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Harold Saive's avatar

Back in JAN/FEB, Nuland and Biden announced they would stop the Nord Stream pipelines if Putin's troops crossed into Ukraine.

This turned out to be a hollow threat when Europe stopped using Nord Stream gas long before the "sabotage". So there was no real reason "operatives" to risk nuclear conflict by blowing it up.

Keep in mind that Putin never dispatched his military to protect Nord Stream from Biden's promise during this 7 month period. So it makes sense to me that Putin would decide a false flag sabotage would be easy since Biden and Nuland had already alluded they would sabotage the Nord Stream pipes.

In the public's mind, Putin is now poised to return the favor by a Sabotage on the recently announced Norway/Poland "Baltic Pipeline" thus sending Europe into a hard DEEP-FREEZE where millions could die.

Also, the sabotage makes it impossible for Russia to turn it Nord Stream back on for "humanitarian reasons" after the Baltic Pipeline is sabotaged as Putin's "perceived" act of revenge. The final blame will be pointed to Biden and Nuland for publicly threatening the security of Nord Stream in the first place.

So we could predict the Baltic pipe will be sabotaged by "operatives" loyal to WEF/DAVOS Green News Dealers and be blamed on Russia as a clear act of revenge, thus sending all of Europe into a DARK WINTER.

Remember, these leaders are all actors playing their part on the WEF/DAVOS world stage. Putin is an ACTOR - Not a White-Hat.

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David A's avatar

Russia did it eh?

US policy 8 years ago

“ Well, the Russians will run out of cash before the Europeans run out of energy. And I understand that it’s uncomfortable…” Condoleeza Rice

“ Over the long run, you simply want to change the structure of energy independence. You want [Europe] to depend more on the North American energy platform of oil and gas that we’re finding in North America”. C.R.

US policy today…

Biden said NS II would not happen, and that German perspective or opinion was not even relevant!

I take the assistant Secretary of State’s affirmation that NS II would not function, “ one way or the other “ very seriously.

Also, clear US policy was to create the Ukrainian conflict, and expand it. Russia wants it to end with Russian success.

The circumstances were that disparate European populations were fed up with the sacrifice of their economic lives for an area of Ukraine that voted close to 80 percent for the pro Russian Ukraine party in 2014. .

If and when, and my view is that it is only a matter of when ( due to the severe economic hardship barreling into the German economy) the people demand that the Russian demands are accepted, Russia will have won. Russia’s ace in the hold was the ability to liberate the energy starved broken EU economy.

Russia did not commit severe economic self-harm, and throw away their best chance at ending the Ukrainian venture in success, with some vague hope that they could pin this on the US and drive a wedge between Washington and the EU.

The sane folk in the EU were definitely beginning to drive that wedge for Russia.

The joint One World crowd is in solidarity with expanding the Ukraine conflict. The NS sabotage is highly capable of doing just that; expanding the Ukrainian conflict.

For Russia losing your strongest player, harming your own economic health at a critical juncture, risking getting caught in such a foolish adventure, all for a vague hope of pinning this on the US. (All in all, great risk, definite harms, very uncertain gain)

Additional reasons…

An impoverished Europe with manufacturing shut down benefits US Corporations greatly. $Billions & $Billions. The “threat” of an EU beating the USA economically is removed. ( short sighted and likely long term very wrong, but this has been US thought process)

Russian Gas Revenue gets shifted to USA gas revenue.

It conforms with and accelerates the Zero Carbon goals of Agenda 30 & Paris.

It moves Europe dramatically closer to the desired “Great Reset” status that the Biden Admin and the EU Government advocate. Can’t “build back better” until you have “burned beyond belief” after all.

Russia has continued to deliver gas & oil the whole time with the volume reduced when sanctions prevented Business As Usual. Hardly the actions of someone wanting to hurt their customer.

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David A's avatar

In my comment above from “additional reasons” on, I am quoting EM Smith at his blog here… https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2022/09/30/less-than-an-hour-the-world-changes/#comment-160356

( highly recommend)

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Harold Saive's avatar

Forgetting about who performed the sabotage - Nord Stream is cut off from the EU but if Russia still supplies all of Ukraine, Putin has managed to capture all of Ukraine - not just the disputed settlements - in an energy fiat created by Biden;s NATO sabotage. Was this the intended outcome all along? If so, the real players are not Biden and Putin, but more likely the depopulationists at the WEF.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Russia hasn't captured all of Ukraine. The Ukrainians are currently performing massive offensives that are liberating important cities such as Lyman, Kremmina, and moving towards Kherson with a break through.

Ask the Russian sources about Lyman. They are distraught and depressed.

What more needs to be said?

Or are you saying Russia is in kyiv right now?

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Harold Saive's avatar

My point is that, because of the Nord Stream disaster, Putin still has nGAS supply to all of Ukraine, not just the disputed territories. If Putin destroys the Baltic Pipe in revenge for the Nord Stream, WEF will succeed in it's goal of energy starvation to the EU.

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