Funny you should mention grandma Peter, my latest article deals with that subject:
Disease: The Back Door to Slit the Throat of All Notions of Freedom
The Concept of Contagion - The very notion of brings out the worst in us while in many of our minds it’s bringing out the best:
Each of us is a companion-seeking weapon that can kill grandma at any moment, and so because we ourselves are the threat, freedom is the threat, and therefore all non-essential activity must be denied. Only “they” get to determine what is or is not “essential”, and this is a dynamically changing judgement based on what they want in the moment and at the expense of everything else.
Think about how diabolically genius this is—they are preying on our instinctual need to be good people. After-all, who wants to be responsible for killing grandma? Not a soul. Consequently those bewitched by the propaganda then eagerly turn in their sovereignty to the nearest checkpoint while hating and scorning those who do not. Next the parasite controlled media dramatically magnifies both the positive feelings that stem from doing right by your fellow man, right alongside the negative aspects of self-righteousness, indignation, self-preservation, & condemnation
Remembering simple life lessons is all that was needed to avoid becoming a guinnea pig.
- Cheaters gonna cheat. That which is borne of a lie will always be a lie. Never trust a liar. They lied to us about masks. Never used before, no sound basis; the Fauci flip-flop assertion that science changed "at the speed of science." Real science crawls, pseudoscience sprints. Assertions that walking masked ten feet from host stand to a safe unmasked table stopped a virus. They lied about lockdowns. Never used before, no sound basis. They lied about "cases" bolstered by fake testing and redefined criteria. They took their St George beatification holiday from a 'pandemic' and coordinated massive protests after declaring pandemic mandate protests too dangerous. So many lies, yet most went along with each and every obvious and provable lie. The cheaters cheated over and over and over while their mates made excuse after excuse after excuse to keep trusting them. If they had gotten out of that abusive relationship they never would've trusted being injected with anything by their abuser. Willful blindness.
- Follow the money. The biggest financial winners were the ones buying ads on the biggest media outlets, publications. They got the news they paid for.
- Hypocrisy in leaders signifies they don't mean what they say. Pelosi and Mayor Beetlejuice haircuts. Newscum French Laundry unmasked meals with top health executives, and "I didn't exhale" excuses. "More sophisticated" Obama birthday unmasked party goers served by "unsophisticated" masked waiters. Admonishments to avoid family gatherings by mayors who promptly jumped on planes to gather with family.
All that and more happened, was witnessed, reported *before* the injections came out. Yet 70% trusted the proven liars and bought hypocrites to take those injections. Even many who called out the previous lies and bought hypocrisy took the injections. Ignoring basic rules and tenets of trustworthiness. Which is all it took to avoid the shots and the inherent danger that being a guinnea pig entails.
It didn't take rocket/medical science to figure it all out. It only took common sense. Anyone who claims differently is lying or in denial.
Absolutely. My California commie inspired leftist brother, who would call me just to argue, called me when Trump was still President and asked if I was going to take the vaccine. (This was in the early stages, when I guess leftists were claiming they wouldn’t take it because Orange Man bad.)
My immediate response was, ‘NO!
Brother was shocked. He thought I would do anything for Trump, and he demanded to know why.
And my next immediate response was, ‘Because I’m not a guinea pig!’
@Spirit- my brother has a Masters in Nursing and yet called me an irresponsible killer because I refused to take the shots. Husband did for overseas travel for work and has ended up with permanent heart damage. I have one high school friend who nearly died from Covid (I think she's a smoker AND her dr immediately put her on a ventilator) and she has taken the booster every year because "It couldn't hurt and I want to be protected in case it DOES work". Honest. Another high school friend also nearly died (also immediately put on a ventilator) and has said he will never get a Covid shot again. And yet ANOTHER high school friend has a son who works as a MD at the CDC so "We always take his advice." You have no idea how hard it is for me to not say to her "Your kid was lied to too and shame on him for not questioning his superiors." It's maddening. All of it.
Leonora - oh, come on. You know that ‘doctors are baffled’ meant, why didn’t more women have gut feelings/womens’ intuition about the mRNA shot not being safe to inject into their bodies.
They are a captured group! College educated can’t seem to see beyond the lies! Not everyone that is college educated, so if you are going to scream at me because you are aware, than Thank God you are❤️Peace
A Dem friend of mine called me a "good Republican" for not getting the shot, he said that most Republicans did not take the jab. I sent him the video compilation of Dems, celebs and media talking heads all saying that they would NOT take a shot that came to market during Trump's administration. Of course I never got a response from my friend. "Touche".
I haven’t forgotten a thing from the first moment of that attack on humanity. I followed continuously, probably watched every single daily briefing from the White House. I heard President Trump try to calm everyone down. I heard him suggest alternative treatments. I saw him vilified and pilloried and accused of mass murder. I saw the chryons CNN ran day and night of the numbers of the supposed dead. The panic of the public was palpable. Trump tried to get the situation back on track, but the hysteria was like the L.A. wildfires.
I don’t know you. You seem to be a diehard TDS sufferer. Maybe you have a brother-in-law still lying in ICU. If so, I’m sorry. But I was a strong Trump supporter and I was able to read the times and make my own decision. Your brother-in-law could have done the same. Trump would never have mandated the jab.
Pushing the mRNA on innocent people is Trump's big FAILURE.
Trump is a FAILURE for promoting the death jabs even now that it's obvious to pretty much everyone on earth that they are horribly dangerous and worse than ineffective.
Aside from that, I'd like to like Trump. He has a lot of good ideas and policies aside from that OWS bullshit.
I follow Trump very closely. He is very hard at work in a hundred different directions, looking to save our collective asses in a world gone mad. I haven’t seen what you claim.
You are quite warped with TDS. And Trump obviously lives rent free in your head. Must be a truly miserable existence.
Pretty-red, old guy - it’s a big club, those who were fooled/coerced into getting jabbed. Literally billions of people! I’m always irritated when I see comments on Substack by folks who weren’t jabbed, where they belittle those who were injected, and/or brag that they didn’t do so. I think it’s rude and divisive.
I understand what you are saying, two wrongs don’t make a right but the campaign on people who chose not to vaccinate and then were terminated, treated poorly by their families, excluded from Christmas, said they were selfish and would kill granny, deserved to be locked in gulags, should have no rights to be around vaccinated and live their lives among the people etc…..and I could go on so excuse us for being a little salty!
yeah, true. In the end, I believe it is the need to feel superior too. All those attributes(superior, rude, divisive) are important to stroke one's ego at the cost of others'.
And read the sec filing! So simple yet no one bothered! It clearly stated that this was an experimental genetic therapy, ie a massive stage 1 clinical trial on billions of people for something with a 99.5% survival rate. Talk about mass stupidity!
A top pulmonologist in our city gave an impassioned public talk about how Covid was killing everyone so we should stay home, mask up, etc. Then he immediately made a commercial encouraging us to go to the local casino (because “it was really clean”) and afterwards jumped on a plane to go on vacation. Apparently, he nor most of the populace could see the hypocrisy.
I’ve had my life. I’m more concerned who is killing the children. When did my old arse need children to sacrifice and die for me? How many children were hidden under floors and in closets or walls, sent away into forests, hidden in caves, smuggled out? By grandparents. When did adults become so depraved, including some grannies, expecting the children to become the front line of protection of their old arses? When? We know when. But it’s been going on for a time anyway. Child sacrifice—alive and well in western countries.
I absolutely love this declaration Janet. I am only 44, but I would lay down my life - which has been substantial and filled with love and good times - in an instant to grant children the benefit of those experiences which they might not otherwise have.
I’ve had my laughter, love, hot showers on freezing cold days, ice cold air conditioners on a blisteringly hot afternoons, soft girlfriends in front of a dancing, crackling fire, the family altogether with full tables and wonderful aromas at Thanksgiving & Christmas, warm embraces and the exquisite luxury of being surrounded by loved ones.
I’ve had it all. The kids need it as well. We cannot deprive them of those blessings by clinging on for a few more years while they sacrifice the best moments of their lives for that fleeting bit of living for us.
@Verve- Hillary is a sociopath (certainly IMHO). I was at a dinner with her once. She was less than 5' away from me and the hair on the back of my neck stood up. I did everything I could to not run away from her.
Wow...what a story... to be a fly on the wall...I know that during Trump's first term they got a ton of voodoo art and artifacts out of the White House left behind by the Clintons and put them off premises - the spiritual nature of all this is really lost on some of the younger generations who've been groomed to be atheists. I also know the priest who said they had to do mutiple exorcisms in and around the White House.
I'm with you Janet. When they announced 15 days to stop the spread on March 16, 2020, my first thought was that when we're under military attack, we (and every society) are willing to sacrifice our young men, with their whole lives ahead of them, to protect our freedom and way of life. In this case, we were causing vast harm by shutting down because we were unwilling to sacrifice some old people who had lived their lives (assuming COVID was as deadly to old people as claimed, turns out it wasn't). I already knew we were a stupid, self-destructive society, but STILL I expected that dichotomy to be pointed out and corrected. But I never heard the inverse "logic" mentioned, even in alternative media. We're even dumber and more gullible than I thought. I'm using the collective "we", not all of us. But I never spoke to anyone who could see beyond "gotta protect granny". How does a population like that avoid collapse? Well, history says societies never avoid collapse. I hope we're the first, we do have the advantage of dissenting voices being available for those willing to look beyond the liars who dominate. I hope that's a difference-maker.
my number one issue and biggest argument against killing granny was always if the vax works let her get the vax and she will be protected. Why must I get it to protect HER. false logic.
I have a bit of a problem with calling that "false logic". This is a hypothetical to illustrate what I mean. Suppose the jab is 80% effective, in seniors and others. And the virus is deadly to seniors but not others. If everybody gets the jab, only 20% can possibly carry the virus. If Granny is among that 20%, she is better protected if everyone she contacts is jabbed, because that greatly reduces the pool of people who can infect her. So, the more jabbing, the less likely she is to encounter the virus.
So, I think the argument "why do I need the jab to protect a jabbed granny" only applies so long as they claim near 100% effectiveness. Which they did, and many still believe. However, the pro-jabbers who admit it's less than 100% effective can use the argument above, with valid logic.
Don't misunderstand, I'm against the jab. We're seniors, never considered it. We're thrilled our recently born grandson has gotten zero jabs of any kind, and none are planned for him, ever. COVID seems about as deadly as the flu, maybe marginally more so, but the response was obviously very stupid, from the start. Except for the evil ones who benefited - they weren't stupid, just satanic. Pro-jabbers are morons or evil, IMO. Still, I try to be open-minded and logical, and there IS logic to jabbing to protect granny, if there were to exist a vax that protects, but not perfectly. Mandates would never be justified, and IMO, voluntary jabbing would be a bad idea. But viewed narrowly, that is a valid pro-jab argument, although it's overwhelmed by anti-jab arguments, which I'm sure you're well aware of.
@Janet... Killing and sacrificing children started milleniums ago and still are...
2 Kings 17:14 But they would not listen, but were stubborn, as their fathers had been, who did not believe in the Lord their God. 15 They despised his statutes and his covenant that he made with their fathers and the warnings that he gave them. They went after false idols and became false, and they followed the nations that were around them, concerning whom the Lord had commanded them that they should not do like them. 16 And they abandoned all the commandments of the Lord their God, and made for themselves metal images of two calves; and they made an Asherah and worshiped all the host of heaven and served Baal. 17 And they burned their sons and their daughters as offerings and used divination and omens and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the Lord, provoking him to anger. 18 Therefore the Lord was very angry with Israel and removed them out of his sight. None was left but the tribe of Judah only.
19 Judah also did not keep the commandments of the Lord their God, but walked in the customs that Israel had introduced. 20 And the Lord rejected all the descendants of Israel and afflicted them and gave them into the hand of plunderers, until he had cast them out of his sight.
I was never concerned about killing grandma... we are born into this world to die. None of us get out alive... I though it was a stupid notion to tell people they would kill grandma.
I don’t have the article, but I remember reading that the HHS/FDA/CDC/NIH/DoD (the medical military industrial complex) had 9-10 messaging ‘angles’ or pleas to appeal to every type of individual — ranging from fear, guilt, patriotism, doing your part, safety, etc., etc.
I’m quite confident my former company (a DS “ Federally funded research and development center”) used its sizable employee base to test out these different messaging approaches. We always seem to be ahead of the curve for some crazy reason.
So true, Grandmas that would tell their adult grandchildren “to just get the vaccine” smh. They made their choices about end of life gatherings, not us.
I’m a bit confused Tom, so please clarify if I am missing something. Did that not get explored in this article? Using the killshot to cut off and prevent penitence, as the demon stated?
The combined meaning of the serpent on the WHO logo, the definition of pharma, and Revelation 18:23 is corroborated by the demon in this video, who says that the devil works through medicine, and that they used the pandemic as an excuse to inject millions of people in order to kill them so that Jesus could not have them. Watch her reaction when the interviewer mentions His name (the beeps hail from a time when you couldn’t use the word “vaccine” on YouTube without getting a strike and the video removed):
Thinking about it more. The things we were pressured to do about the recent pestilence, specifically, are the ones I was referencing. When I said "there is nothing I can do," that was hyperbole. There are appropriate things that we can do, if we do them in faith. If we use the wisdom that comes from fear of the Lord, and give Him credit for everything.
Those who want to destroy will certainly push us to act out of fear again and again. I'm already seeing search algorithms that push things that cause fear and dismay. My sense of it is that this will only get worse.
The answer has to be prayer, and seeking the Lord!
Funny you should mention grandma Peter, my latest article deals with that subject:
Disease: The Back Door to Slit the Throat of All Notions of Freedom
The Concept of Contagion - The very notion of brings out the worst in us while in many of our minds it’s bringing out the best:
Each of us is a companion-seeking weapon that can kill grandma at any moment, and so because we ourselves are the threat, freedom is the threat, and therefore all non-essential activity must be denied. Only “they” get to determine what is or is not “essential”, and this is a dynamically changing judgement based on what they want in the moment and at the expense of everything else.
Think about how diabolically genius this is—they are preying on our instinctual need to be good people. After-all, who wants to be responsible for killing grandma? Not a soul. Consequently those bewitched by the propaganda then eagerly turn in their sovereignty to the nearest checkpoint while hating and scorning those who do not. Next the parasite controlled media dramatically magnifies both the positive feelings that stem from doing right by your fellow man, right alongside the negative aspects of self-righteousness, indignation, self-preservation, & condemnation
Excerpt from: https://tritorch.substack.com/p/signs-and-symbols-predictive-programming
Remembering simple life lessons is all that was needed to avoid becoming a guinnea pig.
- Cheaters gonna cheat. That which is borne of a lie will always be a lie. Never trust a liar. They lied to us about masks. Never used before, no sound basis; the Fauci flip-flop assertion that science changed "at the speed of science." Real science crawls, pseudoscience sprints. Assertions that walking masked ten feet from host stand to a safe unmasked table stopped a virus. They lied about lockdowns. Never used before, no sound basis. They lied about "cases" bolstered by fake testing and redefined criteria. They took their St George beatification holiday from a 'pandemic' and coordinated massive protests after declaring pandemic mandate protests too dangerous. So many lies, yet most went along with each and every obvious and provable lie. The cheaters cheated over and over and over while their mates made excuse after excuse after excuse to keep trusting them. If they had gotten out of that abusive relationship they never would've trusted being injected with anything by their abuser. Willful blindness.
- Follow the money. The biggest financial winners were the ones buying ads on the biggest media outlets, publications. They got the news they paid for.
- Hypocrisy in leaders signifies they don't mean what they say. Pelosi and Mayor Beetlejuice haircuts. Newscum French Laundry unmasked meals with top health executives, and "I didn't exhale" excuses. "More sophisticated" Obama birthday unmasked party goers served by "unsophisticated" masked waiters. Admonishments to avoid family gatherings by mayors who promptly jumped on planes to gather with family.
All that and more happened, was witnessed, reported *before* the injections came out. Yet 70% trusted the proven liars and bought hypocrites to take those injections. Even many who called out the previous lies and bought hypocrisy took the injections. Ignoring basic rules and tenets of trustworthiness. Which is all it took to avoid the shots and the inherent danger that being a guinnea pig entails.
It didn't take rocket/medical science to figure it all out. It only took common sense. Anyone who claims differently is lying or in denial.
Absolutely. My California commie inspired leftist brother, who would call me just to argue, called me when Trump was still President and asked if I was going to take the vaccine. (This was in the early stages, when I guess leftists were claiming they wouldn’t take it because Orange Man bad.)
My immediate response was, ‘NO!
Brother was shocked. He thought I would do anything for Trump, and he demanded to know why.
And my next immediate response was, ‘Because I’m not a guinea pig!’
@Spirit- my brother has a Masters in Nursing and yet called me an irresponsible killer because I refused to take the shots. Husband did for overseas travel for work and has ended up with permanent heart damage. I have one high school friend who nearly died from Covid (I think she's a smoker AND her dr immediately put her on a ventilator) and she has taken the booster every year because "It couldn't hurt and I want to be protected in case it DOES work". Honest. Another high school friend also nearly died (also immediately put on a ventilator) and has said he will never get a Covid shot again. And yet ANOTHER high school friend has a son who works as a MD at the CDC so "We always take his advice." You have no idea how hard it is for me to not say to her "Your kid was lied to too and shame on him for not questioning his superiors." It's maddening. All of it.
"Maddening" is the understatement of all time.
We need hangings, Pfauci pfirst:
https://patrick.net/post/1377537/2022-11-03-everyone-who-imposed-toxxine-mandates
@Patrick- Pfuck Pfauci
Doc - Re: women having no gut feelings. Don't you consider fear a gut feeling?
Leonora - oh, come on. You know that ‘doctors are baffled’ meant, why didn’t more women have gut feelings/womens’ intuition about the mRNA shot not being safe to inject into their bodies.
Cathleen, well, you could read it that way. But that isn't what she stated. "...amount of women who don't seem to have ANY gut feelings!"
That could be read as a put down of women. Hope you are right!
They are a captured group! College educated can’t seem to see beyond the lies! Not everyone that is college educated, so if you are going to scream at me because you are aware, than Thank God you are❤️Peace
A Dem friend of mine called me a "good Republican" for not getting the shot, he said that most Republicans did not take the jab. I sent him the video compilation of Dems, celebs and media talking heads all saying that they would NOT take a shot that came to market during Trump's administration. Of course I never got a response from my friend. "Touche".
I always enjoy seeing them getting their noses rubbed in hard cold facts like that!
I love this one! WS -- thanks for this concise ray of sunshine.
Yep! He still (as of Nov 22, 2024) claims his spot as the"Father of the V". Do people not remember????
Aaaand, my brother-in-law still lies in ICU because he believed the V-Daddy.
And your point would be? Shall we have a revolution and declare Trump ineligible and replace him with Kamala or another round of Cabbage Head?
I haven’t forgotten a thing from the first moment of that attack on humanity. I followed continuously, probably watched every single daily briefing from the White House. I heard President Trump try to calm everyone down. I heard him suggest alternative treatments. I saw him vilified and pilloried and accused of mass murder. I saw the chryons CNN ran day and night of the numbers of the supposed dead. The panic of the public was palpable. Trump tried to get the situation back on track, but the hysteria was like the L.A. wildfires.
I don’t know you. You seem to be a diehard TDS sufferer. Maybe you have a brother-in-law still lying in ICU. If so, I’m sorry. But I was a strong Trump supporter and I was able to read the times and make my own decision. Your brother-in-law could have done the same. Trump would never have mandated the jab.
Trump's biggest advantage in the election was that Kamala was part of the Biden administration, which mandated murder by mRNA.
Not to mention that she's a horribly incompetent diversity hire.
Pushing the mRNA on innocent people is Trump's big FAILURE.
Trump is a FAILURE for promoting the death jabs even now that it's obvious to pretty much everyone on earth that they are horribly dangerous and worse than ineffective.
Aside from that, I'd like to like Trump. He has a lot of good ideas and policies aside from that OWS bullshit.
I disagree with your interpretation of the matter. Trump didn’t push anything on anybody. He tried to calm the stampede.
Trump is _still_ trying to get credit for developing the death jabs at "warp speed"". That in itself is quite warped.
I follow Trump very closely. He is very hard at work in a hundred different directions, looking to save our collective asses in a world gone mad. I haven’t seen what you claim.
You are quite warped with TDS. And Trump obviously lives rent free in your head. Must be a truly miserable existence.
Adios.
You're wrong. I support Trump EXCEPT for his continuous praise for the death jabs.
You can look up for yourself how he keeps pushing the jabs. Example: The nomination message about Nesheiwat.
I only wish I had YOUR level of true insight.
(took the first 2 jabs !@$#?)
Pretty-red, old guy - it’s a big club, those who were fooled/coerced into getting jabbed. Literally billions of people! I’m always irritated when I see comments on Substack by folks who weren’t jabbed, where they belittle those who were injected, and/or brag that they didn’t do so. I think it’s rude and divisive.
It's not nearly as rude as what was done by the psycho vaxxers to innocent people who just wanted control over their own bodies.
I understand what you are saying, two wrongs don’t make a right but the campaign on people who chose not to vaccinate and then were terminated, treated poorly by their families, excluded from Christmas, said they were selfish and would kill granny, deserved to be locked in gulags, should have no rights to be around vaccinated and live their lives among the people etc…..and I could go on so excuse us for being a little salty!
This was a reply to Cathleen Manny!
yeah, true. In the end, I believe it is the need to feel superior too. All those attributes(superior, rude, divisive) are important to stroke one's ego at the cost of others'.
well as long as you never ever take any other 'vaccine' and keep everyone else you can away from you, there's good out of evil
And read the sec filing! So simple yet no one bothered! It clearly stated that this was an experimental genetic therapy, ie a massive stage 1 clinical trial on billions of people for something with a 99.5% survival rate. Talk about mass stupidity!
I read the SEC filing in 2021 too. Tried telling others. Few were interested. Now many are dead or have cancer.
200 likes for this one. Plus if anyone had read the initial test results, that would have red flagged anyone with critical thinking skills.
A top pulmonologist in our city gave an impassioned public talk about how Covid was killing everyone so we should stay home, mask up, etc. Then he immediately made a commercial encouraging us to go to the local casino (because “it was really clean”) and afterwards jumped on a plane to go on vacation. Apparently, he nor most of the populace could see the hypocrisy.
there is at least a civil suit in there...they ALL need to be hounded for their lies and grift and harms caused til death do they part
Wow!!!! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Yes. Common sense is in short supply these days.
I’ve had my life. I’m more concerned who is killing the children. When did my old arse need children to sacrifice and die for me? How many children were hidden under floors and in closets or walls, sent away into forests, hidden in caves, smuggled out? By grandparents. When did adults become so depraved, including some grannies, expecting the children to become the front line of protection of their old arses? When? We know when. But it’s been going on for a time anyway. Child sacrifice—alive and well in western countries.
I absolutely love this declaration Janet. I am only 44, but I would lay down my life - which has been substantial and filled with love and good times - in an instant to grant children the benefit of those experiences which they might not otherwise have.
I’ve had my laughter, love, hot showers on freezing cold days, ice cold air conditioners on a blisteringly hot afternoons, soft girlfriends in front of a dancing, crackling fire, the family altogether with full tables and wonderful aromas at Thanksgiving & Christmas, warm embraces and the exquisite luxury of being surrounded by loved ones.
I’ve had it all. The kids need it as well. We cannot deprive them of those blessings by clinging on for a few more years while they sacrifice the best moments of their lives for that fleeting bit of living for us.
Beautifully written. Felt somewhat as though I was a fly on the wall in your beautiful life moments.
Now look well, and I mean really
pull back the
curtain on allllllll the other vaccines. Each is as harmful to your (or their) charmed life as this “vaccine” could’ve been to your own.
Yes, the children need and deserve beach trips, Christmas mornings, loud singing with peers.
The ones with autism and worse on account of childhood vaccines, don’t get what you and I got.
Look well…
Thanks! But who do you think you’re talking to KC? Look well!?
https://tritorch.com/degradation
Oh I have =)
Wonderful!!
TriTorch, your lovely middle paragraph above kindled my heart - so I'm also writing my own personal version. Thanks!
Hear, hear, Janet!! And by "grandparents", you mean sociopaths like Pelosi, Biden, Bill and Hillary, ad nauseum... I second that emotion.
@Verve- Hillary is a sociopath (certainly IMHO). I was at a dinner with her once. She was less than 5' away from me and the hair on the back of my neck stood up. I did everything I could to not run away from her.
Wow...what a story... to be a fly on the wall...I know that during Trump's first term they got a ton of voodoo art and artifacts out of the White House left behind by the Clintons and put them off premises - the spiritual nature of all this is really lost on some of the younger generations who've been groomed to be atheists. I also know the priest who said they had to do mutiple exorcisms in and around the White House.
I'm with you Janet. When they announced 15 days to stop the spread on March 16, 2020, my first thought was that when we're under military attack, we (and every society) are willing to sacrifice our young men, with their whole lives ahead of them, to protect our freedom and way of life. In this case, we were causing vast harm by shutting down because we were unwilling to sacrifice some old people who had lived their lives (assuming COVID was as deadly to old people as claimed, turns out it wasn't). I already knew we were a stupid, self-destructive society, but STILL I expected that dichotomy to be pointed out and corrected. But I never heard the inverse "logic" mentioned, even in alternative media. We're even dumber and more gullible than I thought. I'm using the collective "we", not all of us. But I never spoke to anyone who could see beyond "gotta protect granny". How does a population like that avoid collapse? Well, history says societies never avoid collapse. I hope we're the first, we do have the advantage of dissenting voices being available for those willing to look beyond the liars who dominate. I hope that's a difference-maker.
my number one issue and biggest argument against killing granny was always if the vax works let her get the vax and she will be protected. Why must I get it to protect HER. false logic.
I have a bit of a problem with calling that "false logic". This is a hypothetical to illustrate what I mean. Suppose the jab is 80% effective, in seniors and others. And the virus is deadly to seniors but not others. If everybody gets the jab, only 20% can possibly carry the virus. If Granny is among that 20%, she is better protected if everyone she contacts is jabbed, because that greatly reduces the pool of people who can infect her. So, the more jabbing, the less likely she is to encounter the virus.
So, I think the argument "why do I need the jab to protect a jabbed granny" only applies so long as they claim near 100% effectiveness. Which they did, and many still believe. However, the pro-jabbers who admit it's less than 100% effective can use the argument above, with valid logic.
Don't misunderstand, I'm against the jab. We're seniors, never considered it. We're thrilled our recently born grandson has gotten zero jabs of any kind, and none are planned for him, ever. COVID seems about as deadly as the flu, maybe marginally more so, but the response was obviously very stupid, from the start. Except for the evil ones who benefited - they weren't stupid, just satanic. Pro-jabbers are morons or evil, IMO. Still, I try to be open-minded and logical, and there IS logic to jabbing to protect granny, if there were to exist a vax that protects, but not perfectly. Mandates would never be justified, and IMO, voluntary jabbing would be a bad idea. But viewed narrowly, that is a valid pro-jab argument, although it's overwhelmed by anti-jab arguments, which I'm sure you're well aware of.
@Janet... Killing and sacrificing children started milleniums ago and still are...
2 Kings 17:14 But they would not listen, but were stubborn, as their fathers had been, who did not believe in the Lord their God. 15 They despised his statutes and his covenant that he made with their fathers and the warnings that he gave them. They went after false idols and became false, and they followed the nations that were around them, concerning whom the Lord had commanded them that they should not do like them. 16 And they abandoned all the commandments of the Lord their God, and made for themselves metal images of two calves; and they made an Asherah and worshiped all the host of heaven and served Baal. 17 And they burned their sons and their daughters as offerings and used divination and omens and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the Lord, provoking him to anger. 18 Therefore the Lord was very angry with Israel and removed them out of his sight. None was left but the tribe of Judah only.
19 Judah also did not keep the commandments of the Lord their God, but walked in the customs that Israel had introduced. 20 And the Lord rejected all the descendants of Israel and afflicted them and gave them into the hand of plunderers, until he had cast them out of his sight.
I was never concerned about killing grandma... we are born into this world to die. None of us get out alive... I though it was a stupid notion to tell people they would kill grandma.
Stupid? It was a primary tactic and it worked like a witchcraft charm on millions of people. Define ‘stupid’ from satan’s point of view, please.
Define it for yourself, I'm not your damn school teacher.
I don’t have the article, but I remember reading that the HHS/FDA/CDC/NIH/DoD (the medical military industrial complex) had 9-10 messaging ‘angles’ or pleas to appeal to every type of individual — ranging from fear, guilt, patriotism, doing your part, safety, etc., etc.
I’m quite confident my former company (a DS “ Federally funded research and development center”) used its sizable employee base to test out these different messaging approaches. We always seem to be ahead of the curve for some crazy reason.
my trick is not have a tv radio newspaper any magazines and therefore all those messaging angles blow right on by.
So true, Grandmas that would tell their adult grandchildren “to just get the vaccine” smh. They made their choices about end of life gatherings, not us.
I love that summary. Reposted, with your link:
https://patrick.net/post/1342067/2021-10-22-psychology-of-vaxxers-they-are?start=1336#comment-2134863
Thanks buddy!
Count the cost. COUNT THE COST.
Is "grandma" alive, and destined for hell?
Or is "grandma" alive, and destined for heaven?
I’m a bit confused Tom, so please clarify if I am missing something. Did that not get explored in this article? Using the killshot to cut off and prevent penitence, as the demon stated?
https://tritorch.substack.com/p/by-your-magic-spell-all-the-nations
The combined meaning of the serpent on the WHO logo, the definition of pharma, and Revelation 18:23 is corroborated by the demon in this video, who says that the devil works through medicine, and that they used the pandemic as an excuse to inject millions of people in order to kill them so that Jesus could not have them. Watch her reaction when the interviewer mentions His name (the beeps hail from a time when you couldn’t use the word “vaccine” on YouTube without getting a strike and the video removed):
https://old.bitchute.com/video/2M3OEtnih5F6
You're not missing anything TriTorch. I wasn't very plain in my speech! It's all on me.
"Saving grandma" was an appeal to the flesh.
"I" can't save grandma. But Jesus can. The idea that anything I can do will "save grandma" is foolish.
The question posed by . . . "them" . . . is "what can I do? Their answer: I will do this thing . . ."
No. It's a gnostic lie. The enemy wants to frame things in . . . what I can do.
There is nothing I can do. Only Jesus can save.
Got it! Thanks Tom!
Thinking about it more. The things we were pressured to do about the recent pestilence, specifically, are the ones I was referencing. When I said "there is nothing I can do," that was hyperbole. There are appropriate things that we can do, if we do them in faith. If we use the wisdom that comes from fear of the Lord, and give Him credit for everything.
Those who want to destroy will certainly push us to act out of fear again and again. I'm already seeing search algorithms that push things that cause fear and dismay. My sense of it is that this will only get worse.
The answer has to be prayer, and seeking the Lord!
TriTorch, please never stop helping me refine my thoughts!
Language is such a blunt instrument!
Love you, brother . . .
And please never stop teaching me.
Love you brother.