My oldest is about to eagle out, but scouts wasn’t for my two other boys. If scouts was what it is today 7 years ago we would have left during the first meeting. Once they stopped meeting on zoom they moved outdoors, with masks with hula hoops on the ground to show 6’. Outside! I won’t get into the trans activist mom rewriting the 90+ year old troop songbook. Or the fact that they now have an e-sports merit badge, or the new mandatory for eagle badge, which is just a bunch of DEI crap!
I was shocked a few days ago. We went to a grocery store and out front was a darling little girl and her dad selling girl scout cookies. We asked her to recite the pledge and she couldn’t so we said we’ll stop on our way out. They looked it up and she recited it perfectly. The shocking part, it says ‘God and Country’. I was so happy to hear that. It doesn’t say duty though.
(We bought one box, then asked her to cite it, and when she did we bought another). It’s a pleasure for us old folks to meet sweet and earnest little ones ♥️
If I had a son at scouting age he would be involved in Trail Life or nothing. Trail Life has really grown and developed. And boys can still be boys and do dangerous things boys have always done. I know some troops are different, but the Scouts have been compromised.
This is your experience, not ours. Mine's a Life Scout. Every troop is different, run by the kids and the parents. As always, it's important to dig into what's going on and who runs the troop before joining.
I agree. Try and schedule a paint ball outing though and see what happens. Meanwhile, you’re free to organize an entire weekend of “e-sports.”
The organization is on its way out. They lost the Mormons over their capitulation to culture, are trying to backfill with girls, all while placating the crowd that says gender is a social construct. Your troop sounds like it’s hanging in there, but rot has set in. scouts, absent a return to its founding ideals, won’t be around for our grandkids. That’s my prediction.
My older sons' troop was run by a group of outdoorsy men who really embraced the Scouting ethos so it did well. Overtime, though, as the top level of Scouting administration acquiesced to the Zeitgeist of the day, the culture changed. We didn't even consider it for my youngest son.
Same advice applies to mainstream Protestant and Catholic churches: Research your local before condemning all with a broad brush. You may be surprised at the differences between two churches in the same denomination.
Our troop did masks and zoom (enforced sort of by council). But we never did any hula hoop nonsense. I haven’t looked at the requirements for the new woke merit badge. I’m afraid I will vomit. Been in Scouts for about 15 years. At our troop level I haven’t seen any noticeable change, but I’m in a pretty conservative area.
My family Scouting heritage goes back to 1917 and attending the first World Scout Jamboree in 1920. In fact, I have a photograph on my wall of the entire American Scout delegation, with my grandfather proudly standing in the back row. I announced two weeks ago at our Scoutmaster Corps meeting that I am stepping down and away, as I can no longer support the BSA organization financially or as a Leader, though I will remain available as a Registered Adult to provide assistance with camping and hiking as needed (my son is still in).
It was an extremely difficult decision which has been weighing on my mind for the past few years. Aside from watching the organization twist itself into knots complying with the woke/DEI agenda, the institutional fear-mongering over COVID, the watering-down of Scouting skills mastery, and making it co-ed... far too many of the boys just aren't even taking it seriously.
Yes, our great family friend living near us when I was a boy let me see how awesome scouting was many decades ago. He was an area scouting leader. Went on camporees with my dad and our friend and I was mesmerized by the traditions. That’s all gone up in smoke.
Does anyone even see any actual Girl Scouts sell cookies anymore? I only see adults selling now. I'm glad I don't buy cookies from them anymore. Just another entity that's been overrun by the woke.
So many ruined institutions. The Scouts being overtaken by the wokesters is so infuriating. Of course they have to go for the children...
My oldest is about to eagle out, but scouts wasn’t for my two other boys. If scouts was what it is today 7 years ago we would have left during the first meeting. Once they stopped meeting on zoom they moved outdoors, with masks with hula hoops on the ground to show 6’. Outside! I won’t get into the trans activist mom rewriting the 90+ year old troop songbook. Or the fact that they now have an e-sports merit badge, or the new mandatory for eagle badge, which is just a bunch of DEI crap!
I was shocked a few days ago. We went to a grocery store and out front was a darling little girl and her dad selling girl scout cookies. We asked her to recite the pledge and she couldn’t so we said we’ll stop on our way out. They looked it up and she recited it perfectly. The shocking part, it says ‘God and Country’. I was so happy to hear that. It doesn’t say duty though.
(We bought one box, then asked her to cite it, and when she did we bought another). It’s a pleasure for us old folks to meet sweet and earnest little ones ♥️
If I had a son at scouting age he would be involved in Trail Life or nothing. Trail Life has really grown and developed. And boys can still be boys and do dangerous things boys have always done. I know some troops are different, but the Scouts have been compromised.
Love Trail Life!
A friend has started his own new boys' organization, like the Scouts of old - Florida Scouts, Troop 001:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0HzjVvyJnscBvG4TSVrhKwbRQWj6t1247tBuHVN8DVp4zJqv56yy52QXdxKfsBrphl&id=100000196612311&sfnsn=mo&mibextid=RUbZ1f
So sad he had to do that. But sure it’ll be great.
This is your experience, not ours. Mine's a Life Scout. Every troop is different, run by the kids and the parents. As always, it's important to dig into what's going on and who runs the troop before joining.
I agree. Try and schedule a paint ball outing though and see what happens. Meanwhile, you’re free to organize an entire weekend of “e-sports.”
The organization is on its way out. They lost the Mormons over their capitulation to culture, are trying to backfill with girls, all while placating the crowd that says gender is a social construct. Your troop sounds like it’s hanging in there, but rot has set in. scouts, absent a return to its founding ideals, won’t be around for our grandkids. That’s my prediction.
My older sons' troop was run by a group of outdoorsy men who really embraced the Scouting ethos so it did well. Overtime, though, as the top level of Scouting administration acquiesced to the Zeitgeist of the day, the culture changed. We didn't even consider it for my youngest son.
Same advice applies to mainstream Protestant and Catholic churches: Research your local before condemning all with a broad brush. You may be surprised at the differences between two churches in the same denomination.
Our troop did masks and zoom (enforced sort of by council). But we never did any hula hoop nonsense. I haven’t looked at the requirements for the new woke merit badge. I’m afraid I will vomit. Been in Scouts for about 15 years. At our troop level I haven’t seen any noticeable change, but I’m in a pretty conservative area.
I do think the local culture has an impact on individual troops.
My family Scouting heritage goes back to 1917 and attending the first World Scout Jamboree in 1920. In fact, I have a photograph on my wall of the entire American Scout delegation, with my grandfather proudly standing in the back row. I announced two weeks ago at our Scoutmaster Corps meeting that I am stepping down and away, as I can no longer support the BSA organization financially or as a Leader, though I will remain available as a Registered Adult to provide assistance with camping and hiking as needed (my son is still in).
It was an extremely difficult decision which has been weighing on my mind for the past few years. Aside from watching the organization twist itself into knots complying with the woke/DEI agenda, the institutional fear-mongering over COVID, the watering-down of Scouting skills mastery, and making it co-ed... far too many of the boys just aren't even taking it seriously.
Yes, our great family friend living near us when I was a boy let me see how awesome scouting was many decades ago. He was an area scouting leader. Went on camporees with my dad and our friend and I was mesmerized by the traditions. That’s all gone up in smoke.
Does anyone even see any actual Girl Scouts sell cookies anymore? I only see adults selling now. I'm glad I don't buy cookies from them anymore. Just another entity that's been overrun by the woke.
yes. I don't like cookies though, unless homemade.
Agreed