I don't think Mr. Childers is advocating for ignoring the sin and not taking those responsible to court. Hes a LAWYER. But to those who were allowing themselves to be used for the greater good who didnt do their due diligence and know it and apologize to friends and family, we must be forgiving. It wont make everything like it was. Our truat has to be rebuilt with them but it exposed character we had ignored or were ignorant of before. Perhaps theae relationships might be better because we will have more respect for being smartee than they thought we were. π€·π»ββοΈπ That would be true humility.
While I appreciate your prospective, I am tired of turning the other cheek. Every time I do it seems like I get slapped again. As a biological XX female and critical thinking being, I and many of us have been cancelled out of existence. βIβm mad as hell and Iβm not going to take this any more!β
The trouble with people like Emily is that she is using her own lack of doing diligence as a reason to excuse her bad behavior. Like, she just didnβt know the koolaid had cyanide in it, but now she does, so can we just go back to making our mud pies. Or something.
Iβve done some things that, given what I know now, I would not have done. I donβt go around saying, βwell, I just didnβt know.β Instead, I say, βwow, I wish I had listened to the people who trying to tell me x, that I had asked them some questions, instead of writing them off as kooks.β And I say, βIβm really sorry for what I did, I wish I had known differently. I would have done differently. Please forgive me.β
From my perspective, you are a rarity. I havenβt heard a single personal account of such an apology in my circle. My daughter was tortured by her in-laws through those times. Crickets. Just not a topic any longer.
My apology has nothing to do with the current craziness. Iβm referring to other stuff. Although I hope that I would have the courage and moral character to be willing to admit wrong doing in this area as well.
And, in full disclosure, I have not actually been faced with having to actually say those things face to face, in a particular instance that is in my mind. So, I acknowledge that mentally envisioning the apology is easier than having to speak it out loud. And especially if I discovered that what I didnβt listen to or know ended up causing harm. So, just trying to remember my own human frailty too.
No RJ&RB, I don't think so either. In fact, I know not, because he laid out his plan for bringing them to justice in his substack last Friday. I thought Jeff's comments were well balanced and thoughtful. I was just venting to the woman who wrote the article, who will never see it, but I feel better anyway.
I don't think Mr. Childers is advocating for ignoring the sin and not taking those responsible to court. Hes a LAWYER. But to those who were allowing themselves to be used for the greater good who didnt do their due diligence and know it and apologize to friends and family, we must be forgiving. It wont make everything like it was. Our truat has to be rebuilt with them but it exposed character we had ignored or were ignorant of before. Perhaps theae relationships might be better because we will have more respect for being smartee than they thought we were. π€·π»ββοΈπ That would be true humility.
While I appreciate your prospective, I am tired of turning the other cheek. Every time I do it seems like I get slapped again. As a biological XX female and critical thinking being, I and many of us have been cancelled out of existence. βIβm mad as hell and Iβm not going to take this any more!β
I agree with what you said.
The trouble with people like Emily is that she is using her own lack of doing diligence as a reason to excuse her bad behavior. Like, she just didnβt know the koolaid had cyanide in it, but now she does, so can we just go back to making our mud pies. Or something.
Iβve done some things that, given what I know now, I would not have done. I donβt go around saying, βwell, I just didnβt know.β Instead, I say, βwow, I wish I had listened to the people who trying to tell me x, that I had asked them some questions, instead of writing them off as kooks.β And I say, βIβm really sorry for what I did, I wish I had known differently. I would have done differently. Please forgive me.β
From my perspective, you are a rarity. I havenβt heard a single personal account of such an apology in my circle. My daughter was tortured by her in-laws through those times. Crickets. Just not a topic any longer.
My apology has nothing to do with the current craziness. Iβm referring to other stuff. Although I hope that I would have the courage and moral character to be willing to admit wrong doing in this area as well.
And, in full disclosure, I have not actually been faced with having to actually say those things face to face, in a particular instance that is in my mind. So, I acknowledge that mentally envisioning the apology is easier than having to speak it out loud. And especially if I discovered that what I didnβt listen to or know ended up causing harm. So, just trying to remember my own human frailty too.
Exactly. I am all for people doing that. But it takes humility and that is in very short supply nowadays, seemingly.
And yet, I know that there are family members who will never admit they were wrong and apologize. Ah, the hubris...
So I'm good with social distance from them. Less stress that way.
ππ Actually, yes! I have naturally distanced myself from so many--much less stress!
No RJ&RB, I don't think so either. In fact, I know not, because he laid out his plan for bringing them to justice in his substack last Friday. I thought Jeff's comments were well balanced and thoughtful. I was just venting to the woman who wrote the article, who will never see it, but I feel better anyway.
Same