Please dont go all touchy and PC on me. 🙄That is what is wrong with this country today! I am part of an ethnic group and I am a New Yorker through and through, with a handle on the mosaic of my 'homeland' , having grown up and schooled and worked with every group of the great mosaic! Also as the geandaughter of immigrants I don’t get to…
Please dont go all touchy and PC on me. 🙄That is what is wrong with this country today! I am part of an ethnic group and I am a New Yorker through and through, with a handle on the mosaic of my 'homeland' , having grown up and schooled and worked with every group of the great mosaic! Also as the geandaughter of immigrants I don’t get touchy when I hear generalizations about the sociological factors behind my etnic group or any other group. I find sociology intellectually fascinating. PBS did an entire series on each group and the historic whys of how they tend to vote became so much clearer.
Angela, thanks for the correction from your perspective. I'm not in NY and I believe your experience. What I’m seeing where I sit though, is that there’s a huge awakening amongst many minorities.
But my response was not touchy nor PC, in the least; it was based on what I see. I do resist the constant psycho-social push to get us to think in terms of groups and alignments and to see others as individuals; not categorizing people nor belittling them. This is what the manipulators do — and they’ve largely succeeded. We won’t disable that trap until we free ourselves from it, too. That takes grace and effort. Ragging about “them” — the brainwashed — may vent frustration, ally us with other like thinking folks and feel good, but it accomplishes nothing of value, sets our own blinders more firmly in place, and puts us handily in the same trap we’re decrying. Sociology, btw, is the most untrustworthy, inexact, manipulative quasi- science limited hangout on the planet, next to psychology (and modern medicine) — PBS is right up there, too. Not a great rock to build your world view on.
Here's the thing..growing up in NYC we were groups! Catholics, Jews, Irish, Greeks, hispanics, blacks, Italian, Lebanese, etc. Our neighborhoods were built on groups. Yet, we all got along outside of the groups, and got to understand each others group and mentality and culture. Cultural and religious backgrounds are what largely determine peoples views on many things including politics...though I believe in todays American culture wars this may all be getting a bit more fuzzy.
You are right. Many minority individuals are stepping away from the generalizations of yesterday, because todays politics are totally different in so many way
😉 Peace. ✌️
PS: I don't go on about the 'brainwashed'. I try to understand where many people are coming from. I also try not to condemn or criticize. I think we agree ! 👍
Thanks! & Peace to you as well, Angela. God Bless.
PS. My mother was an immigrant, too (Norsk farmer/fisher people who settled in SE Alaska) But I love the thought of you growing up with such vibrant, rich & varied heritages and families all around you. Here in the Northwest, it’s mostly admiring imitation & approximation. We do have a smattering of authentic old world migrants here — mainly in the way of truly ethnic family restaurants, Chinatown, fourth-generation Norwegian fishermen in Seattle, Catholic & Orthodox parishes & some & pockets here & there, & fantastic mexican & asian places. But, nothing is like the rich (true) diversity you’ve experienced. Makes me smile thinking about it & I hope you keep fighting to protect your beloved city. MNYGA!
I had made a comment the other day about having Covid a year ago and was attacked by someone who asked me why I thought I had Covid when it didn't exist. I was a zombie and "brainwashed" into believing what they are telling me to believe. I commented that I wasn't going to get into a back and forth whether it's Covid, bioweapon, whatever. I was sick. I told him to take his crap elsewhere. Came back at me full force and accused me of getting angry and I should have worded my Covid explanation differently. Anyway, long story but I deleted the whole thread as he would not stop. My point is my comment meant no harm and wasn't directed at anyone but this person took it upon himself to attack. This thread has been civil but I'm getting to the point of not commenting anymore as there are too many people who love to try to get people to react. That's what I told him and then shut him down. I'm not sure why he took it so personally but it seems it's happening more and more..
Yes...I think I, for one, way over-reacted. For some reason, many of the the comments this morning seemed just randomly grumpy and kind of thoughtless. (Amidst the joyfully generous ones!). I think when I got to about this point in the comms, I was ready to spring. In re-reading the posts above, I realized that I had taken them in the worst possible way — I’m grateful for Angela’s grace in engaging and wow, what an interesting person. From now on, I’ll stick to the kind of encouragement that I’ve come to like so much here and ehjoy writing — we need to stay positive & lift each other up. I had been affected by that negativity & then stupidly wrote. It’s contagious! But, so is encouragement. And we need that in spades right now.
Keep in the conversation, Tracy! You never know how your voice will touch someone.
God, Bless us all and strengthen us in grace, hope and a good sense of humor. (Mine has been lagging lately & a good bit of humor is balm ;))
See. Now this is the way to communicate. I once made a comment that the person took as being arrogant and insulting. I meant it in no such way but apologized and said I was sorry she took it that way. Her response was that she can sometimes be a bit too sensitive and she apologized back.
I also meant in no way to attack your comments. Your language was respectful and I appreciate that. I also know there are people out there that live to cause havoc and love to ramp people up. I just cancel them and it's over.
Have a great weekend and I'll keep posting and being positive.
Can you relate how things are these days in NY? My heart continually turns to the people in NY especially, when I think of the dire predictions re food shortages & supply chains failing. And we constantly hear about crime & city/state mal-management. Where I am, we can be pretty self-sustaining — lots of space & rural farmland. Fairly mild winters, too...
What’s really happening & do you & your community have a plan? Especially re food?
Please dont go all touchy and PC on me. 🙄That is what is wrong with this country today! I am part of an ethnic group and I am a New Yorker through and through, with a handle on the mosaic of my 'homeland' , having grown up and schooled and worked with every group of the great mosaic! Also as the geandaughter of immigrants I don’t get touchy when I hear generalizations about the sociological factors behind my etnic group or any other group. I find sociology intellectually fascinating. PBS did an entire series on each group and the historic whys of how they tend to vote became so much clearer.
Angela, thanks for the correction from your perspective. I'm not in NY and I believe your experience. What I’m seeing where I sit though, is that there’s a huge awakening amongst many minorities.
But my response was not touchy nor PC, in the least; it was based on what I see. I do resist the constant psycho-social push to get us to think in terms of groups and alignments and to see others as individuals; not categorizing people nor belittling them. This is what the manipulators do — and they’ve largely succeeded. We won’t disable that trap until we free ourselves from it, too. That takes grace and effort. Ragging about “them” — the brainwashed — may vent frustration, ally us with other like thinking folks and feel good, but it accomplishes nothing of value, sets our own blinders more firmly in place, and puts us handily in the same trap we’re decrying. Sociology, btw, is the most untrustworthy, inexact, manipulative quasi- science limited hangout on the planet, next to psychology (and modern medicine) — PBS is right up there, too. Not a great rock to build your world view on.
Here's the thing..growing up in NYC we were groups! Catholics, Jews, Irish, Greeks, hispanics, blacks, Italian, Lebanese, etc. Our neighborhoods were built on groups. Yet, we all got along outside of the groups, and got to understand each others group and mentality and culture. Cultural and religious backgrounds are what largely determine peoples views on many things including politics...though I believe in todays American culture wars this may all be getting a bit more fuzzy.
You are right. Many minority individuals are stepping away from the generalizations of yesterday, because todays politics are totally different in so many way
😉 Peace. ✌️
PS: I don't go on about the 'brainwashed'. I try to understand where many people are coming from. I also try not to condemn or criticize. I think we agree ! 👍
Thanks! & Peace to you as well, Angela. God Bless.
PS. My mother was an immigrant, too (Norsk farmer/fisher people who settled in SE Alaska) But I love the thought of you growing up with such vibrant, rich & varied heritages and families all around you. Here in the Northwest, it’s mostly admiring imitation & approximation. We do have a smattering of authentic old world migrants here — mainly in the way of truly ethnic family restaurants, Chinatown, fourth-generation Norwegian fishermen in Seattle, Catholic & Orthodox parishes & some & pockets here & there, & fantastic mexican & asian places. But, nothing is like the rich (true) diversity you’ve experienced. Makes me smile thinking about it & I hope you keep fighting to protect your beloved city. MNYGA!
I had made a comment the other day about having Covid a year ago and was attacked by someone who asked me why I thought I had Covid when it didn't exist. I was a zombie and "brainwashed" into believing what they are telling me to believe. I commented that I wasn't going to get into a back and forth whether it's Covid, bioweapon, whatever. I was sick. I told him to take his crap elsewhere. Came back at me full force and accused me of getting angry and I should have worded my Covid explanation differently. Anyway, long story but I deleted the whole thread as he would not stop. My point is my comment meant no harm and wasn't directed at anyone but this person took it upon himself to attack. This thread has been civil but I'm getting to the point of not commenting anymore as there are too many people who love to try to get people to react. That's what I told him and then shut him down. I'm not sure why he took it so personally but it seems it's happening more and more..
Yes...I think I, for one, way over-reacted. For some reason, many of the the comments this morning seemed just randomly grumpy and kind of thoughtless. (Amidst the joyfully generous ones!). I think when I got to about this point in the comms, I was ready to spring. In re-reading the posts above, I realized that I had taken them in the worst possible way — I’m grateful for Angela’s grace in engaging and wow, what an interesting person. From now on, I’ll stick to the kind of encouragement that I’ve come to like so much here and ehjoy writing — we need to stay positive & lift each other up. I had been affected by that negativity & then stupidly wrote. It’s contagious! But, so is encouragement. And we need that in spades right now.
Keep in the conversation, Tracy! You never know how your voice will touch someone.
God, Bless us all and strengthen us in grace, hope and a good sense of humor. (Mine has been lagging lately & a good bit of humor is balm ;))
See. Now this is the way to communicate. I once made a comment that the person took as being arrogant and insulting. I meant it in no such way but apologized and said I was sorry she took it that way. Her response was that she can sometimes be a bit too sensitive and she apologized back.
I also meant in no way to attack your comments. Your language was respectful and I appreciate that. I also know there are people out there that live to cause havoc and love to ramp people up. I just cancel them and it's over.
Have a great weekend and I'll keep posting and being positive.
Angela, just thinking...
Can you relate how things are these days in NY? My heart continually turns to the people in NY especially, when I think of the dire predictions re food shortages & supply chains failing. And we constantly hear about crime & city/state mal-management. Where I am, we can be pretty self-sustaining — lots of space & rural farmland. Fairly mild winters, too...
What’s really happening & do you & your community have a plan? Especially re food?
Thanks. Praying for New Yorkers.
For 9 years now I have lived in Florida, so I really cannot say.
Ah! Pretty good place to be, I think :)). Glad to hear it..