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rolandttg's avatar

The absurd trans agenda appears to have another purpose, to prime people to accept, if not commit , atrocities. From Voltaire

Voltaire famously stated, “whoever can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” It is helpful to see the following full quote in which this line appears, to understand the meaning of this oft-cited maxim:

“Formerly there were those who said: You believe things that are incomprehensible, inconsistent, impossible because we have commanded you to believe them; go then and do what is unjust because we command it. Such people show admirable reasoning. Truly, whoever can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. If the God‐given understanding of your mind does not resist a demand to believe what is impossible, then you will not resist a demand to do wrong to that God-given sense of justice in your heart. As soon as one faculty of your soul has been dominated, other faculties will follow as well. And from this derives all those crimes of religion which have overrun the world.”

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

There is definitely some end game with the trans agenda. Not sure what it is but is had already wrecked people in my family. I hate it.

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Special Ted's avatar

The satanic god baphomet is sometimes depicted as a transvestite. You've probably seen the goat-headed abomination with female breasts, holding two fingers pointing up on one hand and two fingers pointing down with the other hand. Many depictions have children standing next to it, as if they are being instructed. Simply put...their god is a tranny.

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CStone's avatar

As is ‘Ishtar’. (Easter). Think of the emphasis on fertility. Baby chicks and bunnies. The word ‘Easter’ was not in the original, even in Greek. The original word is ‘Pesach’. We have been sold a package of UNholy days, rather than the appointed times of the Lord.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

That’s why we Orthodox call it Pascha.

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AngelaK's avatar

As does the Italian, French and Spanish language.

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AngelaK's avatar

I know this but what can we do about it?

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CStone's avatar

Do you celebrate it as Americans do with bunnies and chicks?

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Alexis Kaiser's avatar

Nope. And no colored eggs. Only blood red to represent new life through the blood of Jesus Christ.

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CStone's avatar

Blood red eggs?

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Alexis Kaiser's avatar

Here is a photo from the web of how they look: https://images.app.goo.gl/EbSe8wm5zckchnfP9

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Alexis Kaiser's avatar

Fantastic article! Thanks for sharing. I had to open it in Brave because of the paywall, but Brave fixed that!

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Special Ted's avatar

I do not know if this is true...I've read that 'eggs' in the original pagan rituals were 'dipped in the blood' of those who were sacrificed. Again, I am not an expert on this subject and I welcome correction. God bless you.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

No. We spend time in church following the steps of Jesus.

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daverkb's avatar

This is both interesting and correct. And the Christ story of death and resurrection is parallel the pagan world of idea of crops, and spring as rebirth following winter as death, a fallow time. However, to make too much of Istar would be a belittling of the entirety of Scripture, and the continuity of both the old and New Testaments. To wit, Christianity is not paganism ... and parallelism is not necessarily identity (equivalency). And the Pagan world was intellectually, spiritually, qualitatively different from all of which came before the advent of Christianity.

Christianity is not mere Judaism restored. And although Christianity does stand on the shoulders of the Old Testament, the Crucifixion followed by the Resurrection changes everything. The proof of this fact is to be witnessed in the Apostle Paul's rejection of the Judaizers.

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Special Ted's avatar

daverkb...I love your quote, "Christianity is not mere Judaism restored."

Christianity is Judaism destroyed! The Old Covenant was fulfilled and the New Covenant allows all of us (not just a nation of priests) access to God. I've said it too many times to count...Judaism should have stopped when Christ Jesus fulfilled the Law. That's why God directed the destruction of Jerusalem...to erase the relics of a covenant completed. The Jews were already corrupted when Jesus first came, that's why He called them whitewashed tombs and a den of vipers. It's also why they hated Him and demanded his death, unknowingly assisting in the fulfillment of prophecy. It's a strange parallel to modern Christians who still think that Jews get a free pass on accepting Christ just because of their lineage. I always refer back to 1 John 2:22...Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

For those reading who are still indoctrinated into Zionism, Jews do not believe that Jesus was/is the Christ. In fact, their unholy talmud claims horrible things about our Lord and Savior. This is not new, the talmud was considered 'insider knowledge' and some was created before the First Coming of Christ. If Christians only knew the truth about the talmud, Zionism would be erased. Sadly, less than 10% of Christians will ever investigate this subject.

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daverkb's avatar

Thanks for saying it out loud. And the big question should be, "Who are the real Jews?" No Zionism. Not Talmudic Jews calling themselves Jews? Is it the Orthodox so-called? It it the watered down Conservative, or the even more watered down Reformed Jews? Or is the Money Power the source of all 'Jewishness' by praxis?

The deep the well, the more problematic becomes the question of 'who is a Jew?'

Now the biggest question of all, what do we do with the Judeo-Christians who are led around by a ring through the nose by the Jews 'who say they are but not' Jews?

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Special Ted's avatar

I believe we should focus on the question of 'Who is Jesus' instead of being concerned with genealogies (as Paul instructed in 1 Timothy 1:4). Jesus spoke several times in Scripture about the Jews of His time, and his teachings are enough for me. Only a fraction of the total number of Christians actually read and follow the Bible, and they are ignorant of what it actually teaches. Christ is enough, and He is all we need for salvation. Anyone (Christian or otherwise) who thinks differently is simply wrong. I was wrong on this issue for most of my life, but my ignorance was not greater than my desire to learn the truth. Only the strongest minds can overcome Cognitive Dissonance, especially on this matter. God bless you!

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daverkb's avatar

"Only the strongest minds can overcome Cognitive Dissonance, especially on this matter."

No hyphenated this or that, no divided house ... and only Salvation through Lord Jesus. And the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. And only a fraction read and know, sadly true.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

The Talmud supports 6-8 different genders.

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Special Ted's avatar

Just to be clear...there are plenty of Jewish folks who follow Christ. Some label themselves as 'Messianic Jews', but they are simply Christians. A true follower of Christ does not place themselves into a 'higher category' of Christians due to their biological lineage.

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Carolyn's avatar

Do you not know your history of pagan rites and beliefs being brought in to the Roman religion. The original followers of YESHUA including the apostles and Paul were followers of The Way as Yeshua consistently said HE was. They were called out from the world and were assemblies not churches. You can thank a not so nice king, James, for a lot of word changes in the LORD GOD'S word. Remember all religion other than Judism originated from the Roman Catholic Church which originated from the Roman Empire

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daverkb's avatar

This we know ... and we are not of the Roman cults nor of the Christian Church Roman which was Roman ruling class infiltrated in the early centuries. And I would say that the Reformation was a departure from the corruption of the Roman Catholic Church, and not a reformed extension thereof. And I also would say that the churches in the Collective West with few exceptions are in our time more corrupt than the Catholic Church was five hundred and more years ago. I suppose that this could be debatable until the cows come home, but nonetheless and with no exact metric at hand, I am so inclined in that direction.

And not a fan of the loathsome pervert James the despot. And in agreement I echo the battle cry hurled at the red-coated invaders, "No king but King Jesus."

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RSgva's avatar

German: Oster

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GreaterIsrahell's avatar

Norwegian: Påske

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Chelie's avatar

Which is why prefer to call it the Resurrection of Christ.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

I have seen that. I guess distorting physical reality is part of the deception.

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Special Ted's avatar

Indeed it is. And the deceptive practices of the enemy (Ephesians 6:12) have only gotten worse over time.

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daverkb's avatar

Nor did German National Socialize end with WWII. The Powers That Be have blended both Fascism and Communism into one be anti-Christian Marxist Model. And now there is the UniParty with the more radical party trending towards Communism and full throttle Totalitarianism while the other party trends more towards Fascism and Totalitarianism-Lite. Ideological assumptions in practice are blurred. Both neither party is George Washington ... meaning both parties are constitutional apostate.

In a sense, WWII never ended, it just morphed and continued an evolutionary journey to its now terminal stage of Woke absurdity.

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Vonu's avatar

If the Soviet Union never ended, why have most of its former members joined NATO?

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Mary H.'s avatar

History repeats itself … there is nothing new under the sun.

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Kim D's avatar

Actually, there is the opportunity for change in the way of evolution, but it is personal for each individual soul. Humanity is nearing the ending /beginning of the next Epoch according to Steiner's Anthroposopy.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/earthincarnationsen--9851692917838185/

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Sharon's avatar

everything is done to imbalance. kinda like shaking up a snow globe. only,with humans and other living things in it. pervert and imbalance any good. it's what they do... shows their own true internal state.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

A year ago I was learning and researching what this trans movement is. Now I want to destroy it. There is no compromise in this. I’ve faced it personally and it is pure evil.

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Chevrus's avatar

Trans-SExual

Trans-Humanism

It's one grooming for the other...

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Leo's avatar

Yep - humans as machine-like, that can be "updated" with replaceable parts.

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Sharon's avatar

well, this is their big move, their"moment" if you will. they are "out and proud". be thankful that they are visible and easier to identify, a blessing.

they will be eaten in the end. count on that

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Yea I think this is “coming out month”. Another month of crap.

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Sharon's avatar

I didn't know that 😏

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

I was mistaken. Oct 11 was “coming out day” not the whole month, thank the Lord!

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FourWinds's avatar

Wow, missed that one. What a tragedy! <sarcasm>

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Chelie's avatar

They should call it grooming month.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Amen brother. I remember your story. 🫂

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Chevrus's avatar

Also keep in mind that vat grown humans are 5 years pout and they will be “trans” in the sense that they are likely to be androgynous. So between that and tricking the upcoming generations in to becoming cyborgs its easy to se why the agenda is shaped that way it is.

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Sharon's avatar

if it horrifys the "normal folks", it is done

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Lorie's avatar

First time I heard of this beast. Thx for sharing. Def an ugly, twisted looking thing.

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Agent 1-4-9's avatar

The family is the most powerful unit of civilization. If you would remake civilization, you must remake the family. That goes both ways, for good or evil purposes.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Yes. I used to think we elected people who also had families and would pass laws supporting families. I was wrong.

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Kelli's avatar

I would love to see perspectives on what happens when evil has invaded the family structure. For instance, a pedophile father, who raped his daughter (and others) for years. The mother wouldn't believe the daughter, until much later in life. (Though not me, this is a real life scenario, and I'm sure there are plenty of others.)

There is immense societal pressure for denial, especially when it comes to outing evil in one's home. And the damage done in just the one situation outlined above is incalculable. Daughter survived, married and became a Pagan. Now a Covidiot, not surprisingly. Her brother (beaten most of his life) ended up in juvie for a year, then dead due to his life lived as a death wish. I could go on, but you get the idea.

Every historical international tyrant figure grew up *somewhere.* Likely in a family situation. Psychopaths start their behaviors young. People saw.

Was it disrespectful to say dad/uncle/friend was killing animals? Was it impolite to notice nefarious behavior? What do we do when sick individuals are raising children, or are the ones being raised??

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Good questions. I suspect we’ll never know these things though. In our case, her mom cheated on me when she was 1 and we split. Judge gave her custody and I had visitation rights... the law is biased against fathers getting custody.

She raised her and I am not aware of any abuse. I did ask in counseling and she said there was none. I don’t really know.

I suspect the trans ideology appeals to people who are hurting and depressed. It’s a way to deflect and blame without taking responsibility. At least that’s what I experienced as a father in counseling with an adult child.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

I know of a case where a daughter was insanely overprotected as a child, because her mother was convinced the daughter had life-threatening allergies to everything.

Now the daughter says she is a boy. I think it's a kind of revenge for the hell her mother made her life. I also doubt the daughter really has any serious allergies.

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Just Comment's avatar

A ready made dedicated angry Woke mob to further destabilize society?

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Back in 2016 after all the Trump election protest, I realized many of the “protestors” are paid activist. They are definitely being used to destabilize.

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Annie's avatar

That are delusional and mentally ill.

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CStone's avatar

Spiritually ill

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AL's avatar

Probably poisoned over time. You can't talk someone into being trans. They'd like us to think its the messaging but this is primal stuff. Try being gay if you're straight or vice versa--just not possible. This is an attack on our bodies through our environment (food, water, vaccines).

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Something is definitely changed because there where ZERO trans when I graduated school. It’s trendy and fun for some to play with. Pretending isn’t hard after your thoughts go there and that leads to doing. That’s why there’s also the de-trans movement.

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AL's avatar

I was just talking about this to a friend-we both grew up during the 70s and 80s. Not a single trans. Transvestites on Hollywood Blvd. here and there, but none anywhere else.

I guess I can see the social influence factor, especially with teens who are confused, withdrawn and obsessed with their new libidos... but we all went through that and I don't think you could have convinced ANY of us to go against our own primal desires. That was a strong force which makes me think this is about more than messaging. But then again, young kids who are sexually molested can very much cross over to the other side from trauma. Without that, it would necessitate an advanced level of grooming.

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CStone's avatar

It is definitely demonic

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

It wasn’t offered in society as a valid alternative back then. It just wasn’t in our thoughts.

I personally don’t think it has to do with food or drugs, but rather exposure to deviant sexual behaviors in movies, online porn, and social media.

Kids and young adults are especially vulnerable because most of them want to fit in and belong to a group. This has become a way to gain positive attention, and affirmation from a mob of online cheerleaders and friends.

They’ve been conditioned not to criticize anything having to do with deviant sex. If they want it, they get it because it’s “their truth”.

Peer pressure to conform is the most influential thing in teen years. They accept it and participate in affirming it because that’s what is expected in their peer group.

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AL's avatar

What you say really makes sense and I am not an expert. I guess even my teenage self wouldn't relate but you are right, these are different times.

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Annie's avatar

Called grooming and parents going along with the BS.

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MaryAnn's avatar

A young woman friend of mine became discouraged about the derth of eligible males to date and decided to try women… A fling with high drama, clinging, and gay agenda issues lasted about 2 weeks. Back to being straight. 😳

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MaryAnn's avatar

*dearth 🤪

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Bridget T's avatar

I’m pretty sure it’s paid for by big

p-harma. The more they can get on hormones the better for them, right? A lifetime customer

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Cowgirl Dee's avatar

You know…I really don’t understand the whole hormone thing. If they feel so much like a girl? Why do you need the medical enhancement boost?

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

My experience with family is that the therapist directs them to do it, then sets an appointment with the doctors. Insurance pays for it. The poor people are desperate and hopeless. This gives them hope.

There is major depression involved in many cases. It’s terribly sad and they are being manipulated.

The systems we live under are corrupt.

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Jen's avatar

It's awful, I was just reading about this. There are doctors thankfully now speaking out about it...I think I was reading about a book by Mirriam Grossman. She is reporting about how shocked she was when she first realized this movement and how out of control it was. They're preying on people who are depressed and selling this as the quick fix cure. They say these hormones are totally safe and the effects are reversible - both are complete lies. They say the surgeries are reversible - who would believe that? They are sterilizing people. The article was really good, it gave a lot of tips for talking to kids about this in advance so we can prevent them from buying into this ideology and becoming victims themselves. We've started the conversations with ours.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Yes it’s freakish how healthcare workers are participating. I’ve learned the money comes from billionaire investors who expect a return on investment. Bezos. Musk. Many others. It is heavily funded.

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Jen's avatar

Musk? That's awful, I didn't know he was involved in this. So weird because he posts against this on Twitter. He says any adult who participates in the mutilation of a child should be thrown in jail. So he's saying one thing and doing another?

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

He funds transhumanism research which blends semiconductors with biology. Implanting electronics and machines to take over or enhance normal human function. I personally place that in a similar category as transitioning a human into something they were not born as (sexually).

As for what Musk says, yes he’s outspoken against “child” trans. But he funds transitioning adults into cyborgs.

So I place him in the trans funding camp because that money gets funneled all over the trans playground.

Child or adult, we should not “trans” people into something they are not and pretend it is normal and right.

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Jen's avatar

Good point, I hadn't thought of it like that or even really made that connection between the two. I tend to agree, I am very uncomfortable with this implanting of electronics into humans. I have never liked this side of Musk, and it causes me to be skeptical of him, even when he seems red-pilled at times.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Yep, I’m right with you there.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Musk speaks out against transing because he has a son, Xavier, who wants to be known as Vivian.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Chloe Cole said it best. "Puberty isn't a disease to be treated with drugs".

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Jen's avatar

Exactly right!

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

So their “outside can match their inside.”

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Peter GL's avatar

good point

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Momcat's avatar

what I don't get is that it's ok to put a man on estrogen for life because he wants to pretend he's a girl, but when I needed estrogen to get over menopause quicker, I was told I could only take it for a short time because of the CANCER risk of taking it indefinitely. is p-harm-u just trying to get rid of a backlog of estrogen or is it NOT a cancer risk???

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Yea sorry they gave you the run around. We’re in clown world. Now we’re forced to bypass traditional healthcare to find ways to take care of ourselves. Like the old days.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Now they are coming out with studies saying that estrogen is good and protects one from cancer. Are we going to now flip flop for years like they do with coffee and eggs? Good for you one week, bad another.

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AL's avatar

Yes, more and more evidence that the cancer scare was a lie. They like to maim women by cutting off their breasts, they don't want them being powerful, beautiful and healthy.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Yes, very true. They hate women because they know we are strong and smart too! And like you said powerful, beautiful and healthy!

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FourWinds's avatar

And more money, of course. Can't have a healthy person or a biological woman out there that is a woman (of course), now can we? Can't charge them anything.

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AL's avatar

Yes, the kitty needs to be fed. They can't do this without money.

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Momcat's avatar

when I first went on it, it was OK, then they changed a couple of months in & said it does cause cancer. probably saying that so guys on it won't be worried. smh!

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Ha, probably! If guys were meant to take estrogen they would have been born with it!

Bio T is a good one. Check it out.

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N Springer's avatar

Bio identical progesterone is better. You probably have plenty of estrogen socked away in your tissues. You can buy progesterone cream over the counter. Just have to dose high enough to overcome the effects of it “waking up” estrogen receptors. Bio progesterone is totally safe, no cancer or blood clot risks.

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Momcat's avatar

I should have been more specific- I had a full hysterectomy that caused immediate menopause, so didn't need progesterone, just estrogen. it was great for the few months I took it, would like to have stayed on it longer, but no one would prescribe it.

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axons007's avatar

I'm on it. Extremely easy to get. Multiple places will prescribe. I don't go thru my PCP because I don't trust them after COVID. Find telemedicine homeopathic Dr. Revitalized Health is who I use.

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Peter GL's avatar

I'm a guy nor am I a doctor, so forgive my ignorance, but if estrogen supplements are steroids, and steroids are generally banned in sports, how is it possible to allow trans men filled with estrogen to compete in women's sports?

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

It’s still a risk but they don’t care.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I love that...p-harma! Could we go a step further...p-harm-u or would it lose its affect?

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Celayne Jones's avatar

Until the hormone recipient develops heart trouble and dies.

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Bridget T's avatar

Right. Or cancer

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Kim D's avatar

Also the artificial food/chemicals and plastics that are hormone disrupters contribute greatly to this phemonena.

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Tami’s Table for Wellness's avatar

I’m thankful every day that our 3 sons and many nieces and nephews haven’t bought the lie of the trans movement

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Keep praying. My 30 year old succumbed.

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Tami’s Table for Wellness's avatar

I’m so sorry-- did you see it coming at all?

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

She separated from family relationships for a years and then popped back up to say she’s a man. It’s a ridiculous costume. Did counseling together but the therapists and brain-washing social circle she was in had already done the damage.

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Tami’s Table for Wellness's avatar

I’m so sorry. That sounds awful- how do you address your child now? Is it hard to go along?

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

The name is something I will not compromise on. I named her. I changed her diapers. She’s a girl.

I cannot call her a man’s name so I avoid using names at all when speaking to her. To others I still use her real name and will never stop.

We saw a non-state license Christian counselor for several months when she first announced this. It was helpful but we could not resolve the gap between our life approach.

Referring to her is a challenge.

The whole pronoun thing is similar. It’s a method to control. Even the Christian counselor used her preferred name and pronouns. They all give in to this fake lie.

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Jen's avatar

wow, I'm so sorry you're going through this. Must be so painful to see your child fall into this misery trap.

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Raptor's avatar

It certainly breaks down fundamental social structure, pits people against one another, distracts and is a sure money maker for those who like to practice of human mutilation. And It goes against how God set up his world for us. All in all it could not be more delicious for the wicked among us. Their father is not our Father.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Very articulate way to describe it!

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Jen's avatar

very accurate.

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Raptor's avatar

It is interesting that there are other people with mental illness where we don't cater to their delusion. People that believe their arm is gangrenous and want it chopped off. Do we do it? No. Not yet. This trend of mutilating genitals is has a darker agenda than meets the eye. A great way to stop creation of human life and tearing apart what was given to us for our good.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Yes there does seem to be multiple motives for it. None are for good as far as I can tell.

I’ve also considered this movement against other mental illness and came to the same conclusion as you.

I gave up when the American Psychological Association adopted their stance on gender dysphoria as something to affirm.

Any state licensed therapist, psychiatrist, psychologist, is suspect now. Stay away from them.

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AL's avatar

It's a diabolical racket. They start with the captured medical complex and it trickles down from there.

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CMCM's avatar

I wonder if this mutilation is somehow related to the reasons some people cut themselves. Mental illness, of course.

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Raptor's avatar

Well CM2 I woke up pondering your musing here. I had a friend in HS that cut herself. She said it was to feel something (generally speaking AND she was only 16). I also have a female relative that is living as a man. I don't think I or anyone else outside her spouse will know her reasons. I know they were valid to her. But I am pretty sure mental illness plays a majority role. Sadly, the left has made it very difficult to treat them in honesty with real help. WHY that is happening occasionally keeps me up at night. Al up above us here is right. Diabolical.

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CIAheartsKGB's avatar

The money for it comes from tech transhumanists, literally the "Singularity" people. A journalist named Jennifer Bilek has done a great job mapping it out: https://youtu.be/eNq7dYOdQyQ?si=vb-41ETWiR5Td2AU

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Wow! I had thought of this trans movement as a world government plot to destroy western civilization, like the Fed started weaponizing drugs in the 60s.

But no.

Freak billionaires are investing in Trans, as an investment! They are destroying us for profit.

Should have known.

Just follow the money.

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Peter GL's avatar

you said it, FREAK BILLIONAIRES

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

I chose that word on purpose because I believe it.

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CMCM's avatar

It's virtually always about the money if you follow it. None of the players in any of this have even a speck of altruism.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

“They are researching how to implant wombs into men so they can give birth.”

Disgusting

Thank you for sharing this link. So much information from a researcher in a few minutes.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

As if THAT can happen.... too many other body parts and functions involved...

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Raptor's avatar

We should pass a law that any implanted baby into male bodies need to be delivered thru the same hole they pee out of. You know, for the full experience of childbirth. The thing they crave.

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Raptor's avatar

For their own good. For science.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

LOL ouch. Men who want this don’t know what they’re doing. Women are way tougher for that pain :)

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CMCM's avatar

Ha ha! That's what I said to my husband the other day! 😆

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Yea, It’s all fake. Delusional. The repercussions are unknown but predictably dire.

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Raptor's avatar

I saw it is the Chinese and Israelis doing to mucking about with 2 male fertilization, making wombs... I am not generally shocked by what the Chinese are willing to do since ethics doesn't rank high, but Israel? Confounding. So so far away from their father. Pretty sure it violates the spirit of any covenant their forefathers made.

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CMCM's avatar

I'm not a doctor, but I would bet everything I own that this cannot happen. It doesn't mean they won't wreck many lives in trying it, however.

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Raptor's avatar

Seems to be they might want to start with something small like a squirrel. Just... deliver it fast dudes. Two tempting monster sized nuts right out the pseudo birth canal might get a little dicey. Or maybe just go ahead and lop them off. After all, you are trying to be women.

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Annie's avatar

It's evil and another method to cast down more of its followers. Evil hates its followers.

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JSR's avatar

If you don’t know who you are and where you came from you are much more easily controlled

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AL's avatar

There may be a simple explanation: Chemicals, including one specific, Atrizine --a Monsanto pesticide is said to have been disseminated ubiquitously in food, water and vaccines changing the gender of our bodies permanently--from the ground up. The messaging is nothing more than an attempt to normalize this internal disfigurement--even to "celebrate" it--and to discourage any negative discussion to the point of criminalizing such discussion, so that the atrocity is not unveiled. If we think this is progress and inclusivity as opposed to mass poisoning and medical experimentation, we are once again psy-opped into a false narrative.

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Heather Candy's avatar

☹️💔🙏

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Just Comment's avatar

Most practical explanation for the TRANS Movement : Depopulation.

Lots of money are going into buying the media, schools, advertisement, politicians, .....

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

I have pondered this quite a bit. Could it be that besides breaking up the nuclear family, sacrificing & sterilizing our children that, if the chatter about “Big Mike” is true & they are planning on him running for president, the trans agenda is being normalized? Hmmmm...

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Noël King's avatar

David Icke says the ultimate purpose for the trans push is to “confuse gender in order to fuse gender,” i.e., to get rid of gender altogether as part of the transhuman agenda.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Makes sense based on what I’ve heard musk say.

If thinking in terms of good and evil, the Bible says we are made in Gods image, male and female. The male/female relationship is somehow representative of how God relates.

So, what more motive would a Satan need to destroy the distinction of male and female?

Destroying that is by default destroying God’s creation and the representation of spiritual relationship.

Makes sense.

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Michele's avatar

Baphomet is a trinity, male, female and animal. Draw your own conclusion.

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Vonu's avatar

They were probably already wrecked.

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SeeingTruth's avatar

"Crimes of religion" - makes me think of the covidians portraying Fauci as a god.

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Annie's avatar

Many worship and set their focus and beliefs in false gods. Some are pharma and pharmaceuticals and other are worldliness and worldly possessions like money etc. And while those areas in themselves are not per se evil, it is the way they are put first before God and sometimes excluding God all together that is the problem. Get right with The Lord 🙏❤️✝️

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

I recall an article from back in 2021 where the author very creatively pointed out that Covid had created its own dogma. Mask wearing and vaccine uptake had become sacraments. (The author found Covid equivalents to the Seven Sacraments of Roman Catholicism). People like Birx and Hotez were bishops. Fauci was the Pope. The article would have been funny had it not been in fact true.

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Annie's avatar

I am surrounded by their believers. 😐

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Raptor's avatar

Do you know how many of your neighbors are still taking communion?

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Annie's avatar

No. But several of the practicing families were on board and fully compliant with the covid shots and protocols. They were fine with it.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

Anecdotally, I read a Linkedin article on the whole 'work from home' topic. One guy mentioned in a comment how he's still afraid to return to his office due to Covid fears despite being thrice baptised.

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Annie's avatar

Sadly I can believe it. 😐

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Interesting. Please share the article if you can find it.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

Sadly, I can't find it using less controlled search engines although I believe it was a series of tweets. There is also this one: https://twitter.com/prof_freedom/status/1491373716999409666

I found another one from December 2020 that makes similar points regarding the quasi-religious aspect: https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/views/coronavirus/covid-is-the-new-religion-and-that-is-the-gospel-truth

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FourWinds's avatar

"As soon as one faculty of your soul has been dominated, other faculties will follow as well. " Nailed it! Once doubt is allowed to creep in, there it is. Doubt can become fear. Fear can become panic, which leads to all sorts of negative outcomes. Similarly, I think once a person concedes to one small thing someone else wants, it opens the door to more small concedes. It's hard to fight it all, but I'm planning on keeping my mental door shut to those who want me to believe anything I know is not right.

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Sharon's avatar

you wear your armor everywhere,at all times it'll keep you safe. the spiritual part of you, always awake, always in contact

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Raptor's avatar

Especially the sword of the spirit. God's Word. The Bible. If you read it every day, it keeps the line of communication open and protects you from any headway the evil one attempts to make with you.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Great quote and great comment!

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Copernicus's avatar

Wow.

This is powerful.

Because exactly what they did during The Plague was make people believe what was impossible - I’ll not delineate here because we all know The Things.

They demanded people deny their God-given reasoning. Like all good abusers do. And then they commanded we do unthinkable atrocities. Like injecting ourselves with experimental gene therapies, for one. And it appears more and more like that was perhaps the least of the things they want us to do.

God, open the eyes of those made blind. Bring freedom to those held captive. And soon.

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WP William's avatar

Lucifer Effect at work Globally instead of in prisons, gang turf fights, etc

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Diana (Somewhere in Maryland)'s avatar

The big mystery is why are the "educated" so easily led into believing absurdities? Shouldn't they know better? Covid showed me.. definitely not.

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William's avatar

because they are "credentialed", not educated.

There is a strong bias in academia to trust experts in other fields. It's turned the entire enterprise into a confidence game.

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Jenn's avatar

Because of pride. Their pride in their own self blinds them. The irony is not lost on me. They think they are smarter than those that did not fall for the lies. I am very, very thankful God kept my eyes open and my brain functioning during these past few years.

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Peter GL's avatar

they don't want to be "left out" by their "cool enlightened friends"

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Verve's avatar

Great post rolandttg - and to add 1 Corinthians 10:29, second sentence: "For why should my freedom be determined by someone else's conscience?" Being forced to accept absurdities under the guise of "values."

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Kelli's avatar

Holy Cow - that's a great Voltaire quote. Saving...

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Elaine Elias's avatar

This is magnificent! Voltaire understood the mind

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Stephanie's avatar

We are Babylon

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Jenn's avatar

I feel like this is a true statement.

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Sharon's avatar

🤔 something like a pesedent has been set; therefore everything demanded afterward is a "given?"

once the doors are breached, the rest of the castle will fall. shrewd, yes?

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Y'all should watch this. "Kabbalah mysticism and magic repackaged as "science"." This is an amazing observation.

https://youtu.be/Zc_J2k4Cdp8?si=0z6eBMlAiq_q5uMz

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Kratoklastes's avatar

The text you've cited is easily identified as a translation of part of from Letter XI in "Collection des Lettres sur les Miracles: Écrites a Geneve, et a Neufchatel" (1765)

The translation is effectively a misquotation; in the original, Voltaire makes no mention of "atrocity", but rather "injustice".

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Certainement qui est en droit de vous rendre absurde, est en droit de vous rendre injuste.

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I am very fond of Wor. Bro. Arouet, but like Diderot he gets credit for things he never writ.

Diderot never said "Man will never be free until the last King is strangled with the entrails of the last priest" - but he DID say (in translation)

"If mankind dared to listen to his heart

It would say to us, as it would to the animals of the woods:

«Nature created neither servant nor master;

I want neither to serve, nor to rule.»

And its hands would plait priest's entrails,

for want of a rope with which to strangle kings".

Meslier's posthumous "Testament" (1729) is the likely original source of the priest's-guts-to-strangle-kings - he recounts an interaction with a ordinary French villager, in which Meslier gets the impression (translated to English)

"His wish was that all the rulers of the earth and all the nobles be hanged and strangled with the guts of priests.".

The writer 'Alain' (a pseudonym) wrote one of my favourite quotations, which ends really really 'on point' in French (and is pretty good in English too):

"The most obvious trait of the Just Man is that he has no desire whatsoever to rule others, and wishes only to govern himself. That decides everything. We may as well say THE WORST WILL RULE."

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daverkb's avatar

And they are trying to 'normalize' atrocities. Examples are, euthanasia, after birth abortion, genital mutilation, C19 murders and maimings as the health of the nation, DEW weapon scorching presented as just acts of nature, and so on.

In the Woke Marxist Death Culture ... death, destruction, terror, atrocities ... all normal so long as the cover narrative is presented as being 'believable'.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

“Instruct those who are rich in this present world not to be conceited or to fix their hope on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who richly supplies us with all things to enjoy. Instruct them to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share, storing up for themselves the treasure of a good foundation for the future, so that they may take hold of that which is life indeed.” 1 Timothy 6:17-19 NAS1995

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

“Fix our hope on God…take hold of that which is life indeed.” 🎯

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I can’t wait for Jeff’s C&C wisdom every day but then i immediately look for God’s truth that you share, Janice! I’ve been so blessed by both you and Jeff! Thank you!

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Robin Esau's avatar

This verse is such a timely reminder. Thank you, Janice!

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Christy's avatar

Yep. The us didn’t vote bc “they” need to make more money.

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jean's avatar

Thank you faithful and dependable Janice. Love, Jean

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Mark York's avatar

My brother is IN Israel and he works directly with high-level Israeli government officials. Some of them he's had personal friendships with for almost 2 decades. That's 20 years for the Portland folks!! He called yesterday and said an "UNPRECEDENTED" number of Heads of State are "visiting" Israel. Attempting to make backroom deals for ... well, whatever they think they can get out of this tiny, insignificant piece of real estate deeded to some low-level ex-slaves centuries ago...before they even had written records (I totally made that part up...The Jewish people have IMMACULATE written records dating back before even the now defunct Feingold...er...Feinstein was hatched!)

BIGGEST news for me and likely many of yall...The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is talking about allowing up to 1,000,000 (1 MILLION)...unvetted Palestinians into the Land of the Free...And I say WHY NOT? They all really deserve a big family reunion with their MILITARY AGED BROTHERS already living here and enjoying the finest hotels and high security in NY City! After all, they need some time to get their grease guns greased up and working properly before they hit the highways!

All parodiness aside...CALL YOUR CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES. EMAIL THEM. GO DOWN TO THEIR OFFICES. LET THEM KNOW YOUR FEELINGS ON THIS MATTER!!! DO IT NOW!

AND...Let me know when and where the gathering is.

God Bless Us Every One!!

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rolandttg's avatar

Listened to a 25 minute interview yesterday with David Mahoney and Nicholas Vienamin. Mahoney said UK hotels are being filled with military age young men, no kids, no women. Sound familiar? British military has been observed by former military surreptitiously observing these hotels delivery crates, boxes, and packages . The owners/ managers are told not to touch them. One owner has a friend who told him you are responsible for anything on your property, and for all you know, it could be bombs, biological agents, or who knows, so you better look. He did. Uniforms, AK 47's , RPG's, etc, , individually packaged and addressed to each of the "guests" in the hotel. When they issue instructions for more lockdowns, forced jabs, or whatever, and the people say we've seen this show before, so NO., the British military likely (possibly?) won't fire on them. Think these Africans/ muslims/ wherever they came from immigrants won't fire either?

Does anyone honestly believe the same show is not going on here in the US?

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Politico Phil's avatar

In the US... even worse. The communist Bolsheviks in Washington are bussing illegals to interior camps for training and weaponizing. When the Bolsheviks are ready they will unleash these new "brown shirts " and shock troops upon America. It may be too late but there is only one candidate who has the ability and the will to fight this and you know who I am talking about. The Nazis and the Bolsheviks will do ANYTHING to keep him out of office. The Bolsheviks, meaning Obama, will not willingly leave office.

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Peter GL's avatar

remember when GW Bush took over the Clinton staff removed all the "W"s from the typewriters? Otherwise, "they" were the enlightened, adults!

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Laura Barrett's avatar

Do you have proof? Asking as a fellow Washington resident....

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Tracy's avatar

Geez. Who needs proof anymore. It seems everything being said in comments everywhere is coming true. Tongue in cheek but I personally believe almost everything now.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I meant Washington DC

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

I'm sure it's happening in Washington state, as in most all other states, too.

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Ellen's avatar

Have you been to a Costco lately????

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

71% fleeing via the Mediterranean sea are men, 18.7% are classified as children - however it's not stated whether this includes male teenagers, there are also many cases of them lying about their age. Contrast this to Ukraine where it's mostly women and children.

https://data2.unhcr.org/en/situations/mediterranean

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Africa has child soldiers...so even younger men are dangerous and deadly.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Especially when they’re drugged and brainwashed 😕

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on the doss's avatar

In Ireland 48% of Ukrainians are single men.

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Freebird's avatar

Will our 2nd amendment make a difference?

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FourWinds's avatar

I sure think so!

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Freebird's avatar

Yep. If an incident of this kind happens on US soil, I expect the cowboys will show up.

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Jo's avatar

@rolandttg, apparently those two people have done several interviews together. Can you provide a link to the particular one that you're referring to?

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Peter GL's avatar

But but but don't the lefties want to outlaw guns? How could they possibly use them

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Ellen's avatar

100 percent correct. They will kill us and take our property once the order is given. Just like in Rwanda when the order was given that the “tall trees” must fall.

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Scott Kinghorn's avatar

I've already emailed my Congressman Don Bacon about the invasion at our Southern border. So I'm sure if I emailed him about not letting 1,000,000 Palestinians into the USA it'll fall on deaf ears. I'd like to see Bacon lose reelection but I'm sure a crazy Democrat will just take his place. He represents the Omaha area.

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Mark York's avatar

email him anyway!!! it's volume that matters to those guys, not content

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RunningLogic's avatar

Better yet, call!!

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Sarah Bee's avatar

😩 I can’t hardly take this. We are already seeing crazy stuff happening here - Long Beach, CA had two separate incidence of rampage drivers into Kohl’s & pedestrians last weekend

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Oh Lord no! Not good!

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E.Z. Prine's avatar

It's not an insignificant piece of real estate. The occupied Palestinian land sits on a massive oil and gas field and Israel has been preventing the Palestinians from exploiting the rights while exploiting them itself. Short article here --https://unctad.org/news/unrealized-potential-palestinian-oil-and-gas-reserves

Remove the Palestinians to the Sinai, US, etc and the field is clear for Israel, US, and chosen partners to exploit the oil and gas to their heart's content.

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CStone's avatar

‘Occupied’ by the so-called ‘Palestinians’. Arabs who should NOT be in Israeli territory.

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E.Z. Prine's avatar

Having visited both Gaza and the West Bank, the people there are indeed Palestinians who have lived there for many many generations.

Legally, according to international law and agreements, it is indeed their territory. If you dispute that, I would suggest arguing your case in international court.

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Peter GL's avatar

Visited East Jerusalem back when it was still part of Jordan. Met some Greeks there who were living there for generations from during the Ottoman Empire. Does that make East Jerusalem Greek? And what of Turkish Occupied North Cyprus. Does that make it Turkish? Not to mention the European colonization of the Americas. Or does might make right?

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Special Ted's avatar

Almighty God is the one who displaced Jews from the territory (Israel). Giving the territory back to Christ-haters was an act of defiance to a Holy God. Jesus called the (religious) Jews whitewashed tombs and a den of vipers. And they are still the same Synagogue of Satan today. Revelation 2:9 and 3:9

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Explained in Romans 2:28; Phillipians 3:3; 1 John 2:18, 22-23;

1 Thess 2:14-16;

https://youtu.be/_a3_AQKuHBA?si=OPxLm8y3Oa9cbiB6

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E.Z. Prine's avatar

Your point is not clear to me, so I welcome further clarification. What exactly are you arguing, and how does it relate to the Israeli-Gaza situation?

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Peter GL's avatar

Above you wrote: "Palestinians who have lived there for many many generations. Legally, according to international law and agreements, it is indeed their territory." So Greeks living in Jerusalem for generations can call it "their territory"? Europeans having come to America call it "their territory"? Seems the same as Palestinians living there call it "their territory".

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E.Z. Prine's avatar

I'm sorry, you seem to be questioning the use of the term "territory" for some reason. My point perhaps badly made is that they didn't just seize the land (as American settlers did) or have it granted to them and then take it over, but were already living there (and had been for generations) before it was divided into Israel and Palestine, and that the state of Palestine has been recognized by most nation-states as a legal entity.

Are you arguing for the dismantling of all nation-states that have come about as the result of forceful acquisition or colonial partitioning? Because if that's the case, both Palestine and Israel would have murky claims, not to mention the US, Australia and quite a few other countries established in recent centuries.

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Peter GL's avatar

Would you prefer Greeks living in Istanbul, formerly known as Constantinople, formerly known a Byzantium which was established by Greeks in the 7th century BC?

I'm not in favor of any dismantling anything, only of politicians and "leaders" not inflaming the populace. A friend recently reminded me that Gold Meir had said that the war will end only when the Palestinians start loving children more than they hate the Jews

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CMCM's avatar

How do you feel about the creation of Pakistan and displacement of the Hindus who lived there? Are you OK with that one?

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E.Z. Prine's avatar

Sorry, CMCM, but I know very little about that situation and don't feel confident saying anything about it. I only commented on this situation because I've actually visited Gaza and the West Bank, have discussed it with Jewish and Arab colleagues, and have taken a course in the history of the conflict. So I am not making a larger point beyond this particular circumstance. But if you'd like to be more specific about what you see as the issue, I would welcome that.

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Peace's avatar

Mark York - do you have any articles or references we could send along to our legislators regarding he possibility of the 1 Milliion to the USA?Thanks!

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Head of the NSC is Palestinian and a Hamas sympathizer. So yea, why not let them in? What’s another million? 🤬

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Super Happy's avatar

God Bless you for sharing this vital Intel. I'll be contacting my rep ASAP!!

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Time to place another AK and amo order... :(

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Politico Phil's avatar

https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/p/giardasil-vaccine-microscopy-by-dr

Former major city police detective reveals 50% of SIDS cases happened within 48 hours post vaccine

https://kirschsubstack.com/p/former-major-city-police-detective

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Sunnydaze's avatar

And yet no one said a word 🤫. Why for decades didn’t any parents correlate this? I never once heard this happened post vaccine during the 80’s and 90’s. All I ever heard was “we don’t know why it happens. There’s no cause.” 🙄

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Karkar's avatar

I saw it,, and spoke widely to friends. I also openly co slept because I knew it didn’t cause sids and was best for breast feeding the littles and me getting sleep.

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Sarah's avatar

Yes! Me too! I loved Mothering magazine. Still have old copies.

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Karkar's avatar

Yes me too! I treasured those and then the forums later...

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Same! La Leche League leader here. I met all my friends in LLL. Loved Mothering mag. Eating whole foods. My favorite books: How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of your Doctor and Goldbecks Guide to Good Food. So happy my daughter is following in my footsteps, still nursing her 2 yo.

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Jen's avatar

If a parent was part of the old mothering.com bulletin board (when there was a print magazine), she often eventually stumbled onto this website and read about this doctor:

http://www.whale.to/vaccines/kalokerinos.html

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Nicki's avatar

Tons of parents did. In the 70s and 80s, when I was young, the majority of our family friends did not vaccinate their kids. And now the next generation is unvaxxed as well. Healthy, happy people.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I’m so sorry I vaxxed my 2 children (in the 80’s) at the advice of my pediatrician. I trusted him and I’m a RN. But fortunately they didn’t have any lasting effects. But now the number of vaxxes has quadrupled and I pray the majority of parents will refuse them.

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Nicki's avatar

I received a DPT when I was 8 weeks old. My parents then declined all. I’ve never received another, nor have my children. You’re so right - at least in the 80s, there were FAR fewer. Glad your kids are doing well!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Experts baffled, yet again… 🙄

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Mark St's avatar

I recall differently during the 80's. Out of seemingly nowhere, SIDS was a big deal in the mid to late 80's. "Experts were baffled" and just couldn't point to a common cause.

Baby monitors (basically a microphone and a speaker) became a hot item for new parents. Don't have your baby sleep in the bed with you was common advice on the news.

No Internet and much more trust in the media back then, so most people just accepted the new reality without that much protest. Those that did were branded as kooks because they had put 2 and 2 together with all of the new vaccines that were introduced at the time.

History doesn't repeat, but the rhyme can be just as devastating.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Many did but we're shunned, mocked and humiliated for doubting those "life-saving" childhood vaccines. A few were even imprisoned under false charges that THEY caused the death of their own children. This treatment continues today.

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Christy's avatar

I saw that!!! So horrible!!!

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Joanne Shannon's avatar

Also known as VIDS.

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BBS's avatar

Biden's going to Israel, but when is he going to the border? East Palestine?

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RunningLogic's avatar

He’s going to the wrong Palestine 😕

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Annie's avatar

Yeah. Give him a glass of their tap water to drink.

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Peter GL's avatar

NO, don't want President Kamala thank you

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Annie's avatar

Send biden to Gaza. He will have plenty of stuff to trip over. But keep the children away for their safety. No child should get the groping and sniffing treatment.

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CMCM's avatar

I'd like to see AOC and friends as well as all those pro-Hamas protestors get dropped into Gaza for a first hand look at things. I also had to laugh at the Queers for Hamas folks....they apparently have no idea what is done to gays in the Arab world.

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Ellen's avatar

Iran has no gays

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FourWinds's avatar

Biden does not care about any American. None. He doesn't even care about the alphabet people - he's just using them.

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Peter GL's avatar

Wrong, he cares about Hunter who makes sure he gets his millions

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FourWinds's avatar

Yeah, I missed that one.

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Notch Johnson's avatar

Am I the only one tempted to skip straight to the comments section? Much as I enjoy C&C, I love the comments just as much. Thank you to Jeff and all the commenters!

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Denise's avatar

Yes , but i dont like to skip Jeff’s analysis. Love his sense of humor and sarcasm. But i do always go right to the comments.

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

Take your time reading the main article, more comments to look forward to ;)

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Shari Ray's avatar

Always, ALWAYS read the comments/smart ppl !!!

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

I wish people with critical Intel would post on the first line rather than having it stuck deep in comments. There’s so much important info in comments from Jeff’s very smart readers! But it’s so time consuming.

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Peter GL's avatar

helps to be retired

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Jon Swenson's avatar

Hungary knows Russia and what to expect.

No one trusts the US government, including its citizens.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Hungary felt the wrath of Russia once before, but now they’re in nato and untouchable to Vlad.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I guess you missed the photo of the leaders of Hungary and Russia in a bromance.

No one is hugging the NATO psychopath leaders.

The West represents woke-ideology and failed liberalism.

And is falling apart before our eyes.

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CMCM's avatar

Everyone who whines about the Palestinians should pay attention to how many fellow Arab nations have offered to take them in: ZERO. None of the Arabs like the Palestinians and they don't want them in their countries. They know they would come with Hamas and they don't want the trouble Hamas always brings. The Palestinians can't even get into Egypt, which is right next door. Egypt closed off the passage into their country.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Why should the Palestinians have to leave their homes?

That just makes Israel's ethnic cleansing easier.

Israel could also leave.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Why hasn't Hungary left nato yet?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

That’s why Hungary has left nato, right?

So far the only psychopath leader is the one who’s troops are killings themselves with hand grenades to avoid the slaughter and end the pain and being sniped by 73mm cannons

https://t.me/couch_iu/44942

Who was it that invaded Hungary in 1956, again?

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Jon Swenson's avatar

It's an enemy they know.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

An enemy they don’t trust enough to leave nato?

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GreaterIsrahell's avatar

You admit your fecklessnes when you compare today's Russia with the Soviet Union. The United States today is a whole lot more like the Soviet Union (read: Marxist).

The same 2% that governed the USSR for 70+ years are the same 2% that have had total control of the district of criminals since 11/23/1963 when LBJ disregarded the FARA act and allowed the Zionist League of America (now AIPAC) to register as a domestic lobbying group.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Russia has admitted publicly they are bringing the gang back together now. They fly the soviet flag and push the "great patriotic war" crap along with lionizing soviet leaders..to which putin is one of them.

Might want to check on your boys in Avdiivka. It ain't going well.

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Dakota Grace's avatar

I was tracking with your comment right up to the point when you brought Zionism into it.

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GreaterIsrahell's avatar

Please explain. Do you not agree that AIPAC and the defamation league have a strangle hold on US politicians from the federal- , state-, county- and all the way down to the municipal level.

You aught to read Paul Findey's book "They Dare To Speak Up". In it he explains in detail how it is done. It was written long before anyone ever heard of Jeff Epstein, or else I am sure he would have been honored with his own chapter in that book.

For your convenience: https://ia902703.us.archive.org/3/items/they-dare-to-speak-out-paul-findley_202307/They_Dare_to_Speak_Out_Paul_Findley.pdf

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No. I think there are globalists all over the world, of all national origins, who have been orchestrating things for a hundred plus years in the US in order to bring about a one world system. They are strategically imbedded in every institution, every government office, every 3-letter agency, medical schools, universities, the public school systems, the media, NGOs, large corporations, banking, and especially in tech companies. The fact that people want to constantly point the finger at Jews, at Zionism, (the true definition of which is just the belief that the Jewish people have a right to their own God-given nation--the entirety of which they’ve never possessed and portions of what they did possess they gave away for peace that never came), claiming that all things are orchestrated by Jewish people, is for one false, and two, a lie from the pit of hell, and three, infuriating to anyone who believes the Word of God.

So forgive me if I stop listening when I see people get so close to the truth about what’s going on in the world, and then stop and point the finger of blame to something to do with the Jewish people.

Are there some of Jewish descent involved, yes, and lots from many European countries, as well.

They all love when Jews, especially, but Christians too, are attacked and blamed for things. They love it because their master Satan loves it.

Anyone who wants to know how this ends, (the world as we know it, that is), need only pick up a Bible.

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GreaterIsrahell's avatar

Come on, Grace! The Rothschilds just-happen-to-be-Jewish.

99% of the owners and board members of the largest financial institutions on the planet just-HAPPEN-to-be-Jewish. Ditto Elon Musk, Jeff Epstein, and so on, and so forth ad infinitum.

That doesn't mean that ALL JEWS ARE BAD PEOPLE? Look at Israel now. It was one of the most compliant countries with respect to the vaxxine. Does the Israeli government give a rats ass about its citizens health? Of course not. They're canon fodder like everyone else.

I'm sorry the trees are blocking your view of the forest.

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Dakota Grace's avatar

99%? Lol. You may want to check those stats.

Does money and success automatically make you evil? Are there any good people who are successful? Do you know any wealthy people in the financial world who are Christian’s for example? Apparently you know 99% of the banking moguls.

Elon Musk is from South Africa, btw. Neither of his parents were Jewish.

I don’t think he’s part of the NWO bunch anyway, at least not yet, but he may very well go that way since he has tech they need and want for their total control of the world.

I’m sorry your antisemitism is blocking your view of facts. Many more people involved in the global cabal are NOT Jewish than those that are.

Hating and blaming Jews for everything is exactly what Satan wants everyone to do. On the other hand, God says: I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you.

I’m siding with God.

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GreaterIsrahell's avatar

Elon Musk is a World Economic Forum Young Global Leaders alumni just like Angela Merkl, Justin Trudeau, Manuel Makron and Vladimir Putin.

Just like you, Caitlin Johnstone accused me of anti-semitism. She banned me, and I wrote her an open letter that I think you should read. If you don't want to read it that's ok, but you loose the right to slander me.

https://greaterisrahell.substack.com/p/open-letter-to-caitlin-johnstone

They hate us all, and they want us dead. ......, but don't take MY word for it. Take it from the horse's mouth. Listen very closely to what she says starting at 49 seconds into this video.

https://www.numberu.com/video/WhenDoWeLeave.mp4

Edit: The other day somebody listed the diferent types of Jews, and one of them was the secular Jew. That's what YOU call them, I replied. I call them the synagogue of Satan. I have no problem with orthodox Jews. It's the Zionist Talmudic Jews that are the problem. You just need to get educated on the difference.

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

What I don't get about the Trump gag orders is how they only apply to him as the defendant (or one of the defendants) but not the prosecution litigating the case in the media through press conferences as well as on Twitter/X. I really don't see a way towards a fair trial other than holding the trial in a tribal area of people without electricity - excluding of course California.

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Yusha's avatar

This is very similar to what was done to AG Paxton (see Tucker's episode with him). I think the strategy is "I can leak everything to the press to talk openly about the prosecution's 'slam dunk' case regarding his gross violations, but he's unable to defend himself in the court of public opinion."

While it didn't work against AG Paxton, it tarnished his reputation and caused him additional stress (and possibly legal fees to fight the additional attacks and influence ops).

Lawfare at it's "finest."

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

And with Trump there were also leaks from the Grand jury in some cases and the very suspicious indictment released before the Grand jury decision in one trial. I think the penalty for a leak should approximate the penalty for a deliberate release of information.

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Annie's avatar

Rinos and the uniparty at work. The swamp needs to be drained and it's creatures removed.

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Peter GL's avatar

In a way that is what Trump's problem is: he didn't drain the swamp

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nt's avatar

That episode highlights why I love multipliers …

You can feel completely helpless…impotent in the face of what’s going on …

But by combining my little voice ($) with others …💪

I have some hope

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Art's avatar

Paxton is Hunter Biden with an (R) after his name. If you don’t want to incinerate your credibility, you might do a little more research on the lifelong criminal.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Teflon Don will win the election.

But will the Deep State allow him in?

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Peter GL's avatar

HELL NO, they won't allow it again

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The more they do to Trump, the more street cred he gets with regular folks.

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rolandttg's avatar

A fair trial is not the objective. Destroying Trump and getting him off the ticket is. Just Us System. No rules, no law, no constitution. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Wow great concept - the jury pool should be amish! To be fair of course....

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Neil Kellen's avatar

Trump may be under a gag order, but his surrogates aren't.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

And all of us have really big mouths.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

deplorably, exceptionally big!

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Dr Linda's avatar

And intestinal fortitude.

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Peter GL's avatar

what fair trial? He has been convicted before he even steps in the courtroom

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CStone's avatar

Why ’excluding California’?

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

Well they might be tribal and they do sometimes have problems with their electrical grid but they still know and dislike the former President.

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CStone's avatar

Ahh......I’m kind of slow on the uptake today.

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Peter GL's avatar

have another cup of Joe (and not Brandon)

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rolandttg's avatar

Marx said there are 3 things that must be done to usher in communism.

1) Eliminate private property. : 15 minute cities, universal basic income, Lahiana, Canadian and CA DEW fires, electric cars, war on gas stoves/generators/water heaters.

2) Eliminate religion. Churches closed for pandemic, Catholics are terrorists, Christians are widely vilified , open satan worship and praise.

3) Destroy the family . Parents who complain to school board are terrorists, transgender insanity, Schools refusing to inform parents about curriculum and all info concerning their own children, drug overdoses everywhere, despair and suicides.

Get it now?

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Kate's avatar

Thanks for the reminder. Far too many do not realize how entrenched the communist ideology is. Property taxes mean you never actually own your home, car “registration” yearly fees - same. Anything worth owning the government has staked a claim without any work on their part - just because. Many churches take government aid and so are afraid to speak Truth. Families who do start on proper footing, i.e. married before they have children, are attacked from every angle - spiritually, morally, financially. The evil is so insidious and pervasive. Fortunately Our Lord is still in control and can work through secondary causes. Pray and be willing to fight for the good whenever you can and fight against the evil whenever and wherever you can. Jesus Christ has already won the war, the battles are for our strengthening. Stay strong fellow C&Cers, we can make a difference.

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Dick Davis's avatar

Biden gong to Israel on Wednesday? Good grief—-why?

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RunningLogic's avatar

I agree. But your typo made me chuckle 😁 The Biden gong—is that to wake him up when he nods off? Or like the gong show, stop him when his absurdity has gone too far?

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Dick Davis's avatar

Freudian typo on my part

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SeeingTruth's avatar

Freudian typos are the best! Everytime I type "shot", I somehow type "shit" instead.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I have the same problem, Seeing Truth. Almost as funny as when I sent my husband a text about my mother shopping with me and my phone changed "coupon" to "condom."

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SeeingTruth's avatar

😅😅😅😅😅

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

I'll bet you received a response from your hubby on THAT text!!

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

Auto-correct may be Skynet!

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randall stoehr's avatar

Keyboard letter proximity has it's shortcomings....or shitcomings.

Dang there it is again....

The Qwerty curse?

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RunningLogic's avatar

I’ve done that too 🤣😆

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Well, the "i" and the "o" ARE right next to each other - happens all the time! 😁

Mrs. "the Knife"

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Ned B.'s avatar

Being caught in a Freudian slip is not nearly as bad as being caught in a Freudian bra

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NAB's avatar

Gosh, I loved the Gong Show!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Me too! 😁

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

So he can stumble, stammer, and announce he’s tired and going to bed...

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

...and poop his pants.

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Raptor's avatar

He only does that among friends.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

He doesn't know that. He thinks he is going to an ice cream parlor.

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WP William's avatar

hoping all were fully and currently completely vaxxinated

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Dick Davis's avatar

Of course, lol

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Annie's avatar

Keep the children away.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

As one commenter put it, obviously Obama told Blinken, “You tell that old pedo to get his ass over there!”

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Politico Phil's avatar

TURBO CANCER: Oncologist: Late-Stage Cancers Are Devastating Students After College Vaccine Mandates

"I've diagnosed probably 20,000 cancer patients in my career. I've never seen cancers behaving like this."

https://joeygilbert.substack.com/p/turbo-cancer-oncologist-late-stage

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FourWinds's avatar

I've mentioned it before, but my mom's best friend died in January from turbo cancer. She was fine mid-October, walking 5 miles a day, immaculate diet, then woke up one morning and could not walk. Cancer everywhere in her body. Nothing anyone could do but call hospice. Jabbed and boosted. Husband doesn't want to hear it, but he had a stroke. Can't connect the dots.

I often feel like I never woke up from a nightmare. I just can't wake up. It all seems like a horrible dream, but it's real.

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Annie's avatar

A cancer diagnosis is never good. But if you got the vaxx, all current protocols and known progress of different types of cancers go out the window. Turbo cancer indeed. A very accurate description.

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M VARR's avatar

Sloan Kettering in Manhattan announced plans to dramatically increase

their capacity in NYC. The jab has been very good for the Cancer industry.

https://patch.com/new-york/upper-east-side-nyc/msk-reveals-plans-new-1-million-square-foot-lenox-hill-pavilion

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Annie's avatar

😡 those ghouls.

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FourWinds's avatar

Soooo much easier to sell billions in "cures" than finding and eliminating the cause. Does anyone know anyone who survived turbo cancer?

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Raptor's avatar

And more profitable. TRY getting an infusion appt as a new patient in a hospital. They are raking in the cash and getting rid of a slice of unwanted humans. Those who say the jab isn't working are dead wrong. IMO. As a person with a brain.

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Annie's avatar

Well they are not dead yet but not doing well either.

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FourWinds's avatar

I'm so sorry to hear that they are not doing well. That's so sad.

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RunningLogic's avatar

So horrible, so sad 😞

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Dr Linda's avatar

This is unbelievably horrible. It’s even unimaginable, however it is undeniably true. I am so very sorry

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Raptor's avatar

I have a few people like that in my life. I want so badly to ask them what their jab lot number was. So far no.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

I got one jab, against my wishes and common sense. No more. First time I looked up my serial number the number of deaths was 45, then 92, the 145, now it is 194....😔

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

1976 Mike Wallace report on “Swine Flu Scandal” vaccine that injured 4000!Americans (15 min). My, how the media has changed.

https://rumble.com/vm4p8h-1976-swine-flu-scandal-the-cdcs-history-of-lying-about-vaccine-dangers-and-.html

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

...and the Swine flu shots were pulled with less than 50 deaths.

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AngelaK's avatar

I stupidly got the Swine Flu vaccine un the 70s at college. My scary reaction scared me off ever taking another flu (or covid ) vaccine ever since.... almost 50 years!

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Sorry that happened and I’m glad you recovered.

My wife did it early because she’s a nurse and they required it for her to work. She had a neuropathy problem that occurred immediately and did not get the second dose. We’re thankful it wasn’t worse.

The past 3 years have taught us to take full responsibility for our own health. Including diet and exercise.

My approach now is to only see a doctor for trauma. They have no ability to help my overall health be giving me Pharma products.

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AngelaK's avatar

No, I did not take any covid shot. I took the Swine flu vaccine in the 70s. I think you misread.

Sorry about your wife.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I did the same. Felt like I had the flu for a week. Swore I'd never take another vax. Why take a flu vax that makes you feel like you have the flu? Probably wouldn't catch it anyway.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

And by the way, back then there was so much propaganda and peer pressure to take the shots. You were mislead, not stupid. You are on the right track exploring truth so keep going!

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Starsky's avatar

What was your reaction?

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Annie's avatar

Mike Wallace is a swine.

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Sarah Bee's avatar

I’m heartbroken over this. So many young kiddos making life changing decisions about their health all just to attend college. There has to be a different way! Why aren’t they protesting??? So many asleep at the wheel these days!

Oh & I just spent the weekend with my dear cousin - she’s 41 and was told she’s pre-menopausal and having a third huge fibroid removed (the first one was right after Covid vaccine) & may need a hysterectomy 😩praying for her .

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Annie's avatar

It's sad. I'm sorry for your cousin. 😔 I am waiting for the shoe to drop on all my kids college and high school friends. I hope that they will be spared. 🙏

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Shelle's avatar

That's how I feel. So short-sighted to risk your health and life just to attend a college! They are so young and inexperienced and don't realize what they risk giving up. It's especially cruel for colleges to do this to them at an age when these kids don't know what they don't know.

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

Some researchers have found lots of DNA fragments left in the shots, it seems to be a residue of mass-production that wasn't present in the preparations used in the trial for FDA approval.

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Johnny-O's avatar

There was actually an article posted on MSN about the dangers of mRNA shots and questioning if they should be banned altogether. Couldn't believe it.

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NAB's avatar

It goes from bad to worse with the information coming out about the trials.

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Peace's avatar

Not surprising since the trial only tested about 250 people using the production process that was adopted (replicating using eColi vs. the pcr replication). So, 250 test subjects for the product rolled out to the entire world. And the 250 subjects had 2.5 times more adverse outcomes than their placebo group. https://dailyclout.io/pfizer-process-2-vaccine-had-2-4-times-adverse-events/

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

Not to mention that they later proceeded to vaccinate the placebo group to taint the trial.

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shayne's avatar

I read that the covid vaccine is washed clean before it's sent for use, however it appears the scrubbing of the vaccine has not completely worked, thus people have received mRNA contaminated with DNA fragments. How anyone can trust the pharma industrial complex now, is beyond me.

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Michele's avatar

Dr, Buckhaultz testimony--fascinating from a believer in mRNA but the guy is calling out how toxic the jabs are.

https://youtu.be/IEWHhrHiiTY

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Annie's avatar

Do not go to a college that still mandates the vaxx. They need to go broke.

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

My vaxxed, 40 year old friend recently had a double mastectomy. Now she needs a hysterectomy because they've found abnormal cells. She is waiting for an appointment with oncologist.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

That is so sad. My wife battled cancer 10 years ago. I wish this on no one.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

One can only lop off so many parts.

Very sad for those afflicted.

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Emumundo's avatar

They’re going to end up piñatas.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Ghoulish: the tin woodsman came to mind with your comment.

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Annie's avatar

Wow. How awful. 😪

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Do you think the cancer explosions are more fatal than the strokes?

Seems by suppressing the immune system for the spikes to generate, that all these cancers can manifest.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

I was thinking the same. But “they” have been so successful in convoluting the causes of death, that there’s no consensus on why there are increased death rates.

It’s like the shots attack the weakest part of each person individually, so correlation is difficult.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

"It’s like the shots attack the weakest part of each person individually..."

This has been our observation of friends and family:

A couple, one with Parkinson's and the other with Alzheimer's, both doing okay, still living in their own home, got jabbed in Jan/Feb 2021. By the end of March 2021 they were living with their daughter because they could no longer manage basic life functions. One of them has since passed away.

A brother who was diagnosed with Crohn's in early 20's, was in remission for 30 YEARS! Got jabbed to keep his job, a year and a half later got cv-19, ended up in the hospital with massive flare-up of Crohn's. Recovered and less than a year later, another massive flare-up that landed him in the hospital for 17 days and surgery to remove 30 cm of his small/large intestines. Still isn't back to work (the 3 letter agency is taking it's own sweet time to reissue his medical certificate so he can go back to work.)

A friend with a family history of Parkinson's (not related to the couple above) recently diagnosed with Parkinson's that seems to be progressing rapidly. The deterioration since May (this year) is heartbreaking.

A family friend, diagnosed with ulcerative colitis in her 20s, doing fine on medication for 20 years, now enduring massive flare-up for many months and can't find a new medicine that will work. I would suggest finding a good naturopathic/integrative medicine doc, but she won't consider it.

My beloved godmother, my mom's friend of 60+ years, diagnosed with turbo cancer in March of 2022. She took the jabs because her 3 daughters (2 nurses and 1 PA) insisted their parents get jabbed - 1 daughter would not let the grandparents near her toddler unless they got jabbed. She has been in remission now for several months, Praise God!

There are others: 1 with new diagnosis of trigeminal neuralgia; 1 with 2 MIs; several friends have family members with new cancers, some turbo, some not; 1 friend with "tremors but not Parkinson's" - the list just keeps getting longer.

Mrs. "the Knife"

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I have been fearing this: those were the boys for whom I wrote college recommendations in '20, '21. Helping to send them to their doom I wonder.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

We give over $3.8 billion to Israel every year now already. Just in military support. There's more beyond that.

But they need EVEN MORE MONEY.

So we need a Speaker in the House so we can send more money away from USA.

Do people that support this have covid brains or what?

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

Maybe in exchange for the money Israel can send a few engineers that know how to build a wall?

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Jen's avatar

Or fill in tunnels.

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LuAnne's avatar

Yep. Unlike the US, the Israeli military is in top notch condition, along with equipment and high tech capabilities. To my knowledge, Israel hasn't even asked for additional aid but we're going to give it to them anyways. Lots of it!

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Raptor's avatar

Yet it took them almost a day to get to the overrun border, moved their troops from the border days ahead of the Yom Kippur was anniversary and didn't detect the breaches of the wall or hang gliding terrorists cruising in.

They are either incompetent or strategic. Something stinks.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Watch this, I think it’s a shocking answer to your question. What do you think? https://rumble.com/v3ou5rq-that-really-caused-israelis-catastrophic-intelligence-failure.html

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Michele's avatar

Strategic, my vote.

A LIHOP.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

It looks to me like the Israeli Left was running the government for a few years and did a huge amount of damage to their National Security. And their are reports of the Biden Administration controlling their choice of the national security agency contracts. Lots of corruption and leftists’ insanity.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/is-israel-ready-fight-hamas/

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LuAnne's avatar

Yes, their long delay is definitely suspicious. But that's a different story altogether. It didn't have anything to do with needing aide from us.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

But I think just yesterday, Jeff was advising Israel to be cautious In considering if this is a trap. Maybe they are collecting intelligence and going for the most rational plan. “Revenge is a dish best served cold.”

And maybe they are reeling from such a massive barbaric attack that has affected the entire nation personally.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/horror-ten-members-same-jewish-family-including-three/

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LuAnne's avatar

I was speaking about the delayed response on the day of the initial hamas attack (the first day). Many people in Israel say there was no Israeli response for 7 or more hours after hamas attacked.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Oh! Sorry, reading too quickly. Yes. That’s a question in need of an answer.

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Raptor's avatar

Well it definitely calls into question their top notch status.

I have heard reports that individual IDF airforce members are tweeting out claims that they were up in the air and defending against Hamas right as they made their incursion. Yet not one person on the ground saw that happening. They see it all. Yet...

I don't know what all these curious things actually mean, but it does raise the eyebrows. Some of the explanations are as grave as the explanations nobody wanted to consider re 9-11.

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Ellen's avatar

The Globalists have infiltrated every government

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Their iron dome has been going continuously so they needed replacement supplies from us, which we sent them. So they are massively dependent upon us for a very important piece of equipment.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

They're ALL jabbed to the max, they are indeed NOT in top notch condition.... the worst is yet to come.

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Peace's avatar

How do countries decide they need more money? at this point, the U.S. should be getting aid from these countries, not going deeper into debt? Do these countries receiving aid prove they are in a worse financial position than the U.S. and other entities giving them aid?

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Christy's avatar

Covid brain. That’s the only thing that makes sense!!!

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CStone's avatar

Israel is a tiny country, surrounded by HUGE countries full of enemies.

What we SHOULD do is quit subsidizing Israel’s ENEMIES, and help Israel more. This is NOT a time to turn away from Israel.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

The country is run by psychopaths. They pushed the covid tyranny worse than any other.

And you and I have to pay them more on top of the 3.8 Billion they already get??

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The Phoenix's avatar

Not only are we giving them BILLIONS of dollars.

There is a huge American military build up in the East Mediterranean.

Looks we’ll also sacrifice our sons and daughters to fight Israel’s war.

Enough!!!!

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Michele's avatar

Not just money.

https://youtu.be/7PuY9cYHsSM

One ammo plant likely no longer selling to civilians; another just had explosion... (shades of food-factory fires, anyone?)

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Sheep Dog's avatar

Biden is making NO decisions. The same person who was "behind the scenes" in the Obama administration is still around making decisions. I'm convinced. Everything being done is to bring the most harm to The United States. Bet on that!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I think biden is there for the photo ops only. Obummer is in the meetings behind the scenes. All it takes is for one world leader to roll their eyes at biden and you know it’s just the photo op he’s there for.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

This shocking comment was posted above…

“My brother is IN Israel and he works directly with high-level Israeli government officials. He called yesterday and said an "UNPRECEDENTED" number of Heads of State are "visiting" Israel. Attempting to make backroom deals for ... well, whatever they think they can get out of them.

BIGGEST news...The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is talking about allowing up to 1 MILLION unvetted Palestinians into the Land of the Free...And I say WHY NOT? They all really deserve a big family reunion with their MILITARY AGED BROTHERS already living here and enjoying the finest hotels and high security in NY City! After all, they need some time to get their grease guns greased up and working properly before they hit the highways!

...CALL YOUR CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES. EMAIL THEM. GO DOWN TO THEIR OFFICES. LET THEM KNOW YOUR FEELINGS ON THIS MATTER!!! DO IT NOW!

God Bless Us Every One!!”

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Ellen's avatar

It’s up to us to defend ourselves. We have no government left.

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CStone's avatar

Susan Rice.....obamalamadingdong’s string puller

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Ellen's avatar

Are Iranian Jarrett

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Politico Phil's avatar

It's Obama.

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Jayne Evans's avatar

All this guy's books are available as free PDF's they explain Who is behind the president (Tragedy and Hope 101) and how debt rules the world (Dishonest Money)

https://www.joeplummer.com/

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Virtue Mustwin's avatar

As an animal lover, I just have to add that DeSantis air allowed their passengers to bring their dogs with them (there were 4 aboard) while Biden's provisions did not include pets (dogs can bite, you know.) How can the U.S. possibly be this lame?

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Peter Schott's avatar

Really hoping Jordan gets the vote, though I hate the deal-making that will have to happen in order to make it so. Those 6 should be primaried out, though they probably won't be. At least we have a chance for someone with a backbone as speaker now for the GOP side instead of the prior ones. Makes me pine for the 90's when we had leadership that would threaten to do something and then do it. Sadly, that's one thing the Democrats have that the Republicans don't - nearly lock-step following of their congressional leaders. (Not that I _want_ fully lock-step following, but we seem to shoot ourselves more than anything else.)

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AnnR's avatar

He should tell them what they want to hear and then pivot once he's elected. How many RINOs have lied to get elected - turnabout is fair play!!!

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

He could just do what McCarthy did and promise but not fulfill the promise. Unfortunately I think Jordan is too ethical for that kind of deceit.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Isn’t it sad that we have to say things like “unfortunately he’s too ethical”? 😞😕

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devoalan's avatar

Going to the range today, because.

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