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Chevrus's avatar

In the meantime I shall post this link to a handy timeline. I do so because it is reasonably accurate and it may help to dissolve some of the scuttlebutt around the Russia Ukraine scenario.

https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/24/timeline-euromaidan-the-original-ukraine-crisis/

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CraigN's avatar

Thanks for that link. Interesting timeline and would like the "Ukraine good, Putin bad" commenters to respond to how that timeline justifies support of the Ukraine 'government'. Fairly certain if Taiwan were to suggest joining SEATO, China would respond in kind.

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Chevrus's avatar

Whereas I don't care if they do or not simply because they will continue to tote the narrative no matter the evidence. It's funny that after coup in 2014, the installed government consisted of people primarily not from Ukraine. I cant cite the number, but I'll poke around for them. In the case of Taiwan, China has an interesting relationship business-wise with Taiwan. They rely on each other for materials and products, and are somewhat symbiotic. In the case of the US military using Taiwan as a weapons depot, there is really no reason to invade. China already demonstrated during the Pelosi's visit that they can simply surround and blockade them until they replace their bureaucrats with more reasonable people.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Wait, you’re saying someone joining a defensive alliance is a bad thing?

Taiwan should join seato.

You saying China is some beacon of freedom and prosperity?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

The “assurance” is meaningless when Russia keeps invading and annexing Eastern European countries to keep them weak and tied up with infighting.

Moldova ring a bell?

Georgia?

Ukraine?

Yanuckovych was ousted because the people remember Soviet bondage and the holodmor which killed 7 million Ukrainians through hunger and starvation.

If you treat your brother states nice they don’t leave you and join nato.

Remember katyn forest?

Russia blamed it on the Germans and onto acknowledged they did it 60 years later in declassified files.

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