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Annie's avatar

I am waiting for the airline that advertises "All pilots unvaxxed, all crew and employees are merit based hires only. No trannies. You are safe to fly with us!" I will be the 1st to book a flight.

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Christy's avatar

As long as I don’t have to go through TSA I’ll fly, along with unjabbed pilots.

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Flippin’ Jersey's avatar

Renounce your citizenship, go to Mexico, cross back over the border, bam!, free everything!

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jmsmithmd's avatar

Why renounce? Leave papers at home…

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Carlos's avatar

You truly make me laugh

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NewScott's avatar

Before you cross back you will have to pay the Cartel, one way or another

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Barbara's avatar

Illegals don't have to go through TSA.

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Christy's avatar

Omg Barbara don’t get me started on a peaceful Sunday🥰🥰🥰

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Barbara's avatar

Oh, we gotta keep our ✌️ peace

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Christy's avatar

lol. Just on Sundays🤣🤣🤣

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KB's avatar

it's kindof what SW airlines used to be 20 yrs ago. they're now as woke and DEI infected as the rest.

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YYR's avatar

Delta makes a subtle point of not being DEI obsessed.

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Deb's avatar

However they charged an additional couple of hundred dollars to employees that had an approved exception/ accommodation letter each month. This was in addition to their healthcare amount. The only airline to do so. Go figure.

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rolandttg's avatar

yeah. Delta are scum too

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Morgan Leake's avatar

A buddy of mine retired early from Delta, not too long ago, claiming that DEI ran rampant there.

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liz's avatar

yes but didnt they make them vax?

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WilliamHatcher's avatar

I personally know an unvaxxed Delta pilot captain (left seat.) I haven't asked him what he had to do to stay unvaxxed, but I know for a fact that he didn't take it

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

There are a few at every airline but not many.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

He slipped through the cracks, but they'll get him next time.

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

Yes made them vax

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Beckadee's avatar

Probably because they are not heavily unionized. Pilots and dispatchers only!

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Kathryn Dewalt's avatar

And yet, Delta was HARD-LINE vaxx' mandated!

Don't kid yourself. They are far from being the Georgia Peach that they once were!

I would still prefer flying Delta (over United, American or SW) but only because ALL their Captains... to my knowledge... present themselves as the gender with which they were born. (i don't travel very much anymore, so i could be wrong. I pray not)

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Julie Ann B's avatar

How?

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

And filled with older, and seriously overweight cabin crew!

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rolandttg's avatar

I did one of my MBA team projects on SW Airlines soon after they were founded. The flight attendants were throwbacks to the old days. Short skirts and high white boots. That was ~1978

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Carlos's avatar

What a wonderful days

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Jay Skywatcher's avatar

Nowadays the Tranny might follow you into the bathroom?

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

Notice its only USA based airlines or aircraft makers having these problems? Hope the meme makers get busy......:

1) GENDER+RACEsteria: Best Woke Boeing Memes (DIEversity!)

How many ESGs points can Boeing fit into their flying death traps? Doors? We don’t need no stinking doors! Some parts may be missing, when one door closes (another opens) and more woke Boeing memes!

https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/best-woke-boeing-memes-its-called-dieversity

2) GENDER+RACEsteria: Best Woke Flying and More Boeing Memes (Planes and Sh*t!)

What female pilots are thinking ("The engine light will just go out eventually..."), I'll take an upgrade to an old white male pilot and more woke flying + more Boeing memes!

https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/best-woke-flying-and-more-boeing-memes

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

after reading and seeing what happens on and in planes, I decided not to fly anymore. My family lives overseas and it is a pity I won't see them anymore in life, but first the jabs (and some countries still require them) and then all the missers with the planes. No thank you. When ever I hear one, I look up. Luckily we are in a very low air traffic area.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Time to resurrect Cunard Lines ....

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Ah yes....the greatest luxury transAtlantic ships ever built! I had an employer whose wife would go on annual "Cunard custom cruises" to the far-off countries! I was on several Caribbean cruises--but they're short and sweet - transAtlantic cruises are a totally different experience.

Do you remember back in the fall of 2019 - the CRUISE SHIPS were the first ones disabled by massive 'WUHAN Flu epidemics" - and their cruise ships were not allowed to go to port and discharge passengers. So "ships" are probably NOT a good substitute for FLYING to far-off places. Unless it's your own PRIVATE YACHT like the 'oligarchs' and 'elites' flout in our faces on a regular basis!!

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Roger Beal's avatar

As I recall, Cunard's advertising slogan was, "Getting There Is Half The Fun".

My dad's best college & army buddy played in a ship's orchestra in exchange for passage and a berth and meals - this was in 1946 or 1947.

During the 1960s, some of my friends traveled el cheapo on tramp steamers, thru the Caribbean and also the British Isles.

Young folks really have NO IDEA what all they missed.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

It's probably better the 'young folks' don't know what they 'missed'--LOL!! Tramp steamers, eh--a hardy group of buds you had there, 47!!

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Roger Beal's avatar

Tramp steamers ain't what you might be visualizing. They were (in Brit parlance) coasters, small usually old freighter tubs that creaked from port to port. They offered little in way of creature comforts, usually a bunk in a communal crew room (right over the engine room), and three squares a day. R&R was a folding chair on the deck, and a visit to the bridge if you proved worthy. All men aboard with the exception, sometimes, of the cook - same as a towboat on the Mississippi today. But CHEAP!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Actually---that's EXACTLY what I was picturing in my "head", 47--LOL! But thanks for the confirmation. (smile)

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rolandttg's avatar

they were also used as experimental tests for both 5G exposure and covid exposure.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Are you referring to cruise ships with this comment, Roland?

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A.J.'s avatar

If so, talk about sitting ducks. The Diamond Princess and Grand Princess cruise ships' 14 days psy-ops quarantines at US military bases in early 2020. No more mortality rates than typical for heavily senior-aged cruises.

Funny, super big media splashes in Feb-March 2020 on those ships, on the same cruise ship line, and virtually nothing in the news about any lessons-learned for any overreach epidemiologically or human rights violations with those cruise passengers. Immediate big public results were all San Francisco Bay Area counties locked down on March 17, 2020 and afterwards when the sheep there complied the feds quickly rolled out national lockdowns of two weeks for all to "slow the spread" and splash out lockdown fed checks.

Worth a read for the bewteen-the -lines.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/quarantine-diary-travis-air-force-base-grand-princess

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

This "political theater" encompassed the globe and paralyzed humanity--it is DIABOLICAL and they'll do it again!! That's why we who are AWAKE need to even MORE AWAKE AND ACTIVE in PUSHING BACK against the governmental/technocratic/gobalist regimes!

Those who are ASLEEP (most of my family) are, sorry to say, unable to be awakened--except by our ALMIGHTY GOD Himself!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

To be fair, cars aren’t really any more reassuring 😕

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

cars, or their drivers ? I hope my old automobile lives as long as I will !

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RunningLogic's avatar

Their drivers but without the driver most cars aren’t getting very far 😆

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Rebecca Beck's avatar

Obviously you are defending your position of wanting to fly (no one said you don't have a choice) and cars absolutely better choice in context of what she was talking about. Stay on task. Ha!

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CStone's avatar

With DIE hiring, cars will start failing soon…..as will bridges and high rise buildings, hospital equipment. You name it, everything is going to hell. That the acronym is DEI/DIE(more accurate), is not coincidence . It’s a warning.

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Beckadee's avatar

Get a grip please. You're scaring the children! lol

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RunningLogic's avatar

I beg to differ. I actually haven’t flown in ages so am not especially determined to fly, but there have been many auto accidents due to “medical emergencies” that have resulted in the deaths of more than just the impaired driver. These are frequently in the news. I would venture to guess that despite the issues with planes and pilots (I’m not saying it’s not scary or problematic to have so many be jabbed or have too many examples of inattentive and/or incompetent personnel on all levels), there have been far fewer deaths due to plane crashes than to car accidents. I get in my car almost every day, so that risk seems a lot more relevant to me.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I completely understand, Ingrid, but for us flying is a necessary evil. None of our 4 children live in the same state so we’re flying a couple times a year to see each of them. Then my mom and 2 sisters live in another state, so there’s 10 flights without any extra travel to vacation destinations. My husband has no hesitation, I pray every time we board a flight but ultimately I know our lives are in the hands of Almighty God and He has our days numbered.

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Cindi's avatar

Have not flown since the scamdemic but my son is stationed in Japan & I’m visiting him next month. Wanting to visit him while I still can. But sweating bullets over the flight, for sure.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

crossing my fingers, saying a little prayer ! I am sure everything will be fine but understand your bullets ! Your son will be so happy and I am sure, so are you !

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Cindi's avatar

😘 thx so much, Ingrid, I’ll take the 🤞🏻 & 🙏🏻!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

There's always "virtual meetings" - I know you won't feel the love - but at least you can SEE one another!

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

would be wonderful if dad had bought a computer - now he is 90 and refuses even more vehemently ! LUckily the place where my dementing mom is, has a web site and posts photos on regular times ! At least I get to so her now and then. Dad calls twice a week and finds that good enough LOL. So be it.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Yes...I have come to "accept" more and more unfortunate instances that at one time I would have found an "inventive way" around it!

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daverkb's avatar

More examples of how Woke screws up everything. This includes central planning based up climate change (a fake narrative) which in turn leads to a Green Agenda Narrative which bears no relationship to cost factor in manufacturing, or personal savings for that matter.

I often think how families are forced to spend ten of thousands for energy independence (solar generation) when nuclear power plants would do the trick cheaply, and given dependable power generation delivery like we used to have in the country (even in California). Sure a new industry is created, but why not just let economics and peoples' choices decide what industries survive or not?

The more the Woke, the more nothing works right.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I am actually for more decentralized energy, not because of climate change but because an overly centralized system is very vulnerable to attack and an attack would affect a lot more people 😕

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Everyone should have a solar grid on their house if they can do it.

Not a grid tie though. Needs to have battery storage, which is cheap now.

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daverkb's avatar

Not cheap for everyone. People need to decide for themselves. Because only people know their own circumstances.

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daverkb's avatar

Maybe ... I'm fine what people want to do, and my whole point. But I am against central planning, state mandates and coercion, subsidies and outright 'investment' grants, and on and on. I am really against with made up fantasy manufactured crises, fantasy credits mitigation, manufactured Best Practice Management state concocted.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh I’m definitely against mandates and government coercion too. I just think over centralization is a flawed model with the risks of attacks on our infrastructure. It makes us all too vulnerable and gives us less individual control.

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Tom's avatar

Proverbs 13:23 (ESV)

"The fallow ground of the poor would yield much food,

but it is swept away through injustice."

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Peter GL's avatar

The “woke” should “ wake up and smell their folly”

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Carlos's avatar

Doomberg had a really good video interview about mini nuclear power plants, that can provide a city of independent energy

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

PERFECT EXAMPLE: DEI hire Fani Wilis... And whoever is programming woke AI - meaning AI won't be able to take over...

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RunningLogic's avatar

—“What female pilots are thinking ("The engine light will just go out eventually...")”

That made me laugh because I’d actually be the opposite. I’d want to get it checked right away. And if stereotypes and personal experiences are to be believed, the male pilots would be the ones trying to get to the destination on an almost empty tank and ignoring the dash warning lights 😆 (I know it doesn’t work the same for planes because the pilots don’t decide when to get fuel generally but thought I should add my life observations to the analogy 😆)

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

Airline pilots with Military background are the most “complete the mission” oriented.

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CStone's avatar

RunningLigic, I can testify to that. I have a son-in-law that is oblivious about almost everything. My daughter, on the underhand, is very alert at all times and is the girliest-girl you can imagine. Yet she can sense when something is wrong with the car, and can almost always tell what it is…….but he is too arrogant to admit it.

She is like this in most areas of life and it amazes me. (She doesn’t get it from me. She’s like her Dad. He is former military and keeps his head on a swivel even now).

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Frances Lynch's avatar

Sounds like your son-in-law was aware of his limitations and wisely picked the right wife to protect him as he goes through life :)

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Kathryn Dewalt's avatar

I just had a brief [sober] 'vision' of a pilot driving his plane up to the pump, gets out, hooks up the pump... then goes inside to get a big gulp, chips and pay! The register rings up $300k and the pilot rolls his eyes. "Dang! That was $295k on Monday!"

Shaking his head, puts his credit card away and puts the hose back.

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RunningLogic's avatar

🤣🤣🤣

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

Don't forget yelling at unruly passenger distractions... Oh wait, pilots have to deal with that too!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Lol—“Don’t make me stop this plane!” 😆 Some of those passengers really could use a good spanking though 😬😆

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Rebecca Beck's avatar

Or again just defend your position. Ha!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Not sure why you seem to be so bent out of shape by my posts? It’s really ok for us to express different opinions here. I’m not bothered if someone disagrees with me and I like to hear different points of view even if I don’t share them.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

RunningLogic - Don’t worry about this account/name. Have seen the name before doing the same thing. It’s random. Trying to stir up something out of nothing, and not especially kind about it. Choose to ignore the comments. There wasn’t anything wrong with any of what you said. 😉

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you Sunnydaze, I appreciate the support and insight. I’m always kind of puzzled by posts like those because almost everyone here is usually very receptive to hearing other viewpoints when they are expressed respectfully. So that kind of threw me. I hope you have a nice Sunday!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Absolutely! Ya sometimes it’s just weird and makes us scratch our heads and wonder where THAT comment came from. I try to make mental notes of those. Not very many or them on here that I have seen, which is nice and the only reason I stay. Best comment section on any platform. You enjoy your day tomorrow too!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you!

Yes same here. I really don’t post anywhere else for the most part. I really like the community and people here on C&C the most, overall.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

There are some people who need to be ignored. They look for opportunities to be negative or demeaning. They aren’t even worth responding to! I enjoy your comments Running Logic!

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RunningLogic's avatar

That is so kind of you to say, thank you Julie Ann B!! 🥰

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

You can mute them by clicking their name and “...” at top right corner. Useful for trolls.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you for the reminder, I always forget about that option!

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Sherry 1's avatar

Have to say, your Memes are hysterical, my husband cannot read his book b/c I keep laughing out loud and reading/showing them to him! Awesome work. 🤣🤣🤣

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Bonz's avatar

Hysterical sites, and so so sad! It's FOR REAL.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

I'm trying to figure out how passengers on the plane felt uneasy about the wheel falling off when it happened. How does a passenger see what's happening below and behind them? Maybe you hear an odd noise, similar to landing gear retracting, even feel a little vibration like landing gear folding. But most of those sounds have a motor responsible for them. If lug nuts are loose and a wheel slides and then falls off how much noise and vibration could accompany that? And how would a passenger know what it was?

Maybe they were uneasy when they later learned what happened. But that sure sounds like a writer's dramatic license.

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My Favorite Things's avatar

I’d like to hear about the landing.

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taxpayer's avatar

Plane was diverted to Los Angeles and landed safely. Reportedly, there's enough redundancy that loss of one wheel isn't disabling. https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/united-airlines-plane-loses-wheel-after-takeoff-in-san-francisco/ar-BB1jz74m

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TB's avatar

Passenger planes tend to have 8-12 wheels on the main landing gear, so can survive and land ok with one (or probably even two) falling off or going flat. Just pray the nose gear doesn't fall off...

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The Keys's avatar

So much gets left out of reporting. In the one story where the plane engine started on fire, passengers were in the air for a full 15 minutes, and the plane nosedived for a short time. It was terrifying for them.

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

Plane lands super hard on the ground, terrorizing passengers.

Flight attendant comes on the speaker:

"Ladies and gentlemen, we just want you to know that this horrible landing was not the fault of the pilot.....................and it was not the fault of the co-pilot..................the only option being of course, it was the "asphalt"."

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CStone's avatar

Or was it the ‘ass’s fault’?

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RunningLogic's avatar

Was Biden piloting??

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Bard Joseph's avatar

This is the captain speaking:

Our wheel fell off. Please fasten your seat belt.

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AnAmericanStory .'s avatar

Just like the Western World : The wheels are falling off!

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Michael Framson's avatar

Bard, just added a bit"

"Our wheel fell off; the President fell again, please fasten your seat belt.

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Carlos's avatar

We are next….

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

They didn’t. It was falsely reported. The pilots didn’t even know until ATC told them. Then pilots told the passengers, who then felt uneasy with 11/12 wheels 🙄

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Now this makes sense to me. No news is reported straight. All of it, every single letter is biased and/or for dramatic effect.

I remember early in 2020-2021 reading up on the bios of the biggest media fear porn scolds, those most often quoted, cited when they were "fact-checking" the truth-tellers. About 75% of them were creative writers, fiction, both their prior work experience and majors in college, if they even went to journalism school. Some had behavioral economics/sciences training, i.e. psychology-informed propaganda. Good luck finding any hard-nosed, 'just the facts' writers out there today. Even covering stories about wheels falling off airplanes. All of them write works of fiction and/or propaganda.

The Enemy of the People, indeed.

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FH's avatar

I wondered same…the engine noise alone is enough to drown out anything but the most jarring of incidents.

In any case, I am avoiding flying as much as possible.

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liz's avatar

same same. no trip is that important!

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WP William's avatar

As to any persons in the parking lot..i wonder if they felt uneasy too?

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Bgagnon's avatar

Good catch ... I suspect you are absolutely right!

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Jackie J's avatar

I once was on a flight that lost hydraulics. I assure we knew-we had to practice the brace position (head tucked used for hard landings) for about 30 minutes while the plane circled above the airport to burn fuel. Out the window we could see several fire trucks and ambulances lined up on the runway ready for service upon landing. To say we were uneasy would be an understatement.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Of course. Nobody had an "unease" until they were told to have unease.

And that's how fear works. Nobody would've feared the 2020 flu unless they were told to fear the 2020 flu. Nobody fears climate change unless they're told to fear climate change. Nobody fears "transgenocide" unless they're told to fear transgenocide. Nobody fears Donald Trump/MAGA unless they're told to fear Donald Trump/MAGA. Nobody fears the other unless they're told to fear the other.

Ignorance can truly be bliss.

Or we can apply critical thinking skills and realize that to be informed of a potential risk needn't result in fear, or even unease. Small data points that can be alarming on their own without perspective are usually what generates fear, unease. Once we learn of other data points that put the seemingly alarming one in perspective we're more able to move forward without fear/unease.

Like had the pilot said "We've lost one wheel in our landing gear. Fortunately they build these with twelve of them. The other eleven are quite capable of doing their job, and we're going to land to pick up our twelfth spare again before we continue on for the rest of our journey."

A little unease/fear? Perhaps. But far less than "we lost a wheel" would generate.

Same thing applies to 2020 flu. Small data points without perspective. A comparison of how many people die of the flu each year, age/health risk clusters would've helped dissipate fear. A comparison of how many people die each year from car accidents. Would've helped dissipate fear. Climate variations throughout earth history; climate variations measured on other planets today that follow the exact same warming/cooling patterns we're experiencing on the earth, noting that the sun's energy output is the only common variable would help dissipate fear.

Yes, I'm using this story as a way to highlight a larger point. That fear is nearly always a product of the unknown. And when those who provide less information than they know and by doing so skew the perceptions of their audience they are engaging in fear mongering. Or its opposite, hyping hope. If we're only are given a small data point without perspective we must immediately be skeptical of the intentions of those providing it. It's what 70-80% of our friends, family, neighbors and colleagues failed to do in 2020, and we're all paying the price for that lack of critical thinking today.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I haven’t flown since 2019 and frankly have a bit of anxiety about flying to Mexico next winter, for a wedding.

My husband has had to fly twice this winter for business, once was after the door incident. It was dicey even getting an Alaska flight, let alone worrying about getting in an airplane. (Alaska flies Boeing). 😳😬

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Our son flew Alaska Airlines just a few days before one of their pilots was found dead in his hotel room. The pilot was supposed to fly that day.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Wow, scary!

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Bgagnon's avatar

😳😬 YIKES!!!

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Try to fly a non-US line. Aeromexico, Emirates. No DEI

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Good idea, I’ll remember that. Unfortunately have to fly to get to Seattle first. Maybe they fly out of Portland and we can drive there.

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TB's avatar

FWIW even with the recent, uhm, "incidents", you're probably still safer on a plane than driving that distance. Traffic fatalities are so common they don't even make the national news.

There, that made you feel better, right? ;)

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Sure, ya, right 🤣 I feel so much better 😉

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YM's avatar

That's what the WEF elites are already doing. It's only a matter of time until there's a crash and all the airline companies obfuscate the real reason for it.

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SadieJay's avatar

Hubs and I were going to start a "Maskless Airlines" back when that was our biggest inconvenience. Before forced medical interventions started taking the lives of passengers and crew and everyone breathing.

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YYR's avatar

Tranny pilots are fine if they qualified under the same requirements as straight white males.

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Bill Jarett's avatar

Only qualify if there is no legitimate psychological testing. By definition they are insane.

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liz's avatar

I have some trans friends who are cool. but they do not support the insane trans lobby either. NO MEN IN WOMENS SPORTS etc.

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AngelaK's avatar

I get it, but deep down there is definitely something off, I don't know if it is psychological or spiritual, or cultural trendy attention seeking, but there is definitely something wrong.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I’m worried about the meds so many of them apparently take 😕 That can’t be safe or good for the body.

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Bill Jarett's avatar

Hormone medication and mental illness are a bad combination. Give a manic depressive steroids and watch out...

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liz's avatar

I think they are out of touch with their feminine side due to cultural conditioning, but so are a lot of people. I dont judge. only when their evil lobby starts getting in the way of REAL BIO WOMEN.

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Roger Beal's avatar

All of the above.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

If women and men can't be on the same sports teams, then same should apply to Police, Fire, and military jobs. At least not at the same pay level.

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TB's avatar

There need to be appropriate physical standards for the role they're hiring, and pay them for the task they're hired for. If you can't meet the physical standards, then apply for a different role with lower standards that pays less. (Unless it's highly technical. Then you might get paid more with less physical standard but higher technical standard.)

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liz's avatar

ok pay women more then, especially if they are sole support for the family.

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liz's avatar

BS.

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Beckadee's avatar

Truth!

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Annie's avatar

And unvaxxed.

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jewel's avatar

Who else feels like this is all set up to keep us plebes from freedom of movement? Most of my friends and fam will no longer fly, either. Agree it started with the mandate, but the assembly and maintenance staff are afflicted too.

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

It is part of the UN’s Agenda 2030 to restrict air travel. This is a planned demolition of the airline industry.

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Stariel291's avatar

I just flew American - nightmare. Seven skinny people involuntarily kicked off the plane because of a weight problem. Honestly think I might just start planning road trips.

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Chelie's avatar

All the above and no DEI hires. Says the mom of a special needs autistic youngster who likes to fly flight simulator programs and fly the planes into the ground on purpose because he thinks it’s funny 😱

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FourWinds's avatar

Yeah... but still won't get on a plane until they get rid of the dog and pony show called TSA.

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Amy Graff's avatar

Wouldn't that be great!

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Kim's avatar

I'd be on that flight, too!

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