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Haley Heathman's avatar

“It just took until 2022 to get there.”

Indeed it did. But only because Queen Hillary was foiled. Looks like they were gearing up for war in 2014 in anticipation of Hillary’s ascendency to the throne. Trump derailed that. But they still had to keep the heat on Russia and cooked up Russiagate and spent the last 4 years blaming Putin and Russia for everything. Propaganda 101.

Now that the lapdog Biden is in office, they can finally get the war with Russia they’ve been angling for since 2014. Trump bought us time. You can see why they pulled out every stop to make sure he wasn’t elected again.

Like all the Covid crimes, by the time the election business gets adjudicated by any official measure, the damage will have been done.

Commit the crimes and don’t worry about the consequences because there won’t be any, at least not for several years.

Now the answer as to WHY they want war to start WWIII with Russia is less clear. I can speculate but the real reason will probably not be clear for some time, probably in retrospect long after the catastrophic damage has been done.

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

"Now the answer as to WHY they want war to start WWIII with Russia is less clear."

The West is collapsing e.g. its fiat money debt fuelled binge for the past few decades. They want to blame someone for it. They will blame Putin and Russia. They also believe that WWII got us out of the depression and a WWIII with Russia can do the same... Also, much of the West's fossil fuel infrastructure would get destroyed e.g. Europe/UK is dependent on undersea pipelines. They can implement their green agenda - at least in Europe...

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Frab's avatar

It would seem that Putin's unabashed nationalism stands in direct opposition to the NWO. Taking him out and replacing him with a WEF puppet seems critical to their plans. It would allow not only for the rape and pillage of Russian natural resources, but would stage the next step in the NWO progression, which is China.

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

And his promotion of Orthodox Christianity and traditional values (sure, its politically expedient for him to do so)... Same with the Serbs when 100,000 came out for an Orthodox procession to march against the sacred Europride event and next thing you know, there is trouble in Kosovo... Againnnnn....

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

What orthodox values include looting, rape, torture, and murder?

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

Unfortunately, those are "features" of wartime and lawless epochs from the dawn of human history. I'm not justifying barbarity, only telling the truth. Man is still an animal. At the best of times, with a thin veneer of civilization attempting to restrain bestial instincts. To wish it away will be as successful as attempting to persuade a lion to become vegan.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Generally, Russian armies violate the laws of armed conflict as a general rule.

Western ones don’t.

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daverkb's avatar

I think that this is basically right. I would add that it is a nationalism which 1) aims to cultivate a rise in the standard of living, 2) promotes sound financial and development policy, 3) recognizes that borders and sovereignty equate in terms of jurisdictional integrity, and 4) that no society can thrive in chaos.

The biggest thing Putin accomplished was a shift from Soviet ideology to re-instituting the Russian Orthodox Church as a basic point of moral reference. The one thing we in the West should understand that One World Woke Globalism hates, demonical hates Christian religion. Why? Because Wokies cannot and will not tolerate any religion which is an obstacle competitor to its presuppositional world view. That is, in the Wokie universe, separation of church and state really means marginalization of Christianity ahead of outright elimination.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

“That is, in the Wokie universe, separation of church and state really means marginalization of Christianity ahead of outright elimination.”

Exactly right.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

The problem is in Russia the church is run by the state. It’s a dead religion. They preach their own woke gospel. The chief executive is so wealthy he makes Zelensky look like a plebe.

The chief of the Russian Orthodox Church said dying in Ukraine will cleanse you of your sins.

Where in the Bible is that?

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Juliah's avatar

'Suffer little children to come unto me'?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

That literally has nothing to do with what I posted

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Why is Hunter taking Russian money still?

Why did he take almost 4

Million dollars from a guy connected to the mayor of Moscow?

😉

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Neanderthalensis's avatar

One has to look no further then the Bible and in particular the Book of Revelation. These are Satanic forces out to destroy everything in their path. We KNOW these things must happen, and the end will come. And a new heaven and a new earth. Besides that there is no other rational explanation.

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Kelly's avatar

I get so scared sometimes in watching what is happening. Then I remember Who wins, and that, no matter how bad it gets, it is all just temporary. And I know where I am going.

And I know where THEY are going. They are gonna have quite the reckoning when that happens. I wouldnt wanna be them.

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Ellen Komorowski's avatar

You are so right Kelly! I know where I am going, but I have family members who are not believers and I worry so much for them!

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

It has been Russia Russia Russia since Putin assumed power and stopped the western bankers from fleecing his country. I think the Trump Russiagate gambit would have been played on anyone from outside The Party. Gotta keep the Ukraine scams going and reopen the Russian lands to the west raiders.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

The thing is nobody wants Russia. Russia wants the west.

Russia is the one invading and annexing other nations, not the other way around.

Russia claims Alaska, the Baltics, Poland, and Ukraine as theirs. Problem is, the people there don’t want them there

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Juliah's avatar

The point is many of us don't want this West. I for sure would not stand to protect it as it exists today.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Then why live here if it's so horrible? Russia is hurting for conscripts, I mean people.

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Juliah's avatar

First, I live in the UK which follows the same path as the US, and second its not binary - if I object to what the West now stands for it doesn't mean I support what Russia stands for.

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nmbr3480's avatar

That is my biggest question. Why?

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

Surely one factor, if not necessarily the dominant one, is the Eastern European Jews' ancestral hatred of Russia. For similar reasons, more recently they had good reason to loathe Germany. Even though the actual persons affected are long dead (generations ago), their descendants don't easily forget injuries real or imagined. These people are very insular, very highly educated and they gravitate to powerful positions in private and public life, in numbers far beyond what their tiny share of the "host" population would suggest. Although this comes off as sounding anti-Semitic, consider that it is, or I intend it, as a neutral observation of a general historical truth. Outsized Jewish roles in governments, commerce and other power centers, in large part, explains (I didn't say "justifies") the periodic upheavals over the centuries that have ended badly for them: pogroms, purges, exiles or worse.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

I’m no fan of DJT, but I think what you’ve said here about Trump’s election derailing the NWO / WEF plans for the war between the Russians and Ukes is highly probable.

Good catch.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Did you notice that Russia only made large military actions during Biden and Obama's and Bush's term?

Trump was a wild card and had no problems using force on them.

Poland and Ukraine were all aboard with Trump.

Melania was from a formerly communist country and didn't want to go back.

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