You don't accidentally skip all of the testing that is normally *required* by law and regulation before releasing a drug to market, much less mandating it. Criminal, all the way.
That is who is running the country. Criminal cartels. Above the cartels is the nwo with a planned, systemic, destruction of our nation. The only way out of this is to return wholeheartedly to our Christian roots.
I'll agree Jo McEvoy, but Jesus also told his Disciples to sell their extra tunic and purchase a sword. I am probably wrong, but I see sitting in a prayer closet all day liken to faith without works. We must be out and active doing as Jesus did.
The effective fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
James 5:16b
I remember a preacher talking about visiting a monastery in Italy years ago. He observed the men praying throughout the day and into the night, their prayers never ceased. He asked the tour guide what they were praying 24 hours a day. "China, they're praying for China." The preacher didn't understand why they would pray for one thing only.... then he met a missionary from China who had heard of the prayers from the monastery. "We felt the prayers of everyone at that monastery, they continually lifted us up and allowed us to do extraordinary things for the Lord. Without those prayers, we would have missed a great connection to the work of the Holy Spirit."
Prayers are vitally and vastly important. They are our instantaneous connection to our heavenly Father. I will never doubt their worth.
Knowing there are folks confined to bed who use their time praying, brings me great hope. Those prayers are as important as the feet that bring good news.
Reading This Present Darkness again by Frank Peretti. If nothing else, it shows how prayer makes a difference and frees up the Host of Heaven to fight on our behalf. But, I always copper up, in case I am needed to protect what is mine.
Read the chapter 1 I provided a link for as a comment on this comment by MVARR. If you think “required” testing would’ve saved anyone then you need to read chapter 1 of Turtles All The away Down. Shocking and yet unsurprising knowing what we know now. 😞
I remember Robert Malone saying that they wanted to call it a vaccine, not gene therapy, because a designation of gene therapy would necessitate much more testing, especially its effects on fertility.
The dismissal of Brook Jackson’s lawsuit against the terminally corrupt Pfizer tells us they’re practically eternal. Some very savvy lawyers, biologists, and medical personnel must put their heads together to end it.
Nor do they require any GMP (Good Manufacturing Practices) in the DoD contracted production facilities. Sasha Latypova revealed this, how there's literally no consistency across the lots or batches of vials. Each one has dofferent contents. The DoD contracts don't even require there to be any such quality controls!
Yeah I thought the same thing. Blunder implies not on purpose. I don’t see how it could’ve been an accident, especially in light of the poorly conducted clinical trials and all of the ignoring and gaslighting of the jab injured.
I think most of us know the answer, but in the name of being level headed and allowing for some wiggle room, let's entertain mere incompetence. If that were the case, might it not be a reasonable and even charitable response to at very least acknowledge that a considerable and harmful error was made? Why the silence? How about the militant suppression and aggressive cancellation imparted upon anyone who dared question the (now defunct) narrative? Perhaps it is because even the slightest admission will trigger millions of angry and bereaved citizens to rise up and give new meaning to 'class-action'? Come now hallowed institutions charged with protecting the great unwashed, where is your voice now? We can see clearly that you are shuffling your ranks, replacing old faces with (even more) compliant new ones. What is it that you are preparing for? Why is it that we keep hearing about "the next one"? Would it not be a safe and effective idea to clear up some of the considerable issues with the covid narrative and the "treatments"? Many of us are waiting with bated breath. Please don't disspoint.
"Perhaps it is because even the slightest admission will trigger millions of angry and bereaved citizens to rise up and give new meaning to 'class-action'?"
This is why I believe it will take years & years to uncover and unpack the scam. In fact, I would bet $'s that I most likely won't live long enough to see full transparency...in this life anyways. I think class action suits will be the least of worries.
Yes well, as I have mentioned before: there is a fantastical scenario where the heartbroken Karen with nothing to loose straps on a custom made vest and charges in to the boardroom...entirely fictional of course.
No innocent stupidity. Very calculated and strategically perpetrated on a population that had already been conditioned and ripe for an evil depopulation agenda. And it started long ago. I just finished a couple chapters of Turtles All The Way Down by the Children’s Health Defense. Here is a link to read chapter one as provided in the book for free to share. If THIS chapter doesn’t clue you in to how long ago they started their criminal activities then I don’t know what will. It made me sick to my stomach. I wish there were a way to purge all the “vaccines” I got over my 50+ years.
PS - I have never gotten a flu shot. All my vaxxes except 1 were childhood. I let my dr talk me into a pneumonia “vax” in 2019 and I went along even though I didn’t want it. Because I turned their magical age 🙄. I feel relieved that I rejected the many over the years, but sad for the ones I did get.
From reading Turtles (and I read foreword and introduction, skipped to polio, now am back to first chaps, I realize that if I had the chance to 'do it over again' I would not let any any any vax into my children.
Talking with a fellow (in Maine) last month--he remarked that his children had never had any vax ever. And were healthy beasts. His nephews and neices, however, vaxxed like most children, were continually sick. Can't say I saw this in my children, but youngest was born in '87 so perhaps missed most. On the other hand she was conned into taking Gardasil. 18 at the time, so parent was not with her at appt.
We know a few families that never vaxxed their kids, and they are healthier than most and none are on the 'spectrum' either..... We were dead set against chicken pox and Gardasil! Our children had chicken pox at an early age. Had a friend who argued with me that they still needed to be vaccinated against the pox. Her girls got jabbed and boosted for chicken pox and later as teenagers got very bad cases of the pox where one actually spent a week in the hospital - they couldn't keep her fever down and had breathing difficulties. Our children didn't have any complications from getting chicken pox other than a very few small scars....and now have natural immunity.
By vaxing for chicken pox at a young age, they've increased the cases of older teenagers to get it and it's also severely increased the cases of shingles in older folks. Something about the wild type disease kinda naturally innoculated the older folks, but the vax stops that from happening. The doctor that ran the cp vax trials in California noticed it, and brought it to the California Health Sept, the CDC and FDA's attention and was squashed. He finally quit on ethical grounds. I think it was a 3 part documentary, can't remember the name of it! Ugh!
Wow, I will have to look for that documentary! Hopefully it has not been scrubbed. This just sounds all too familiar! All to corrupt our God given, by design, in His mage, body made to heal!! Thank you.
Ugh! I typed out a big old long comment and when I hit "post", I wasn't logged in, so it disappeared! 😡 Anyway, I'm sorry I can't remember which documentary this was but while looking for links of all the documentaries I've watched, I found a Rumble channel called "Vaccine Documentaries Throughout The Years" which lists most of the ones I had typed out. James Corbett has some good videos, too.
Thank you! Hate when that happens! Yes, James has been a great source of information too!! Been following him for a few years and so glad for him! Will look into the Rumble channel, appreciate your sharing!
Me too! I wish I had known then what I know now. I’m educating myself now for my grandkids and nieces and nephews kids. That’s what got me reading TATWD. It isn’t for me or my kids but for the ones that are coming along now.
Credenda, I also. Within (less than) last 10 years, ook the flu jab twice, and the pneumonia (which really gave bad reaction). D.O. urged another pneu. on me, 4 years ago, because I was 69--I refused.
On my first visit with an ENT physician for a Eustachian tube issue, he spent the first 15 minutes trying to push several vaccines. I politely listened - nice try Doc.
I just want 'them' to leave us alone. Is that too much to ask? I know what I know and that it has all been leading up to a moment in the future. I wish it would just happen already. I feel like I am constantly bracing for impact.
Wish I had never had any and especially that I had never allowed them for our young person. I didn’t see a need for hep B or hep A or rotavirus, but didn’t see any harm so just went along. Now, who knows but that some of the gut issues this person is experiencing are related to the rotavirus.
I understand that hospitals are injecting HepB on day of birth. Daughter age 40 daily expects to deliver twins---having twice birthed at home, is now required to use hospital. I am in fear--no, cannot say that--I am concerned, because God has it in hand. Need I point out that she is unvaxxed (else wouldn't be about to deliver)?
In prior times she absolutely would have easily been able to decline the hep B vaccines.
It should be the case now. But she should reiterate to every single person (nurse and doctor) who comes into the room that she does not want x, y, and x. It is here right as a mama. Just have her make it clear up front from the beginning.
I am saying a prayer right now for an uneventful delivery, at term, without complications for the little ones. God bless you all.
Thank you so much, Copernicus! I have been praying for these babes since I learned of their existence in January. She and husband (and boys) in Toronto managed to defy the Canadian system and have remained pure as to the blood.
Have her “room in” 24/7 with her baby. I would also put it in writing that her baby will not be given any medications or injections of any kind without permission from the parents. Have them put a copy on the chart and a copy in her room. Speak to both her pediatrician and her OBGYN before hand and let them know her decisions on these things. Make sure you date the documents and if possible have them notorized. And get out as soon as she and the baby are stable.
Have a patient advocate with a Medical Directive!!! PRINTED out and SIGNED with all parties. As well as multiple Copies. Also have it NOTARIZED BEFORE admission to the hospital. Inform multiple family members as well. Document everything!!!
As it turns out, babes were born last Thursday night, at 6#13 oz (girl) and 7#15 oz (boy) making a family of 3 boys and 1 girl (just like the families in which husband and I grew up in). We have had only two notes from her--initial of birth, and today of corrected weights, names, and nursing (Hallelujah, thank you Lord). Don't know anything about whether they were jabbed in any fashion.
Congratulations ViaVeritasVita!! How exciting and wonderful! Praise God from whom ALL blessings flow!! They were good sized babies for twins! You’re all in my prayers for God’s protection and richest blessings! Thank you for sharing your joy! 🩷💙
You’re so welcome! I just looked back and realized you mentioned twins!! Oh my, that is twice as exciting and wonderful! Are you planning to be there? I’m going to pray that everything goes smoothly with her labor, delivery and recovery, that the babies are healthy, and that the hospital staff will respect her wishes. May God bless your family at this special time!!
No problem! I’m an RN and worked in OB for 27 out of my 32 years of practice. In the beginning of my career most mom’s wanted natural childbirth with as little intervention or medication as necessary in a relaxed “homelike” environment. Then it moved to epidurals, IV Pitocin inductions and other meds, and continual monitoring of the mom and baby. It was no longer as rewarding when we had to pay as much or more attention to the machines than to the patient(s). After all we have seen in the healthcare profession and hospitals recently I hope it will swing back the other way.
As I was rising this morning, it came to me that the growth in use of pharma for women in labor may just be that hospital gets to bill for every single "intervention". How our eyes have been opened by the medical fraud of 2020-23!
You corroborate what I thought I was observing---I birthed 1978-82, was prepared to fight for a natural birth, but finding Booth Maternity Hospital in Phila, run by Salvation Army, and just about the first in the country to offer nurse midwives, I didn't need to be aggressive. All 3 were born there. But more recently in my middle school, I noted several of the young teachers expecting to get one kind or another of drug during labor. My 'cohort' fought not to drug the baby before birth, these women seem to be made of tissue paper?
And many of them are impatient and want to choose their delivery day and will beg their doctor to induce them. Although there are some legitimate reasons to be induced, it’s very sad that often the mom is just tired of being pregnant.
Regarding induction, an anecdote from 30-ish years ago:
SIL, wanting to be attended by her chosen OB, who was going out ( on vacation? don't remember), had choice of: wait for baby's time and have another attendant, or, have birth with chosen OB and induction. She chose the latter. Baby was born, oxygen was given, baby was never 'quite right'. To my mind and experience of child, child at 2,3 was retarded. SIL never (2 previous births) had a totally 'natural' childbirth, choosing (as MIL put it) just a little something to get over the pain.
Age and multiples (she's 40, holding twins)--or so they tell her. They also tell her she cannot exclusively nurse two (she is child of a nursing-only mother, is mother to two only-nursed boys). What's going on? This is Canada running the show. (We her parents, like her, are US citizens). I fear she is getting overwhelmed, and do so very much thank you for your prayers. Wherever two or more are gathered in my name.....
THANK YOU! When I was first pregnant in 1978, the word was that nature didn't know how many babies you had birthed, so offered enough milk to feed more than one, and within a short time regulated the supply to suit the offspring.
Good grief. Absolutely she can nurse two. It will be harder, and she may choose to pump and have a family member bottle feed sometimes. But hogwash she can’t nurse two. God made a woman’s body on purpose for exactly this.
It may be a medicolegal thing for the nurse midwife or whomever does home deliveries - may not have coverage for home deliveries in certain situations. 🤷🏼♀️
A year and a half ago my daughter after having had a home birth found herself in the hospital after going into premature labor at 34 weeks. Neither of her other two children are vaccinated. It was constant hassle by the doctors to vaccinate her child and in my opinion harassment by the doctors to meet certain criteria before they would release the baby. I had a 6 1/2 week premature baby 30 years ago so I am basing this on my experience. Your daughter must be tough and stand her ground. This is her body and her baby! She will live with the consequences not the doctor. Big Brother in the Exam Room by Twila Brasse is about medical privacy and records.
Can you organize a 24-hour vigil of people to stay with your daughter and the twins to be sure that they are not vaxxed? She should be able to request no vax and they'll post it, but I would still try to have someone keep an eye on the babies 24/7 while in the hospital.
Thank you, Peace--I think it quite possible, and sent this suggestion off to her this morning. She is part of a really powerful ( I say this having been able to attend a service in April), really small church (who had a baby shower for her, and one member had given her a list of twin-things being offered from twin-mothers.
Said a prayer for you, Copernicus. That Jehovah Rappa, God is My Healer, will protect you and cleanse your body from all negative reactions to the shots. In Jesus name.
I agree. I totally regret taking them for myself but especially for poisoning my boys with vaccines. I just pray their bodies are strong enough to overcome all the shit that was pumped into them. I calculated at least 46 separate jabs. Nuts! One good thing, if they have children 🙏🏼 they’ve said “no vaccines!”
Thanks for chapter 1 of Turtles. I sent the book to my niece, who is battling her husband’s family on not vaccinating her precious baby girl.
Like you, I had the childhood shots but they were few (I’m 66). I had a couple tetanus shots in my teens as I had horses. I was made to get a rubella shot to get a marriage license (?!). Fast forward to 2020, I refused the C19 jabs but did get the shingles shots.
Bottom line, I was never anti-vax until now. Will never get vaxxed again, nor will my indoor cats! Silver lining of the plandemic is how many are now proud anti-vaxxers!
The plandemic shined a bright light on what kinds of shenanigans they’ve been doing all along. I was sound asleep most of my life 😴 concerning vaxxes. I thought the anti childhood vaxxers were a bit on the extreme side, HOWEVER I never felt bad for their choice not to vax. It was their right. Now I’m very in tune and will proudly defend our right to decline every vax they try to shove down our throats from here on out including and especially kids. 💪🏻
You echo my life pretty closely--but rubella was no requirement in 1972--had not heard of that until your post. We had to show proof of no venereal disease (don't remember which one)
Well, there is the "bad batch" theory. I think there was even a website for "how bad is my batch" or similar that started some basic tracking of people self-reporting adverse effects and noted that some batches were much worse than others. (Like the ones given to politicians were probably pretty safe overall.)
I know of (don’t know them personally) two sisters who succumbed to turbo brain cancer after taking the jabs. From diagnosis to death both were gone within 4 weeks.
How in the world can doctors claim that "we don't know" is a better answer than "maybe it was the experimental product recently injected into the patient"?
And why in the world do patients accept that answer?
Assuming politicians and other favored folks got a real mRNA jab. I've never been inclined to believe in conspiracy theories but it sure would be easy to give the favored folks a saline shot and pretend it was the real thing. SMDH....
Well, he is a husk of a man.... And you are right about the taste of rhubarb. I've had it in pie and wine (both times with strawberries) and both were yummy.
I honestly believe that there were batches that were basically saline. Ask a handful of people who got the shots and each one has a different experience of symptoms --from "nothing" to "entire body on fire"! AND some people had differences just from first shot to second shot!!
I saw this...there was a dramatic difference in the first shot for me vs. the 2nd. One of them had almost zero reactions or deaths and the other had quite a few. I can't remember which. Thankfully compared to some of the other batches, even my bad one wasn't all that high. It's still so stressful though. We're all just waiting to see what happens and wishing we'd known then what we know now.
Do you follow Sasha Latypova on substack? The DoD contracts prove none of these "prototype countermeasures" (that's what the DoD contracted for, NOT a medical treatment called a vaccine) happened by accident.
If McKernan’s vials are typical of what was injected into billions of people, we are looking at a pharmaceutical blunder .
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blunder implies innocent stupidity.
how about malevolent catastrophe.
You don't accidentally skip all of the testing that is normally *required* by law and regulation before releasing a drug to market, much less mandating it. Criminal, all the way.
That is who is running the country. Criminal cartels. Above the cartels is the nwo with a planned, systemic, destruction of our nation. The only way out of this is to return wholeheartedly to our Christian roots.
Amen.
I'll agree Jo McEvoy, but Jesus also told his Disciples to sell their extra tunic and purchase a sword. I am probably wrong, but I see sitting in a prayer closet all day liken to faith without works. We must be out and active doing as Jesus did.
Yep...wrong.
The effective fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
James 5:16b
I remember a preacher talking about visiting a monastery in Italy years ago. He observed the men praying throughout the day and into the night, their prayers never ceased. He asked the tour guide what they were praying 24 hours a day. "China, they're praying for China." The preacher didn't understand why they would pray for one thing only.... then he met a missionary from China who had heard of the prayers from the monastery. "We felt the prayers of everyone at that monastery, they continually lifted us up and allowed us to do extraordinary things for the Lord. Without those prayers, we would have missed a great connection to the work of the Holy Spirit."
Prayers are vitally and vastly important. They are our instantaneous connection to our heavenly Father. I will never doubt their worth.
Knowing there are folks confined to bed who use their time praying, brings me great hope. Those prayers are as important as the feet that bring good news.
Reading This Present Darkness again by Frank Peretti. If nothing else, it shows how prayer makes a difference and frees up the Host of Heaven to fight on our behalf. But, I always copper up, in case I am needed to protect what is mine.
I enjoyed many of his books!
Read the chapter 1 I provided a link for as a comment on this comment by MVARR. If you think “required” testing would’ve saved anyone then you need to read chapter 1 of Turtles All The away Down. Shocking and yet unsurprising knowing what we know now. 😞
Turtles is good reading. Have been working on it for a month.
I remember Robert Malone saying that they wanted to call it a vaccine, not gene therapy, because a designation of gene therapy would necessitate much more testing, especially its effects on fertility.
Even the FDA referred to the emerging mRNA technology as “gene therapy” until around 2020, when it magically became a “vaccine”.
Moderna literally calls it the' SOFTWARE' of life!! Computer generated!!
I recall a video of Zuckerburg saying he was going to wait to get the (jab) because it was gene therapy.
Early I read the patent paperwork on Moderna specifically stating it was “gene therapy.”
The dismissal of Brook Jackson’s lawsuit against the terminally corrupt Pfizer tells us they’re practically eternal. Some very savvy lawyers, biologists, and medical personnel must put their heads together to end it.
Check out Highwires latest episode with Aaron Siri!! State leaders! Exactly what we need!
Thanks!
Exactly! This comment!!!
Nor do they require any GMP (Good Manufacturing Practices) in the DoD contracted production facilities. Sasha Latypova revealed this, how there's literally no consistency across the lots or batches of vials. Each one has dofferent contents. The DoD contracts don't even require there to be any such quality controls!
Yeah I thought the same thing. Blunder implies not on purpose. I don’t see how it could’ve been an accident, especially in light of the poorly conducted clinical trials and all of the ignoring and gaslighting of the jab injured.
Malice or incompetence ??
I think most of us know the answer, but in the name of being level headed and allowing for some wiggle room, let's entertain mere incompetence. If that were the case, might it not be a reasonable and even charitable response to at very least acknowledge that a considerable and harmful error was made? Why the silence? How about the militant suppression and aggressive cancellation imparted upon anyone who dared question the (now defunct) narrative? Perhaps it is because even the slightest admission will trigger millions of angry and bereaved citizens to rise up and give new meaning to 'class-action'? Come now hallowed institutions charged with protecting the great unwashed, where is your voice now? We can see clearly that you are shuffling your ranks, replacing old faces with (even more) compliant new ones. What is it that you are preparing for? Why is it that we keep hearing about "the next one"? Would it not be a safe and effective idea to clear up some of the considerable issues with the covid narrative and the "treatments"? Many of us are waiting with bated breath. Please don't disspoint.
This pandemic was a strategically premeditated & orchestrated global mass murder operation planned for decades. Quite possibly longer.
Well yeah there is that...
"Perhaps it is because even the slightest admission will trigger millions of angry and bereaved citizens to rise up and give new meaning to 'class-action'?"
This is why I believe it will take years & years to uncover and unpack the scam. In fact, I would bet $'s that I most likely won't live long enough to see full transparency...in this life anyways. I think class action suits will be the least of worries.
Yes well, as I have mentioned before: there is a fantastical scenario where the heartbroken Karen with nothing to loose straps on a custom made vest and charges in to the boardroom...entirely fictional of course.
Ok, you've planted a visual in my mind I probably won't be able to unsee. Lol.
Exactly right.
I call it Malice and Malevolence disguised as Ineptitude and Incompetence.
Thinly veiled, to any one with eyes and ears and a bit of critical thinking, at least.
No innocent stupidity. Very calculated and strategically perpetrated on a population that had already been conditioned and ripe for an evil depopulation agenda. And it started long ago. I just finished a couple chapters of Turtles All The Way Down by the Children’s Health Defense. Here is a link to read chapter one as provided in the book for free to share. If THIS chapter doesn’t clue you in to how long ago they started their criminal activities then I don’t know what will. It made me sick to my stomach. I wish there were a way to purge all the “vaccines” I got over my 50+ years.
https://tinyurl.com/TurtlesBookChap1Eng
PS - I have never gotten a flu shot. All my vaxxes except 1 were childhood. I let my dr talk me into a pneumonia “vax” in 2019 and I went along even though I didn’t want it. Because I turned their magical age 🙄. I feel relieved that I rejected the many over the years, but sad for the ones I did get.
From reading Turtles (and I read foreword and introduction, skipped to polio, now am back to first chaps, I realize that if I had the chance to 'do it over again' I would not let any any any vax into my children.
Same, it breaks my heart that ours had any jabs at all!!
Talking with a fellow (in Maine) last month--he remarked that his children had never had any vax ever. And were healthy beasts. His nephews and neices, however, vaxxed like most children, were continually sick. Can't say I saw this in my children, but youngest was born in '87 so perhaps missed most. On the other hand she was conned into taking Gardasil. 18 at the time, so parent was not with her at appt.
We know a few families that never vaxxed their kids, and they are healthier than most and none are on the 'spectrum' either..... We were dead set against chicken pox and Gardasil! Our children had chicken pox at an early age. Had a friend who argued with me that they still needed to be vaccinated against the pox. Her girls got jabbed and boosted for chicken pox and later as teenagers got very bad cases of the pox where one actually spent a week in the hospital - they couldn't keep her fever down and had breathing difficulties. Our children didn't have any complications from getting chicken pox other than a very few small scars....and now have natural immunity.
By vaxing for chicken pox at a young age, they've increased the cases of older teenagers to get it and it's also severely increased the cases of shingles in older folks. Something about the wild type disease kinda naturally innoculated the older folks, but the vax stops that from happening. The doctor that ran the cp vax trials in California noticed it, and brought it to the California Health Sept, the CDC and FDA's attention and was squashed. He finally quit on ethical grounds. I think it was a 3 part documentary, can't remember the name of it! Ugh!
Wow, I will have to look for that documentary! Hopefully it has not been scrubbed. This just sounds all too familiar! All to corrupt our God given, by design, in His mage, body made to heal!! Thank you.
Ugh! I typed out a big old long comment and when I hit "post", I wasn't logged in, so it disappeared! 😡 Anyway, I'm sorry I can't remember which documentary this was but while looking for links of all the documentaries I've watched, I found a Rumble channel called "Vaccine Documentaries Throughout The Years" which lists most of the ones I had typed out. James Corbett has some good videos, too.
Thank you! Hate when that happens! Yes, James has been a great source of information too!! Been following him for a few years and so glad for him! Will look into the Rumble channel, appreciate your sharing!
Me too.
Worst thing I ever allowed.
All we can do is keep learning and move forward 🥰
Me too! I wish I had known then what I know now. I’m educating myself now for my grandkids and nieces and nephews kids. That’s what got me reading TATWD. It isn’t for me or my kids but for the ones that are coming along now.
Just finally ordered the book. Like you, I wish I hadn’t taken any. I was even cajoled into taking a few as an adult by well-meaning friends.
Credenda, I also. Within (less than) last 10 years, ook the flu jab twice, and the pneumonia (which really gave bad reaction). D.O. urged another pneu. on me, 4 years ago, because I was 69--I refused.
On my first visit with an ENT physician for a Eustachian tube issue, he spent the first 15 minutes trying to push several vaccines. I politely listened - nice try Doc.
Glad you are reading the book too. I’m trying to spread it around to as many as I can.
I just want 'them' to leave us alone. Is that too much to ask? I know what I know and that it has all been leading up to a moment in the future. I wish it would just happen already. I feel like I am constantly bracing for impact.
But we live and we learn.
Can you share the link please?
I ordered it from AMazon. It was about $20 for the paperback.
Thank you.
https://tinyurl.com/TurtlesBookChap1Eng
This is the link so you can read chapter 1. Otherwise you gotta buy the book. Worth every penny.
Thanks. I found it!!
Ditto.
Wish I had never had any and especially that I had never allowed them for our young person. I didn’t see a need for hep B or hep A or rotavirus, but didn’t see any harm so just went along. Now, who knows but that some of the gut issues this person is experiencing are related to the rotavirus.
I understand that hospitals are injecting HepB on day of birth. Daughter age 40 daily expects to deliver twins---having twice birthed at home, is now required to use hospital. I am in fear--no, cannot say that--I am concerned, because God has it in hand. Need I point out that she is unvaxxed (else wouldn't be about to deliver)?
In prior times she absolutely would have easily been able to decline the hep B vaccines.
It should be the case now. But she should reiterate to every single person (nurse and doctor) who comes into the room that she does not want x, y, and x. It is here right as a mama. Just have her make it clear up front from the beginning.
I am saying a prayer right now for an uneventful delivery, at term, without complications for the little ones. God bless you all.
Thank you so much, Copernicus! I have been praying for these babes since I learned of their existence in January. She and husband (and boys) in Toronto managed to defy the Canadian system and have remained pure as to the blood.
Thank you, Copernicus.
Have her “room in” 24/7 with her baby. I would also put it in writing that her baby will not be given any medications or injections of any kind without permission from the parents. Have them put a copy on the chart and a copy in her room. Speak to both her pediatrician and her OBGYN before hand and let them know her decisions on these things. Make sure you date the documents and if possible have them notorized. And get out as soon as she and the baby are stable.
Have a patient advocate with a Medical Directive!!! PRINTED out and SIGNED with all parties. As well as multiple Copies. Also have it NOTARIZED BEFORE admission to the hospital. Inform multiple family members as well. Document everything!!!
Thank you, JustANobody--I sent your comment off this morning.
You are quite welcome. I pray it helps. Good Luck.
As it turns out, babes were born last Thursday night, at 6#13 oz (girl) and 7#15 oz (boy) making a family of 3 boys and 1 girl (just like the families in which husband and I grew up in). We have had only two notes from her--initial of birth, and today of corrected weights, names, and nursing (Hallelujah, thank you Lord). Don't know anything about whether they were jabbed in any fashion.
Congratulations ViaVeritasVita!! How exciting and wonderful! Praise God from whom ALL blessings flow!! They were good sized babies for twins! You’re all in my prayers for God’s protection and richest blessings! Thank you for sharing your joy! 🩷💙
Thank you for this information, Julie Ann--I sent it to her this morning.
You’re so welcome! I just looked back and realized you mentioned twins!! Oh my, that is twice as exciting and wonderful! Are you planning to be there? I’m going to pray that everything goes smoothly with her labor, delivery and recovery, that the babies are healthy, and that the hospital staff will respect her wishes. May God bless your family at this special time!!
So sorry. Just saw that you wrote basically what I stated!! Great Advice!!
No problem! I’m an RN and worked in OB for 27 out of my 32 years of practice. In the beginning of my career most mom’s wanted natural childbirth with as little intervention or medication as necessary in a relaxed “homelike” environment. Then it moved to epidurals, IV Pitocin inductions and other meds, and continual monitoring of the mom and baby. It was no longer as rewarding when we had to pay as much or more attention to the machines than to the patient(s). After all we have seen in the healthcare profession and hospitals recently I hope it will swing back the other way.
As I was rising this morning, it came to me that the growth in use of pharma for women in labor may just be that hospital gets to bill for every single "intervention". How our eyes have been opened by the medical fraud of 2020-23!
You corroborate what I thought I was observing---I birthed 1978-82, was prepared to fight for a natural birth, but finding Booth Maternity Hospital in Phila, run by Salvation Army, and just about the first in the country to offer nurse midwives, I didn't need to be aggressive. All 3 were born there. But more recently in my middle school, I noted several of the young teachers expecting to get one kind or another of drug during labor. My 'cohort' fought not to drug the baby before birth, these women seem to be made of tissue paper?
Corrigendum: 1978-1987
And many of them are impatient and want to choose their delivery day and will beg their doctor to induce them. Although there are some legitimate reasons to be induced, it’s very sad that often the mom is just tired of being pregnant.
Regarding induction, an anecdote from 30-ish years ago:
SIL, wanting to be attended by her chosen OB, who was going out ( on vacation? don't remember), had choice of: wait for baby's time and have another attendant, or, have birth with chosen OB and induction. She chose the latter. Baby was born, oxygen was given, baby was never 'quite right'. To my mind and experience of child, child at 2,3 was retarded. SIL never (2 previous births) had a totally 'natural' childbirth, choosing (as MIL put it) just a little something to get over the pain.
I believe it will change. Too many are so dissolutioned. Thank you for your expertise.
Check advise and paperwork to fill out in advance:
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/-hospital-covid-guide-10-
Thanks, Based!
DITTO THIS ABOVE!!!!
Why is she REQUIRED? Does she have pregnancy issues. ? I am praying for her and those babies.
Age and multiples (she's 40, holding twins)--or so they tell her. They also tell her she cannot exclusively nurse two (she is child of a nursing-only mother, is mother to two only-nursed boys). What's going on? This is Canada running the show. (We her parents, like her, are US citizens). I fear she is getting overwhelmed, and do so very much thank you for your prayers. Wherever two or more are gathered in my name.....
I’m a lactation consultant. That’s a crock of Shit. She can nurse two babies fine. Biggest concern is prematurity to nursing.
THANK YOU! When I was first pregnant in 1978, the word was that nature didn't know how many babies you had birthed, so offered enough milk to feed more than one, and within a short time regulated the supply to suit the offspring.
Good grief. Absolutely she can nurse two. It will be harder, and she may choose to pump and have a family member bottle feed sometimes. But hogwash she can’t nurse two. God made a woman’s body on purpose for exactly this.
It may be a medicolegal thing for the nurse midwife or whomever does home deliveries - may not have coverage for home deliveries in certain situations. 🤷🏼♀️
Her first two were home deliveries--baby #2 gave his mother only 45 minutes warning before appearing. She has not had difficulty!
That is very evil. Will cover your daughter in prayer.
That is the strongest help. Thank you so much.
Praying for your daughter as well.
Thank you, Sunnydaze--you know how powerful that is.
Praying for her as well!! 🙏
Thank you for your prayers, Running Logic. Every voice adds strength.
You are welcome. Blessings!
A year and a half ago my daughter after having had a home birth found herself in the hospital after going into premature labor at 34 weeks. Neither of her other two children are vaccinated. It was constant hassle by the doctors to vaccinate her child and in my opinion harassment by the doctors to meet certain criteria before they would release the baby. I had a 6 1/2 week premature baby 30 years ago so I am basing this on my experience. Your daughter must be tough and stand her ground. This is her body and her baby! She will live with the consequences not the doctor. Big Brother in the Exam Room by Twila Brasse is about medical privacy and records.
Can you organize a 24-hour vigil of people to stay with your daughter and the twins to be sure that they are not vaxxed? She should be able to request no vax and they'll post it, but I would still try to have someone keep an eye on the babies 24/7 while in the hospital.
Thank you, Peace--I think it quite possible, and sent this suggestion off to her this morning. She is part of a really powerful ( I say this having been able to attend a service in April), really small church (who had a baby shower for her, and one member had given her a list of twin-things being offered from twin-mothers.
Ooh, that sounds promising to have the church help with a vigil. Keep us posted!
Said a prayer for you, Copernicus. That Jehovah Rappa, God is My Healer, will protect you and cleanse your body from all negative reactions to the shots. In Jesus name.
Thanks! These are, thankfully “just” the old fashioned kind. Not the latest Safe and Effective, thank God.
I agree. I totally regret taking them for myself but especially for poisoning my boys with vaccines. I just pray their bodies are strong enough to overcome all the shit that was pumped into them. I calculated at least 46 separate jabs. Nuts! One good thing, if they have children 🙏🏼 they’ve said “no vaccines!”
To be clear, none of us took C19 jabs.
Thanks for chapter 1 of Turtles. I sent the book to my niece, who is battling her husband’s family on not vaccinating her precious baby girl.
Like you, I had the childhood shots but they were few (I’m 66). I had a couple tetanus shots in my teens as I had horses. I was made to get a rubella shot to get a marriage license (?!). Fast forward to 2020, I refused the C19 jabs but did get the shingles shots.
Bottom line, I was never anti-vax until now. Will never get vaxxed again, nor will my indoor cats! Silver lining of the plandemic is how many are now proud anti-vaxxers!
It’s true isn’t it? 🙌
The plandemic shined a bright light on what kinds of shenanigans they’ve been doing all along. I was sound asleep most of my life 😴 concerning vaxxes. I thought the anti childhood vaxxers were a bit on the extreme side, HOWEVER I never felt bad for their choice not to vax. It was their right. Now I’m very in tune and will proudly defend our right to decline every vax they try to shove down our throats from here on out including and especially kids. 💪🏻
Wow--you speak for me in every one of your words.
This Coffee and Covid space is pretty amazing.
You echo my life pretty closely--but rubella was no requirement in 1972--had not heard of that until your post. We had to show proof of no venereal disease (don't remember which one)
Thinking about this again--what on earth does a rubella shot have to do with marriage license? Crazy.
Well, there is the "bad batch" theory. I think there was even a website for "how bad is my batch" or similar that started some basic tracking of people self-reporting adverse effects and noted that some batches were much worse than others. (Like the ones given to politicians were probably pretty safe overall.)
Ask Jamie Foxx and Damar Hamlin how safe their experimental injections were?
I know of (don’t know them personally) two sisters who succumbed to turbo brain cancer after taking the jabs. From diagnosis to death both were gone within 4 weeks.
3 WEEKS HERE!! TURBO CANCER! MY KIDS FATHER OCT. 2021!
😞😞😞
SO SORRY!😥
Just how is Damar, heard crickets about that lately.
He apparently was cleared to play this coming season.
It was asked...they insist it wasn't from the shots at all--just random! 🙄
How in the world can doctors claim that "we don't know" is a better answer than "maybe it was the experimental product recently injected into the patient"?
And why in the world do patients accept that answer?
Assuming politicians and other favored folks got a real mRNA jab. I've never been inclined to believe in conspiracy theories but it sure would be easy to give the favored folks a saline shot and pretend it was the real thing. SMDH....
It rather appears as though someone skipped the saline with Senator Feinstein.
And Fetterman, the Giant Walking Rhubarb.
Rhubarb is too delicious to be associated with that freak! Giant walking corn stalk is preferable imo 😆
Well, he is a husk of a man.... And you are right about the taste of rhubarb. I've had it in pie and wine (both times with strawberries) and both were yummy.
I think whatever we choose to call him will be an insult to whatever we choose to compare him to...
True!
A husk of a man… 😆😁 Good point!
Thank you for that laugh!!
You're welcome. Feel free to spread it around!
I have thought this since the politicos were publically taking their shots (and Mr. Trump refused to do it in public....)
I honestly believe that there were batches that were basically saline. Ask a handful of people who got the shots and each one has a different experience of symptoms --from "nothing" to "entire body on fire"! AND some people had differences just from first shot to second shot!!
Here's the link.
https://www.howbadismybatch.com/
Was just about to post this! Thanks!
I saw this...there was a dramatic difference in the first shot for me vs. the 2nd. One of them had almost zero reactions or deaths and the other had quite a few. I can't remember which. Thankfully compared to some of the other batches, even my bad one wasn't all that high. It's still so stressful though. We're all just waiting to see what happens and wishing we'd known then what we know now.
Do you follow Sasha Latypova on substack? The DoD contracts prove none of these "prototype countermeasures" (that's what the DoD contracted for, NOT a medical treatment called a vaccine) happened by accident.
All involved are evil and complicit.
“Malevolent” seems to be the most fitting in this situation
I wish we had a way of meeting each other in person. How powerful would that prayer group be!
Nailed it M Varr. Unfortunately. And the nihilist Orcs that do the bidding of those who would annihilate will then annihilate themselves in the end.