While I do believe there are medicinal uses for marijuana for those with seizures and other special medical needs (although I have no knowledge regarding its use with THC or without) they have blurred the field to pit us against each other. Just like everything else.
I know from first hand “recreational” use in my late teens and early 20s the complete and utter destruction it caused in my life and those around me. Nothing good came from it - at all. Not even a little bit. I hate government involvement as they can’t do ANYTHING right, but there has to be a way, like Jeff eluded to, to bring a balance for those that need it and those that just wanna stay high and useless. And yes, I know alcohol fits in the same category. Although no one really needs alcohol for medicinal use.
Just ask Colorado and Michigan how they like pot shops on every corner. Ask the residents there about drug addicted people laying all over their streets. Ask how their youth are doing? Ask Oregonians how the pot shop on every corner with all drugs being legal now is working out for them. Unfortunately, by the time they get all drugs legal everywhere it will be too late to stop that train and the damage will already be done. None of their “data” and drug addiction studies will even matter at that point.
If a medicinal issue could be helped by it - it should be able to be gotten. However, it should need to be proven it is actually needed. I have personal knowledge of teens in Oregon getting medical cards so easily because they had money in their pockets. Nothing more! There are doctors that are corrupt as with everything, (see 2020 and covid for proof of that) and money talks. It is disgraceful. Shame on grown ups for acting like clowns.
As someone in Michigan and in my 50’s, I can attest to what it has done to our state. You, literally, can’t go anywhere without smelling pot in the areas around me. A “smoke shop” opened in a retail space in the same building I work in. Supposedly not licensed to sell pot but we smell it BAD every day. My eyes water and I have headaches. Thankfully I’m only part time but I feel sorry for my coworkers who are exposed more longer term. Supposedly the landlord is working on eviction but we’ll see.
I have a family member who recently had a schizophrenic type psychotic event for the first time in his 50’s. His live-in adult child regularly smokes/vapes marijuana and I truly suspect his constant exposure is somehow responsible. The area psychiatric hospitals are so full with waiting lists, he had to go to one that was 2 1/2 hours away.
The young people in our area live in pajama pants day in and day out. They’re rude, entitled, mouthy and don’t see a problem with any of it. And then they’re the first to step up for a hand out and think they’ve been given a bad break.
We experience the same thing. In Oregon…the whole neighborhood smelled of it all the time. So sad. We have neighbors in Florida doing it too. Walked into a bowling alley and some dudes walked past me and I think I got high just from that. 🤦🏼♀️
I would smoke the old style pot from the 70s. It got me thru many advanced math classes. I am not sure about all this pharma pot. I would check the ingredients. Do your due diligence. Can't trust anything msm medical and the government has their sticky fingers in. As always, it is not for your benefit but theirs. $$$
Old pot was certainly milder than the pot of today. Smoked some in college, it just made me stupid and numb, I guess that’s the point for many. Can’t imagine how numb I’d be today.
The cannabis is getting stronger and stronger in California. From what I've seen at local dispensaries, when cannabis was first legalized the percentage of THC was usually around the low-to-mid teens, with only the top shelf, expensive strains being above twenty, now I don't see anything below 20% THC. I am concerned about this. I think every once in a while very mild cannabis can be nice and it stimulates creativity, but when I smoke this stuff I just feel stupid and tired, so I stay away from it all together.
Don't forget the stench of pot smoke everywhere in blue state cities like NYC and Las Vegas. The only plus - my teens were so turned off, they swore off pot!
yeah we went to Vegas a few years back and I couldn't believe it...the stink was overpowering. It took over everything. It was turning the place to crap really. And we like the gummies...I'm not the type to have an issue with people doing what they want to do (I have done what I wanted to do in my youth). But it's impossible to deny it's turning Vegas into garbage and not that fun to walk around.
Pot is like anything else, you have to have some restraint and not be stupid. I’ve smoked pot on and off since the 60’s and it’s been very therapeutic. Take a hit and take a walk, so good for my mental health. The downside of this are vape pens that are 80%!!! Took a hit at a friends house as he was telling me it was 80%! Yikes! I crawled over to his couch and called for a ride. Did not want to be where I was and I was forced to wait until the cavalry showed up. Moderation I learned in college when I was at a party and someone spiked the punch with psychedelics. I was out of my mind, didn’t know where I was , and at some point I looked around and I was the only person there. I just sat there and waited for my friends to come back. I don’t want to do anything that causes me to not be in full control of my faculties.
Alcohol was made legal to take the profits out of the hands of criminals. The same could happen for all drugs, and then a truly good relationship between doctor and patient could be arrived at.
Cowgirl Dee: Hardly! I have in mind those who allow themselves to become addicted to drugs. It is all downhill from there for them and for people and places around them. It is what Kathy in Oregon was referring to.
I will say this: the only time in my adult years I did not suffer from extreme depression was when I was using pot. I was more productive, had zero problems with insomnia, and had an actual life, now I am just trying to get through each day and have terrible insomnia. I weigh much more now that when I used pot. I refuse to use big pharma's chemical crap, but I do use every natural thing I can find (except pot) and it helps some. There is a difference between use and abuse. For me, I could use a certain amount, but overdoing it made me MORE depressed so I never did that.
All of that said, I agree with your statement. Pot can definitely cause apathy. Add to that the scamdemic, the nonsense called "climate change", cutting off kids' sex organs, sexual predators pretending to be drag queens, out of control inflation, illegals everywhere, and wars and rumors of war, pot would be a great escape that would allow anyone to become so apathetic they did not fight back. Not good, but the government would love it. Also, I trust the stuff I used to smoke. Now I wonder what it is sprayed with. No thanks.
Which is why the big push against Hemp derived CBDa! Not hallucinating, effective and Big Pharma can not patent it! BTW it works in my patients (albeit physician n=1). Be Well & Blessed, Phillip
What kind of patients use CBDa? My son had HPV vaccine(we were hesitant on this, but the doctor talked my wife into it!#?#!?) in 2018 (he was 16)-this caused our life to be turned upside down. They say he has Fibromyalgia-but this seems to be what you have when doctors(we went to at least 10 different doctors) can't figure out what you have. He is 20 now. He has his medical card for the widespread body and joint pain, skin sensitivity, etc and it helps some-but he really wants to get off it as his tolerance level is now so high. The medical thc doctor really didn't give much guidance on how much to take--"take as needed". It seems to be that there is a point with TCH where too much is not good long term. So we are looking for alternatives to help him. He does not eat sugar, bread, etc Mostly carnivore diet at the moment. Seems to help. We have tried a LOT of different supplements. Some seem to help a little bit, but nothing takes his pain away completely.
Many people have been helped by reading Dr. Sarah Myhill’s book, “Diagnosiis and Treatment of Chronic Fatigue and Myalgic Encephalitis”. The HPV vaccine has caused a lot of harm (Japan suspended the use), but boosters are also causing serious health issues.
Thank you. I will check this out, we have read so many books-it feels like a rabbit hole every time we do research. I did read some comments on this book and it mentions ribose--this is something we just started. He is taking it with Mito Life (mitochondria support). Trying that with Ultralauren(Monolaurin) , Infla Mazing (reduce inflamation) and Bio-Fibrrin (Enzymes). The logic behind them seems sound, but time will tell. Also have boosted his Vit D to 8000 IU per day as his Vit D level is low and some sleep experts say without optimum Vit D in the body sleep suffers--and sleep for those with Fibro is very important. He also is taking a lot of magnesium(slowmag is one and I would need to look up the other one) at bedtime also now--and it seems to be helping that part of his issue.
I'd be happy to give you a free consultation, my heart aches for all the injured. I was a Medical Director for a Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Clinic. Personal email: jockoccdoc@hotmail.com
My husband suffers a lot of pain. Unfortunately the muscle relaxation of alcohol is one of his few "treatments." Other less effective stuff is hot jade stone heating pads, valerian, and peppermint EO. Also, one we haven't tried yet is CBD plus Blue Tansy oil, a friend of mine with bad pain said that was the only pain relief that worked for her.
Melatonin and home made fermented foods have been quite beneficial to us as well.
Sarah Myhill’s book saved my life. I had downloaded it in 2011 before it was even published and had been stripped of her license by the UK NIH. She is a miracle.
This year in Virginia, our school district made the hpv shot mandatory. But, if you scroll down, it says can be declined by just the parent saying so. I didn’t even say so lol. I would love it if they said anything to me about it.
But it makes me furious they are trying to trick people into giving a dangerous shot to their kids.
Up side down is putting it mildly. Sorry. Stay strong. And know, they will never own up to the damage caused by those shots -at least on paper and the vaccine court is a freak'in joke unless you are getting paid by the court system.
So sorry this happened to your son. That's terrible! my MIL was just saying we should do this for our girls soon (they are 10 and 7). I was horrified. I have known for years that this is a bad shot...even pre-covid. Too many people have been hurt by this one. I looked it up, there are tons of lawsuits and they seem to be gaining ground lately. Needless to say, we won't be doing this or any of pharma's other poison darts anytime soon.
Pharma and a lot of docs are so evil (not all docs obviously). I am so sorry. Evil.
I am no doctor, but given the same situation, I might try Rhus Tox for joint pain. This is a homeopathic remedy and probably about $13, not sure with inflation, but it's a cheap gamble that will do no harm if it does not work. I hope your son can find relief.
GnaWin - I'm so sorry to hear about your son. Did this get reported to VAERS? Want to be sure you're aware of the Vaccine Injury Court. https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation
We moved to Seattle on a mid-life crisis lark in 2017. All of my life, I'd been pro-legalization (though other than a couple of times in HS and college, did NOT partake.)
We were shocked at the pro-MJ culture and legality in Seattle Clever billboards advertising pot everywhere, and not even a fake medical card needed. I honestly thought at the time, "Wow, this is great!" even though I still wasn't a user. (I remember being stuck in rush-hour traffic one day - six lanes across, both directions - and smelling the MJ waft across the highway like someone had just announced "Smoke 'em if you got 'em!)
But over the three years, I began to see how closely linked the pro legalization movement is with the human degradation of the homeless camps. You cannot separate the two. You can't.
Every homeless encampment is covered with a haze of blue pot smoke, like LA was covered with a smog island back in the 70's. They're really not homeless camps - they're Heroin camps, because they're filled with people who are addicted to whatever mind-altering substance that was formerly illegal, but now was completely unenforced because the King County prosecutor's office long ago started tossing out EVERY drug-related arrest.
In 2020 we'd finally had enough of the public urination, shootouts, hundred's of thousands of roadside tents perched on heaps of garbage, and so we went back home to our beloved Oklahoma. But there was a nasty surprise awaiting us.
In the intervening 3 years, Oklahoma had legalized medical marijuana. Now the pot dispensaries were on every OKLAHOMA corner, and all the clever ads touting pot sales were right here in River City.
It deeply saddens me to see this. We also have more and more and more tents cropping up alongside our parks and streets, and I can spot the stoners wandering the city like the "drug zombies" I used to have to avoid in Seattle. IN ruby red OKLAHOMA!
The medical card thing is a complete sham. Got $40? You got a need for medical marijuana! Literally anyone can get one for any reason - the acceptance rate is 100%. You can smell the MJ smoke everywhere. One of my neighbors across the street recently told me that while some other people (an attorney and his adult son) formerly rented the house across from me while we were in Seattle she had to stop using her back patio, because the wafting marijuana cloud was so disgusting.
My RN wife recently took a travel contract in Oklahoma's largest city, where she works 3 days a week. Because the drive is too much to bear after her 12-hour shift in the hospital, she found a room in a doctor's house, who rents out to medical professionals. Guess what? They're all stoners too. She walked into the garage and doc and his gf were hitting a bong.
Another serious problem: Chinese nationals are buying up farmland to create grow operations here. They use imported Chinese slaves, and when the slaves get out of line, they put them on their knees and shoot them in the head. (Actual story, really happened.)
Don't try to tell me MJ is a victimless crime. I've gone from a pro-legalization position, to the realization that it needs to be illegal and re-criminalized.
I smoke daily...have an MBA (not that it means that much), great career.
I think the problem, just a hunch, is so many people are already screwed in the head that any add'l substances other than good food/water compounds their issues.
I remember back in the 70’s you could smoke pot around the university and the police would not bother you. If, on the other hand, they saw you with an open beer or wine bottle you were in for trouble!
The government approved marijuana because they want us fat, drunk/high unaware sick and near death if not dead
While I do believe there are medicinal uses for marijuana for those with seizures and other special medical needs (although I have no knowledge regarding its use with THC or without) they have blurred the field to pit us against each other. Just like everything else.
I know from first hand “recreational” use in my late teens and early 20s the complete and utter destruction it caused in my life and those around me. Nothing good came from it - at all. Not even a little bit. I hate government involvement as they can’t do ANYTHING right, but there has to be a way, like Jeff eluded to, to bring a balance for those that need it and those that just wanna stay high and useless. And yes, I know alcohol fits in the same category. Although no one really needs alcohol for medicinal use.
Just ask Colorado and Michigan how they like pot shops on every corner. Ask the residents there about drug addicted people laying all over their streets. Ask how their youth are doing? Ask Oregonians how the pot shop on every corner with all drugs being legal now is working out for them. Unfortunately, by the time they get all drugs legal everywhere it will be too late to stop that train and the damage will already be done. None of their “data” and drug addiction studies will even matter at that point.
If a medicinal issue could be helped by it - it should be able to be gotten. However, it should need to be proven it is actually needed. I have personal knowledge of teens in Oregon getting medical cards so easily because they had money in their pockets. Nothing more! There are doctors that are corrupt as with everything, (see 2020 and covid for proof of that) and money talks. It is disgraceful. Shame on grown ups for acting like clowns.
As someone in Michigan and in my 50’s, I can attest to what it has done to our state. You, literally, can’t go anywhere without smelling pot in the areas around me. A “smoke shop” opened in a retail space in the same building I work in. Supposedly not licensed to sell pot but we smell it BAD every day. My eyes water and I have headaches. Thankfully I’m only part time but I feel sorry for my coworkers who are exposed more longer term. Supposedly the landlord is working on eviction but we’ll see.
I have a family member who recently had a schizophrenic type psychotic event for the first time in his 50’s. His live-in adult child regularly smokes/vapes marijuana and I truly suspect his constant exposure is somehow responsible. The area psychiatric hospitals are so full with waiting lists, he had to go to one that was 2 1/2 hours away.
The young people in our area live in pajama pants day in and day out. They’re rude, entitled, mouthy and don’t see a problem with any of it. And then they’re the first to step up for a hand out and think they’ve been given a bad break.
We experience the same thing. In Oregon…the whole neighborhood smelled of it all the time. So sad. We have neighbors in Florida doing it too. Walked into a bowling alley and some dudes walked past me and I think I got high just from that. 🤦🏼♀️
I would smoke the old style pot from the 70s. It got me thru many advanced math classes. I am not sure about all this pharma pot. I would check the ingredients. Do your due diligence. Can't trust anything msm medical and the government has their sticky fingers in. As always, it is not for your benefit but theirs. $$$
Old pot was certainly milder than the pot of today. Smoked some in college, it just made me stupid and numb, I guess that’s the point for many. Can’t imagine how numb I’d be today.
The cannabis is getting stronger and stronger in California. From what I've seen at local dispensaries, when cannabis was first legalized the percentage of THC was usually around the low-to-mid teens, with only the top shelf, expensive strains being above twenty, now I don't see anything below 20% THC. I am concerned about this. I think every once in a while very mild cannabis can be nice and it stimulates creativity, but when I smoke this stuff I just feel stupid and tired, so I stay away from it all together.
Probably the same in Oregon. 😢😳
I wouldn’t take it if government or pharma had their grubby paws in it. I don’t want to use it anyway. It just made me hungry and tired.
Yep, hungry and tired was all I got out of it in the 70’s!
I don’t know any Pharma pot. There are many independent growers too.
Don't forget the stench of pot smoke everywhere in blue state cities like NYC and Las Vegas. The only plus - my teens were so turned off, they swore off pot!
yeah we went to Vegas a few years back and I couldn't believe it...the stink was overpowering. It took over everything. It was turning the place to crap really. And we like the gummies...I'm not the type to have an issue with people doing what they want to do (I have done what I wanted to do in my youth). But it's impossible to deny it's turning Vegas into garbage and not that fun to walk around.
Pot is like anything else, you have to have some restraint and not be stupid. I’ve smoked pot on and off since the 60’s and it’s been very therapeutic. Take a hit and take a walk, so good for my mental health. The downside of this are vape pens that are 80%!!! Took a hit at a friends house as he was telling me it was 80%! Yikes! I crawled over to his couch and called for a ride. Did not want to be where I was and I was forced to wait until the cavalry showed up. Moderation I learned in college when I was at a party and someone spiked the punch with psychedelics. I was out of my mind, didn’t know where I was , and at some point I looked around and I was the only person there. I just sat there and waited for my friends to come back. I don’t want to do anything that causes me to not be in full control of my faculties.
yep..that's me. High and useless.
I'll put that on my cv.
Alcohol was made legal to take the profits out of the hands of criminals. The same could happen for all drugs, and then a truly good relationship between doctor and patient could be arrived at.
Oh my, you need to study a state where it’s happening… Oregon. Drug deaths, overdoses, wasted lives, all at record numbers.
All emotional responses.
It’s the job of other's to keep others safe from themselves. It’s saying, “You don’t need to be responsible. It’s the government’s job to do it.
That kind of thinking lands us in the quagmire we now find ourselves with censorship and threatening doctors licenses.
It's tricky, tho - what about people who refuse to be responsible? They create a serious social/civil situation for those around them.
Are you speaking of the irresponsible social/civil population who refused to take the mRNA shot?
Cowgirl Dee: Hardly! I have in mind those who allow themselves to become addicted to drugs. It is all downhill from there for them and for people and places around them. It is what Kathy in Oregon was referring to.
I will say this: the only time in my adult years I did not suffer from extreme depression was when I was using pot. I was more productive, had zero problems with insomnia, and had an actual life, now I am just trying to get through each day and have terrible insomnia. I weigh much more now that when I used pot. I refuse to use big pharma's chemical crap, but I do use every natural thing I can find (except pot) and it helps some. There is a difference between use and abuse. For me, I could use a certain amount, but overdoing it made me MORE depressed so I never did that.
All of that said, I agree with your statement. Pot can definitely cause apathy. Add to that the scamdemic, the nonsense called "climate change", cutting off kids' sex organs, sexual predators pretending to be drag queens, out of control inflation, illegals everywhere, and wars and rumors of war, pot would be a great escape that would allow anyone to become so apathetic they did not fight back. Not good, but the government would love it. Also, I trust the stuff I used to smoke. Now I wonder what it is sprayed with. No thanks.
Half a THC gummy every night helps me sleep. But I love my lungs too much to ever smoke it.
Well said!
Which is why the big push against Hemp derived CBDa! Not hallucinating, effective and Big Pharma can not patent it! BTW it works in my patients (albeit physician n=1). Be Well & Blessed, Phillip
What kind of patients use CBDa? My son had HPV vaccine(we were hesitant on this, but the doctor talked my wife into it!#?#!?) in 2018 (he was 16)-this caused our life to be turned upside down. They say he has Fibromyalgia-but this seems to be what you have when doctors(we went to at least 10 different doctors) can't figure out what you have. He is 20 now. He has his medical card for the widespread body and joint pain, skin sensitivity, etc and it helps some-but he really wants to get off it as his tolerance level is now so high. The medical thc doctor really didn't give much guidance on how much to take--"take as needed". It seems to be that there is a point with TCH where too much is not good long term. So we are looking for alternatives to help him. He does not eat sugar, bread, etc Mostly carnivore diet at the moment. Seems to help. We have tried a LOT of different supplements. Some seem to help a little bit, but nothing takes his pain away completely.
Man that is outrageous they gave that to him (HPV vax). Sickening.
Many people have been helped by reading Dr. Sarah Myhill’s book, “Diagnosiis and Treatment of Chronic Fatigue and Myalgic Encephalitis”. The HPV vaccine has caused a lot of harm (Japan suspended the use), but boosters are also causing serious health issues.
Thank you. I will check this out, we have read so many books-it feels like a rabbit hole every time we do research. I did read some comments on this book and it mentions ribose--this is something we just started. He is taking it with Mito Life (mitochondria support). Trying that with Ultralauren(Monolaurin) , Infla Mazing (reduce inflamation) and Bio-Fibrrin (Enzymes). The logic behind them seems sound, but time will tell. Also have boosted his Vit D to 8000 IU per day as his Vit D level is low and some sleep experts say without optimum Vit D in the body sleep suffers--and sleep for those with Fibro is very important. He also is taking a lot of magnesium(slowmag is one and I would need to look up the other one) at bedtime also now--and it seems to be helping that part of his issue.
I'd be happy to give you a free consultation, my heart aches for all the injured. I was a Medical Director for a Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Clinic. Personal email: jockoccdoc@hotmail.com
Be Well & Blessed,
Phillip
The vit D is a good idea, but 8,000 IU is not a high dose. Take a listen to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3_t-EQIy0s
My husband suffers a lot of pain. Unfortunately the muscle relaxation of alcohol is one of his few "treatments." Other less effective stuff is hot jade stone heating pads, valerian, and peppermint EO. Also, one we haven't tried yet is CBD plus Blue Tansy oil, a friend of mine with bad pain said that was the only pain relief that worked for her.
Melatonin and home made fermented foods have been quite beneficial to us as well.
D-ribose powder and L-carnitine (I take the liquid) are helpful for energy. The muscle pain is more complex and inflammation needs to be addressed.
Sarah Myhill’s book saved my life. I had downloaded it in 2011 before it was even published and had been stripped of her license by the UK NIH. She is a miracle.
Wow! I am so happy to hear this! I sent her book to a family member and the recommended supplements have been helpful.
So sorry to hear about your son. Doc did the same thing to my son….without my approval or knowledge until it was too late.
Thankful that the stupid bill going forward in CA has now NOT mandated for kids 13+. Although very confusing language because it is recommended still.
Lots more to fight!!
This year in Virginia, our school district made the hpv shot mandatory. But, if you scroll down, it says can be declined by just the parent saying so. I didn’t even say so lol. I would love it if they said anything to me about it.
But it makes me furious they are trying to trick people into giving a dangerous shot to their kids.
Up side down is putting it mildly. Sorry. Stay strong. And know, they will never own up to the damage caused by those shots -at least on paper and the vaccine court is a freak'in joke unless you are getting paid by the court system.
My best to you and yours.
Later Jay
So sorry this happened to your son. That's terrible! my MIL was just saying we should do this for our girls soon (they are 10 and 7). I was horrified. I have known for years that this is a bad shot...even pre-covid. Too many people have been hurt by this one. I looked it up, there are tons of lawsuits and they seem to be gaining ground lately. Needless to say, we won't be doing this or any of pharma's other poison darts anytime soon.
Pharma and a lot of docs are so evil (not all docs obviously). I am so sorry. Evil.
I am no doctor, but given the same situation, I might try Rhus Tox for joint pain. This is a homeopathic remedy and probably about $13, not sure with inflation, but it's a cheap gamble that will do no harm if it does not work. I hope your son can find relief.
Your son may have CRPS...please look it up, lots of folks suffer from this and it gets no attention...my husband has it
I know someone who recovered from crps (she was in a wheelchair) using LifeVantage Protandim products.
GnaWin - I'm so sorry to hear about your son. Did this get reported to VAERS? Want to be sure you're aware of the Vaccine Injury Court. https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation
My doggies have a hemp cbd treat. All the ingredients are easy to understand and they love it. They are happier and healthier.
Mine too!
If you have a mild heart arrhythmia, CBD can aggravate the condition. That's why I stopped using it as a relaxing agent pre-bedtime.
Maybe it's the formulation? There's no regulation. I've not seen that in my 4 years of recommending. But every Body is different!
Be Well & Blessed,
Phillip
and too stoned to work!
Ditto, ditto, ditto.
We moved to Seattle on a mid-life crisis lark in 2017. All of my life, I'd been pro-legalization (though other than a couple of times in HS and college, did NOT partake.)
We were shocked at the pro-MJ culture and legality in Seattle Clever billboards advertising pot everywhere, and not even a fake medical card needed. I honestly thought at the time, "Wow, this is great!" even though I still wasn't a user. (I remember being stuck in rush-hour traffic one day - six lanes across, both directions - and smelling the MJ waft across the highway like someone had just announced "Smoke 'em if you got 'em!)
But over the three years, I began to see how closely linked the pro legalization movement is with the human degradation of the homeless camps. You cannot separate the two. You can't.
Every homeless encampment is covered with a haze of blue pot smoke, like LA was covered with a smog island back in the 70's. They're really not homeless camps - they're Heroin camps, because they're filled with people who are addicted to whatever mind-altering substance that was formerly illegal, but now was completely unenforced because the King County prosecutor's office long ago started tossing out EVERY drug-related arrest.
In 2020 we'd finally had enough of the public urination, shootouts, hundred's of thousands of roadside tents perched on heaps of garbage, and so we went back home to our beloved Oklahoma. But there was a nasty surprise awaiting us.
In the intervening 3 years, Oklahoma had legalized medical marijuana. Now the pot dispensaries were on every OKLAHOMA corner, and all the clever ads touting pot sales were right here in River City.
It deeply saddens me to see this. We also have more and more and more tents cropping up alongside our parks and streets, and I can spot the stoners wandering the city like the "drug zombies" I used to have to avoid in Seattle. IN ruby red OKLAHOMA!
The medical card thing is a complete sham. Got $40? You got a need for medical marijuana! Literally anyone can get one for any reason - the acceptance rate is 100%. You can smell the MJ smoke everywhere. One of my neighbors across the street recently told me that while some other people (an attorney and his adult son) formerly rented the house across from me while we were in Seattle she had to stop using her back patio, because the wafting marijuana cloud was so disgusting.
My RN wife recently took a travel contract in Oklahoma's largest city, where she works 3 days a week. Because the drive is too much to bear after her 12-hour shift in the hospital, she found a room in a doctor's house, who rents out to medical professionals. Guess what? They're all stoners too. She walked into the garage and doc and his gf were hitting a bong.
Another serious problem: Chinese nationals are buying up farmland to create grow operations here. They use imported Chinese slaves, and when the slaves get out of line, they put them on their knees and shoot them in the head. (Actual story, really happened.)
Don't try to tell me MJ is a victimless crime. I've gone from a pro-legalization position, to the realization that it needs to be illegal and re-criminalized.
Wow 😳 This just confirms and reinforces my views. I feel like it is very insidious and evil. Like opium in China long ago.
Put marijuana on the ballot in a swing state in a tight election year. All the potheads come out to vote democrat and pot.
One thing about moving out of California was not having to smell second-hand pot. Then AZ legalizes it, darn it.
I smoke daily...have an MBA (not that it means that much), great career.
I think the problem, just a hunch, is so many people are already screwed in the head that any add'l substances other than good food/water compounds their issues.
It's our society's version of soma.
There are ties of marijuana curing cancer. I’d try that before any pharmaceuticals!!
I remember back in the 70’s you could smoke pot around the university and the police would not bother you. If, on the other hand, they saw you with an open beer or wine bottle you were in for trouble!