Two great attorneys are representing the individual plaintiffs. BCBSM's conduct was diabolical based upon witness testimony. Expect a few more verdicts like this.
Two great attorneys are representing the individual plaintiffs. BCBSM's conduct was diabolical based upon witness testimony. Expect a few more verdicts like this.
In a nutshell, the basis of BCBSM's defense in each case is that the individual plaintiffs did not demonstrate a sincerely-held religious belief to justify a religious accommodation under Title VII. You can judge by the verdict how that was received by the jury.
Yes - this still enrages me, honestly. Why can't we just say no because we don't want it? Why do we need a religious exemption? And I'm a Christian. I think maybe they were using this as a way to track Christians, honestly.
Someone who I know that has been actively monitoring the situation strongly suspects that it was a force reduction move due to the timing of the firings.
The Court is the arbiter of whether or not the State has violated the Constitution in any action it has taken. The Constitution sets forth the limited powers the State may exercise; outside of those, all other rights inhere in the People. (Parenthetically, Biden and Walz both *utterly* clueless about this simple, basic, and critically important fact; as are countless others, of course.)
Yes! Thank you for providing this response ~ the one and only correct response, regardless of how little respected by the countless defendants and various benighted courts. Amen.
But what if you are a Christian but don't want vaccines more because of the negative health reasons than actual religious reasons. No traditions that I know of say ' no vaccines'. If the religious belief is bodily autonomy, then ok.
The vaxx was developed with the aid of testing on aborted fetal lines. Catholics believe abortion is murder. Therefore using anything that is derivative of those murdered children is religiously objectionable.
Ergo Catholics and anyone else who believes abortion is murder may not take part in vaxxes derived from murder.
On 21Dec2023, the Department of Health and Human Services and FDA issued a final ruling to amend a provision of the 21st Century Cures Act to allow:
...an exception from the requirement to obtain informed consent when a clinical investigation poses no more than a minimal risk to the human subject...
This ruling went into effect 22Jan2024.
Note that there's zero definition of "minimal risk!”
I’ll add that the Covid shots are still being called S&E!
Minimal risk with no benefit is still unacceptable. I am the judge of risk and benefit when it concerns my own safety. I am under no obligation to accept the arrogation of this authority by anyone at all.
Furthermore, HHS and FDA are taking a position for which we hanged people at Nuremberg.
Don't get your hopes up. "Advisers to the president-elect questioned whether Mr Kennedy would make it through a security check for a cabinet position." Unfortunately, we may see a bait & switch here.
I did not think that RFK, Jr was up for a cabinet seat from the beginning? I thought it was something altogether different though I don't recall what it was described as.
If someone wouldn't pass a security check for a cabinet position, would he not also fail the security check to be president had the country voted him in?
Or is this media states just more woke bovine excrement?
There would have to be, at minimum (since they like that word so much), some reasonable standard SET OUT IN THE ENABLING RULING (sounds doubtful that it's there) in order for such a broad AND vague exception to withstand judicial review. Sorry (Not sorry).
A exemption is a state granted permission to do something which somebody 'legally' could not otherwise do. Exemption is begging. It's 'citizens' begging the tyrant daddy state. 'Citizens' reduced to slaves begging The Master. And so, where are the unalienable Rights in all of this? Where are the people the owners of government?
It gets back to the two controlling questions: 1) which is greater, the master or the servant?, and 2) where do Rights come from, God or the god state?
Claimed? Not requested? The distinction is a word trick, a word gimmick.
The government cannot infringe upon an unalienable right. That is, the government cannot ask a person to claim, request something that is not in their possession in the first place, not theirs to give.
Just look at 'unalienable' in the law dictionary (at least the old American ones) and you will find that what is unalienable inheres in the person, and cannot be bought or sold, nor transfered. And unlike latches, what inheres can always be reasserted because it is a property which never lapses.
I see what you are saying but I think waters here are muddied with confusing one kind of right with another ... the unalienable right with the civil right. We are talking about property rights here, and where they come from ... either God or the state. And 'claiming' is also a confusion. In the right is unalienable, we are then talking standing more than 'claiming'.
The government infringed, violated and took away all our unalienable rights under the covid fraud. All of those responsible should be in prison, if not executed for crimes against humanity, but not a single one is.
The real start of 'a taking' of the unalienable rights was in the War Between the States period. And then again in 1913, and then again all gone with FDR ... and only a facsimile of constitutional government ... this is only a rough approximation. But 911 and C19 was the coup de grace on steroids. After that, it's been total enslavement and total tyranny. So said.
And the strangeness is that the Russians in their daily life are 'freer' than the American, Europeans, and Down Under. Who would have thunk it?
I can't comment on the Russians as I have never been to Russia and don't know any. I do know that Britons, Canadians and Anyone in the EU does not have freedom of speech and the Brits are imprisoning people for facebook posts that go against "accepted speech". The entire West is going full on fascist.
I was in Russia in 1968. Things there were much freer than under Stalin and before. When all this Russia, Russia, Russia stuff started going on I began looking into Russia again ... and I was shocked at how much things had changed. Many expats say the Federation is more like US was in the 1950's. And as to tone, I agree. But otherwise, very modern looking in a fresh and clean way. No place is perfect, but Russia has done a remarkable turnaround under in these the Putin years. America? Poor America the depraved is now crumbling. Let's hope the next four years do us better.
I need to catch up on Tucker with Elon and this, as you say ... about Russia.
I have been following the 'new Russia' in depth for quite a few years. Moscow and Petersburg are so, so different. Just bright cheerful, stores jammed full, a clean and neat look. Gone is that Soviet era drabness. It blow me away. And the 'new city' in Moscow with skyscrapers did not exist when I was there.
Also, people did not understand how much financial strength Russia has ... something like twenty percent sovereign debt to GDP, super-strong Ruble, excellent foreign exchange balance sheet, strong industrial base. And the Western fools thought they could take down the Federation with the sick man dollar system.
Thanks Maggie! Take good care of yourself and those around you.
Last I checked the U.S.A. is a corporation and there seems to be no consensus on who owns it. My question is can a Corporation also be a Ziocracy simultaneously?
I am with you as to corporation (and actually a constellation of incorporations). And there is no consensus on how this all works because all government in the Collective West is a covert operation. However, it is likely that the City of London figures in. And also, the Vatican as the central registry of 'ownership'. Also, 'ownership' in trust, holding companies, etc.
Ziocracy? Why not? Trackers track by following tracks ... and so I ask one and all a question. Which group is the most over-represented group in key positions in the 'US government' by numbers as a percentage of the population? And if it quacks like a duck, it is probably not an ostrich or a penguin ... maybe not even an armadillo!
My wife recently filed her annual religious exemption - from the stupid COVID deathvax, but also for the flu vax.
You get the distinct impression that they no longer care about the COVID thing but would really rather not have medicos refusing the flu vax (not that the flu vax is ANY more effective.)
Well tough shit, Big pHARMA. You made this bed, lie in it. You've totally lost the trust of the people who are paying attention.
Do they ask specific questions relating to how exactly this goes against your religious beliefs? I would like to have some idea for when my granddaughter goes to school, as she is unvaxxed.
No, but I crafted her religious exemption by among other things, specifically citing Title VII and her right to reasonable accomodations under the law.
Additionally the text specifically cites her Roman Catholic faith, and the fact that participating or benefiting in any way with the sin of abortion is morally unacceptable to Catholics, and therefore vaxxes which have been in any way developed - even tangentially - through the use of aborted fetal cell lines, contravene the Catholic faith.
Finally, I cited the fact that we attend Mass every Sunday and Holy Day of Obligation, & support the Church with our tithes, as well as donate to pro-life charities.
I did this to foreclose any arguments that the religious exemption is not based on a sincere belief.
It depends what state you are in. CA may not allow or be easy, but in FL, I just went to the health dept and asked for a religeous vaccine exemption form and they gave it no questions asked for my 3 kids...15 yrs ago
Legally, they (any entity) can't require an individual to specify religious exemption details. In the state of NC, a student religious exemption is accepted with a simple statement from a parent/guardian such as "It is my God-given right to claim a Religious Exemption on behalf of my child, (First Last)." Signed by parent/guardian and dated. All states (and colleges if that is the age of your child) have different requirements for obtaining a student religious exemption - what state are you in?
Right? It doesn’t take a religious reason to decide what I put in my body. If democrats can choose what to remove from their bodies, why can’t I decide what goes in?!
A big chunk of money for Whitmer’s campaigns came from contributions from interest groups affiliated with Big Med and Big Insurance. It’s why major media outlets like the Detroit News which pretends to be conservative-leaning and the Freep which makes no pretense of its leftist leanings, along with the local TV stations and radio tread lightly with Whitmer - advertising revenue from those sources.
Two great attorneys are representing the individual plaintiffs. BCBSM's conduct was diabolical based upon witness testimony. Expect a few more verdicts like this.
Hopefully a religious exemption will not be needed, eventually. Informed consent should be necessary.
In a nutshell, the basis of BCBSM's defense in each case is that the individual plaintiffs did not demonstrate a sincerely-held religious belief to justify a religious accommodation under Title VII. You can judge by the verdict how that was received by the jury.
Yes - this still enrages me, honestly. Why can't we just say no because we don't want it? Why do we need a religious exemption? And I'm a Christian. I think maybe they were using this as a way to track Christians, honestly.
Someone who I know that has been actively monitoring the situation strongly suspects that it was a force reduction move due to the timing of the firings.
Completely agree!!!
The court is not the arbiter of how religious one has to be to hold religious beliefs. That is unconstitutional.
The Court is the arbiter of whether or not the State has violated the Constitution in any action it has taken. The Constitution sets forth the limited powers the State may exercise; outside of those, all other rights inhere in the People. (Parenthetically, Biden and Walz both *utterly* clueless about this simple, basic, and critically important fact; as are countless others, of course.)
What exactly does your religious belief have to be? I think Jeff discussed this at one time years ago.
Sincerely held.
Yes! Thank you for providing this response ~ the one and only correct response, regardless of how little respected by the countless defendants and various benighted courts. Amen.
But what if you are a Christian but don't want vaccines more because of the negative health reasons than actual religious reasons. No traditions that I know of say ' no vaccines'. If the religious belief is bodily autonomy, then ok.
The vaxx was developed with the aid of testing on aborted fetal lines. Catholics believe abortion is murder. Therefore using anything that is derivative of those murdered children is religiously objectionable.
Ergo Catholics and anyone else who believes abortion is murder may not take part in vaxxes derived from murder.
Thank you.
Then you are looking for a medical exemption.
The religious belief that corresponds is no "pharmakeia."
Peggy Hall videos go into this.
It is on his web site
Nope.
(Just stop.)
SPAMMER
Informed consent is no more:
On 21Dec2023, the Department of Health and Human Services and FDA issued a final ruling to amend a provision of the 21st Century Cures Act to allow:
...an exception from the requirement to obtain informed consent when a clinical investigation poses no more than a minimal risk to the human subject...
This ruling went into effect 22Jan2024.
Note that there's zero definition of "minimal risk!”
I’ll add that the Covid shots are still being called S&E!
Jeff???? 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻
Minimal risk with no benefit is still unacceptable. I am the judge of risk and benefit when it concerns my own safety. I am under no obligation to accept the arrogation of this authority by anyone at all.
Furthermore, HHS and FDA are taking a position for which we hanged people at Nuremberg.
Yes, arrogation is well used.
Can Kennedy change this?
I think RFK Jr will need a huge team of 'boots on the ground'.
https://open.substack.com/pub/petermcculloughmd/p/a-call-to-ban-gain-of-function-research?r=15eyho&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Don't get your hopes up. "Advisers to the president-elect questioned whether Mr Kennedy would make it through a security check for a cabinet position." Unfortunately, we may see a bait & switch here.
I don’t know who said this, but if they try this, we, the people will be hitting the streets!!
"Mr Trump’s camp is now questioning whether Mr Kennedy could get confirmed for a cabinet-level position by the Senate, obtain security clearance"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/11/07/trump-campaign-quietly-distances-rfk-jr-vaccines/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
I saw that, but don't trust that paper, so...
Agree. Stop listening to propaganda media.
Yes—consider the source!
I did not think that RFK, Jr was up for a cabinet seat from the beginning? I thought it was something altogether different though I don't recall what it was described as.
If someone wouldn't pass a security check for a cabinet position, would he not also fail the security check to be president had the country voted him in?
Or is this media states just more woke bovine excrement?
There would have to be, at minimum (since they like that word so much), some reasonable standard SET OUT IN THE ENABLING RULING (sounds doubtful that it's there) in order for such a broad AND vague exception to withstand judicial review. Sorry (Not sorry).
Yikes!
A exemption is a state granted permission to do something which somebody 'legally' could not otherwise do. Exemption is begging. It's 'citizens' begging the tyrant daddy state. 'Citizens' reduced to slaves begging The Master. And so, where are the unalienable Rights in all of this? Where are the people the owners of government?
It gets back to the two controlling questions: 1) which is greater, the master or the servant?, and 2) where do Rights come from, God or the god state?
Religious exemptions need to be "claimed" - NOT "requested" - big difference!
Claimed? Not requested? The distinction is a word trick, a word gimmick.
The government cannot infringe upon an unalienable right. That is, the government cannot ask a person to claim, request something that is not in their possession in the first place, not theirs to give.
Just look at 'unalienable' in the law dictionary (at least the old American ones) and you will find that what is unalienable inheres in the person, and cannot be bought or sold, nor transfered. And unlike latches, what inheres can always be reasserted because it is a property which never lapses.
I see what you are saying but I think waters here are muddied with confusing one kind of right with another ... the unalienable right with the civil right. We are talking about property rights here, and where they come from ... either God or the state. And 'claiming' is also a confusion. In the right is unalienable, we are then talking standing more than 'claiming'.
The government infringed, violated and took away all our unalienable rights under the covid fraud. All of those responsible should be in prison, if not executed for crimes against humanity, but not a single one is.
The real start of 'a taking' of the unalienable rights was in the War Between the States period. And then again in 1913, and then again all gone with FDR ... and only a facsimile of constitutional government ... this is only a rough approximation. But 911 and C19 was the coup de grace on steroids. After that, it's been total enslavement and total tyranny. So said.
And the strangeness is that the Russians in their daily life are 'freer' than the American, Europeans, and Down Under. Who would have thunk it?
I can't comment on the Russians as I have never been to Russia and don't know any. I do know that Britons, Canadians and Anyone in the EU does not have freedom of speech and the Brits are imprisoning people for facebook posts that go against "accepted speech". The entire West is going full on fascist.
I was in Russia in 1968. Things there were much freer than under Stalin and before. When all this Russia, Russia, Russia stuff started going on I began looking into Russia again ... and I was shocked at how much things had changed. Many expats say the Federation is more like US was in the 1950's. And as to tone, I agree. But otherwise, very modern looking in a fresh and clean way. No place is perfect, but Russia has done a remarkable turnaround under in these the Putin years. America? Poor America the depraved is now crumbling. Let's hope the next four years do us better.
Watch Tucker's video about Russia! Your eyes will be opened! It is vastly different!
I need to catch up on Tucker with Elon and this, as you say ... about Russia.
I have been following the 'new Russia' in depth for quite a few years. Moscow and Petersburg are so, so different. Just bright cheerful, stores jammed full, a clean and neat look. Gone is that Soviet era drabness. It blow me away. And the 'new city' in Moscow with skyscrapers did not exist when I was there.
Also, people did not understand how much financial strength Russia has ... something like twenty percent sovereign debt to GDP, super-strong Ruble, excellent foreign exchange balance sheet, strong industrial base. And the Western fools thought they could take down the Federation with the sick man dollar system.
Thanks Maggie! Take good care of yourself and those around you.
Yes, that is the awesome power of invoking an "Emergency."
Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.
That which is Caesar's does NOT include an American citizen's body, thoughts, religious beliefs, or privately-held property.
Pretty simple, actually ... and is so often the case, Scriptures provide wise guidance.
Last I checked the U.S.A. is a corporation and there seems to be no consensus on who owns it. My question is can a Corporation also be a Ziocracy simultaneously?
I am with you as to corporation (and actually a constellation of incorporations). And there is no consensus on how this all works because all government in the Collective West is a covert operation. However, it is likely that the City of London figures in. And also, the Vatican as the central registry of 'ownership'. Also, 'ownership' in trust, holding companies, etc.
Ziocracy? Why not? Trackers track by following tracks ... and so I ask one and all a question. Which group is the most over-represented group in key positions in the 'US government' by numbers as a percentage of the population? And if it quacks like a duck, it is probably not an ostrich or a penguin ... maybe not even an armadillo!
My wife recently filed her annual religious exemption - from the stupid COVID deathvax, but also for the flu vax.
You get the distinct impression that they no longer care about the COVID thing but would really rather not have medicos refusing the flu vax (not that the flu vax is ANY more effective.)
Well tough shit, Big pHARMA. You made this bed, lie in it. You've totally lost the trust of the people who are paying attention.
Do they ask specific questions relating to how exactly this goes against your religious beliefs? I would like to have some idea for when my granddaughter goes to school, as she is unvaxxed.
No, but I crafted her religious exemption by among other things, specifically citing Title VII and her right to reasonable accomodations under the law.
Additionally the text specifically cites her Roman Catholic faith, and the fact that participating or benefiting in any way with the sin of abortion is morally unacceptable to Catholics, and therefore vaxxes which have been in any way developed - even tangentially - through the use of aborted fetal cell lines, contravene the Catholic faith.
Finally, I cited the fact that we attend Mass every Sunday and Holy Day of Obligation, & support the Church with our tithes, as well as donate to pro-life charities.
I did this to foreclose any arguments that the religious exemption is not based on a sincere belief.
It depends what state you are in. CA may not allow or be easy, but in FL, I just went to the health dept and asked for a religeous vaccine exemption form and they gave it no questions asked for my 3 kids...15 yrs ago
Gotta love the state of Florida.
Thank you. God willing, they will be in Florida with us by then.🙏
Legally, they (any entity) can't require an individual to specify religious exemption details. In the state of NC, a student religious exemption is accepted with a simple statement from a parent/guardian such as "It is my God-given right to claim a Religious Exemption on behalf of my child, (First Last)." Signed by parent/guardian and dated. All states (and colleges if that is the age of your child) have different requirements for obtaining a student religious exemption - what state are you in?
Florida.
Right? It doesn’t take a religious reason to decide what I put in my body. If democrats can choose what to remove from their bodies, why can’t I decide what goes in?!
Seriously. As a researcher as soon as I saw there was no real consent it was obvious it was a total lie and farce and no one should comply.
Keep both
And our lovely, (not), Governor’s father was president of BCBS.
Whitmer for Gitmo
Worst. Governor. Ever.
Let her share a cell with Cuomo and JB (recognizing that JB takes up enough room for three people).
Go Dooga
Nessel ugggh
Dingell uggh Talib triple ugghh
A big chunk of money for Whitmer’s campaigns came from contributions from interest groups affiliated with Big Med and Big Insurance. It’s why major media outlets like the Detroit News which pretends to be conservative-leaning and the Freep which makes no pretense of its leftist leanings, along with the local TV stations and radio tread lightly with Whitmer - advertising revenue from those sources.
Detroit news are fakers
The witch
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