None of this was done by accident, please remember this. ALL vaccines created by this industry are poison, whether for humans or for animals. STOP injecting yourself, your children and your pets. The accumulation effect of the poisons along with the increased EMFs being pumped at us are killing us by the millions. Start by freeing yourse…
None of this was done by accident, please remember this. ALL vaccines created by this industry are poison, whether for humans or for animals. STOP injecting yourself, your children and your pets. The accumulation effect of the poisons along with the increased EMFs being pumped at us are killing us by the millions. Start by freeing yourselves from the Medical Industrial Complex and research alternative ways to get and stay healthy. ❤️
I'm wondering how people feel about Robert Malone's assertion that he really believed in the tech and was trying to do good with it. Do you think it is possible for someone at that level of vaccine development to really think it can be beneficial if done "right"?
I have heard him describe how he was involved. It was not originally designed as a vaccine platform but as a gene modification platform. He and others shelved the tech after discovering that it didn’t work. It didn’t work because causing a person to make proteins that are foreign to them, albeit a typically normal gene in other people, evoked an autoimmune response which ended up causing more harm. The tech didn’t work, therefore, to treat genetic disorders.
However, OTHER PEOPLE snagged the tech as a possible way to create new vaccines. Precisely because of the immune response it evoked.
As I understood Dr. Malone to say, he was never involved in its development as a vaccine tool. In fact, he was an early voice warning about its potential risks. And yes, I know he took the jab himself. And was injured as a result.
Only know what he says not sure what his motives are. He certainly presents himself very well but that’s a great trait of controlled opposition too. We don’t have proof that he took the jab only his statement that he did. I think the wascal rabbit is still digging on that hole.
Honestly, even though I don’t understand why he is suing the Breggins or why there is such infighting between some of the med freedom docs (like, who cares if MxCullough and others are making money selling supplements, or whatever the supposed grievances are?!), I also really do not see the value in constantly suspecting and questioning motives. I’m not talking about blindly following someone.
I am talking about the adult stance that acknowledges good and bad in all of us. None of us gets it right 100% of the time. Trump did a lot of good, but he utterly failed on lockdowns and warp speed. And hasn’t admitted that failure. However, those failures won’t keep me from voting for him if he is the R nomination. DeSantis locked down initially, but now is with the legislature doing amazing things that almost no one else is doing. Some people allege he is doing it all for political profit. Well, so what? What is the alternative? Vote for the Alzheimer’s patient currently in the White House?
Whatever DeSantis’s motives, he is bringing freedom to lots of people. He is saying things out loud that need to be said.
And I think the same with Dr. Malone. We can’t know his motives unless he tells us or unless we get inside his head. But he has endured a lot of opposition yet continues to speak out. Again, he was one of the earliest people speaking out.
The Adversary will endeavor to come against us by sowing discord and discontent. That said, we should be glad for whatever is a help to us in these the Darkest Days perhaps in the annals of Mankind.
DeSantis is not saying or doing that much that is unique. In 2020 Rupert Murdoch convinced him to accept grooming to become the ‘Trump/but much improved version’ candidate to take out Trump in 2024.
I disagree that he’s not doing much that’s unique. Who else on a state level has done as much as he has? Yes he has a supermajority but so do several other states with Republican governors and most of them have only done anything at all because they’ve been shamed into it or just hopped on the bandwagon. DeSantis’s initiatives got the ball rolling in many cases. I am not for or against Trump or for or against DeSantis at this point, I am just trying to see what each one has done and consider the flaws and strong points of both in a balanced manner.
So the media megaphone leaped into action to make him the “Nation’s Governor”. That and Ron and Casey’s egos have had him tromping all over the country, and even a little International travel, telling the rest of them how to do it 😂
And all the while, back in Florida, which he’s supposed to be governing, in the largest city, Jacksonville, the mayoral candidate he endorsed, but couldn’t be bothered to rally for, recently lost to the Democrat.
He doesn’t just say that he has also talked about how he has had ill effects. If he was controlled opposition he never would have come out against it early, as in 2021!
Uh, okay. But he traveled overseas during a time that vaccine proof was required to do that. So do you think he's part of a larger cabal that gave him a wink and a nod and allowed him to travel, or do you think his vaccine proof is fake?
The people I knew in vaccine development at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, both civilian and military, absolutely believed they were doing the right thing. Some stayed for an entire career as a civilian government employee instead of jumping to the high-paying industry side. The history of vaccines and vaccine development I was taught at a very prestigious university's school of public health didn't have any of the information that is in Dissolving Illusions or, presumably, Turtles All The Way Down (though I've not read that one).
I do believe that. Not sure about him specifically, but I think people can be blind to the potential harms when they have made a great discovery and think they are doing good with it.
However, he was one drawing attention very early to risks of the injection. So regardless of what one may think of him, he has definitely done good in that regard.
No one is going to get everything right all the time. It’s up to us individually to sift.
All true, Copernicus. When you go down some of the deeper (and darker) rabbit holes, questions arise regarding his involvement with DARPA and remdesivir and the shots as a bioweapon. I can't honestly process all of the discussion and at times I just have to tap out and protect my heart from drinking too deeply from the well of cynicism.
The one where he did nothing as a doctor, via a doctor's opinion about pros/cons of a medical intervention, to either quell or stoke fears of a 12 year old? (Of course the latter is *not* a good idea.) Malone directed the fearful 12 year old to her parents. He did nothing in any manner to speak as a doctor to the issue of the shot, the thing the 12 year old had fear about. A 12 year old knows what a doctor is, and why we seek input from doctors. In my opinion, Malone did not do this child a service. He could very easily have given his opinion, clarifying that it is just his opinion, and *then* directed the girl to her parents, who he could also have clarified are free to disagree, allowing that he is not perfect, he just has an opinion, her parents are the ones she should go to for all kinds of things while she's growing up. I couldn't figure out what he was playing at. He completely abdicated as a knowledgeable professional. I know my memory is not mistaken about this exchange. I was stunned by his non-answer. It's likely the small group was hand-picked and all parents were already on board with keeping their children safe per Malone's publicly (adamant, internet at the very least) shared warnings and so he knew his direction/suggestion would probably save a child's life (per the shot). But the viewer has no way of knowing for sure; it wasn't disclosed. That whole clip was uncomfortable and gave me pause about the guy. Not for the first time. Has he done some good? Yes. Is he something else than what he presents himself as? Maybe. Time will tell. I for one proceed with caution. He's been tickling my spidey sense.
Who knows what absolutely? This is always a question. HOWEVER ... I do know that anyone doing the right thing, whether it's 50, 75, 80 or 90 percent the right thing is going to come under attack aimed at neutralizing any good influence contrary to Evil Agenda being dumped on us. Freeze, neutralize and destroy ... in the words of Alinsky.
You said it right. Indeed, he came out early plain and simple. This counts big time.
Seems more of an ego battle. Alex pissed off a lot of people for the unforced error by attacking Dr. Malone.
Dr. Malone is the architect of the platform the later developed mRNA uses. He himself took the jab was injured and has beens sounding the alarm ever since.
A couple of days ago Malone reviewed a piece from which he pulled an extract that used the terminology "birthing person." In his in-his-own-words summary he repeated the terminology. I blinked hard when I read it. What??! There were numerous comments about the terminology, one of which he responded to clearly stating that the terminology was theirs (the cited author/s') not his. Ok, but... why repeat the terminology in his summary without batting an eye? To me this smacks of "normalizing" its use, by not questioning it on the spot and revising it out of his in-his-own-words summary. Why not write "mother" instead of repeating the sociological-psychological hammer of "their" choice of language? Calls his integrity into question/adds fuel to the limited hangout theory for me. Just one of numerous ticks on that side of the ledger.
Check out Sage Hanna's substack if you really want to go down the rabbit hole of "Bob Malone" (as she calls him). It bothers me that he is suing Dr. Peter Breggin for $25 million dollars.
Yep, I’m familiar with the Sage’s 🐴. And also question why🐴 didn’t go after WaPo, NYT or any other deep pockets that he also “suffered” defamation from. No, he went after a little guy. Curious, eh?
Also remember reading many moons ago from him that each article he/Jill writes takes from 3-5 hours (sorry no link, but I’m 100% sure I read it), which, as an editor and sometime writer I know to be an accurate estimate, some more some less. So with a working farm (which he surely has help with), a consulting business (which I glean he is not as busy as he once was but is still a going concern), a domestic and international travel schedule that is constant and must be exhausting, and frequent taped media appearances (with who knows how much time ends up on the cutting room floor) on this or that outlet, I’m supposed to believe that he/Jill spends no less than 2-3 hours a day researching and writing at least one, occasionally two full articles and scours the net for his twice weekly collection of political memes and cartoons? No way. He has ghostwriters. Yes, occasionally he republishes articles requiring no writing per se, all fair, but the bulk of output is original writing. Yet puts his name on everything. This is a misrepresentation in my humble opinion. It’s not illegal, just disingenuous. Another tick on the other side of the ledger.
The title of his book is a bit galling too - "Lies My Government Told Me." Uh, Bob, YOU were intimately involved in the government via DARPA and other military consulting work. Something just way too...convenient about his whole story arc.
*I have not actually read his book so in fairness to him, maybe he addresses all the conflicts of interest.
I understand he worked on the technology. Different than working on the vaccine using it. I give him the benefit of the doubt at this point. The inventors of the gasoline engine probably had no idea of its ultimate uses. Good technology often goes haywire in the hands of humans. I can’t think of one thing humans haven’t f-cked up, polluted or used for nefarious purposes. I want to put the blame where it really belongs. Cheers.
Yes. I truly believe him. I believe he was trying to cure things ill like Cancer or say alzheimers etc. To me, proof I need is in how strongly he has come out against it early on even after he took 2 shots.
None of this was done by accident, please remember this. ALL vaccines created by this industry are poison, whether for humans or for animals. STOP injecting yourself, your children and your pets. The accumulation effect of the poisons along with the increased EMFs being pumped at us are killing us by the millions. Start by freeing yourselves from the Medical Industrial Complex and research alternative ways to get and stay healthy. ❤️
I'm wondering how people feel about Robert Malone's assertion that he really believed in the tech and was trying to do good with it. Do you think it is possible for someone at that level of vaccine development to really think it can be beneficial if done "right"?
I have heard him describe how he was involved. It was not originally designed as a vaccine platform but as a gene modification platform. He and others shelved the tech after discovering that it didn’t work. It didn’t work because causing a person to make proteins that are foreign to them, albeit a typically normal gene in other people, evoked an autoimmune response which ended up causing more harm. The tech didn’t work, therefore, to treat genetic disorders.
However, OTHER PEOPLE snagged the tech as a possible way to create new vaccines. Precisely because of the immune response it evoked.
As I understood Dr. Malone to say, he was never involved in its development as a vaccine tool. In fact, he was an early voice warning about its potential risks. And yes, I know he took the jab himself. And was injured as a result.
Only know what he says not sure what his motives are. He certainly presents himself very well but that’s a great trait of controlled opposition too. We don’t have proof that he took the jab only his statement that he did. I think the wascal rabbit is still digging on that hole.
Honestly, even though I don’t understand why he is suing the Breggins or why there is such infighting between some of the med freedom docs (like, who cares if MxCullough and others are making money selling supplements, or whatever the supposed grievances are?!), I also really do not see the value in constantly suspecting and questioning motives. I’m not talking about blindly following someone.
I am talking about the adult stance that acknowledges good and bad in all of us. None of us gets it right 100% of the time. Trump did a lot of good, but he utterly failed on lockdowns and warp speed. And hasn’t admitted that failure. However, those failures won’t keep me from voting for him if he is the R nomination. DeSantis locked down initially, but now is with the legislature doing amazing things that almost no one else is doing. Some people allege he is doing it all for political profit. Well, so what? What is the alternative? Vote for the Alzheimer’s patient currently in the White House?
Whatever DeSantis’s motives, he is bringing freedom to lots of people. He is saying things out loud that need to be said.
And I think the same with Dr. Malone. We can’t know his motives unless he tells us or unless we get inside his head. But he has endured a lot of opposition yet continues to speak out. Again, he was one of the earliest people speaking out.
The Adversary will endeavor to come against us by sowing discord and discontent. That said, we should be glad for whatever is a help to us in these the Darkest Days perhaps in the annals of Mankind.
YOU SAID IT RIGHT ...
Well said.
Dr. Malone has at least one other lawsuit he's bringing against a freedom fighter - wish there was not the infighting!
DeSantis is not saying or doing that much that is unique. In 2020 Rupert Murdoch convinced him to accept grooming to become the ‘Trump/but much improved version’ candidate to take out Trump in 2024.
I disagree that he’s not doing much that’s unique. Who else on a state level has done as much as he has? Yes he has a supermajority but so do several other states with Republican governors and most of them have only done anything at all because they’ve been shamed into it or just hopped on the bandwagon. DeSantis’s initiatives got the ball rolling in many cases. I am not for or against Trump or for or against DeSantis at this point, I am just trying to see what each one has done and consider the flaws and strong points of both in a balanced manner.
He was promised support from all of Murdoch’s media empire and assured Trump would be dealt with so that he would not be a viable opponent.
So the media megaphone leaped into action to make him the “Nation’s Governor”. That and Ron and Casey’s egos have had him tromping all over the country, and even a little International travel, telling the rest of them how to do it 😂
And all the while, back in Florida, which he’s supposed to be governing, in the largest city, Jacksonville, the mayoral candidate he endorsed, but couldn’t be bothered to rally for, recently lost to the Democrat.
I’m sorry for all with such high hopes, but the man is a joke.
https://twitter.com/gc22gc/status/1665171605105053696?s=20
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/06/05/details-surface-of-how-ron-desantis-is-using-a-registered-foreign-agent-to-assemble-his-online-influence-campaign/
And more than a little suspect.
He doesn’t just say that he has also talked about how he has had ill effects. If he was controlled opposition he never would have come out against it early, as in 2021!
Uh, okay. But he traveled overseas during a time that vaccine proof was required to do that. So do you think he's part of a larger cabal that gave him a wink and a nod and allowed him to travel, or do you think his vaccine proof is fake?
If anyone coulda got a fake vax card, it would've been Bob, dontcha think?
The people I knew in vaccine development at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, both civilian and military, absolutely believed they were doing the right thing. Some stayed for an entire career as a civilian government employee instead of jumping to the high-paying industry side. The history of vaccines and vaccine development I was taught at a very prestigious university's school of public health didn't have any of the information that is in Dissolving Illusions or, presumably, Turtles All The Way Down (though I've not read that one).
They intentionally left that the true info out!
I do believe that. Not sure about him specifically, but I think people can be blind to the potential harms when they have made a great discovery and think they are doing good with it.
Medical education is inDOCtrination. Doctors routinely go for aggressive treatment and die early.
Lots of questions around Dr. Malone. It's getting harder and harder not to see him as a limited hangout.
However, he was one drawing attention very early to risks of the injection. So regardless of what one may think of him, he has definitely done good in that regard.
No one is going to get everything right all the time. It’s up to us individually to sift.
All true, Copernicus. When you go down some of the deeper (and darker) rabbit holes, questions arise regarding his involvement with DARPA and remdesivir and the shots as a bioweapon. I can't honestly process all of the discussion and at times I just have to tap out and protect my heart from drinking too deeply from the well of cynicism.
You didn’t see his talk to children in Hawaii about taking it? I think he was with children health defense find . Video is out there.
The one where he did nothing as a doctor, via a doctor's opinion about pros/cons of a medical intervention, to either quell or stoke fears of a 12 year old? (Of course the latter is *not* a good idea.) Malone directed the fearful 12 year old to her parents. He did nothing in any manner to speak as a doctor to the issue of the shot, the thing the 12 year old had fear about. A 12 year old knows what a doctor is, and why we seek input from doctors. In my opinion, Malone did not do this child a service. He could very easily have given his opinion, clarifying that it is just his opinion, and *then* directed the girl to her parents, who he could also have clarified are free to disagree, allowing that he is not perfect, he just has an opinion, her parents are the ones she should go to for all kinds of things while she's growing up. I couldn't figure out what he was playing at. He completely abdicated as a knowledgeable professional. I know my memory is not mistaken about this exchange. I was stunned by his non-answer. It's likely the small group was hand-picked and all parents were already on board with keeping their children safe per Malone's publicly (adamant, internet at the very least) shared warnings and so he knew his direction/suggestion would probably save a child's life (per the shot). But the viewer has no way of knowing for sure; it wasn't disclosed. That whole clip was uncomfortable and gave me pause about the guy. Not for the first time. Has he done some good? Yes. Is he something else than what he presents himself as? Maybe. Time will tell. I for one proceed with caution. He's been tickling my spidey sense.
That’s the one
Exactly right. He came out early plain and simple.
Who knows what absolutely? This is always a question. HOWEVER ... I do know that anyone doing the right thing, whether it's 50, 75, 80 or 90 percent the right thing is going to come under attack aimed at neutralizing any good influence contrary to Evil Agenda being dumped on us. Freeze, neutralize and destroy ... in the words of Alinsky.
You said it right. Indeed, he came out early plain and simple. This counts big time.
I recall Alex Berenson has a beef with Malone.
https://virg.substack.com/p/what-is-the-deal-with-alex-berenson
Not sure if it adds up.
Seems more of an ego battle. Alex pissed off a lot of people for the unforced error by attacking Dr. Malone.
Dr. Malone is the architect of the platform the later developed mRNA uses. He himself took the jab was injured and has beens sounding the alarm ever since.
I remember thinking at the time that it was a strange "flex" for Alex.
A couple of days ago Malone reviewed a piece from which he pulled an extract that used the terminology "birthing person." In his in-his-own-words summary he repeated the terminology. I blinked hard when I read it. What??! There were numerous comments about the terminology, one of which he responded to clearly stating that the terminology was theirs (the cited author/s') not his. Ok, but... why repeat the terminology in his summary without batting an eye? To me this smacks of "normalizing" its use, by not questioning it on the spot and revising it out of his in-his-own-words summary. Why not write "mother" instead of repeating the sociological-psychological hammer of "their" choice of language? Calls his integrity into question/adds fuel to the limited hangout theory for me. Just one of numerous ticks on that side of the ledger.
Check out Sage Hanna's substack if you really want to go down the rabbit hole of "Bob Malone" (as she calls him). It bothers me that he is suing Dr. Peter Breggin for $25 million dollars.
Yep, I’m familiar with the Sage’s 🐴. And also question why🐴 didn’t go after WaPo, NYT or any other deep pockets that he also “suffered” defamation from. No, he went after a little guy. Curious, eh?
Also remember reading many moons ago from him that each article he/Jill writes takes from 3-5 hours (sorry no link, but I’m 100% sure I read it), which, as an editor and sometime writer I know to be an accurate estimate, some more some less. So with a working farm (which he surely has help with), a consulting business (which I glean he is not as busy as he once was but is still a going concern), a domestic and international travel schedule that is constant and must be exhausting, and frequent taped media appearances (with who knows how much time ends up on the cutting room floor) on this or that outlet, I’m supposed to believe that he/Jill spends no less than 2-3 hours a day researching and writing at least one, occasionally two full articles and scours the net for his twice weekly collection of political memes and cartoons? No way. He has ghostwriters. Yes, occasionally he republishes articles requiring no writing per se, all fair, but the bulk of output is original writing. Yet puts his name on everything. This is a misrepresentation in my humble opinion. It’s not illegal, just disingenuous. Another tick on the other side of the ledger.
The truth will out at some point.
The title of his book is a bit galling too - "Lies My Government Told Me." Uh, Bob, YOU were intimately involved in the government via DARPA and other military consulting work. Something just way too...convenient about his whole story arc.
*I have not actually read his book so in fairness to him, maybe he addresses all the conflicts of interest.
I understand he worked on the technology. Different than working on the vaccine using it. I give him the benefit of the doubt at this point. The inventors of the gasoline engine probably had no idea of its ultimate uses. Good technology often goes haywire in the hands of humans. I can’t think of one thing humans haven’t f-cked up, polluted or used for nefarious purposes. I want to put the blame where it really belongs. Cheers.
Yes. I truly believe him. I believe he was trying to cure things ill like Cancer or say alzheimers etc. To me, proof I need is in how strongly he has come out against it early on even after he took 2 shots.
If you get $ from your patents, sure.
He’s a big fat liar... Sage Hanna writes some great stacks about him and the other “players”
I can't quite figure out Sage Hana - does she think anyone is truly a "good guy" since everyone seems to be suspect.
Thank you for this reasonable, courteous, thoughtful and spot on comment!!