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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Do you remember when they told us we'd only pay for the I-70 turnpike toll roads coming out of KC for 10 years?

Thats why people should never vote for new taxes that have an alleged sunset. Because when you vote for it, it always becomes permanent.

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Fred's avatar

Coronado Bay Bridge in San Diego is a prime example. Took lawsuits to make the tolls finally end after the bridge was paid off.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yup. I'm from San Diego, but spent 3 years in KC during grade school.

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Dena's avatar

True - the senate voted the 1913 Revenue Act ( income tax) into law. All the Dems , except 1 voting for if, & all but 1 R voting against. Was supposed to be temporary.

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Bgagnon's avatar

Same story with all the bridges in San Francisco Bay Area and tolls just keep going up!

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

Really?

I did NOT know that!

Dems for taxes, Repubs against-- even a 100 yrs ago.

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Dena's avatar

It’s in their dna!

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

for about 25% of the population, I believe this is indubiably correct!

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Tomaso's avatar

Same thing in the peoples republic of Illinois.

Supposed to end when tollways were paid off.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

The Dan Ryan etc.

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Donna in MO's avatar

I thought that was the case, seem to remember an outcry about that - I live in MO but halfway follow KS issues. I will say that a low population state like KS it makes more sense to tax the drivers who use that road vs piling on taxes for the people who live there and in some cases never even drive on it. But that assumes KDOT uses the money wisely?? I will say we took the 1-70 toll roads to CO for an annual ski vacation for 20+ years and the roads are in good shape unlike the pothole-ridden always under construction roads in states like IL.

MO floated a toll for adding a lane to I-70 across the state about 7-8 years ago and that went over like a lead balloon. But we got a pile of covid money and that is now what is funding the expansion, so no toll roads in MO.

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daverkb's avatar

Well, it's not just generating revenue for the sake of revenue, and incidentally ... road repair. It's about people control, and the fake agendas like climate and carbon which are also about control of every aspect of human action.

So ... DOGE revelations, USAID for example and much more. There's plenty of money for road, vital infrastructure IF IT WERE GRIFTED, outright stolen away.

And so, 'they' are outright playing us left and right. And I hope it ends now.

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Irunthis1's avatar

Shit I had no idea you were a Kansas (or maybe MO?) resident too! No wonder we get along so famously. (or at least agree with one another a lot). My county did get rid of our section of the I-70 toll--it now doesn't start until I think Douglas County whereas it used to start in Leavenworth.

I'm keeping a stank eye on whatever they think they are going to shove down our throats about the "Chiefs" and us poor citizens having to pay for any of it---which I want ZERO part of.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yup. I'm from San Diego, but spent 3 years in KC during grade school.

And i went to grad school at Mizzou

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Irunthis1's avatar

That's funny. My cousin (one of hundreds but this one and I grew up together pretty much so like a brother) is now in San Diego where he ended up after the Navy. Small world.

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Bgagnon's avatar

Well Howdy Ryan! I’m from Highland in the Inland Empire and have spent lots of time in SD … love it! My granddaughter is graduating from UCSD this June. 😄

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

My wife graduated from UCSD!

She grew up in Murietta. I grew up in point Loma

What a small world.

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Donna in MO's avatar

STAR bonds.....for a stadium they will play a dozen games a year in a good year and maybe a few concerts. Done with this welfare scheme - Royals and Chiefs can move for all I care! Get woke, go broke.

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NanaW's avatar

A good reminder! The sun never sets on the grifter empire.

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Bgagnon's avatar

Sunset, temporary, stop, end and the like are not words in the govt vocabulary - I suspect they are in the Govt Book of Lies tho 😆

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Pretty much! Same in CA

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

Nope. Must have been before my time. Didn't have to use I-70 until 2008 when I started a new job in Topeka and commuted.

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Irunthis1's avatar

They did move the toll location start point from Leavenworth County to Douglas at least 15 maybe 20 years ago (time flies) as I think Leavenworth opted out of continuing the toll here. I don't remember the particulars of it but I can guarantee it cost them a pretty penny to move it.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

It was in late 70's

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Sunlover's avatar

That is so true!

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Ohio Deb's avatar

Do you think the toll roads(control roads) are part of the conditioning for restricting travel or 15 minute cities?

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