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AM's avatar

The blue-leaning righties tend to follow a trend line in my real-world experience - highly educated and wanting desperately to believe in the intelligentsia. I consider myself highly educated with a post-graduate degree, but I've also had some life experience that makes me question the mainstream medical community. They've mostly lost my trust. Have watched this for 15+ years, so the Covid trajectory was not a surprise to me, sadly. I think we have to have grace for people who have cognitive dissonance on this stuff. When you invest a great deal of time and money into your education and professional career, it's mentally tough to go against that world. Plus, Jeff, you're in Alachua (specifically Gainesville) which is the epicenter in Florida at least. So I'm not surprised about your friend.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I am much like you. My life experiences (education and military) have allowed me, once a democrat, to let that party distance itself from me. I don’t quite understand how a “conservative” can shift towards the principles of the left.

I have had some experiences main stream medical establishment that enabled my distrust if doctors, etc then the covid debacle.

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VeryVer's avatar

Yeah -- The Dems were pretty sneaky to add "trusting in Doctors" and "Caring about your health" to the Liberal side of the slate -- heretofore "medicine" was always somewhat politically neutral. Now you have to find out the politics of your doctor before you go -- if he's liberal, he's going to recommend shots and masks and jabs and treat you like an idiot if you object. Great going, Dems.

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Copernicus's avatar

Uhhhh, no, medicine has thought itself politically neutral, but the reality is that it hasn’t been.

We have had the AMA advocating for the ability of people to kill themselves, as long as they can find a dr to agree and provide drugs; for the right of mamas to kill their children, as long as the child was not yet born - all under the guise of healthcare. For a number of years the AAP has advocated for kids to be able to get hormonal pills to avoid pregnancy, for an alleged vaccine to prevent a sexually transmitted infection (HPV) to be given to kids as young as 11 (shouldn’t we actually be encouraging them to NOT HAVE SEX?! instead of injecting them with a potentially toxic product), and advising pediatricians how to talk with kids and teens about sex and STDs without parents knowing about it. All in the name of “health.”

So no, the practice of medicine has absolutely not be apolitical.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Don’t forget they give Hep B shots to tiny babies. Hep B is sexually transmitted.

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Copernicus's avatar

Ah, yes, very true. I always thought that was odd.

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Anita's avatar

It’s also transmitted by blood.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

You mean through the placenta, or a blood transfusion after birth?

If from the mother, don’t they test the mother for diseases? Thus making the shot unnecessary for infants?

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Cy Lanced's avatar

My former doctor tried to shame me into taking the jab on the very day he was heading out for his booster. Physician heal thyself!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Compliance over Science.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Great interview questions for my next doctor (hopefully no many more)

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PermieGeek's avatar

Actually it used to be the exact opposite, those on left were more likely to question "western Medicine" and the lies of big pharma. They marketed this "pro-science" nonsense like crazy to the left.

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Copernicus's avatar

Yes!!!

Although sadly, I have plenty of red friends who don’t question. Strangely enough.

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

Shellenberger: Climate Fanatics Are Weaponizing Mental Illlness

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/michael-shellenberger-elites-cheer-climate-narcissists

"Anti-capitalism thus became the ideology of the old rich, or what sociologist Thorstein Veblen called “the leisure class.”

Veblen noted the importance of “conspicuous consumption,” the tendency of leisure class to flaunt their wealth through fancy dresses and jewelry.

Today, elites flaunt their wealth through “luxury beliefs, ideas and opinions that confer status in the upper class while inflicting costs on the lower class,” eg we must make energy more expensive & return to less efficient, feudal modes of production, to protect Nature.

The capitalist class, the people who built their wealth from scratch, tend to feel proud, not guilty, for what they built. They defend free markets as part of their legacy. Their children and grandchildren who inherit their wealth struggle with their purpose."

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Janet's avatar

Luxury beliefs. Lol. When they are roaming around looking for food and a warm room they better not come to my house. We’re prepared and armed. I don’t tell anyone that though.

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PermieGeek's avatar

I've been having a fantasy lately that all the "deplorables" just stop working until the country realizes just how necessary they are and how unnecessary those with these "luxury beliefs" are.

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

Shellenberger 🧵 is long but worth the read. The man KNOWS what he’s talking about!

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Kitkat's avatar

I really like him. He ran in Calif primaries for governor. Got decent amount of votes, but Aunt Nancy makes dang sure her baby Gav wouldn't be defeated.

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PermieGeek's avatar

Probably a lot bigger than Pelosi. Newsome is a young global leader of the WEF.

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AM's avatar

"Shirt sleeves to shirt sleeves in 3 generations . . . " Some things never change.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Great stuff right there.

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GenEarly's avatar

College Towns everywhere are democRat Bolshevik training camps.

genearly.substack.com

Reality isn't always pleasant, and "education" is currently weaponized. (Well actually it's been a long road of subversion since John Dewy).

https://www.amazon.com/John-Dewey-Decline-American-Education/dp/193223652X

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Anna T's avatar

Just got an invite to my alumni reunion at Georgetown, held on campus. Look what's in the flyer:

"All attendees for this event must be up to date on their Covid-19 vaccination (i.e., a primary series and, when eligible, an additional dose) or attest to having a religious or medical exemption. Attendees who are not vaccinated but attest to having an exemption will need to take a COVID-19 PCR test within 72 hours prior to the event and provide their negative test results."

And amusingly enough - there are socials planned every evening of the long weekend to be held in local DC restaurants/bars/etc. off campus that do not have any restrictions. You can't make this stuff up.

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GenEarly's avatar

democRats are Certifiable, INSANE. Once we start operating in our liveswith that datum things will be better fo.r us. As for them, perhaps the Covid Death Jabs will take their toll.

I do realize way too many of us got the Jab as well. There are mitigating nutraceutical formulas online, but it may require taking the "Horse Medicine" that so many originally derided. btw, the CDC now says it works, such duplicity & evil = Insanity.

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Credenda's avatar

Sometimes when I’m having a battle with my meanie thoughts I wish that these people would just go out and have six or ten shots at once. It would solve so many problems.

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Peace's avatar

I hope you will reply with studies showing what nonsense this is!

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