Is it ironic that the same government that perpetrated the biggest fraud of all time is the same guvernembr that now wants to prosecute small business for “fraudulently” getting some of that cash that so many big actors stole shamelessly?
Is it ironic that the same government that perpetrated the biggest fraud of all time is the same guvernembr that now wants to prosecute small business for “fraudulently” getting some of that cash that so many big actors stole shamelessly?
And when I say “Fraudulently” I mean there were areas where guidance was vague, and people did what they had to to survive, and later found out they had not been in compliance but are getting nailed for it, in spite of the fact that at the time they did the best they knew. (Unlike the big actors, who apparently had no guidelines in the first place, but ignored even the basic moral guidelines.)
The Covid fraud is the flash trigger to all the tributary fraud, removal of rights, enslavement agenda. It's really One Big Fraud badly in need of prosecutions and severely meted out punishment. And they mean to kill us all.
Edit: Ha! persecutions and prosecutions are two different animals. But Mother Dyslexia don't know the difference!
What about all the school boards and colleges that took $. Didn't they just report the City of Chicago and Baltimore took millions for laptops and never purchased a single one for the students. Most also took $ for upgraded HVAC systems that were never replaced. The Boards all got raises and bonuses. Small business are "small" in the scope of the government unmanaged money scam.
Some of the fraud was big. They should be prosecuted. So should the big fraudsters. That is the part worthy of pressing. Big criminals are rarely prosecuted. Big actors are STEALING shamelessly.
I certainly understand the indignation concerning the feds bill - and I’m not being a goody-two-shoes - but two wrongs don’t make a right. Actually Benjamin Rush didn’t actually say that. What he said was “three wrongs won’t make you right.” Either way, we should not condone breaking the law.
Everyone knows one or more than one business owner in their sphere of influence who took PPP loans without any urgent need for the funds. They took them, reserved for them just in case they needed to return the funds, but ultimately got free money. Is that fraud....or is it just wrong?
Hmm. Not sure how if it was ultimately “free money” that the gov can make a claim that you committed fraud. Now, there is the conundrum of the government doing whatever it wants. However, to answer your question, if it’s wrong, it’s not right. The perpetrator has to judge himself.
I know of a attorney who took 2 PPP loans totalling nearly 900k and had them forgiven. I have first hand knowledge of how he didn't use the money to retain single employee, and how he also simultaneously was paid easily that much by one client for doing almost no work (no litigation whatsoever). He's just one of many. It's disgusting.
That’s right. I’m not condoning anyone who knowingly committed wrong. (And I’m sure there were many.) But somehow I’ll be surprised if the funding goes to charging those liberal schools and establishments that actually deliberately committed fraud.
Now Ron, See it from their POV. They expected their Cabal to collect more than they did, and they're bound and determined to get theirs back. The crafty thing is, they do this while assigning more tax revenue to grow the aparatchik.
That's your greatest fear? How was it that much different from Occupy Wall Street? The enemy here isn't each other, it is the corruption in our systems. We need to unify against the corruption. These echo chambers are getting us nowhere.
Our biggest problem we face is the corruption of our systems.
Why isn't anyone talking about solutions?
Let's build a decentralized and transparent "4th branch of government" that is 100% built and controlled by the people as a parallel system that holds all of the other branches accountable.
They are using technology to organize against us. We must use it back against those who are corrupting our systems.
Is it ironic that the same government that perpetrated the biggest fraud of all time is the same guvernembr that now wants to prosecute small business for “fraudulently” getting some of that cash that so many big actors stole shamelessly?
And when I say “Fraudulently” I mean there were areas where guidance was vague, and people did what they had to to survive, and later found out they had not been in compliance but are getting nailed for it, in spite of the fact that at the time they did the best they knew. (Unlike the big actors, who apparently had no guidelines in the first place, but ignored even the basic moral guidelines.)
The Covid fraud is the flash trigger to all the tributary fraud, removal of rights, enslavement agenda. It's really One Big Fraud badly in need of prosecutions and severely meted out punishment. And they mean to kill us all.
Edit: Ha! persecutions and prosecutions are two different animals. But Mother Dyslexia don't know the difference!
“Deny everything and make counter-accusations”
Dick Cheney
This should be attributed to Karl Marx.
I was thinking more along the lines of Fauci. Potato poTAHto.
same awful people. Does not mater what name it is. I think I would trust Marx more than Cheny to be honest
That’s what evildoers do, since the beginning of time. Accuse you of their wrongdoing.
If the log is in your own eye, deny and see it in others. It's science.
Narcissist 101.
What about all the school boards and colleges that took $. Didn't they just report the City of Chicago and Baltimore took millions for laptops and never purchased a single one for the students. Most also took $ for upgraded HVAC systems that were never replaced. The Boards all got raises and bonuses. Small business are "small" in the scope of the government unmanaged money scam.
Great points!!
Which forces us to revise an old saying: be sure to look a gift horse in the mouth. "
To quote my Dear Old Dad , “ FUBAR.”
Some of the fraud was big. They should be prosecuted. So should the big fraudsters. That is the part worthy of pressing. Big criminals are rarely prosecuted. Big actors are STEALING shamelessly.
Not just fraud... David Martin... all of the intent for fraud and harms was known to NIH and Fauci in early 2016.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMSz209wV8g
To give more IRS type jobs to people who will
then definitely vote democrat
I certainly understand the indignation concerning the feds bill - and I’m not being a goody-two-shoes - but two wrongs don’t make a right. Actually Benjamin Rush didn’t actually say that. What he said was “three wrongs won’t make you right.” Either way, we should not condone breaking the law.
Everyone knows one or more than one business owner in their sphere of influence who took PPP loans without any urgent need for the funds. They took them, reserved for them just in case they needed to return the funds, but ultimately got free money. Is that fraud....or is it just wrong?
Hmm. Not sure how if it was ultimately “free money” that the gov can make a claim that you committed fraud. Now, there is the conundrum of the government doing whatever it wants. However, to answer your question, if it’s wrong, it’s not right. The perpetrator has to judge himself.
I know of a attorney who took 2 PPP loans totalling nearly 900k and had them forgiven. I have first hand knowledge of how he didn't use the money to retain single employee, and how he also simultaneously was paid easily that much by one client for doing almost no work (no litigation whatsoever). He's just one of many. It's disgusting.
Using one of Jeff’s childerisms, the atty is doing a sprint to the hot place. He’ll have to account.
That’s right. I’m not condoning anyone who knowingly committed wrong. (And I’m sure there were many.) But somehow I’ll be surprised if the funding goes to charging those liberal schools and establishments that actually deliberately committed fraud.
But Mr. Wong said (to Mrs Wong), "2 Wongs don't make a White" Oh never mind. TGIF! Right on!
Later Jay
Correct! They make a little Wong.
Now Ron, See it from their POV. They expected their Cabal to collect more than they did, and they're bound and determined to get theirs back. The crafty thing is, they do this while assigning more tax revenue to grow the aparatchik.
That's your greatest fear? How was it that much different from Occupy Wall Street? The enemy here isn't each other, it is the corruption in our systems. We need to unify against the corruption. These echo chambers are getting us nowhere.
Do you want to unify? https://joshketry.substack.com/p/lets-unify-over-our-biggest-problem
Our biggest problem we face is the corruption of our systems.
Why isn't anyone talking about solutions?
Let's build a decentralized and transparent "4th branch of government" that is 100% built and controlled by the people as a parallel system that holds all of the other branches accountable.
They are using technology to organize against us. We must use it back against those who are corrupting our systems.
Like this:
https://joshketry.substack.com/p/lets-build-a-4th-branch-of-government