I’m always told that I have high cholesterol (which honestly, is barely above the range... that keeps getting adjusted downward), but I keep going back to the thought that almost all cells in your body make cholesterol, it’s your body’s method of repair when something is damaged. Your body is not going to try to kill itself with excess c…
I’m always told that I have high cholesterol (which honestly, is barely above the range... that keeps getting adjusted downward), but I keep going back to the thought that almost all cells in your body make cholesterol, it’s your body’s method of repair when something is damaged. Your body is not going to try to kill itself with excess cholesterol, so the question is.... what’s causing my body to think it has a lot to repair? Or more importantly... medicine just came up with the ‘normal’ range for cholesterol, how do they know this number isn’t my normal? I haven’t gotten any good answers yet, so I tell them I’m taking the conservative, non-pharma route.
Also the range of “high- low” on any of our lab results is recalculated ever so often (we were told by our lab tech “1-3 years or when they ‘need to’ so the highs may be your normal”) so your results will change! “‘They’ average the lab results country wide for a number and create a new range!! What the Heck?!!
I was fat. My cholesterol was at 207. Doc wanted to prescribe statins. I said no...been trying to put me on them for years. So, I started eating clean, no processed. I lost 65 lbs. Went back and my cholesterol was 350, but the 'good' numbers went way up as well. So, go figure. I have a wellness appt next month and we will see if I can get away with her not sticking me this year. She knows how I feel about all of it. My answer to all the tests she asks if I want is NONONO. I only eat God stuff mostly and don't eat out or buy crap. My body produces cholesterol and I am fearfully and wonderfully made and I feel better than I have in all my life and I am 60. My mom is 96.
I didn’t know this until I lost a lot of weight and researched it - but when you lose weight (not quickly but 65lbs is significant) it forces all that cholesterol into your bloodstream. It can take about 6 months AFTER you have stabilized your weight to see your cholesterol numbers stabilize as well so…just an encouragement!
Keep it up. We stopped wellness appointments with all allopathic doctors. I do them with our biological dentist, and when I see our holistic Dr. for blood tests (had hyperthyroidsim, and taking testosterone, so regular blood tests to make sure results stay where they should). I used to do regular physicals, but no more. 71.
Valerie-your liver makes approximately 85% of the cholesterol. Your doctor needs to order a Cardiac IQ R test. This fractionates your cholesterol panel and lets you know your particles sizes of your LDL. Can also reveal your LDL pattern, lipoprotein little a, lipoprotein B and E which give you a much more accurate picture of your health related risk. I got mine done through Quest and my insurance covered it.
Yes, I am not believing what they are selling at all. Ever. Losing this weight and only eating clean and seeing my cholesterol number increase just shows what a scam it all is. If eating only what God put on this earth for me to eat causes my numbers to go sky high, then so be it. It is called a doctor's "practice" for a reason.
Oh I’ve had all of it, cardiac IQ, calcium plaque score (zero), and heart ultrasound (perfect). Literally the only problem is high LDL-C which is a concern but I’m still taking a conservative approach when it comes to pharma solutions.
Sugar seems to be the big issue (and Carbs). I was in a cardiac class and they actually said high blood sugar pits the arteries and that cholesterol is used like a band-aid to cover those pitted areas.
Sugar is one of many things that yes, damages the endothelium. And yes, cholesterol is part of the repair process. Under normal conditions the cholesterol repair gradually is degraded and a smooth endothelial surface is once again present. However, when there is ongoing damage via sugar or other inflammation, then the bandaids accumulate, resulting in clots.
Cholesterol is akin to the fire truck that shows up at the scene of a fire. It’s the response to a problem, not the cause.
They keep changing the BP ranges, too. As you get older you actually need more cholesterol because it is essential to brain health, ie preventing things like Alzheimer's. I wonder how much and how long Alzheimer's patients have taken cholesterol pills? Maybe someone should do that study?
And are put on a low-fat diet instead of a low carb diet. I watched a video on Epoch that talked about a clinic where dementia patients (Type 3 diabetes) are put on a no carb diet and 2 weeks later they are released without dementia. I believe the interview was with a man who wrote "Lies I Taught in Medical School."
The Japanese did a study in the elderly that showed: the higher the cholesterol, the lower the death rate. I keep telling my son, they want us dead. It’s become my mantra.
You answered your own question. Our holistic Dr confirmed they typically just pull these ranges out of their you know where. And they are always too low for what you need ie. D, cholesterol, C, etc. No money in anything without a patent.
Since my heart scans and calcium plaque scores show no issues, I’m not taking anything. It could change, but I’m comfortable to wait and see for now. But I also have all the lifestyle factors down (healthy weight, healthy diet, exercise, etc) and zero family history of heart issues. So it’s a good bet for me, but it’s highly individual. I agree with the person who said to do your research for yourself, because cardiac disease is a huge problem. I would never want to tell anyone to do what I’m doing just because it seems like a good idea to me.
Avocado and or olive oil everyday can help but you have to do your own research and come to your own conclusions. These good fats will help bring down "bad" fats. In Israel, we were told while we were there, the nomadic people drink olive oil everyday.
I have a theory that sunshine is even more important to our health than we think, and lack of it may be the cause of many of our allergy, autoimmune, etc issues. I think that the sun probably starts many different processes in our body, not only our circadian rhythm, but other hormone cascades. Human beings lived in the sun and elements and were hardly inside at all until a few hundred years ago. It can’t be possible that living inside, in fake light and fake temperatures, allows us to thrive.
I think you are so right. When I get a daily dose of sunshine, about an hour or more, I feel much better. I do not use sunscreen. I think " why would God put something in the sky that would kill us?" Now, man on the other hand, with sunscreen and all the crap in it? Not buying it. If I feel I have been in the sun too long, I put on a shirt. Plus, tan fat looks better than white fat.
I have a doctor friend (retired)who has become totally disillusioned with the medical industry since Covid. He did a deep dive into cholesterol and what matters is WHAT is high and what is low. He has a crazy high LDL (whichever the bad one is) but everything else including his triglycerides is low/in range. That is actually ok for him & his cardiologist finally agreed. He is anti-statin use as well. But it’s highly individualized based on how your body is wired. He has no CVD at all - confirmed with a scope.
I’m always told that I have high cholesterol (which honestly, is barely above the range... that keeps getting adjusted downward), but I keep going back to the thought that almost all cells in your body make cholesterol, it’s your body’s method of repair when something is damaged. Your body is not going to try to kill itself with excess cholesterol, so the question is.... what’s causing my body to think it has a lot to repair? Or more importantly... medicine just came up with the ‘normal’ range for cholesterol, how do they know this number isn’t my normal? I haven’t gotten any good answers yet, so I tell them I’m taking the conservative, non-pharma route.
Meanwhile, not a peep about canola oil and other oils that cause inflammation.
And like everything else, I believe the "correct level" is highly individualized.
Also the range of “high- low” on any of our lab results is recalculated ever so often (we were told by our lab tech “1-3 years or when they ‘need to’ so the highs may be your normal”) so your results will change! “‘They’ average the lab results country wide for a number and create a new range!! What the Heck?!!
100%
That is exactly correct. The human body makes the cholesterol. Very little comes from diet.
I was fat. My cholesterol was at 207. Doc wanted to prescribe statins. I said no...been trying to put me on them for years. So, I started eating clean, no processed. I lost 65 lbs. Went back and my cholesterol was 350, but the 'good' numbers went way up as well. So, go figure. I have a wellness appt next month and we will see if I can get away with her not sticking me this year. She knows how I feel about all of it. My answer to all the tests she asks if I want is NONONO. I only eat God stuff mostly and don't eat out or buy crap. My body produces cholesterol and I am fearfully and wonderfully made and I feel better than I have in all my life and I am 60. My mom is 96.
I didn’t know this until I lost a lot of weight and researched it - but when you lose weight (not quickly but 65lbs is significant) it forces all that cholesterol into your bloodstream. It can take about 6 months AFTER you have stabilized your weight to see your cholesterol numbers stabilize as well so…just an encouragement!
Thank you!
I also came across this study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34511127/
That shows the higher cholesterol levels the elderly had, the longer they were likely to live!
This study seemed to indicate lower LDL Cholesterol levels with higher all case Mortality.
Yep that’s the point. Low cholesterol shortens your life!
Well done! 👏🏼👏🏼
Keep it up. We stopped wellness appointments with all allopathic doctors. I do them with our biological dentist, and when I see our holistic Dr. for blood tests (had hyperthyroidsim, and taking testosterone, so regular blood tests to make sure results stay where they should). I used to do regular physicals, but no more. 71.
I think, if we are in tune with our bodies and doing the right thing, it will tell us what we need to know. Thanks for the encouragement!
It sure worked for us. Cured cancer (her)and hyperthyroidism (me) completely holistically. You can do it.
Valerie-your liver makes approximately 85% of the cholesterol. Your doctor needs to order a Cardiac IQ R test. This fractionates your cholesterol panel and lets you know your particles sizes of your LDL. Can also reveal your LDL pattern, lipoprotein little a, lipoprotein B and E which give you a much more accurate picture of your health related risk. I got mine done through Quest and my insurance covered it.
Dr Malcolm Kendrick says the problem is not LDL at all but inflammation. Doesn’t matter the size of the LDL.
My spouse has spent hundreds of hrs researching this.
You could not be more right. Inflammation is the root cause of all disease and illnesses.
And thank you for the info! If I hadn’t done all of it already, it would be extremely valuable.
Yes, I am not believing what they are selling at all. Ever. Losing this weight and only eating clean and seeing my cholesterol number increase just shows what a scam it all is. If eating only what God put on this earth for me to eat causes my numbers to go sky high, then so be it. It is called a doctor's "practice" for a reason.
Oh I’ve had all of it, cardiac IQ, calcium plaque score (zero), and heart ultrasound (perfect). Literally the only problem is high LDL-C which is a concern but I’m still taking a conservative approach when it comes to pharma solutions.
Look up Malcolm Kendrick’s book The Clot Thickens, if you want reassurance re LDL. Absolutely no reason for concern.
Sugar seems to be the big issue (and Carbs). I was in a cardiac class and they actually said high blood sugar pits the arteries and that cholesterol is used like a band-aid to cover those pitted areas.
Sugar is one of many things that yes, damages the endothelium. And yes, cholesterol is part of the repair process. Under normal conditions the cholesterol repair gradually is degraded and a smooth endothelial surface is once again present. However, when there is ongoing damage via sugar or other inflammation, then the bandaids accumulate, resulting in clots.
Cholesterol is akin to the fire truck that shows up at the scene of a fire. It’s the response to a problem, not the cause.
Exactly. Thanks for the additional explanation and analogy.
Your welcome. The analogy is not original with me.
And calcium scans are cheap. Cash patients $50 at least in my area. Although I wouldn't do one every year as that's a lot of radiation.
Orthomolecular medicine has some natural things you can do to lower cholesterol.
a friend of mine, had the above test, Medicare doesn't pay for it. :-( surprise.
They keep changing the BP ranges, too. As you get older you actually need more cholesterol because it is essential to brain health, ie preventing things like Alzheimer's. I wonder how much and how long Alzheimer's patients have taken cholesterol pills? Maybe someone should do that study?
And are put on a low-fat diet instead of a low carb diet. I watched a video on Epoch that talked about a clinic where dementia patients (Type 3 diabetes) are put on a no carb diet and 2 weeks later they are released without dementia. I believe the interview was with a man who wrote "Lies I Taught in Medical School."
The Japanese did a study in the elderly that showed: the higher the cholesterol, the lower the death rate. I keep telling my son, they want us dead. It’s become my mantra.
Wow...that makes me feel better!
I saw that too!
Yes, yes they most certainly do want us dead.
The brain needs cholesterol- statins can & does contribute to dementia.
Labs recalculate normal ranges every 100,000 tests so the goal post keeps moving.
You answered your own question. Our holistic Dr confirmed they typically just pull these ranges out of their you know where. And they are always too low for what you need ie. D, cholesterol, C, etc. No money in anything without a patent.
When my mom changed her diet to cut out eggs, her cholesterol went up. You body has a thermostat for cholesterol.
What do you take I I may ask. I’m on a statin and went off and now was convinced to go back on after a TIA.
Since my heart scans and calcium plaque scores show no issues, I’m not taking anything. It could change, but I’m comfortable to wait and see for now. But I also have all the lifestyle factors down (healthy weight, healthy diet, exercise, etc) and zero family history of heart issues. So it’s a good bet for me, but it’s highly individual. I agree with the person who said to do your research for yourself, because cardiac disease is a huge problem. I would never want to tell anyone to do what I’m doing just because it seems like a good idea to me.
Avocado and or olive oil everyday can help but you have to do your own research and come to your own conclusions. These good fats will help bring down "bad" fats. In Israel, we were told while we were there, the nomadic people drink olive oil everyday.
Yes, I quit all L-6 oils as well. And am very picky about my EVOO. And plenty of sunshine without sunscreen.
Sunshine is so important too. Great reminders. And never buy oil in plastic.
Interesting
Of course, olives and olive oil are plentiful there.
I have a theory that sunshine is even more important to our health than we think, and lack of it may be the cause of many of our allergy, autoimmune, etc issues. I think that the sun probably starts many different processes in our body, not only our circadian rhythm, but other hormone cascades. Human beings lived in the sun and elements and were hardly inside at all until a few hundred years ago. It can’t be possible that living inside, in fake light and fake temperatures, allows us to thrive.
I think you are so right. When I get a daily dose of sunshine, about an hour or more, I feel much better. I do not use sunscreen. I think " why would God put something in the sky that would kill us?" Now, man on the other hand, with sunscreen and all the crap in it? Not buying it. If I feel I have been in the sun too long, I put on a shirt. Plus, tan fat looks better than white fat.
I have a doctor friend (retired)who has become totally disillusioned with the medical industry since Covid. He did a deep dive into cholesterol and what matters is WHAT is high and what is low. He has a crazy high LDL (whichever the bad one is) but everything else including his triglycerides is low/in range. That is actually ok for him & his cardiologist finally agreed. He is anti-statin use as well. But it’s highly individualized based on how your body is wired. He has no CVD at all - confirmed with a scope.
This is exactly where I am.