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Katherine's avatar

Still at it, Benji? Lol. You are lumping Ukraine in with the Covid Coup, whether you have the grey matter to figure this out or not! Ever heard of "propaganda?" Being utilized on a naive and unsuspecting public? Goods grief. The whole Covid Con was pure propaganda as is the current push for a proxy war with Russia that will be and is DEVESTATING for Ukraine. We are as guilty, if not more so, than Putin, this time around the block, and the entire readership here is well-informed enough to know this. To say the public supports it is pathetic.

Those who do have no idea about the real effects of this on Ukraine, and may well be suffering from prion disease enduced by spike protien encoded mRNA encased Nano Lipid Particles crossing their blood brain barriers. They'll support any bloody thing what-so-ever, including boys are girls and babies after delivery aren't actuallly people yet, and therefore you can take their lives, no problem. Oh, and pre -puberty little boys should be able to remove their penises & their testicles and take dangerous drugs because they are afraid of growing facial hair one day. Those are the people "supporting" war in Ukraine, Benji.

DEATH is what we are creating for that nation, not sunshine and a field of flowers, like the propaganda tells the sheep. HELL is what our tax dollars are buying. If there were ANY adults left this mess in the Ukraine would be resolved by DIPLOMATS, not bombs and Neo Nazis and missiles. And I would not be buying them with proceeds of forced liquidation of my family businesses! A La Biden and his criminal connections. Just look at the crap on Hunter's laptop.

Go there yourself, if this is your cause, but don't come back and expect to ever be normal again. And you will have no one to blame but yourself, unlike my friends and family who were drafted into Vietnam, and the other war games of the unGodly.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Right. I think we're done here.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Diplomats can't stop invading Russians or their missiles or tanks. War is upon Ukraine, whether you like it or not. They are punching well above their weight and when they join nato they will have the most battle hardened and experienced army at fighting Nato's adversary, Russia.

When a man breaks into your house and threatens you, do you roll over and surrender or do you fight back?

Russia doesn't admit Ukraine has a right to exist. They murdered 7 million Ukrainians in one year because of Communism and the fact they hated Ukraine going all the way back to the days of Catherine the "great" and Ivan the terrible.

Russia bombs apartment buildings daily with freedom loving Iran's shahed 136 drones. But the USA is worse? They launch dozens of drones daily.

You can't resolve something with a tyrant. He is determined to get his way no matter what. The 2014 war was ended with a stalemate which led to this.

Would you give up and get a covid shot? Why not? How hard would you fight? Negotiate. Instead of taking 2 shots with a booster, just go for one 2 shot series. Right?

Now imagine someone's national identity and nation and their very survival.

Putin is to blame for this and his empire building, not Ukraine.

I've been following the "Current thing" since 2014 when the Ukrainians overthrew their Russian puppet.

I'm willing to go, I just need a set of orders and a plane ticket.

After 13 years in the military and 2 mobilizations I'm still a funny, happy guy :).

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Politico Phil's avatar

"Current thing"....

Clearly, you are simply an extension of the ethnic wars that have been going on over there for thousands of years and the very reason America has no business getting involved there, then, now or ever. You can stay in your corner where you can't harm anyone and whine about getting revenge on the Russians all by yourself. No thanks.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I’ve been following the “current thing” since before Covid was even a word in your vocabulary.

It was the “current thing” for me in 2014 as I watched the Ukrainian people overthrow their Russian oppressors.

We have business getting involved as it threatens our allies.

You know, the same ones who went to Afghanistan and Iraq with us.

You may be the kind of person to abandon someone who helped us during our time of need but I am not.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Oh, you mean the "forever war" in Afghanistan and the war about WMD's that didn't exist in Iraq....oh, yeah, I remember. Two wars to continually drain the wealth of the American people and money-laundry it back to the elites. These are not my allies. They are the allies of the imperial USG of which you are a part. You have simply illustrated my point that you are an extension of the ethnic tribal wars that have been going on in Europe for thousands of years. Americans want no part of it.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Americans actually support aid to Ukraine, that’s a bi partisan issue.

Yes, Iraq did have WMDs. They found some chemical shells. Do your own research. The Kurds in the north didnt gas themselves.

Let’s make Ukraine pay us back for the aid, let’s put them into nato 😉

Remember during hurricane Harvey tnose helicopters with the weird signs on the sides? Those were Singaporean helicopters. They’re huge friends of the USA.

Yes, Ukraine is an ally of the USA. You can stick your head in the sand but facts don’t care about your feelings.

Next you’ll tell me the Covid shot is safe and effective

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Politico Phil's avatar

I got a better idea. Get rid of NATO and the USG get out of the empire business. You remind me of a girl friend I once knew. She was always saying she doesn't lie. When you have to repeat something continually that's prolly a good indication that the opposite is true. Your constant assertion that you have all the facts belies the truth.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Nato exists for a reason-to protect it's member states from Russia. It has only been activated once and that was to protect the USA on 9/12/01.

If the Us government was in the empire business we would be making Iraq a 51st state. Same with numerous other nations. I mean, like Russia does. After all, they ran a "referendum" where the citizens "Chose" to be apart of Russia. That's how empires are made. That's not what the USA is doing.

If I have to repeat something maybe you should listen the first time.

Watching Russian trolls slowly change their tune has been hilarious.

February 24th: Russia strong!

May 24th: Russia made a gesture of goodwill and gave Zmiinyi island back to Ukraine.

October 10th: Russia still stronk, withdrew (ran) from Kharkiv, but the real Army is coming soon, russia stronk, putin stronk

The full circle has been glorious. It's the circle of life.

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Politico Phil's avatar

NATO existed to counter the USSR. The whole reason for NATO's existence ended with the fall of the Berlin Wall. For the elite, NATO is an extension of the USG empire.

"If the USG was in the empire business..."?? Seriously expect anyone other than a moron to believe that? In one statement, you have demonstrated your complete ignorance and lack of understanding of history.

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