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Dr Tara Slatton's avatar

The problem is once they are in the country there is a limited ability for anyone to throw them out because the Biden administration refuses to. If you can’t kick them out of the country then send them to those advocating for these policies is the next best option. It seems to be working as the urban poor of Chicago are threatening riots over the issue and even the insane liberals in charge of New York are being forced to recognize the issue. Ideally keep them out and if you fail to do so throw them out. But if that’s not an option it’s not fair to expect the border states to bear the burdens created by liberals in areas that think they are safe from invasion.

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Debbie Wagner's avatar

🎯 Exactly the point. If all else fails, share the misery. Until the authors, enforcers and enablers of these hideous policies change their tune, why should they be immune from the consequences? Indeed, it’s the only thing that WILL bring change.

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Dawn's avatar

Its not "fair" for any state in the union to bear this unreasonable burden of so many illegals pouring into the country. But this isn't going to change anytime soon. The point here is that the illegals transported to the interior of the country, no matter where they land are just disappearing to who knows where. Polite or not they don't belong here in this fashion. I don't have the ultimate solution but I sure don't like their idea of transporting them to wherever and just letting them loose.

This tit for tat notion is turning deadly for Americans and NOT solving anything. It just kicks the invaders on down the road.

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

Naomi Wolf wrote about this the other day, about Floyd Bennett Field in NY

Brian was also confronted by security, and then followed, earlier this year, when he went to document a facility in Brooklyn, Floyd Bennett Field, an area with over 1000 flat acres of land, where illegal immigrants are being housed in military-style facilities. Illegal immigrants are being housed at Chicago’s O’Hare airport, a sensitive strategic location for a possible attack on America, if there ever was one. Illegal immigrants, disproportionately fighting-age men, are being housed for months in hotels in midtown Manhattan, all basic expenses paid and with cleaning services.

As they say, wake up and smell the coffee. This is not a domestic policy issue any longer — ie, what are these illegal immigrants getting that your legal immigrant parents or grandparents, your enslaved great-grandparents, did not get?"

https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/what-a-war-requires

Still, and this is why I understand people whose cognitive dissonance requires that they think me a rabbit hole digger conspiracy theorist, I thought well maybe its just replacement not an invasion, minimizing it as it is so frightening, then this from Zero Hedge this morning:

Drone Video Reveals Massive NYC Migrant Tent City, Kept Under Wraps By Democrats & Media

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/drone-video-unveils-massive-nyc-migrant-tent-city-kept-under-wraps-democrats-media

If Trudeau and Hillary and the CIA are orchestrating what's happening in Haiti, maybe it is a purposeful attack on Florida, which is, in many places a bastion of old school conservatism,and a Grand Jury investigating the shots and pandemic response, with the wonderful Florida surgeon general. I oscillate between denial and paranoia lol, though somewhere in there are clues to what is actually happening.

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Dr Tara Slatton's avatar

You are advocating that we sacrifice the border areas to protect the rest of the country. Thats really shitty. Because those people are here and the border states cannot keep the incarcerated or legally deal with them. They are going to be loose in this country no matter what. Basically you are saying that Americans getting killed in the interior of America matter more than Americans getting killed in the border states.

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Dawn's avatar

If you are replying to me then you are putting words in my mouth Dr Tara. I said no such thing. Stop trying to pick fights. It makes you look stupid.

The problem is global. It certainly isn't limited to the USA.

This whole thing with the invaders isn't fair to any legitimate American citizen no matter what state they live in. I don't have the answers but I do realize that no matter who is in the WH this country is screwed.

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Dr Tara Slatton's avatar

I’m not putting words in your mouth, I’m pointing out what has been and would continue to happen. We can talk all day about what should be but it doesn’t really matter what should be, what matters is what is. There are illegals streaming into this country and the federal government refuses to do anything about it and they have done everything possible to limit the ability of the states to do anything about it. These people are coming in and the states have very little power to stop them or to control them in anyway. Most of the illegals will stay fairly close to where they are coming across the border which means those states and communities will be the ones dealing with all the issues. That allows people in the rest of the states to continue ignoring the problem because they aren’t feeling the pain. Do you think the people of inner city Chicago care about illegals ruining Texas? No they don’t, they have bigger problems. But now that there are illegals in Chicago taking their resources, suddenly it’s not only a problem but one they are willing to use violence to address. It’s not fair to anybody that the border is unsecured but life isn’t fair and we all have to make do addressing what is. It’s not right to make border states deal with this, the only hope for a solution is to make this everyone’s problem which might build the political will necessary to change things.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

NIMBY - not in my backyard!

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Dawn's avatar

I agree with everything you said here.

This is a huge country and unless the willingness to actually do something about these problems spreads locally, everywhere, nothing will change. I completely understand that life isn't fair and it really sucks that there are some power hungry parasites out there who want to rule it all. One day this will bite those parasites right in their hindparts.

My own state has lots of illegals here because of all the ag related business. Smithfield is here for one. We feel the pain but not like the border states. This is basically an undeclared war waged by the feds on the American people and way of life. There are too many on the gov't teat who just don't care. You are most likely correct in that it will take violence to accomplish anything. I know personally I am ready to defend my home and community in whatever means necessary. Most of our elected officials are not helping actual Americans.

Have you seem the awful law that Kristi Noem just passed?

https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/4510/What-Do-Justin-Trudeau-And-Kristi-Noem-Have-In-Common-They-Both-Want-To-Put-You-In-Jail-For-Having-Unpopular-Opinions.aspx

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RU's avatar

Yep. It's a good photo and PR opportunity for some governors, is all. Like "oversight committees," it does nothing but provide the illusion that someone is doing something about it. Instead of shipping them out or disappearing them by other means, they send them into the country, where they are released and going about doing the damage they were sent here to do. Another example of people losing and thinking they're winning b/c they "owned the libs." Meanwhile, the libs are getting exactly what they want: more illegals dispersed across America.

Sadly, if we had any leaders with any actual spine, none of this would have happened in the first place. It's been going on for years now and just recently we have a handful of (R) politicians claiming to want to do something about it. Where were they the last 3 years?

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

What kind of war says victims are not allowed to defend themselves? If armed invaders storming Miami Beach is a type of unrestricted warfare, pill boxes on the Florida coast are a justifiable tactic of unrestricted self-defense.

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