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Jen's avatar

I was just reading about the Milgram experiments yet again in the context of this Covid mess and how it was the gov't that actually paid for those studies so they could study human behavior and see how many of us would comply. I remember thinking in my freshman college psych class if I would be one of the 30% of people who stood up and walked out. Now thanks to Covid I know I am. But the part I really wasn't prepared for was how incredibly disgusted I would be with the other 70%. I never thought I would have to see that nasty side of humanity. I guess it was very naive of me, huh?

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AM's avatar

I used to think the "narrow gate" was more of a metaphor in the Bible. No it's literal. And it's painful. Humans are herd creatures and we find it tough to go against the crowd. But Jesus knew what it meant to be outcast, to be shunned. He came to show us. I've never thought I was strong enough. But I don't need to be, that's the true gift.

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Jen's avatar

You are so right...I started attending church regularly again about 6 months ago and it's been the one thing I think is really helping me. It helps me to see that we need not despair, we have our heavenly father and He is with us. This is too big for us, but not for Him.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Amen Jen! Praise God. I have been dry for the Lord a long time (like 8 years) and this too has been a gift to me. Reading my bible near daily now. Our home is in heaven not this world!

Also for any fearing global warming- scripture says he will NEVER flood the earth again. This is the promise of the rainbow. But he WILL burn the world up in the very very end after his reign here. ❤️

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David A's avatar

"Some say the world will end in fire,

Some say in ice.

From what I’ve tasted of desire

I hold with those who favor fire.

But if it had to perish twice,

Ice would suffice"

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AM's avatar

Amen.

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daverkb's avatar

Me too! And the surprise of my life how literal some of these things are! And we see it now ... starkly, vividly. Here's another. "The wages of sin are death." And in a round about way, it full circles back to the 'the was is straight and narrow.'

And fudge it a little here and there, and eventually ... fudge all over the face!

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AM's avatar

Yes. Wow. So so true.

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Dick's avatar

Pilgrims Progress

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Freebird's avatar

AM, sometimes I read a comment that makes me really wish I could hug the writer…yours is like that. I can’t express how much I love what you said! ❤️

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AM's avatar

Wow, thank you Freebird! This touches my heart.

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M VARR's avatar

Milgram showed us how people will harm people if pressured by authority

Asch showed us that people will ignore their own senses and perceptions when pressured by peer group

These experiments from Stanford were rolled out nationwide during Covid and

demonstrated us how easily humans can be egged into abuse of power.

It's interesting that the Blue Strongholds were the biggest abusers and authoritarians.

I don't have digust or anger for them...we all take different roads to truth...many get detoured and just take longer to get there.

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AM's avatar

IMHO, this was a major reason behind the push to vaccinate as many people as possible. It was a massive experiment in confirmation bias and the power of social pressure. The more people who were vaccinated, the less people there were to care about the mandates (because people are self interested and aren't going to fight other people's battles for the most part). It had the added benefit of further ostracizing those who didn't go along, to the point that more people caved (thus reinforcing the narrative). And finally it gives great cover to the "long covid" and "sudden death" narratives. They can always blame covid rather than the vaccines. This blame is possible because there's not a huge unvaccinated control group (though I am N=1 ha ha).

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Roger Beal's avatar

N = 1. Think I might commission myself a tee with that in red boldface type.

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AM's avatar

Love this idea and I’d buy one! 😍

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AM's avatar

I actually agree with you that the reported numbers don’t match reality. Nevertheless it’s enough to provide cover to the powers-that-be because it probably is a majority (anything over 50%).

One of my biggest hints that the numbers are ‘juiced’ is that the cruise lines have all mostly dropped their vax requirements (notwithstanding a couple regions who still have them). The cruise lines can’t afford to give up 40% of the population in the US who are unvaxed or partially vaxed). I get flyers almost every day begging me to book a cruise.

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G.Gently's avatar

AM, but there is an enormous worldwide vaccine control group of the unvaccinated. Please feel free to join. 🌎https://www.vaxcontrolgroup.com/

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Freebird's avatar

G Gently, I’m not buying into that control group. With so much conversation about not trusting people and things…this site sends up red flags for me. It looks like a government sponsored tool for identifying the unvaxed. It shows 35% for the US and 65% for the UK…seriously? NOT joining on that.

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For anyone else who is interested there is information about the origin of the group. There are hundreds of thousands of participants. I'm a retired Canadian RN of 35 years and I've been a member since Oct. 2021. Canadians must fight our totalitarian government and refuse mandates. I got this info while at a Canadian protest. I have an ID that states I must not be vaccinated and I fill out out a short health record every month. Data is needed from the unvaccinated because people we care about who are vaccinated are getting sick. The government knows I'm not vaccinated according to my health records. Faith over fear. Honk Honk.

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M VARR's avatar

Nudge is too kind.

An abusive gaslighting psychic assault against humanity is how I would describe it.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Read about the "NUDGE" Theory. It's another way of psychological manipulation. Making you change your behavior by making you think it's your own idea.

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David A's avatar

They have the funding to commit to many disparate kinds of attacks.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Nudge? How about a kick in the family jewels.

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

Also the Stanford Prison experiment https://www.verywellmind.com/the-stanford-prison-experiment-2794995

Knowing about these, which used to be Cold War 101 requirements in the social sciences---my friend was at University of Detroit designing spin offs of this for an M.A.---can make people recognize the pattern when it hits. They teach DEI now in the social sciences, so no one has the pattern. Chinese immigrants in Sunnyvale, near Apple and Google and Facebook in Silicon Valley, stood up against school DEI because they'd been there and done that.

A lot of creepy stuff coming out of Stanford for decades. FTX, The Virality Project just outed by Dr. Meryl Nass https://merylnass.substack.com/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=substack_profile

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David A's avatar

Yep...

Milgram showed us how people will harm people if pressured by authority

ASCH showed us that people will ignore their own senses and perceptions when pressured by peer group

STANFORD showed us how easily humans can be egged into abuse of power”

all in the above post... https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/times-and-curses-friday-march-10/comment/13477431

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Lisa Ca's avatar

This is so so so sad to me. After the holocaust shocking so many complied.

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David A's avatar

Darkness kind of creeps in and I think it is both overt and subtle. In this other post on my "not a news feed" site, I examine the question, "Does power corrupt? " The answer I found may surprise you as it did me.

https://open.substack.com/pub/anderdaa7/p/does-absolute-power-corrupt?r=slvym&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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Freebird's avatar

Jen, the 30% vs 70% just makes me think…There but for the Grace of God, go I.

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