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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

US troops are in Ukraine...don't let anyone tell you differently.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I could drop dozens of vids of US idiots that are over there fighting with other NATO geniuses. It's like the a social justice thing for 'conservatives'.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I'm talking regular active duty troops being in Ukraine.

Biden and Blinken are lying about their presence.

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Chevrus's avatar

Those HIMARS systems dont just run themselves.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Himars aren't complicated or high tech. It's not rocket science. We trained 18 year old to use them and the guys who are using them are some of the best and brightest.

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Special Ted's avatar

Taken straight from the 5GW pamphlet, sounds like.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Are you saying rocket artillery is so complicated it requires a bachelors degree to operate?

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Special Ted's avatar

Nope. You should re-read what I wrote. I know military gays always need a minute, so take your time.

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Special Ted's avatar

Uh-oh...was that a typo?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

So Himars can't be operated by others?

NVM almost a dozen nations have bought or are using it themselves.

UAE, Jordan, Singapore, the USA, and Romania are current operators and Australia, Estonia, latvia (they've seen how good it is at killing Russians),Lithuania, Morroco, Taiwan, and Poland are future operators.

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Special Ted's avatar

Who GAF about Himars? Other than you, of course. I just like replying to your comments, because almost no one else does and I don't want you to get lonely. You seem really lonely and seek attention like my children. Carry on, Mr Always Right.

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Janet's avatar

I’m believing you. Of course we are there. Duh.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

This is how the quagmire in Vietnam started.

Couple years later...and more than 58,000 dead Americans...along with that "Saigon moment" with the helos on top of the US Embassy...it will be repeated all over again.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Another 20 year long war. Afghanistan was just a repeat.

And let's not forget about the collateral damage. This is just those killed:

2,000,000 civilians both sides

1,100,000 enemy combatants

250,000 South Vietnamese soldiers

Any takers on what the collateral damage will be by the end of the Ukraine war?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

A good friend of mine is being treated for cancer that was caused by his exposure to Agent Orange during the Vietnam War.

The heartache, trauma, injuries and illnesses, don't go away when the troops are pulled out.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

My 2nd oldest brother - two tours of duty with the USMC in VN - died in 2018 due to Agent Orange exposure.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Hitting the "like" button for your comment doesn't seem appropriate.

But I wanted to acknowledge what you wrote and offer my condolences.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Dunno, but Russia is sending t55 tanks into Ukraine now to face off with Abrams, Leopard 1 and 2s, and Challenger 2s.

It's going to be a seal clubbing, as usual.

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Janet's avatar

I know that. My husband was drafted into the Marines in 69 because he had a college degree. He was on track to be a sniper but the plans changed for him.

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Chevrus's avatar

Several differences being that Ukraine is on Russias border and they are quite intent on securing it. Also, due to modern battle surveillance it is very risky to "mass up". Both sides are increasingly using smaller units and fragmenting the larger ones. It is unlikely that the 101st or 82nd airborne will simply march into battle.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

We have no business being in Ukraine.

The neocons and the elites don't have kids in the military. It won't be their kids coming home in a body bag to Dover AFB.

The US no longer has the moral authority. They have been blowing the shit out of the Middle East for the last 20+ and killing innocent civilians.

The US has also been overthrowing and interfering in other countries' government for at least 75+ years.

So sick of this...

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Chevrus's avatar

We do have business in Ukraine. Since WW2 the USA has been collaborating with nazis there, using the region as thorn in the Soviets side and we have staged coups in Kiev twice in 20 years.

Biolabs, Burisma holdings, money laundering, arming funding and training since 2014...the list goes on. Should we continue to meddle? I think not. Do we have Biznuss there...yup, and it's BIG.

Keep in mind that the OBOR link to the EU runs through Ukraine so there are multiple reasons to destroy it.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

OK, now your previous comments make more sense.

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Chevrus's avatar

Yeah sorry, I am multitasking ...

to be fair it is a muddle informational landscape.

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AngelaK's avatar

Business and the Bidens and the Big Guy.

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Credenda's avatar

What is OBOR?

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Chevrus's avatar

One Belt One Road

Essentially the New Silk Road China is creating.

The idea is to create a contiguous trade route that goes right into the heart of Europe.

Of course this would interfere with the USA sabotage of the EU in order to prolong its flagging dominance. Cheap Russian energy was already denied them, so it would never do to have a better trade relationship with China.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Yep.

We export Tranny-ism, LGBTQ, pedophilia, and the New World Order worldwide. We maintain military bases and operations all over the world.

WE ARE THE BADDIES, NOW.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

...and the US created and funded the covid bioweapon that killed and injured millions, along with destroying countries' economies.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

We aren't the bad guys.

Your friends the Russians are.

And by the way, how is the winter offensive going? You run out of mobiks to throw into minefields yet?

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Credenda's avatar

I heard recently that we killed one million Iraqis. If this is true I am horrified and ashamed. But I too jumped on the bandwagon back in the day with GWB. It was sold to me as a necessary action to “free” them and eventually the whole Middle East. We didn’t free them. We just bombed them whenever the State Department decided they needed to be bombed. And then, we armed and supported Al Quada, the head-choppers. All this sickens me that I went along unthinkingly because I trusted the R leadership. That’s why I can’t support Ukraine (our war against Russia). It’s just more of the same.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Iraq was when I started to wake up - attacking them because "The SAUDIS" attacked us on 9/11, was too much cognitive dissonance.

I'll never forget the US calling for an international invasion of Iraq on the premise that they had disobeyed the UN's call for weapons inspections (which we never found because they didn't exist.)

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AngelaK's avatar

YES on all fronts. Me and my family too because we so believed that George W. was a moral Christian from a moral family who would do the right things.

We have relatives and friends in Europe and they all condemned us as a gvt for our unwarranted invasion of Iraq, and we so naively rebuked their condemnations because of blind, patriotic, Bush believing, trust. How foolish we were. How gullible. And I see that W is now palsy wowsy with many demonrats.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I also heard the same figure for how many Iraqis were killed.

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AngelaK's avatar

Correct on all fronts. My mom loved this country and believed it to he morally sound and God fearing due to the faith of its founding fathers, until she started getting interested in foreign policy two decades ago and slowly started realizing that a nation who does all of the above you so rightly mention, can no longer be blessed. Our merciless bombing of Kosovo under Clinton, and the lies used to justify it, started to wake her up.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

A friend of mine is a graduate of the US Naval Academy. On his first (and only) tour of duty after graduating as an Ensign, he served aboard an attack sub, and unfortunately had to participate in the shelling of decent Orthodox Christian people in Kosovo for the benefit of the Muslims.

He did his required service, and immediately left the NWO ... I mean, uh ... US Navy.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

We do have business in Ukraine.

Russia does not.

Might want to ask what Russia was doing in 1919-1921 in Eastern Europe.

Why did almost every warsaw pact nation join nato again?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

It's Russia quaqmire.

They're 10071 vehicles in the hole along with 187k dead soldiers.

427 days into a 3 day war biden wanted them to win so it would go away and they still can't win.

They aren't used to people fighting back.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Either you want weapons inspectors or not?

First you claim the weapons are being sold on the black market and the inspectors say no, that's not happening and then you complain about the inspectors.

That's like a kid demanding dessert then complaining because they got cake, not ice cream.

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Janet's avatar

Huh? You lost me there. Advisors shoehorned us into Vietnam. We lost friends there. My husband was drafted and sent there. He saw horror but if you want us in Ukraine—you first Ben.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I'm current military. Nobody is being drafted.

We don't have advisors in Ukraine.

You complain about weapons allegedly being sol on the black market then also complain about the soldiers who are inspecting the weapons.

At least be consistent.

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Kim's avatar

I’d contact my congressman and ask why the hell are they allowing troops in Ukraine, but my rep is old buckethead Steve Cohen. He blocked me from contacting him after I asked about all the money-laundering in Ukraine. I was not even being rude. 😂

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I have Fetterneck as my Senator.

Congresswoman who I have is a leftist communist BLM supporting wacko.

Pennsylvania cheated.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

We have had troops in Ukraine since Trump.

My unit trained the Ukrainian tankers and they sent me a piece of a Russian tank they destroyed as a gift. A piece of the kontact5 armor plate. I'm going to mount it on my wall.

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Credenda's avatar

Such a waste! Misplaced patriotism, the result of decades of domestic Intel brainwashing.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Neo-conservatives....

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Chevrus's avatar

What do most of them have in common.

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Politico Phil's avatar

The health of the state is war.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Self defense is not a crime.

Who is invading Ukraine, again?

Putin is the real Neocon here

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Politico Phil's avatar

You don't even know what a neoconservative is.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I’m not really concerned what a neocon says.

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Chevrus's avatar

Ditto, they are dozens...plus quite a few body bags.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

And? You wanted accountability of the weapons. You asked for this and then complain when it gets done? What do you want?

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