously considering switching to I, and vote for RFK Jr.
Also Colorado went from a red state to blue the moment mailin votes were ratified in our constitution.
In our transforming state of CO, I believe voters register as either R or D or one of the Listed minority parties--if none of the above then you are UNaffiliated. "independent" is an inaccurate, incorrectly defined term people use euphemistically. Indecisive would be more accurate.
Yes, Republican Party is doomed to near irrelevance in CO just relegated a permanent minority as a backdrop for bipartisanship and to whine occasionally to allow some venting. Independents and weak Republicans like Dick Waddams attack the "Trump Wing" and crazy Pro-Life lunatics who don't trust the Dems and the elections they oversee and tabulate with Dominion. My answer is--then why are you complaining???? LIFE is GOOD with FULL Democratic control so why NOT just applaud the GOP demise register as UnAffiliated and Buzz-off?
I get the frustration with the R party - in MO we have a lot of internal battles between the purists and what I call the 'big tent' Republicans. 2022 primaries were vicious, with a lot of negative campaigning between the NO compromise candidates and those who, at least in our blue county (but red state), had a fighting chance of winning as they were more moderate, and there IS a contingent of D's who are disgusted with their party's left turn. But the no compromise candidates who lost in the primary supporters largely stayed home in November, said they would not vote for a 'RINO', and the D's swept the county offices and picked up some seats in the MO legislature. Things are not looking good for 2024 either, too many discouraged R's who jumped in with both feet when covid happened and got active for the first time have thrown up their hands and disengaged. I keep saying, the left plays the long game, and we have to get smarter and work together, but it mostly falls on deaf ears. There is a big R enthusiasm deficit heading into 2024. Trump is huge in rural red areas but the D rot is spreading due to them fleeing the mess they made of the most populated areas.
Yes, our moderation crowd won out in primaries as we allow UAFs to vote, but general election even they were wiped out by an overreaching Dem party in all areas, we're worse off now and the media and money Reps blame Trump and the passionate wing of the party. The Dems are very progressive, bipartisan as often as they can be, pull back when something seems too radical for the moment, appeal to a moderate middle (that is all really socialist-minded in this ers), They are political professionals and completely funded and incestuous with Big Money Corporations and unions and silently allied with Anti-Trump Republicans and Anti-Right Republicans. The red areas of the state are becoming small islands with massive demographic shifts and a clamor for gvt. services and spending so how does one counter Santa Claus without appearing mean and calloused, uneducated and a do-nothing and partisan? We have no real vision only complaining and nostalgic fondness for what it used to be like so the Dem-Progressive machine gorges and grows and becomes more powerful and any opposition weaker and less effective.
Well a lot of our politicians pay a lot of lip service to Trump to get elected but then become whores to the lobbyists once they win. In contrast, I personally know some of these so-called RINOs and while I am not always happy with how they vote, they are not bought and paid for, and try mightily to be heard when trying to explain their votes - a lot of issues are complicated and people have short attention spans and don't listen. They see a NO vote on an issue they support and fly off the handle on social media and start tossing insults. Some are just bad bills - poorly written with too many loopholes, too vague, or not likely to withstand a legal challenge. So they have to decide to vote Y to satisfy the social media mob or vote N and work for a better bill next session. Despite a super-majority in the legislature, and a weak R governor we get little done. Some of it is just personal. There are senators that literally hate each other and will vote no just out of spite if they don't like the bill sponsor. Politics is a nasty business and too many people who have come to this realization just check out. But Santa Claus is also alive and well, voters passed Medicaid expansion due to an initiative petition process that is way too easy for outside D money to come in and manipulate the system to get stuff on the ballot with a one or 2 sentence summary that totally ignores the fine print and people fall for it every year. The pot legalization bill was an awful socialist scheme with over 25 pages of fine print that no one read and that passed last year. Potheads turned out in force which also helped the D's in purple areas. But the R's are afraid of backlash to do any meaningful initiative petition reform as the Ds and media scream 'subverting democracy' if they try to pass bills to reign this in. It's a year from 2024 primary election, and we already have 120 initiative petitions approved to circulate, 80% of them sponsored and funded by leftist groups from outside the state. They pay $20/hr+ to people to collect signatures. We have a LOT of work to do.
Most people distrust elections in Oregon Donna, an all vote by mail state. Precinct voting fostered a touch of community, even if we only vote every couple years. I would love to have that back.
In Oregon, where I live, the election officials can search for voters that have moved or are deceased but are still on the votor rolls. They then know how many fake mail-in votes are available to send out voted for the candidate "they" want to win. No one is knows it's happening.
Wow, didn't realize OR was ALL mail in?! I wouldn't trust that either. Our mail service, which used to be very good in my area has gone downhill markedly the past couple of years. MO has 6 weeks of in-person early voting with an excuse, 2 weeks of no excuse in person early voting, Have to have a photo ID. Mail in ballots if requested, have to be notarized. We still have issues but did get a no ballot harvesting and no zuckerbucks bill passed last year. I work as an election judge and vast majority of ballots in my area are cast on election day, in person. 10.9% mail in last November. Our SOS finally ditched ERIC after years of pressure, since he is running for governor, guess he thought it was a campaign issue, although a group who provided evidence that voter rolls were corrupt was blown off.
Donna, yes, all mail in voting since 1998. Oregon has not had a Republican governor since. Coincidence? Maybe. But probably not.
There is no chain of custody of your ballot once you drop it in the mail. There is no way of knowing if your ballot was counted, all you will receive (if requested) is confirmation that your ballot envelope was scanned. In the 2022 mid-term, 'special' recycle boxes were set up on college campuses for duplicate ballots that were sent out. In one whistle blower complaint there was a notice put out requesting workers to help fill out extra ballots (see battleground oregon.org for federal court case updates). Yes, Oregon elections are less than honest irregardless of what the recently resigned SoS claims. (That's a dirty story for another time). Oregonians have no confidence in their elections.
Wow that is so corrupt! Got curious and looked it up https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/oregon/ Oregon is not all that different from MO https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/missouri/ where the population centers go blue but the rural counties are red. I am in blue Jackson, and they are exporting their rot as high taxes and crime are leading D's to flee to surrounding counties. 2 of them, Platte and Clay to the north, Trump barely eked a win in 2020. R margin shrinks with every election. And even Jackson is really 2 counties - the KC part is deep blue and had their own (corrupt) election board, while the rest of the county - the suburbs went for Trump (although only 50.5%, while KC was 20%). But can't overcome that the population centers cancel out the rural/suburb/exurb vote. I suppose part of OR's problem is the CA refugees. MO was considered a bellwether state until 2012, state had picked the winner in every election for something like 50 years. But went for Romney in 2012 and Trump won handily in 2016 and 2020. A lot of the rural counties were 'Truman Democrats' who had the common sense to see that the D party had left them. S. MO is called the 'bible belt' and they vote their values, many of those counties went 80%+ for Trump. My hubby is a sales rep and travels the state. Says a lot of places people have never taken down their Trump signs/banners/flags.