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FourWinds's avatar

You and me both. It's a SOLAR ECLIPSE, people! They will do anything and everything to stir people up. Will there be traffic jams? Yep! That means people want to go to watch something beautiful, awe inspiring and amazing instead of the darn TV. The horrors!

Our store in closing the pharmacy from 3 -3:30. Why? So we can see the eclipse. I am not there anyhow, but appreciate the company's efforts to get its employees to see the show.

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Chevrus's avatar

Given that the concerted effort to engage as much “creative destruction” and controlled chaos have been ramping up for a while now, it makes sense to catastrophize as much as possible. Brace for impact (or not) because it appears the target goal iOS the cancellation of this upcoming election.

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CStone's avatar

Maybe watching this will explain that eclipses and blood moons are significant and why.

https://youtu.be/3_mcNX99VaU?si=po4zyTXADzSH5hhK

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Vicki Milczewsky's avatar

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!

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John infinity N's's avatar

Thanks for sharing this it looks like I did get a few details wrong in my earlier comment. Pretty cool.

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Paula's avatar

Jim Staley is a criminal and a false teacher. We are to expose them. He teaches a works based salvation.

https://bereanresearch.org/hebrew-roots-founder-jim-staley-admits-defrauding-elderly-investors/

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CStone's avatar

So. Even though he repented. Okay. He’s one of the Best Bible teachers I know of. I don’t know him personally, but friends do. I take it that you don’t believe in repentance.

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TB's avatar

I don't know this preacher at all, but as a general rule I'd expect someone who had repented of anything serious to step down from ministry for a time, and only come back under the authority of another leader who's willing and able to hold them to account. Don't know if this guy has done that or not, just saying.

That said, though I do think God can (and has) used eclipses and other signs, the attempt to squash current events into a futuristic misinterpretation of Revelation is another red flag. If he really is legit, then I'd like to see him prove it with an actual clear prophecy and see it come true (without making any false prophecies in the process!).

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Paula's avatar

One thing, though; there is no prophecy happening today in this dispensation of the grace of God as there are no prophets needed since the word of God has been fulfilled by the Apostle Paul--Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; (Col. 1:25). Today, we have faithful men who are able to teach others--And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also (2 Tim. 2:2). The Church, the body of Christ is instructed by the Lord in 2 Tim. 2:7 & 15:

Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

The one prophecy, i.e. event that the Lord gave the Apostle Paul (to teach the body of Christ) that we are waiting to take place is our blessed hope which takes place before Israel's 7 yr. trib--Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; (Titus 2:13). This is also known as our being caught up to meet the Lord in the air and our (the body of Christ) adoption, the redemption of our body.

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TB's avatar

So, I'm not really seeing how those scriptures are saying that prophecy has ceased.(And I know it's a debated question in the Church today.) But, I would agree that teachers like this guy wouldn't claim to be prophets, but rather to be "explaining" already-existing prophecies. I would still argue that similar standards should apply to them as to someone claiming to give direct prophecy; so, if they "tell you what it means" and get it wrong, then it's a good reason to not listen to them any more.

(And if they can't give a clear enough explanation to be able to test their interpretation, then IMO it's too vague to be useful. We're already told clearly in scripture that we ought to live as if the "master of the house" could return at any moment, so statements of "it will probably be really soon! but I can't tell you any details..." aren't helpful..)

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Paula's avatar

Oh, I was referring to any further "prophetic words" given by a man; in that respect there are no prophets today as the word of God has been fulfilled. As to prophecy for Israel, that is very detailed & exact in the word of God, and we know it is not taking place in this dispensation of grace, because God is not dealing with Israel as a nation, today. She has fallen (Rom. 11:25) and God considers them "not my people", yet satan has blinded the Church, the body of Christ to this truth and has the whole professing Christian world in an uproar that we must bless Israel or be cursed. God is not dealing with nations today; he is building his Church, the body of Christ, saving individuals with the gospel of Christ, to rule with him in the heavenly places. Once the Church is caught up and taken out of this world, then the Lord will begin to deal with Israel as a nation once again and begin to fulfill their prophecies that belong to them. God has a two-fold purpose for heaven and earth; Israel is created to rule with Christ on the earth, and the body of Christ is being formed during this dispensation to reign with Christ in heavenly places; this was kept secret, hid in God until he revealed his plans to the Apostle Paul. satan has these truths hidden from the body of Christ. If we're saved, in order to come unto the knowledge of God's truth we must hear and believe his words to us via his Apostle to us today and study the word of God in a specific way as I pointed out in my previous comment (2 Tim. 2:7; 15).

Just heard this very enlightening study yesterday, and it speaks to the eclipses, red heifer and signs and why this is not from God: https://youtu.be/BPIt3qBuDuw?t=687

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TB's avatar

Interesting. I more or less agree with the first half and not the second. I think it's clear that, to paraphrase, the true children of Abraham are those who have the faith of Abraham, and that any of Israel that rejects the Messiah is cut off from the vine and must repent if they are to be grafted back in. Many Christians today miss this (or are taught the opposite) and so mistakenly think that they are required to support the secular nation of Israel without question, which isn't the case. (Israel may be politically supported for other reasons, but it's not religiously required.)

On the other hand, I think the rapture is a misreading of scripture, and that there won't be a time after that because there's only the Final Judgement to look forward to; therefore, modern-day Jews need to accept Jesus NOW, and not wait for a future messiah that already came.

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Paula's avatar

I'm chuckling because I agree with your first half but not the second. The rapture was a mystery, hid in God, until he revealed it unto the Apostle Paul. God started something new when he saved Paul, and his gospel is via faith alone, no works. Israel's kingdom gospel requires faith plus works and enduring to the end at Christ's second coming. If you compare Israel's Second Coming of Christ to the catching away of the Church, the body of Christ, they are not the same. It takes studying by way of God's instructions to us, and that is to consider what Paul says and the Lord give thee understanding in all things and to study to shew ourselves approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

The Lord teaches his Church that there is a judgment for his body to give account of themselves unto him; it is called the judgement seat of Christ, and it happens after he comes to call his body out of this world, delivering us from the wrath to come (Israel's 7 yr. trib). The final judgement, aka, the Great White Throne Judgment happens at the end of the 1,000 yr. reign of Christ upon the earth.

God wants us to come unto the knowledge of the truth, and there is but one truth that comes from God, and we need to study God's way in order to gain it. Hope you'll consider and search the scriptures (preserved in the KJB) to see if these things be so.

https://graceambassadors.com/tradition/is-the-holy-ghost-confused

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TB's avatar

I mean, I partly agree but not exactly... IMO Paul's letters are pretty clear that God ALWAYS wanted faith, but Israel just kept "not getting it" and focusing on the letter of the law instead. (EG the passage about "abraham was justified by faith"). But it was made absolutely explicit by Christ's coming, and the destruction of the temple "put the seal on the document" for terminating the old covenant.

Comment section isn't really the right place to go much deeper into the theological dispute, so I'll just note that I think passages that are actually about other things (the Final Judgement or the 1st-century Judgement of Jerusalem) are being smooshed together to mistakenly find a Rapture in them. But if I'm understanding it wrong, then may the Spirit show me the truth of it. Either way the #1 thing is to walk with the Lord.

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Paula's avatar

Yes, I do believe in godly sorrow and repentance:

2 Cor. 7:9 Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.

10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

11 For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.

The salvation Paul speaks of here is not in reference to our justification but our sanctified life in Christ being revealed at the judgement seat of Christ where our life in Christ will be examined.

In trying to use godly judgment/discernment of Mr. Staley, it did not appear to me that he had godly sorrow. I looked into him about 5 or 6 years ago because a dear sister in Christ (who was stablished in the faith) started to depart and was listening to this Torah HR false teacher, so I did some examining of him and his teachings. I would be glad to have a discussion with you as to why he's a false teacher if you would have readiness of mind to listen and consider and do your own due diligence to search the scriptures to see if what I say is truth. In order for someone to come unto the knowledge of the truth, one has to have a humble heart and a heart that seeks God's truth and not any man's teaching except it line up w/the word of God (God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged--Rom 3:4). Satan has deceived the world and the members of the body of Christ, the Church, as to what the gospel that saves is and the doctrine to and for the body of Christ.

2 Cor. 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

1 Cor. 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

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Susan Clack's avatar

Ooooooo!! Good one! 💥💥💥🔥🔥🔥😇😇😇

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SadieJay's avatar

We were right under the one in 2017. It was over our town, our house and it was amazing. There was no chaos...there were people renting out fields for RV's and those from out of town. It was a party. People are losing their minds. Like the scene in the movie Independence Day (first one) where all the idiots are on the roofs of high rises with signs saying "WELCOME" and then BAM. Dead.

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FourWinds's avatar

I was losing my mind in 2017, but in the best way possible. I'd never seen something so amazing. I am looking forward to seeing this one!

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SadieJay's avatar

I really felt blessed to be right in the path and it came right over the house. Yes, I meant people are losing their minds in a bad way, not a scientific/creation kind of way.

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Susan Clack's avatar

I like to use Mars Attacks as my go-to for an alien invasion scenario…laughing about the Martian ambassador at the White House, meeting the POTUS (Jack Nicholson) . Lately, I try to envision Brandon & Dr Jill in those hilarious scenes. 🙄🙄🙄

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JP Spatzier's avatar

When I went to school, we all went out & watched it after making glasses that week. So much fun 🤩

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JP Spatzier's avatar

But I am creeped out about this one.

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liz's avatar

and well you should be. Those who would control us will use it to their advantage.

being in denial wont help

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Gram's avatar

Chronologist's view on eclipse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCaVUCc_KCw

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JP Spatzier's avatar

I’m not in denial.. I know exactly what they have in mind 🙏

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Gram's avatar

Navajo elder speaks about eclipse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJRal7YnmF0

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IvyRose's avatar

To see and record the eclipse safely without looking with your naked eye, use your smart phone video/photo option in 'selfie' mode to view it in your phone. You will be able to see it 'over your shoulder' in your phone, without damaging your your eyes. The old pinhole in the box works too.

Sorry if this has already already been said.

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