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Sunnydaze's avatar

I read that last week. It really gave me pause. Some I knew, but to put it all together makes him look way worse. I’ve got one eye open with him especially since SB 222 is dead and his less than stellar bill took front and center stage. Huge eye opener even though Jeff’s take on it helped even out my expectations.

Just like Trump and being a vax pusher has my eyes wide open.

Honestly, if we think one man will save us we will be severely disappointed. Not one man is perfect with a spotless record. They all fall short. The sooner we figure that out the better.

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Smatse's avatar

No one will save us. We must all take action and save ourselves.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

My Lord and Savior has already saved me. I have no capacity to save myself....

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Tracy's avatar

YES!!! Why even waste time and breath talking about any presidential candidates. They don't run the country. The hidden evil ones do. Can we all not see that yet!

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Annie's avatar

For me it's the swamp creatures like lying Paul Ryan who endorse him that sends up red flags for me. It's hard to be with that bunch and not get tainted.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And the Bush brothers and Karl Rove. I’m sure that DeSantis is wealthier than most of us could ever dream of being, but he’s peewee league in the world of TPTB. He can not afford independence. He is being promoted with a campaign of deceptive acts and speech.

The large print sounds so good. Check out the small print.

George W. Bush. I remember that SOB very well.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Me too! I voted for him twice and thought the media and the left were always unfairly attacking him not knowing he was one of “them” until he handed the Oval Office to the Clinton crime family and they were suddenly best buddies.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

That was The GHWBush crime family syndicate handing it to the WJClinton crime family syndicate, suddenly best buddies. Who handed it back to the GWBush crime family syndicate, suddenly best buddies. Who handed it to the BHObama crime family syndicate, suddenly best buddies. Who tried to hand it to back to either the HRClinton or JEBush crime family syndicates as best buds...but the DJTrump MAGA Train chugged over both of them! For some strange reason, not suddenly best buddies with his predecessors?

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Julie Ann B's avatar

You nailed it!

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Notyours's avatar

"You live with apes, man, it's hard to be clean"

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Annie's avatar

Agree. Lay down with dogs you can get fleas.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Annie, my concern is Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush and Ronna McDaniel! All pompous RINOS who think they’re still relevant!

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Notyours's avatar

Yup. I can't say I'm really a Marilyn Manson fan although nothing against him. I bought the song "Beautiful People" for my running playlist as it's a fast tempo song good for fartleks. But damned if the more I hear it the more it resonates these days.

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Jan's avatar

I judge a person by their enemies, but there’s a lot of strange overlapping of connections, some are real and some are purposeful. Just remember things aren’t always what you think you see.

This makes it hard to draw lines. I do know for a fact that some of these people will make connections to ruin people for optics etc. I remember when democrat Governor O’Malley showed up at a Republican delegates fund raiser to make the delegate look bad. He had him pose for a picture shaking his hand not invited. So it goes on social media! Done just like that. As a delegate do you say no thank you Governor and you weren’t invited? This is one example, but I’m sure it happens plenty. The left, establishment Rino is bold enough to play dirty down to the smallest ends to justify. Nothing is too petty or for no reason. They always have a motive. It’s hard to be one step ahead of how they think, it’s like trying to know an addicts next step. Impossible to predict sometimes the unthinkable can be what’s happening. It may be that your gut is right. That’s hard for good hearted people to wrap their heads around.

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Annie's avatar

Yes. Theater and psyops. One thing for sure is Paul Ryan is not to be trusted.

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Andrea Leshok's avatar

Ugh, used to love Paul Ryan when he represented the district next to mine in WI. My how times (and people) have changed!

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LMWC's avatar

It is why I refuse to get involved in the 2024 elections at this point. For those who wish to really remember, Trump did volumes of good against almost constant obstruction by the Dems and sabotage in his own party. He went against controlled bureaucracies, I am sure he had no idea how entrenched they were. But too many on here only remember the false pandemic performance. Do you really think Trump knew what Fauci and Birx were about? The world press screamed pandemic, morning, noon, and night. Looking back I would have been better off if I had turned off, not only the propaganda press, but also all social media. I do not know who should run for the GOP in 2024, and I am not sure it matters, but I do know that Trump is still immensely popular in many parts of the country, hence the fixing of so many state elections in 2022.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

Trump knew what Fauci and Birx were about. He didn't fire them because Jared told him it would cause political blowback. And Trump would have had to sit through just one meeting of the COVID task force to learn they were useless and that Pence was undermining him.

The biggest issue in his presidency, and Trump bungled it badly.

That being said, if he is the Republican nominee, I will likely vote for him even though he has no chance against those who count the votes.

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LMWC's avatar

I see and you were in the room when Jared pushed all this through his father in law? Again, you have short memories. DJT does not stand a chance but neither does any Republican running. The 2020 election was stolen, never resolved, and fixed in several swing states to assure never having free National elections again. It is why I refuse to play the political game of who will save us.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

I was not, but others were and this is well documented. I too believe the 2024 election results are already known to those who will decide.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I think that explanation is a little wobbly and I’m not buying that the Governor couldn’t have gotten SB 222 passed.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I agree. It’s all smoke and mirrors. There’s no reason for killing SB 222 and going with his bill. Except they get to keep control of the people. More of the same rebranded and new packaging to fool the masses who refuse to wake up.

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rolandttg's avatar

So true. It is up to the people. Most people I have followed for years predict a false savior who will lead us willing out of the frying pan and into the fire. in addition to this covid history, Desantis said there was absolutely no 2020 election fraud in Florida. Like Kissinger, Amy Comey Barret, Kavenaugh, and many many other prominent people, he is a member of the Pilgrim's Society. In addition, he is a member of Yale's secret society St. Elmo's Hall, founded specifically in 1889 to form a close relationship with the Knight's of Malta. Their emblem is a viking ship with a goat above it. Wikepedia wiped his membership a few years ago. His sister worked in the audit division of KP&G. She died very mysteriously in 2015 while in London auditing the most powerful bank in the world no one has heard of , Coutts Bank. Been around since the 1600's; it is the bank of the Royal family. Essentially no information available on his sister's death. America has never not been under the control of Britain. Gabriel and McKibben have put out some very revealing podcasts in the past. Here is the one on Desantis revealed. Decide for Yourself.

https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2022/07/gabriel-and-mckibben-expose-gov-desantis-secret-ties-to-skull-and-bones-the-pilgrims-society-and-jesuit-knights-of-malta-3776128.html

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daverkb's avatar

Thanks and well said! We are so down the hole leading to the Pit of National Damnation that we must necessarily reach for the good with benefit on balance. And also, never underestimate the stupidity of the electorate as a circumscribing of how far the envelope can be pushed as to any one thing in time. Covid is a prime case for study. It was impossible to overcome the stampede of fear and panic in the heat of the moment. Fortunately, a few brave men and women kept speaking out truth on balance. And we must remember, a lot of political people were plain out fooled. Some though, did figure it out.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

for all fall short of the glory of God!

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Bingham22's avatar

At this point it is a choice between wicked men, and evil men. All are bad choices…but the worst of them intend nothing less than the destruction of this Nation…and humanity itself. They aren’t just evil, they are clinically insane.

I will take wicked and leave it up to God to judge them.

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