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Based Florida Man's avatar

The fact is, the 2020 election was stolen from Trump.

Covid was a scam unleashed to prevent his reelection, with fraudulent mail-in voting enabled by the USPS (which was paid off by their exemption from the Jab mandates).

As the dangerous and ineffective Jabs were increasingly showing widespread death and damage to children and adults, the perfect distraction was a proxy war with Russia.

It's remarkable how many people go along with all this even today. At least alternative sources like this substack help to educate and inform. That's why I enjoy C&C so much.

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Pthalocyanine's avatar

the 2020 election was stolen from the American people. but yes to everything you said.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

My thought exactly! It wasn’t about Trump. It was about We The People. But I knew what he meant. 😉

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TT's avatar

My worry is nuclear war to cover up all the deaths and severe adverse effects from the juice. Can’t get cancer from the jab if you get it from uranium first.

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Christy's avatar

Not just the jab deaths (which are definitely accelerating)the corruption, the stock market, inflation, food shortages, housing market etc. totally expecting a black swan

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Granny Annie's avatar

No offense, but who the heck do you think will survive a nuclear war?

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

The elite & their chosen servants expect to.

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Granny Annie's avatar

Shouldn't the elite and their chosen servants have learned by now that "expect" and "will" are two entirely different things?

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

😆 what would have taught them that? They still don't understand the word "no." And the servants just do as told; not the deciders.

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Kim's avatar

They're too arrogant to figure that out.

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Janet's avatar

Hiding in the bunkers. If it’s Walmart billionaires bunkers you can surround yourself with priceless art. Let’s find the air vents and plug them. Can’t run on generators for ever and solar will be out. They can keep their cheap junk food however. Might ci11 them sooner. Just sayin.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Block the air intakes? Naahhh. Release noxious stinky fumes into them. A couple of decaying durian fruit; a bowlful of offal post-Taco Bell dinner; a long shpritz of skunk exusion. Be creative!

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Janet's avatar

Durian fruit. I had a whiff of that once. Yikes.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Nope.

Japan still exists today and is stronger than before, so about that.

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Granny Annie's avatar

Actually, the nuclear weaponry that exists today is also stronger than before. A lot stronger. So, yeah...

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Yes and no.

Dialable also.

Which doesn't change my point.

People here freaking out over nuclear warfare are no better than those who freaked out over covid in early 2020.

Putin threatened Nukes a dozen times before, even before Joe biden was vice president.

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Kim's avatar

Japan had our help. Who do you think is going to help us?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Who helped us out post 9/11?

Nato. Including gasp, UKRAINE! (And they lost some men doing it, too)

Who helped us out during the various natural disasters ? Singapore was flying helicopters and Israel sent search and rescue teams. During Covid TAiwan sent a lot of aid to the USA also (we know it was pointless, it was the thought that counted)

People will help us if we need it.

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Kim's avatar

As bad as 911 was, it was one city in one state. Nuclear war would be a lot worse and we've burned quite a few bridges since then.

Also, consider the international implications if the U.S. is hit. Ukraine is already busy, several countries in the Mid East are likely to see us as weak enough at that point to attack Israel, and the same is true regarding China invading Taiwan.

Some European countries may be willing to help us, depending on affected their own countries are.

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KarenQ's avatar

Cockroaches will survive nuclear war and anyone that can get into the right kind of bunker to wait it out. Afterward it’ll be like Mad Max for real.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I teach these classes to soldiers all the time.

You have the best gear in the world, the best training in the world, the best leadership, and people to your left and right who care and want you to succeed (well, atleast at my unit).

Nuclear war isn't some end of humanity thing. We survived far worse things previously.

30 years war in Europe (Killed 25-40% of Europe's population). The black plague. WW2 (largest human conflict in history in size of people and geography).

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Lone Starr's avatar

If it's big enough, and the US ans Russia exchange hundreds or thousands of nukes, no one is gonna survive, no matter how fancy your bunker is. Nuclear winter sets in, plants and animals die, everyone dies. Plus, there'd be fatal levels of radiation everywhere. Hiroshima would be nothing compared to a global nuclear war. We have bombs now that are orders of magnitude more powerful. Best thing is probably to be at ground zero and die instantly, like Linda Hamilton in T2.

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Julie's avatar

Who the heck wants to?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Survive Nuclear war?

Me.

I battled a lot of stuff to get here in my life. Poverty, severe health issues, a lot of things.

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Butterfly2510's avatar

There’s a lot (I dk how much but maybe another CCer does) of underground communities and living going in. More than you’d believe or think!! They’re planning for this too.

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CMCM's avatar

Where I live, especially with those in the 20-40 age group, they are living on a completely separate economy so the government and usual money system knows nothing about what they are doing. They call themselves "anarchists", but the meaning is different from our traditional view of anarchy. They just see it as a separate economy, as they want nothing to do with any kind of government.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Plenty of people.

You folks act like it's something not survivable.

Go read a book on physics and learn.

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IR's avatar

Surviving nuclear war, how about PREVENTING it?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Easy, don't give in to a nuclear armed tyrant.

Remind him anything he does, we will do back twice as bad.

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

Maybe this explains why Medicare has been balking at offering dental coverage. After the big WWIII uranium x-ray we’re all about to get, no one will have to worry about cavities. Load up on Halloween candy with glee.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

lol thanks for the laugh :-0

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Jen's avatar

yikes, I hadn't even thought of that. You could be right.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Yikes! Good thinking.

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Bridget's avatar

I’ve been thinking the same thing but I thought maybe I was a little crazy.

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Christy's avatar

I think most of us on here are a little crazy. Lol

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Debbie Alton's avatar

Me too. Thinking I must be crazy

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

There won't be a nuclear war.

Of course, with some people here actually supporting Putin, it could happen.

he's mentally unhinged.

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David A's avatar

I do not support GOF labs in Ukraine. (The likely reason for Covid in the first place) I do not support deep state corruption in Ukraine. I do not support the US CIA orchestrating and appointing foreign elected governments. I do not support said CIA supported government, killing thousands of Russian speaking Ukrainians and forbidding the Russian language. I do not support going to WWIII over a foreign conflict that has centuries of history between the folk in the region. (George Washington warned against such ventures) I do not support NATO breaking their agreements. I do not support blowing up the NS 2 pipeline. I do not support the Rand document, or US policy that clearly aligned with it, goading Russia to war.

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Butterfly2510's avatar

Thank you for saying this. I think they’re are probably many… millions who feel the same way.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Agree, 200%, I do not support any of the insanity that has been going on for about 40 years, Sam, I am. :-)

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

What labs in Ukraine?

There are no thousands of Russian-speakers dying in Ukraine except the ones that Russia is using as cannon fodder.

Nato hasn't broken their agreements. Russia has-see Budapest memorandum, Minsk 1 and 2.

Are you saying Russia is weak and was justified to invade Ukraine again, like Moldova and Georgia?

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David A's avatar

Re Labs, It was admitted by the assistant to the US SOS.

Re Killing Russian speaking citizens of Ukraine. True, it is not happening now.

Re Minsk 1 and 2, true, but after NATO broke their commitments.

Re your number 4, Did I say that? Where, please quote me.

Benjamin, you appear to have a one track agenda, and I am not even certain it was the subject of this post. There was a reference to admitting Ukraine into NATO, known to be a horrible idea for decades. Yet you turn everything into Russia Russia Russia. Its OK, just very one sided from my perspective.

Have you Read the Rand document?

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Politico Phil's avatar

OMG, you give the troll too much credit. He doesn't have a mind to track.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Facts are hard to those who are blinded.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

No, where are these labs at? Surely Stronk russia has pushed the Ukrainians armies back and found them and shared them with the world, yes? Where is the evidence of them? Photos? World tours? Surely there would be a giant PR show about it. Qanon and various conspiracy sites would gobble it up.

Minsk 1 and 2 were never violated by anyone but Russia and their LPR/DPR henchmen. Ukraine didn't invade Russia. Russia invaded Ukraine.

Admitting Ukraine into Nato in 2008 would have stopped this. Now Sweden and Finland are becoming nato members and won't have to face getting Ukraine'd. Russia made them join.

The only "russian speakers" dying pre war were mostly the LPR/DPR henchmen russia mobilized and armed and fighting in Ukraine.

Russian speakers are still dying now. Russia is forcibly mobilizing them and using them as cannon fodder.

You stated "US policy aligned with it, goading russia to war".

The US isn't goading Russia to war. Russia is taking advantage of a weak US president to build it's empire and continue it's genocidal empire building campaign like it did 100 years ago in Ukraine (again), poland, latvia lithuania, and estonia.

Poland alone saved the rest of Europe from communism as they crushed the soviets at the Miracle on the Vistula and send the red hordes running back to moscow :)

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Thoughtful's avatar

"Where are these labs at?" Really? Firstly, grammar! And you a paid professional for the deep state. For shame. Secondly, take a gander at any US State Dept map of all the biolabs they have already admitted were/are in Ukraine "for defensive weapons development ONLY." Thirdly, do you doubt the presence of the Wuhan Lab? Have you seen evidence of it? Photos? World tours? Surely there would be a giant PR show about it! No? I can't imagine why not.... Oh wait. Maybe because it's top secret BECAUSE IT'S PRIMA FACIE EVIDENCE OF STATE ACTORS DOING THINGS BANNED BY INTERNATIONAL LAW/TREATY. Just maybe...

Do better. Your "arguments" are too transparent.

(Or... just quit.)

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Putin's strong armies have pushed all the WEF-super bio nato soldiers back (while chanting Psalms, I bet). So where have they over run these bio labs? I want to see proof. Something.

I worked in a bio lab as a kid.

It was called a vet clinic.

Wuhan lab actually released a virus. Where are these bio labs? I mean, half of the putin puffers here have said he's won and holds most of Ukraine, so that surely means he's got one or two atleast? Kherson is a major city, what about there? Mariupol? Anything? Melitopol?

What was banned that they were doing? Russia has bio labs too.

Why would Russia care about top secret? They're going to expose us all, right?

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David A's avatar

Vet clinics, oh Benjamin, taking the MSM path. Lets see…

The problem with your assessment is that the USA denied they existed initially and then said these labs were being used for standard medical research, non pathogens, and veterinary labs. These labs were more than just being managed given the expenditures of $2m each for construction and lab equipment during the 2017 timeframe. It’s a little late from the 2005 timeline to believe it took 12 years to figure out what to do with them. Plus a pathogen permit for the as acquired in 2017 for many.

So…

"Donor – the Department of Defense of the United States of America"

The third thing, (after initial denial,) and ( after it was proved that denied pathogens were being worked with) the Pentagon threw out was that the US was helping Ukraine clean up a bio weapons site. This evidently started in 2005.

Hum? why has it taken in excess of 17 years to clean this up. And the DOD still funding it.

EDPs Permit - Permit for working with Pathogens will be obtained after signing TOC and MoU.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210511164310/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-luhansk-eng.pdf

All of these documents show these labs are working with pathogens.

BTW, these false denials are not just logical indications of guilt, but suppression of truth us LEGAL evidence of guilt.

Now that we know that Wuhan was funded by our tax dollars, I do not believe anything our institutions now say.

Now you have the State Department claiming that they are worried about Russia gaining access to the materials. Another big mistake. What are they afraid of? Afraid of old Russian bio labs that the US has been supposedly “cleaning up” for 17 years?

Then you get the MSM saying that these were all left over labs from the Soviet Union. Well, look at the construction contract dates for these labs and we see that is a lie.

These were not veterinarian labs. SHEESH. This was all happening at the same time we were funding Wuhan’s Coronavirus GOF research, and Hunter Biden’s company

( yet another company paying Hunter Biden outrageous amounts of money for an area he has ZERO expertise in.) was running some of these labs.

Good God Benjamin, get out of Ukraine.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Cool...this justifies the invasion and war crimes clearly. But you're believing what they say now?

Started in 2005 whenever Ukraine was still a Russian puppet state?

Noted.

Now where are the captured bio lab sites being paraded on Tass and RT?

Surely there is something as the brave, Christian forces known as the Russian army have over run the Ukrainians? Pictures? Video?

How come the leak came from China and not these labs?

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David A's avatar

Benjamin, this us a well researched article on our DOD labs around the world… https://dilyana.bg/the-pentagon-bio-weapons/#comments

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AngelaK's avatar

Actually Zelenskyy is a mentally unhinged puppet following orders.

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Peter GL's avatar

Much like the bozo in that big white house in DC

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

He's not.

he's doing a fantastic job of rallying the free world and his country.

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Thoughtful's avatar

OMG. I just vomited in my mouth a little.

I had really hoped you weren't a troll. I will no longer doubt it.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I think he is just an algorithm.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Facts are hard.

:)

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Politico Phil's avatar

As much as you repeat that mantra, you must have a very difficult time with facts.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I don't.

One word: Holodmor.

Another word: Invasion of Nato.

3rd word: Soviet expansion.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I need to find the links to him playing a piano with his wiener, and other of him dancing as a transgender in high heels. This is Brandon's woke/NATO hero.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

This dude who is making Putin out to be a fool?

Putin was a KGB guy who tortured dissidents and ran a secret police agency.

Somehow he's better?

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Politico Phil's avatar

I'll give you one thing: you're good for a laugh.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I'm good with facts, too.

Ya'll ain't though.

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Earnshaw's avatar

Isn't Biden mentally unhinged too?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Biden isn't mentally unhinged, he's a senile child sniffer. There's a difference. "Mentally unhinged" requires something to be there to go unhinged.

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Lone Starr's avatar

Go away, Ukraine simp.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Facts are hard 😉.

Gotten your Sputnik shot, comrade?

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Earnshaw's avatar

Chilling! What a gaggle-f+÷=!!!

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Jen's avatar

Agree with all of the above. And actually, they started covid many years before Trump was on the scene. That was just the perfect timing for them to do it. But looking back over many administrations and specifically when Fraudci was installed and when the labs were started up, they'd been planning to do this to us for quite a while unfortunately.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I remember reading early on in the plandemic that it was originally planned for 2034 I think. But they had to ramp it up because Hillary lost and Orange man won, and the elites were loosing control.

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Julie's avatar

It started out as Agenda 2021, but had to be moved because of Trump's unexpected win. Man, I still just laugh at Hillary's shock when she realized she lost to Trump. Sigh. But they are certainly making up for lost time...

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Linda Sartain's avatar

And vote-changing software. Remember the Server in Frankfurt Germany, CIA hq, that according to Sidney Powell, the "good guys " have it. Votes were sent overseas to Spain and Germany, and changed . Remember Michigan. Even FL votes were changed.

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

I agree the election was stolen, of course, and I had thought at the time the pandemic may have been started for that purpose. I expected the pandemic to quickly wind down after Biden got in. Then it didn't, but everything got ramped up more and the jab mania got out of hand and crazy people are still walking around with masks.

The agenda seems to be much larger than getting rid of Trump.

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Jen's avatar

Yes! That is exactly what I expected! I figured they'd open back up the schools because we all know they closed them only to hurt Trump as much as possible and make everyone miserable. I figured they'd swoop in and then the media would praise and sing about how wonderful life is (similar to what they did during the Obama years). All the while they'd pass a bunch of bills behind the scenes that would make everything more expensive for us. But life could largely go back to normal. That is the opposite of what happened. It got 1,000x worse when they came into power. You're right - it speaks to a much larger plan none of us were really aware of.

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