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Julie Ann B's avatar

Basically the CIA is in control of everything and has been for a long, long time. While Trump knew about the Deep State and was willing to take them on, I don’t think even he was aware of how deeply entrenched they are throughout the entire government and how massive their reach is. They have thousands upon thousands of agents. In addition, as soon as he was inaugurated they started attacking and destroying his cabinet starting with General Flynn and going after one person after another. The Russian collusion narrative started and he was constantly swimming against the current. He didn’t handle the Covid situation well but he is a businessman with no political experience prior to his presidency and certainly not well versed in medical issues. Besides the majority of healthcare professionals went along with the plandemic and the majority of Republicans did as well, including Ron DeSantis. He made mistakes; he had some people he trusted that he shouldn’t have. But he’s not perfect and the alternative would have been Hil-liar-y aka Killary! We would be much further down the path of destruction and insignificance as a nation if her cheating had been broad enough in the 2016 election which is why they took no chances in rigging the 2020 election. I’m waiting to see how the field plays out before making any proclamations of who I’m voting for. At the rate we’re going now, there won’t be a country left in 2024 and I’m praying for Jesus to come quickly for His church at anytime now.

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Dawn's avatar

These conversations could be a mute point if Dem opponents can’t figure out how to stop election fraud before 2024. Is the plan for this flood of illegals to inflate the census in key areas, that then translates into more Democrats in Congress?

I want to hear the Trump or DeSantis’s plan for managing the deep state, if elected. RFK has my ear, also.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

I wouldn't change who was the President when COVID was released. and agree with much of what you state.

As a leader you are frequently faced with situations that are beyond your expertise. You handle that by inviting many opinions to be voiced and challenging them with questions requiring fact based answers, not emotion, supposition, or fear. In addition to the CIA, he should have brought in dissenting voices from the medical and social disciplines in order to gather enough information to make as good a decision as possible. He didn't do that until it was too late.

In addition, an immutable rule of pandemics is that you first help those who are most vulnerable, then you develop policies based on vulnerabilities based on sub-populations. You DO NOT treat everyone the same. I don't know why this wasn't done, but if Trump were a better leader that would have been done. If he would have picked someone other than Pence to be in charge of the COVID task force (he certainly didn't lead it) it probably would have been done.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Excuse me but Trump DID bring in opposing experts (like Dr. Scott Atlas, MD of Stanford.)

He just chose to ignore them and go with the Deepstate instead.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

He brought them well after the policies, that led to millions of deaths in my opinion, were established. He should have reversed course but didn't and that cost many more lives.

My point was that you bring in differing experts BEFORE you create policy.

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Don's avatar

President Trumps main concern was deaths from covid.... there was less than 1/2 a million Americans dead by the end of his Presidency .

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RunningLogic's avatar

Assuming that number is even accurate which I don’t think it is.

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CStone's avatar

Your ignorance and leftist bias are showing

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

My "*leftist* bias?"

See? This illustrates one of the problems about the naivete and just general gullibility of the Trump cult.

They just cannot IMAGINE there are genuine *conservatives* (like me, and dozens of others on this Substack) who honestly cannot stand their hero, grifting conman Deepstate Deathvax Donnie.

It just doesn't compute for them. If you hate Trump, you MUST be a leftist.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

When the defense is "Trump *had* to run Operation Warp Speed, 'cause if he hadn't the media would be all over him."

Or, "Trump didn't know it was a scam, 'cause he was just the President of the United States, and was ill-advised."

Or, "Trump has learned his lesson now. This time it'll be different." [Even though he's still touting the Deathvax as his greatest accomplishment]

Or, "It's not Trump's fault that every single person he's appointed was a Swamp Creature, 'cause his son-in-law told him to."

Or, "Look at this inspirational picture of Trump and Jesus [in that order].

I'm sorry, but that *is* a cult.

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Franek ✅'s avatar

100%. Trump must be held accountable for his role and utter mismanagement of covid.

He was an abject failure on the most important issue of his presidency.

People who sweep that under the rug and pretend Trump was not at fault defy the truth and reality and are as delusional as the Trans cult who exhibit a similar defiance of truth and reality.

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AngelaK's avatar

Fair assessment.👍

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Iron Horsey's avatar

The Russia Collusion Hoax didn't start after 45 took office. It was already a full blown international operation in 2015.

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