More celebrity SADS; CDC's war on women; the worst flu season in 13 years, for some reason; mask appeal rejected by SCOTUS; my thoughts on the Atlantic's infamous call for grace; and more.
I'm not inclined to grant amnesty to those people with the power to force these mRNA shots on others such as college students, police, fire, nurses and the military, etc. I am not inclined to grant amnesty on those people who fired Dr. Kheriaty. I am not inclined to grant amnesty to those people who have made a concerted effort to destroy Dr. McCullough, Dr. Ryan Cole, Dr. Malone, Dr. Simone Gold, and so many others.
These power mad authoritarians did real damage to far too many people to count depriving the non-compliant of their livelihoods and the many of the compliant of their health and their lives.
The CDC KNEW these "vaccines" were not "safe and effective" almost from the start and yet they pushed them on the public and are still pushing them on the public. It is a crime against humanity.
I have to agree, the higher ups, all knew. Nuremberg trials, are needed. This was a holocausts, not any difference than what the Nazi did. I do feel bad for the masses who bought the line, and thought they were helping their neighbors and friends. However, when my friends told me that, all I could do, was shake my head. "There is no evidence that the shot will be safe." They were to afraid to say no, from blackmail from other family members and friends. The sheep need to be forgiven, the "leaders" all need punishment. In my humble opinion.
I too have pity for the sheep in my former circles. But the problem is that their foolishness made all the evil that ensued possible. And it is still going on apace; the wicked ones are still destroying good Doctors, torturing children, and breaking the world's production and supply chains.
They are moving forward with pHarma running all "medicine" and destroying anyone who doesn't comply.
Fouci et al just got another 10 billion as did that nightmare in Ukraine.
We need to go for those pulling the strings, but we also need to shake their complying minions.
This is exactly correct. It's not over, they are still at it, and the sheep continue to enable it. Until these newly awake and all others stand up, it will continue. It is far from being over.
You are correct Mark. We live in our silos - many of us here live in the "Team Reality" silo. I would venture to say that most, and certainly many, either 1) have no idea the COVID official narrative in all its permutations was bunk, 2) don't care, or 3) are still living in that world, i.e., like my mother who puts on an N95 mask when visitors come in to her house, visitors who include her own children.
Tell your mother to take: Ivermectin and/or C, D3, Quercitin, NAC, etc. Sit in the sunshine as much as possible. Then make her favorite cocktail and tell her to chill and enjoy the life God blessed her with.
Good points, Katherine. I would say, however, that it wasn't simply foolishness that made all this evil possible and, as a retired psychologist, I cannot agree with our esteemed host's assessment of what has become a delusional framework shared by many of those who make up what was once Christendom. What I would call group psychosis is really adherence to a religion that we know as secular humanism and it comes with a whole host of deviant beliefs and false idol worship.
I would guess that the vast majority of those who wore masks as a form of virtue signaling, pointed accusing fingers at those who committed the "heresy" of non-compliance with things like social distancing and a needle in every arm, most of those same people are entirely on board with child sacrifice, sexual deviancy, eugenics programs, and emotivism as the guiding light of sexual identity and a whole host of other monstrous notions.
No. These are not people who are going with the flow to avoid authoritarian sanctioning -- although, to be sure, this was clearly a salient factor, especially early on. These other folks, I would guess about 25 to 30% of us, are living in an alternative universe that is guided by a modernist repudiation of the inherited wisdom of over 2000 years, a world view that is directly opposed to the good news of the gospel and has chosen instead to be in the thrall of demonic psychological infections and, ultimately, the father of lies.
This is what mass formation psychosis is and why it always promotes lawlessness and death, perhaps the best recent example being what made the Nuremburg trials necessary. Being kind and forgiving is all well and good, but we ought not to make the mistake of thinking that the Devil does not exist and that he has nothing to do with the carnage that, not just Fauci and Pfizer et. al. have promoted, but which can be laid at the doorstep of those above them, most notably the globalist technocrats in the old European banking system that has run the west for 4 centuries.
yes, this is a very accurate comment I am afraid. While there are some who merely went along as it was the easier choice for them and their families, there are many others that are demonic followers of this religion and they must be dealt with. We will have to determine how to deal with the followers as well...find a kind way to show them how their actions have endangered us all for generations to come. By not standing up and doing the right thing instead of the popular thing, they enabled all of this carnage. I have thought about this a lot lately as I am still quite angry and I think I am not ready (and may never be ready) to forgive people who wanted to lock people in their homes, force vaccinations and even said parents who don't use this experimental shot on their children should have them taken away. I am just not sure I can forgive those people or ever want to be around them again.
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Forgiveness of what or under what circumstances ... and what is entailed?
Christians are supposed to forgive the genuinely repentant. BUT forgiveness is not a skate free ticket, not a get out of jail card. Forgiveness never overturns the purpose of the Law which is Justice. Thus, a serial killer on death row may repent and obtain salvation, but he still has to face the consequences of his actions by judicial sentencing imposed. Equally so, those in positions of power must be prosecuted by the civil sword for their many criminal acts ... or else there is no Justice.
Some of the sheep who complied (informed consent or not) will suffer from the toxic injections themselves, and grievously suffer from what they may have forced upon their children. These will, many of them, be guilt ridden, angry at what has been forced upon them ... and generally suffer of consequence of their misguided actions to the end of their lives. We already here the refrain, 'Getting the shots was the worse decision I ever made' from quite a few folks. Those who are plain out nuts and persist are our natural enemy and must be resisted and overcome.
But I have to say, agree or not in every detail, Lawyer Childers words as to the sheep made a good deal of sense. And if we can, are able ... our best thing we can do is to lift people up and help them rid themselves of their enslavers.
Amen! I keep wondering what the globalist elites think this world is going to look like when they succeed in getting rid of all of us? But, I suspect that they haven’t looked at that element.
I wonder that too....I think they are so egotistical and stupid. How could you possibly think you could passively wipe out 2/3 of the population (as I've sometimes heard that number referenced) and everything will be ok? Only a godless lunatic could believe they have that kind of power and should even attempt such a stupid thing.
They are psychopaths with the maturity of children. Their hubris is off the charts. That’s why their continued existence is so dangerous. They actually believe that they can control the outcome of WWIII once a nuke is lit up in Ukraine. Having them alive and in positions of power threatens us all.
Whether God (and the Devil) exist or not, most of the evil that occurs in the world is by the hands of Man, directly or indirectly. Whether such humans are in thrall to supernatural powers, I leave up to you.
Remember, "Christendom" burned the Cathars, most of the female healers in Europe, and murdered and raped and enslaved their way throughout the "New World."
And while I look to Jesus and his teachings as the core of my moral center, far too many "human beings" have committed far too much Evil in the name of Christ, God help us, and them.
He was right when He told the religious leaders of his time that Satan was their master.
We have the same problem today, in that those who "preach" at others their religion of "wokeness" which includes horrific treatment of children, and adults, believe themselves to be on morally superior grounds.
There is nothing new under the sun. Evil is abroad on Earth and I do long for simple Christian goodness--- loving the Creator, completely, and loving your neighbor as yourself.
Why is it that men, and women as well, have such a difficult time with this?
"Do unto others as you would have done unto you!"
It really is that simple; now if we could only succeed at that concept!
I don't know, Katherine, you seem like a thoughtful and knowledgeable person of faith, but I have to second most of what Dave says here. There's no question that the Church here on earth is peopled by sinners and that, as a result, it is not a stranger to corruption. This was perhaps especially true during the era that you reference with the Cathars, when politics and religion were more intermingled than they are today and, most importantly, what one believed was regarded as a matter of life and death, in an eternal sense. But there's a lot of modernist propaganda out there, especially about things like the inquisition and the Crusades which, when you look into good sources, turn out to be much less outrageous and more understandable when considered as features of a very different era in human development.
I cannot fathom what you refer to as the execution of "most of the female healers in Europe," incidentally. Again, this sounds like modernist propaganda. The church that Jesus started, the Catholic Church, was the originator of hospitals and orphanages staffed predominantly by women religious, and His mother has been revered as an undoer of knots and healer since the crucifixion. (If you're not familiar with them, you might want to explore the apparitions at Fatima and Lourdes, in particular, which are well verified and justify her reverence as a healer.)
Anyway, it's always important to check ourselves to make sure that our theology reflects what has come to us from on high rather than what originates within our own desires and perspectives. For example, your characterization of Jesus' teaching seems to ignore that, in addition to telling us to love one another, he called Peter Satan and said that he came "not to bring peace but a sword." Also, the religious leaders of his day were not Christians but heretics who had preached His coming for centuries but failed to recognize him when he arrived.
Most significantly, perhaps, your characterization of Christendom, aka western civilization, seems to ignore the fact that it was the Catholic Church that first denounced slavery, and it was in the Christian west that it was eradicated. This goes also for the predominant religion of most of the rest of the [pre-Christian world, human sacrifice. You correctly refer to the fact that, as the west has turned away from Christ, it has reverted to many pagan beliefs and rituals, child sacrifice being the most stark contemporary American example. And if you scan the historical landscape, you will see that it has been the atheists, e.g. the Nazis, Communists, French revolutionaries, etc. who have committed far and away the lion's share of murder, rape, and enslavement throughout human history.
I don't fault you for your views here. We are all traveling our own journey of faith, and I only began to get a clue in my early 60's, but I thought it might be helpful to pass on a bit of what I have learned, and I hope that I have done it in a kind and respectful way. In signing off, a wonderful little book comes to mind that I think might be as helpful to you as it was to me. It is a brief history of Cortes and the Aztecs by Warren Carroll called "Our Lady of Guadalupe and the Conquest of Darkness." I found it quite the eye-opener.
I think there is a huge body of history you are not taking into account.
My studies in U.S. and world history led me to asking many questions, and finally pulling original source documents, some written by those "Christians," more accurately Conquistadors, who came to the New World and engaged in the activities I described earlier.
Also the records of the "Church" in Europe in relation to the Inquisition and the Catholic/ Protestant wars.
Also the behavior of the "Church" and the Catholic reform schools and their treatment of the Native American children placed in their care.
What I am saying is that all consolidation of power by men, whether in government or official religious organizations do not behave as Jesus taught, and in fact quite often become conduits of very dark energies.
I agree with Paul when he said his war is not with flesh and blood but powers and principalities and darkness in high places.
Too often this has flowed through the churches of this world and that is not propaganda. I have read their own records.
But I do NOT argue that when a Christian, or a genuinely Christian church exists, they change, heal, and enlighten our world. I have spent a portion of my life studying various religious and ancient teachings, and when all is said and done I return to Jesus every time. He is the true Son of God because he taught Love above all else. And Forgiveness.
My frustration is that too few "Christians" actually practice what He taught.
As to Lourdes and Fatima, I and my husband have traveled to Lourdes in person. He had profound experiences there and I dearly love the entire area. God has blessed us in very many different ways and that location, it's revelations and it's water is one of those.
Fatima is fascinating and again a teaching and a prophecy we should heed, if we had wisdom. The same of the Madonna of Guadeloupe.
Man always wants his own way, and his ego makes him easy prey for very dark forces.
I started my conversation with a wish for simple, basic Christian values- to love one another, and to do unto others as you would have done unto you. I stand by that, and looking at our Nation I see only one or two, in positions of authority or influence who embody this concept, and those few are under relentless attack.
We must Stand Up with the forces of Goodness, Truth and Justice to support those who are working for a fair, free, and just world, or all that is good may die.
The so called "vaccines" are gene therapies, nano technology designed, it appears, to alter our DNA which is likely our physical antenna to the Holy Spirit, (in my personal opinion.)
Rudolph Steiner warned us that in the future belief in God, or the non-physical realm would be seen as insanity, and that a vaccine would separate us from our direct experience of our connection to God. I believe we are there. And I believe we are watching portions of the book of Revelations play out.
I wish Christianity was more available to many of lost sheep today, but I know the errors and histories of the past keep many away. For me that is a sorrow.
But there is no doubt that a genuine Christian, one who lives what Jesus taught, is the best "attractant" and hope for those lost in this world today.
Katherine ... When I began reading your comment, I momentarily wondered if I was not reading the New York Times or the Atlantic Monthly. Like the NYT, the cast of villains is cherry picked and packaged for the reader, but in a vacuum chamber devoid of any real historical context. I would also point out that the entirety seems by unstated presupposition to be more assumptional Marxianity than Christianity ... and the same tripe with regularity uttered from the pulpits of the Fallen Church every Sunday.
I am curious as to the loving thing, and the tincture thin thing of loving your neighbor. How is this done? And what about 'fear of the God is the beginning of wisdom? Where does this fit in? Or are we all just one big shining sea of loving mash potatoes without definition?
It is obvious that all institutions which seek power on Earth run amuck, including the church. Jesus said "build your treasure in Heaven, not on Earth, where thieves and rust destroy." He also said speak to God as you would your father, Abba, and that Love is the whole Law.
Those who preach the Old Testament seem to miss the fact that our Savior preached Peace. And Love, not Fear. He did condemn the religious leaders of His day and clearly called them out as children of Satan. The people He healed, fed, taught and comforted. He did not strike them with lashes, or scourge and condemn them. Or preach fear.
He said "pick up your bed and walk, your sins are forgiven." There is a huge difference in the way you approach those injured and trod on by the powerful and the wicked, and the way you approach those with the power, placing their boots on the necks of the vulnerable and the weak.
For the dark ones of this Earth, those who burn the innocent at the stake, rape, murder and pillage, and call it God's work, they belong to the Devil himself, regardless of whom they name as their "Leader." C. S. Lewis was pretty good on that teaching.
The same is true for those force injecting children, women and men with toxic experimental Nano Lipid Particle encased mRNA that reverse transcribes into our DNA, changing what God (or Nature) has created.
As Jesus said, "By their fruits Ye shall know them."
Yes, becoming a Christian does mean some healthy fear at your errors, mistakes and sins, when you accept that the Universe is just, or that "Karma works," or that "Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord, I will repay!" However you manage to come to that understanding it is a fundamental truth. But if you are a Christian you also know that all that is actually required for forgiveness is genuine repentance. And that like the prodigal son, you are still loved, completely, and can come "home" at any time.
"Christianity" has many sins on it's score card, just as every organization, and especially religious ones do where men wield too much power and their lust for more turns them into servants of the Devil instead of servants of God.
Has it repented? Turned, come home? Somehow, in most cases, I do not see it.
And trying to teach people to fear God is not the path my Teacher took. I look to the Prince of Peace, the One who told me to call God Abba, the One who said I will lighten your load, not place burdens on your back. The One who brought us the Law of Love.
So for me fear is not the path. For the unrepentant Sinners of this world, yes, it's a great starting location. But good luck getting them there; they are unrepentant, as almost always in history!
Get Fouci, and Biden, and Ralph Baric, Peter Dasik, Bill Gates, Nancy Pelosi, Gavin Newsom, Jeff Bezos, Zuckerberg, Kate Brown, Kalaus Schwab etc., etc., etc to Fear God's Wrath. That would be helpful!
For the average human stuck with dealing with the catastrophe these people have willfully created, fear is not going to help. They need Love, Healing and Comfort. And Divine intervention. I pray for mercy for all those who foolishly lined up and took these toxins daily. And I pray for Justice for all those who planned, executed and enforced this agenda while I work towards that end, daily as well. That is the path I'm on. And so far my Father appears to be pleased.
PS- if you still do not comprehend the whole loving your neighbor as yourself concept it goes something like this, "Do unto others as you would have done unto you." Or an older less evolved concept, but still useful, "Do not that to others which you do not wish to have done unto you."
Getting burned at the stake, regardless of "historical context," enslaved, raped, blown up, nuked, starved, frozen, GMOed, sterilized, experimented on, bankrupted, or force masked, smeared, attacked, deplatformed, etc. all fall into that category, as does defamation, slander, lies, doctors whose careers are destroyed by medical boards which are enthralled by pHarma, doctors forced to watch their patients die when hospitals take away even Vitamin C.... The list is endless, but any decent human being who's connection to God and the Holy Spirit is intact, even if they do not call it by those names, understands what I'm saying. I hope you do as well.
If you don't like it, don't dish it out to others. Simple, really. And what you would like your neighbor to do to you, do that to them. Again, simple. Only humans can make that flawlessly clear concept muddy and confusing, lol! Maybe one day our species will actually pay attention to Jesus's teachings. That will be when we will have come home, like the prodigal son.
Yes we certainly have been far to tolerant in many things. We have to say no to many more things. Like the transgender etc. So few in the general population, and then give them a voice far times greater than they numbers to show tolerance. Bad idea. It is not normal.
You speak well the Truth. World View is everything. And World View bu presupposition is the channel by which all culture is informed. And in all of this World View business, there is no such thing as cultural neutrality.
Humanistic Law is basically Satanic Law/de Sade Law. Do what you will. Humanistic Law, of course, wraps itself up in all manner of cloth of human concern. But what, for example, are Human Rights? Nothing more than Simon Says Rights and who is Simon? Nothing more than the god-state. And the god-state always demonstrates it 'higher interest' ... and higher than yours. Think Mandates, for example.
The civil rights of any Humanist administration are the counterfeit of unalienable rights as referenced in the American Independence Declaration. The first is of Man. The later is of God. And never the twain shall meet.
My friends here in Seattle still don’t think there was anything wrong with showing a vax card OR a negative test. It still makes perfect sense to them that the vax protects everyone and it’s only responsible that the unvaxed produce a test, because the unvaxed are more likely to transmit covid.🤦🏻♀️Yes!!! In late 2022 I have friends who STILL believe this.🤦🏻♀️Not one of my friends or former coworkers finds a need for amnesty. That’s what makes Oster’s supposition so odious.
TeacherLori - this completely boils down to the fact that the majority were brainwashed into conflating wearing the mask and getting the vaccine with “doing your part for society”, and “loving your neighbor”. For most it had absolutely nothing to do with the science behind how PPE actually works or the years of data we already had complied on masks, because they refused to listen to Industrial Hygienists who are the actual PPE experts or believe any of those past studies. Masking 100% became “I wear my mask for you, you wear your mask for me.” Same with vaccines, it just became completely a “do your part” campaign and no one actually stopped to look at whether the actual shot was going to even help or hurt them. So, of course they would gladly wear their mask and show their vax card because to them it meant they were being a “good, kind person”. And those who did not, were “evil, mean, humanity haters.” How could they not love their neighbor?! So they ignore actual data even as the months go by and it starts to slap them in the face, like obvious negative vaccine efficacy and adverse effects. Even when the data starts to come from their beloved three letter bureaucratic organizations and leaders they pretend they don’t hear it because to them, those thoughts and beliefs have now forever been solidified as opposition and being unkind. They cannot get that initial propaganda out of their heads because they bought into it so hard. Twenty boosters later they’ll still be there, wearing their masks, saying it’s a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
The whole thing was Narcissistic bullying. The covert "The government is just trying to help you be a good citizen." BS. Gas lighting that the Doctors who got cancelled had "misinformation," which now CDC is saying was correct information. Dig sheeple, you were lied to by your government!! Will you still trust them?????
I agree. And this was done very purposely by those in power. First a "shock and awe" campaign at such a magnitude those without spiritual strength could not handle the magnitude of corruption, hatred of humanity behind this. The same thing happens in abusive relationships where the abuse is hidden. Friends and family etc. often believe the abuser as it's easier to not look at the "face of evil".
I did try to tell liberal friends that they didn't "believe" in mRNA technology but they believed in the marketing used to push it.
It’s interesting you bring up the spiritual strength though cause, lots of evangelical Christian churches bought into the propaganda just as bad and decided, especially with masking, that this was going to be how everyone must show love for their fellow Christian and neighbor. Lots of professing believers who you couldn’t tell apart from the mask shaming Karens at Costco. My sisters neighbor/friend has gone in so hard on the, masking and getting vaccines is how you show Christ’s love rhetoric, they barely speak anymore.
I had a friend who after being vaccinated had covid and was lamenting that the gym didn’t ask for a vaccine card because people were getting sick. 🤦🏼♀️Please make it make sense. I blew up and asked what was the point of asking for a card if anyone can get and transmit the virus. I’m struggling with what to make of people like this. They don’t seem stupid in all other areas and the person was trained as a dentist. Maybe they are under impression that the transmission is reduced but how can it be when the viral load is the same and now the efficacy is negative. That was a few months ago that we talked about it. I just hope with each passing day more and more people join Team Reality.
As another Seattlite, thinking outside the established groupthink is something of a lost cause here and woe betide anyone who dares venture outside of this. It is a monoculture, yet with the god of diversity at their helm, there's minimal diversity of views tolerated.
I agree with you Katherine, this was only possible because so many “regular” people helped make it so. Now, many didn’t really know and feared for their health and their family’s health in the beginning. But after the first few months to a year or so, if you weren’t starting to suspect things weren’t what they seemed, and continued pushing for all of the measures, you were part of the problem.
Yep. Most of my anger is directed at the public who helped this plan move in the direction that THEY wanted. I kept saying if people would just stop going along we could have ended it before it became completely out of hand. WE could have stopped this.
‘But the problem is that their foolishness made all the evil that ensued possible. And it is still going on apace; the wicked ones are still destroying good Doctors, torturing children, and breaking the world's production and supply chains.’
Yes to all this. If more people had stood up for the rights of others, the pain and damage would have been much less, especially those in authority, be it governmental or religious. So no, I will not give them a break over their culpability. They resemble all the ‘nice’ Germans who watched the Nazis try to destroy the ‘undesirables.’
I sort people into four categories here. There are those who fought it, those who dodged it, those who were tricked, and those responsible. I include in the last group anyone who may not have been in a position to impose mandates on others but whose behavior clearly indicates that they would’ve if they had. Each of these groups deserves different treatment, but I will say that my full trust and confidence will only ever be shown to those in the first group. While I may tolerate those in the middle groups, I will never respect them, regardless of the circumstances surrounding their choices. And I will go to my grave shunning those from the last group and advocating that every one of them be brought to justice.
Nice analysis! I tend to break it 3 ways, the mass hypnotized, those going along but knowing something is wrong, and those who saw through the lie from the start.
And then there are the "perps."
But we do have those who avoided it, but did not fight it, also, as you described, so really 5 all told.
Each must be dealt with differently and while I am very sorry for the coerced, I am not all all for those doing the coercing!!
They are a problem, imo. But the sheep are also a genuine hurdle, no doubt!
It will never be easy to join Team Reality because it means understanding the magnitude of forces humanity is up against. But I agree we can make it easier. in the best interest of all.
This is the hard part, because as you state, the sheep by "... their foolishness made all the evil that ensued possible." But this is important, the sheep were not causative. The sheep were after the causative fact enablers. And by the way, the first great injection was that of fear and panic leading into an uncontrollable avalanche of hysteria. ... and where did that come from?
However, and no matter how stupid and foolish the sheep were, it is incontestable that the sheep were entrapped by and subject to the full coercive application of force by the Powers That Be. Entrapment specifically carries with it the idea that people who are entrapped are induced into doing what they otherwise would not do. In this sense, the sheep were victimized, harmed, injured by those in power who were in breach of trust owing to their multiple act of criminality. And that is where the greatest burden of harm lies, with the instigators and promoters.
The sheep will predictably become very angry once they realize the monstrosity of lies heaped upon them owing the existential extent of the injury done them. As Lawyer Childers says, these people are useful to us. We need them. A chance for a healthier society needs even sheep with eyes more wide open. As such, our ire and thirst for justice needs to send its quiver of arrows against the perpetrators from the very top on down to those in administrative positions responsible for planing, instigating and carrying out this great Evil in the name of Public Health Safety!
Absolutely there is and was an agenda, developed and implemented by the perpetrators. The sheep are both victims and downstream perps themselves, albeit unwittingly in most cases.
They can't hide behind "I was just following orders." They were the ones giving the orders. Some were in it for the money and some for the power. Either way they were complicit and should have to pay for their crimes.
I’m curious as to how many drugs out there today contain ivermectin and we just don’t realize it. There’s a topical gel treatment to be applied to the face for rosacea that’s called Soolantra. Goodrx shows the retail price for a 45 gram tube as being as high as $650. Guess what the active ingredient is… IVERMECTIN. If it’s such a dangerous drug why would they want you to even think of putting it on your face? And secondly, WHY is it so expensive when ivermectin is so cheap?? Ivermectin is inexpensive, effective and has a half life of 16 hrs so it doesn’t hang around in your body very long. Ridiculous that such a stink was made against its use. Criminal actually.
Ivermectin was isolated from a plant called worm wood or sweet Annie. The plant is available and is easy to grow. It's an attractive ground cover growing 6 to 12 inches high. The leaves are bitter.
In my small circle, there was only one doctor who would prescribe Ivermectin in 2021. I could not use my Medicare drug plan, WellCare, to fill the prescription. Using GoodRX at Walgreens, I had to pay $80 for 20 tables of 3 mg Ivermectin. On a retiree’s budget, that was an enormous expense. That one brave doctor, who prescribed Ivermectin, can no longer do this. He is in a clinical practice and the managing doctors ruled that Ivermectin can no longer be prescribed. That same clinical practice was also fervently against prescribing HCQ and to date, that rule still stands. Yet, that same clinical practice has opened a new URI clinic which solely and exclusively treats Upper Respiratory Infection (which I suspect is an outcome from damning shots and on-going boosters). A lot of folks claim they take HCQ and/or Ivermectin daily. Unfortunately my pocketbook does not allow for this protective luxury. Thank goodness we have been provided preventative protocol which continues to keep us safe, well and healthy. Knowledge is power!
Yes! We can never again reach a point where we’re not ‘allowed’ to, for example, be with loved ones in nursing homes, sick or dying in the hospital, etc. “Allowed”?! By whom? Next time (and there will be a next time), we must not submit to these ‘rules’.
Thank you. He wasn’t in great health but there is no way he should have died 😞 The very worst part of it was that he had to die alone and afraid. It breaks my heart 😢
Why indeed. They just won’t let go. Keep trying to not wear one. I say things like “no can do”, “I can’t do that; I need to breathe”, etc. Or just stay silent and not wear one; often no one says anything or pretends they don’t notice. We need to keep resisting and refusing to comply.
Does anyone even know who invented that rule and why? I think it was to kill our family members. It was AWFUL. Someone needs to write a book about this hospital horror show. It was such an evil time.
Oh my dear God, I read so many awful, heartbreaking comments on Jesse Kelly’s Twitter feed, I want to be sick. These pages of awful events done to people by others are full-on criminal...let there be a Nuremberg 2, please God!
Also the asking to forgive “each other” as if the fired, the dead ( how many dead through suppression of very very effective prophylactic treatments) the vaccine injured, the many that lost their businesses, etc, are to be forgiven! Forgiven for what? This request is extremely offensive.
It is like asking a rape victim and a rapist to apologize to each other!
Yes! That's the part that got to me the most. Forgive "EACH OTHER???" *I* didn't cause anyone to lose their jobs, I didn't advocate that any particular group be barred from medical treatment, I didn't uninvite people from birthday parties, family reunions, Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc, based on vaccination status. I didn't unfriend and ridicule people for discussing alternative covid treatments. I did not close down schools for years and set back social and academic progress in kids by even more years. I did not teach children to fear their fellow human or force folks to rebreathe their own carbon dioxide and suppress their immunity. ***I*** have exactly zero to apologize for. The nerve! I am actually willing to forgive, as Jesus wants us to do, but I do NOT NEED forgiveness (on this front, anyway), nor do I think that "forgiveness" means that justice should not also be served to the higher ups!
NOT TO MENTION. . . but I will, those dead due to delayed medical care "because Covid"? Surgeries, cancer treatment, transplants, etc? OR the psyches and families destroyed by the extra domestic violence, suicide, alcoholism, depression, etc etc.
Planned. Quite possibly. There is an interesting interview with Peter Daczak about 2 years before the virus talking about this virus. Hmmm. And several weird prescient interviews with Bill Gates also years before the virus talking about a viral pandemic. Hmmm.
I agree Naomi, so emphatically, if type size was available this reply would be in 72 POINT SIZE TYPE SCALE! To quote, “If I’m right, Oster’s initial instinct was to protect her family from powerful, unaccountable authority by cooperating” My God!!! It was EXACTLY European citizens submitting to the NAZI REGIME, turning in listed dissident neighbors and Jews and any undesirable selected for the “final solution” that resulted in one of the most UNFORGIVABLE heinous atrocities of crimes against humanity and genocide in history, BY THE SAME MANIACAL genealogical depopulation eugenics monsters like Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab!
Simply applying and knowing history SHOULD have been a bellwether indicator for every edict and mandate “this does not make rational sense”.... adding the most obvious, never in medical history has a healthy population EVER been forced to quarantine, forced to test, forced to mask, forced to distance, forced to shut down businesses, forced to abuse infants and children with irrefutable insane measures... oh right, there was a time in history... WW2 NAZI GERMANY!
Within the first month of the "two weeks to slow the spread" I had made several yellow stars out of cardboard, and carried them around with me. I used them to talk to folks about this. I re-read Herman Wouk's "Winds of War" series until it was shredded, read Wiesel's "Night", also "Man's Search for Meaning", all to try to understand the madness all around me. ALL of my friends complied to some extent. Some excoriated me and unfriended me.
YES, these past two years DEFINITELY have exact parallels to Nazi Germany. We can never forget.
🗨 It’s been more than seventy-five years since the Nazis were defeated and Auschwitz was liberated.[...] How were millions of people systematically exterminated in an advanced Western nation—a constitutional republic? How did such respectable and intelligent citizens become complicit in the murder of their countrymen? These are the questions Milton Mayer sought to answer in his book They Thought They Were Free.
What is needed is "never again" imprinted in hearts of decent but utterly misguided folks. Justice while necessary needs to be carefully wielded or things could get even worse.
The local university by me, an engineering school one of the best in the country is insisting on jabbing students and any local resident who uses their facilities, like tennis courts. Unforgivable in the present; that's where we are at as just another example.
I just read an op-ed by an anonymous Wellesley College student who says that boosters are required for students there by Dec 1. She says many oppose this but all are afraid to speak up. And Wellesley is not the only school doing this. A year ago this was still horrible and nonsensical but not as surprising. Nowadays it's simply unforgivable and unquestionably unethicial and anti-science.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 couldn’t have said it better myself! I want people put in prison for what they did. As for my own community, I feel bad for how they were misled but an apology from them would go a long way.
NO amnesty for anyone who knowingly caused harms, or shunned the opinions of medical professionals and people of science who, for the greater good, attempted to offer advice and suggestions geared towards a response to the "pandemic", as well as treatment methods for those who fell ill.
Those swayed by the psyops? SHAKE THE SAND out of your hair and get the mask down OFF YOUR EYES.
I'm not in a forgiving mood. Forgiveness must be granted from the person who was harmed. Those who were forced out of their jobs, those who were vilified and condemned, those driven from the public square by the Twitter mob, those who are going to be suffering for the rest of their lives with myocarditis and neurological problems. those who have died are the ONLY ones who should forgive.
It’s been devastating. Additionally, we find funds flow from WEF, Collins to A few High powered evangelical churches as well as main line with the guilt:
Paid to pass the kill shot while incorporating it as a message of true love. Paid off and the division sewn sadly.
It's not over yet. It takes about one year from policies put in motion to hit home. Next year is going to be horrific. It'll make the last 2 look like kindergarten play time. Stock up on canned food, dried beans, shelf stable foods.
We could start with inflation. They say it is currently at 8.2% but we all know, at least those of us who go grocery shopping, and pay for stuff, that is is higher than that. It'll go higher still because the Fed has to tighten interest rates, and the fuel shortages are going to become far, far worse. Add to that this administration can't stop spending.
Currently I heard it estimated we have less than 20 days of diesel fuel on hand. Everything important runs on diesel. No trucks, trains, no agriculture machinery, no home heating fuel. What will be available will be vastly more expensive because it's all supply and demand. This administration can deny rational economics but the old tried and true is still true and will bite them in the rear. Biden has also dangerously depleted our fuel reserves, including diesel, as well as our military hardware.
The shortage of fuel, and the raise in rates will slow down the economy causing layoffs and smaller businesses will go out of business. All businesses will look to slim down to cut their overhead. The days of frivolous HR policies may be coming to an end out of necessity. A company can't maintain a load of incompetent, useless employees in lean times.
Michael Yon is predicting worldwide food shortages and famines. I hate to go that far for the US but if trucks which supply everything from gasoline to the gas stations and food to the stores are grounded due to a lack of diesel fuel or diesel fuel so expensive they can't afford to purchase it, the effect is the same. Empty shelves.
And, you think this administration which CAUSED the fuel shortages to start with has any idea how to address the problem. you are dreaming. Biden's solution is to put a windfall profits tax on oil companies. I was around as a very young adult when Jimmy Carter did this. It made the shortages worse. You get less of what you tax more.
People in the colder areas of the country will suffer the worst. Many will not be able to afford heating oil this winter. Another reason I am thankful I live in Florida. We get a couple of cold days during the winter but at least I can load up on clothing layers.
The bright spot for the Democrats and Biden is all this will happen after the Republicans retake the House and Senate. Biden will be able to blame them for all the misery he and his incompetent administration have created. The sycophant media will magnify this and incredibly stupid people will believe it.
That is not all. There is room for worse.
The good thing is that people will be elected to the House and Senate with solid common sense and real know how. People such as Blake Masters and Joe Kent. I am counting on them to be beacons of hope and sanity.
Decades worth of immunology regarding the mechanisms of respiratory infections, ineffective public health measures, the immune system's response, previous failed attempts to vaccinate, viable early treatments etc... were not only ignored but specifically suppressed by "experts" who cannot claim not to have known. The authoritarian measures in the name of "public health" ruined people's actual health, tore families apart, stripped people of their livelihoods and encouraged the worst behavior.
If that isn't enough, officials and PHE continue, to this day, to push boosters and shots, obfuscate data, ignore increasing all-cause mortality, ignore the sufferers of adverse events etc..
Everyone with an inkling of awareness recognizes the window for 'amnesty' has long since passed.
Unprecedented number of evils… there’s no doubt about that.
Ruining small businesses, careers, people losing their jobs if they weren’t vaccinated (even if they were working at the beginning of the pandemic for almost a year prior to the vaccine rollout) - just discriminating against people based on vaccine status, separating people from their churches and place of worship, destroying human contact and relationships, denying education to our most precious children… and the list goes on and on.
But here’s where I take issue… people new to this vaccine issue… need to realize… The CDC has known for DECADES… that vaccines harm people. And no one has done anything- EVER!!
The moms who have watched their children disappear before their eyes… after 9-11 vaccines given on one day, or after the MMR vaccine… have all been silenced and discredited… for two decades.
This is the SAME travesty.
The same corruption.
This is not new.
So the moms who have been advocating for decades that the pediatric vaccine schedule is NOT safe… were told they didn’t know what they were talking about. They were looney anti- vaxxers.
The entire vaccine program is a sham.
I was a teacher 25 years ago. I was the fully self contained special education teacher in a mega school… it was four elementary schools in one. I had the most involved special education kids in the whole building.
Guess how many kids I had on the autism spectrum.
ZERO.
NONE.
Not a single child.
You don’t have a genetic epidemic fall from the sky.
So when you are asking yourself WHY the CDC and FDA are not doing anything about the safety of these COVID vaccines… The answer is clearly because they’ve been harming children for decades with vaccines and getting away with it.
This vaccine issue is bigger than anyone realizes if you are only coming to this issue -over the last two years.
Autism is now 1 in 44 children in the U.S. and I’d venture to say it’s even higher- probably closer to 1 in every 25 boys.
Women are outpacing men in higher educational degrees… and all of this is rooted in the fact that they’ve destroyed two generations of boys already.
You are correct.
The entire vaccine program is a crime against humanity.
Now the question is
Has the whole world awoken to the scam… and can it be corrected?
Yes, you are 100% correct, an until they repeal the law that Regan signed, they will never be held responsible. We are better off, fighting the diseases with our immune system, than the pharmaceutical industry. The industry needs to be held responsible for their destruction.
"Both Oster and the lady in the tweet eventually came around and recognized that they were wrong."
Nope. Not correct. The people that treated unvaxxed that way are "ends justify the means" people. They will lie, cheat, steal, coerce, and some of them even murder those that disagree with them. They burned up the trust needed to believe they recognize they were wrong a long, long time ago.
They do NOT recognize they were wrong. They are lying to escape accountability.
NOBODY GETS A FREE PASS, NOT EVEN MY SISTER.
I may not advocate for putting everyone on trial, but s/he who does the crime must pay consequences.
If you tolerate this "ignorance of the law/truth" now, they will do it all again at the next crossroads.
I learned as a kid, "ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law." As a senior citizen, the same is true for abusing anyone, whether the transgression rises to the level of crime or not. Time for them to pay the price.
These are the real criminals! Jeff makes an important distinction between the criminals and those who just foolishly got caught up in the narrative. If you were a jerk to those around you in the pandemic, I could forgive if you are contrite like the Tweet example Jeff gave. But any public figures or authority figures that caused harm to people by commission or omission, accountability is demanded.
Absolutely right! I would have been on the street this year for refusing the DNA experiment...last second, God prepared a table before me in the presence of my enemies. I weep for those whome it has gone less favorably...and I'm saving vigorously for the next weaponization of public health against my family.
There must be full legal exposure of the truth and legal accountability right down to the local level. Legal...
I don't often disagree with you, Jeff, but I think I do today. The people around us (Austin, TX area) weren't afraid of the government. They weren't going along to get along. They were militantly following orders from their supremes. They refused to listen to any evidence, refused to do any actual research, and refused to allow others to disagree. They were ruthless in their demands that everyone shut up and do exactly what they were told to do. Our businesses were shut down. The unmasked were chased out of stores. They ran what can only be described as psy-op campaigns in our schools to frighten our children and they illegally forced them to wear masks. I agree that we will need the repentant to fix what happened, but I do not blindly give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe it's just me and I'm not there yet. Some might have been fooled but many were willfully ignorant and all too willing to deny their fellow citizens their rights.
I’m not there either. Willfully ignorant says it for me with people I know. I’m afraid I see no signs of “life” in any of them. Still willfully ignorant. To their graves.
Clue number 2471 was that they quickly recommended pregnant women get the vax. Even I (not a doctor) knew that was not very sciency. Having COVID does not provide sterilizing immunity, only the shot does? Where is that in the med texts? State medical boards removing specialty licenses for saying Ivermectin is a worthy treatment? C'MON MAN!!
People who were stupid and willfully ignorant lay people who bought that load of dung... doctors who repeated it to patients!
Regardless of why it happened, many people treated others as nothing more than disease-carrying vectors (like mosquitos or rats) due to their own fear. This is pretty ugly behavior any way you slice it.
I'll forgive anyone who genuinely asks for it as I know it's harmful for me to walk around with a chip on my shoulder. However, forgiveness doesn't mean amnesty, people who abused their authority should be punished (which they would agree with if they were genuinely repentant). In addition, though I may forgive others who acted vilely towards other people, that doesn't mean I'll forget it. When the chips were down these people treated others like dirt. Having done it once there is a good chance they will do it again and don't deserve trust unless they earn it back.
The phrase "forgive and forget" is thrown around all too often as if as part of forgiveness we are required to erase it from our memory banks. That's not how it works and it's frankly foolish to do so.
SO TRUE: "FORGIVENESS doesn't mean AMNESTY." Big difference! Forgiveness heals the aggrieved; amnesty harms justice, and allows the aggressor to escape without conversion.
I’ll never forgive my library where I was called literally a danger to them snd every one else for not wearing a mask once. They would not let me speak until I had clamped a tissue over my mouth and nose. It was humiliating and surreal.I felt assaulted. I had worked there with these people for over 10 years. I did threaten them with legal action later. I’m sure everyone was jabbed up by then also but I was still a threat. I just pop in now to pick up holds snd go out again while these ninnies are STILL wearing masks behind plexiglass fortifications. I will not forget. No respect for them.
Interesting that it’s a library thing. What is it with libraries now? I recently went to my city library and there was the plexiglass and masks thing. But the thing that really disgusted me was the bowl of buttons next to the help desk. A sign invited me to choose the one with “my” preferred pronouns. This makes me both angry and sad. What has happened to our country?
We need to picket the libraries and demand representational support. i.e 50% conservative topics. LGBT month? Oh, ok follow that with 'Abortion Takes A Life" month. It's our taxpayer money. We have to fight them and picketing is a good start.
Oh I would love to do that! I would do it in a heartbeat! If I had a couple other ladies for support I would do it. I can’t understand why there haven’t been people picketing at these events yet. Why are we so squishy?
I LOVE this idea. I am trying to figure out how to make this happen. Maybe start by proposing it to the local director (who I'm sure would recoil at the idea, but my tax dollars are supporting the library too!)?
Libraries used to be a "safe space" for me. If I was stressed, popping in and browsing through books was weirdly calming. That has been utterly destroyed for me.
I lost all my joy in libraries after that abuse. All of it. I don’t attend events nor even talk to a couple of the employees. It’s over but getting books. After my abuse I picked up my materials outside on a cart for 6 months. . Even during the winter. I refused to enter.
Same, Permie. I lived in our local library when my kids were younger - we could spend hours there. Then the whole COVID thing hit, masks slipped (or were applied) and now the trans agenda is in full gear. And I'm in a small, upstate NY town.
Agree. The way some people would scurry away when you approached on a sidewalk OUTSIDE was so creepy and dehumanizing 🤬
And I agree, the trust is gone with those who don’t truly understand or acknowledge the harm and vow to take action to prevent it from happening again. Words are not good enough.
I remember the time when a family saw me coming toward them on a trail and they immediately formed a small circle with their backs toward me. Strange, as though I were an alien, a threat of some kind. And this is how they are raising their children. I’ve no doubt that these same people would have no qualms about hauling us off to camps on the slightest pretext if they felt threatened.
Cross me once, shame on you. Cross me twice, shame on me. And yet, this scenario will be played out again, with the same bad actors clamoring to say how it’s “different” this time.
I don't see myself getting there either. I was shamed for my opinion. I was right all along and now I deserve some respect for my opinion. I need to hear some apologies or at least some acknowledgement that I was right. Let's talk about the elephant in the room.
I was told I should NOT be able to use ANY medical facilities if I got sick and should just die at home. These were friends I’ve known since I’m 14. 🤦♀️
That’s ok. I told them they were acting racist for telling everyone to stay at home (to work) but not letting black or brown people work because their jobs weren’t work from home jobs. [I really didn’t mean it. I wanted to get a rise out of them after they told me to die at home.]
I honestly don’t know if most of these people will ever get out of their covidcoma. 🤔
This, exactly. They were self-appointed mask enforcers.
I remember at a garden center getting confused while looking for kale & accidentally turning the "wrong" direction down an aisle, only to get screamed at by a couple coming the other way.
I also remember at the supermarket trying reassure a hysterical tourist, only to have her report me to a worker for being unmasked. The worker explained they weren't mandatory here. 2 weeks later, our cdc rep announced he was getting calls from visitors complaining, & if we didn't wear them they'd make them mandatory...which they did.
The saddest tweet I think I've ever read was the man coerced by his doctor & wife into getting jabbed. A few days later, he was in excruciating pain from multi-system organ failure. His final tweet of bitterness, being visited by groups of doctors talking about him as if he were a lab rat in an experiment, as he lay dying.
Austin is especially bad in this regard because Austinites form a mini-Silicon Valley. The rest of Texas was SLIGHTLY, but only slightly, less dictatorial, depending on location. For example, 100 feet west of the Tarrant/Dallas county line, I could go in almost any store unmasked, but thanks to the Dallas County Tin Pot Dictator, the gatekeepers (in Dallas County) wouldn't let me in without a muzzle (which usually got removed as soon as I was past them). I'm afraid said Tin Pot Dictator aka Clay Jenkins is going to be voted in again. My mistake was moving into Dallas County instead of staying in Tarrant (where I belong). Austin, for me, is a hostile foreign country.
It absolutely is a hostile foreign country down here. I'm here because of family and job situations. But I have become much more vocal over the last few years and I'm starting to see a lot of hidden conservatives coming out of the closet. They're still afraid and still outnumbered but they're here and are becoming braver.
I don’t even recognize the Austin I grew up and graduated high school in. Just the homelessness is outrageous and nothing like when I lived there. Mopac wasn’t a toll road is how long ago that was. It also ended on the south end at the entrance to the Travis Country neighborhood. My brothers are in Hayes County now but one works in Austin. Both sister-in-laws work for the same school and no matter how many times I tried to explain the numbers of vaxxed vs unvaxxed sick/hospitalized/deaths were intentionally misleading, even though Hayes County leans Republican, it was me who was labeled a conspiracy theorist. I don’t discuss Covid with my SILs anymore. Or even my best friend. It’s almost like a battlefield at times, except I’m the only one waiving the white flag because I’m done trying to help them see the truth. I know one of my brothers can see the truth because the first question he asked me upon learning of our cousin’s death was, “Was he vaccinated?”
My son was in Austin for an internship over the summer. I really enjoyed wearing my C&C shirts when going out. 🤓
Thankfully, he says when he graduates he will live outside Austin if hired by this company. It’s to liberal for him and he’s 20. Hopefully, many of his age are seeing “the light”.
Well, it's high time, and that's very good to know. I certainly intended no insult to you for living there; we can't always decide those things, especially if we've been somewhere a long time and it changes. I am happy to see that it is actually changing - for the better, however much that is. In the (translated) words of my very favorite musical group The HU, In Wolf Totem: be brave, and don't give up.
Omg... so spot on GH.... Austin.... Tin Pot Dictators and mask and distance bully gatekeepers.... plural.... everywhere, that was and is Austin and surrounding! At Salt Traders on I-35 Round Rock, venturing out for an anniversary celebration dinner, the overreaction overreach started literally at the door with the Gestapo Stasi hostess, YELLING at the four of us... “Pull your masks up over your nose!!!!” Admittedly, I uttered... “Bully oppression... nice touch” That resulted in an obvious target 🎯 on us that is inexcusable, and absolutely unforgivable! After over 30 minutes obviously with no waiter attending our table, while others around us seated after, we’re being served. Finally after requesting service a triple muzzled waitress came over ridiculously maintaining 6’ distance from the table! None of us could understand a word she uttered. We should have left, but the consensus was why ruin the occasion further, already past 8pm..... The ladies after dinner, prior to dessert walked unmasked to the restroom... o m g 🤯 we were literally screamed at inside the restroom by the hostess and an attendant, then arm ushered out the door.... and out of the restaurant! The Gestapo Stasi hostess said our husbands would be notified to leave after the bill is paid! By the time the men rejoined us on the restaurant front porch the police arrived!!!!! Kudos to the masked officers who pulled their masks and literally apologized, reassuring us “this is not law or violation in any way, sorry for the inconvenience, but once we are called to a situation, we have to respond.”
NO.... I WILL NOT FORGET OR FORGIVE, hope the biache was fired, and we will NEVER STEP FOOT IN ROUND ROCK’s SALT TRADERS RESTAURANT EVER AGAIN.... so Jeff, no, absolutely not... to forgive and forget is setting us up for all of this insanity to repeat, until we are exactly where they want us, “owning NOTHING to make them happy.”
Thank you for letting me know this. We're in Round Rock frequently so I'll be sure to avoid the Gestapo. We had a lot of stores in the Austin area treating us (and others) in a similar manner. Never forget.
G Harkness - out here in the boonies, we think of Austin as a wart on the backside of Texas. Sadly, all of the big cities are controlled by liberals…but Austin is over the top.
Agree. People were coerced in a variety of ways - whatever worked - everyone I know who got jabbed explained their reasons, such as: I needed to travel. I needed to keep my job. I needed to visit my elderly mom. I needed to attend a wedding. Etc. Never did they say they were afraid of the government. I think Jeff is off target on this one.
Well I guess in a way those things are being afraid of the government, because the government has the power to deny people the ability to travel, work etc through the mandates. However, I still agree that many people really enjoyed in some perverse way the power trip and social prestige they got from following the dictates and shaming those who disagreed.
This was beyond ignorance, beyond the lack of questioning, beyond the land of the sheep. This was a government-endorsed program that revealed Nazis among us. Sorry, not sorry; it's true.
We call some of them Karens but it is more than that. People showed how easily led they are and then how easily they can be converted into NKVD and yes, Nazis.
“Just kidding” will not do. It was a project in the works for years. When it hit…and 2 weeks shut in, I predicted it would be an interruption to election.
Our election output managed. Meanwhile, we are fossil fuel dept in others? We are going to starve? Money to Ukraine? Admit it, IF Trump were fairly re-elected.. we definitely would not be globally or economically in this space. Accountability.
When I read the event 201 planning guide (in my opinion, it wasn't a simulation it was a plan), I view what's taken place as more of a fact-finding mission, so the ultimate plan (globalism) can be achieved. Basically, unleash a set of plans to see what worked well and what didn't. A data collection exercise. Then they'll attempt to fix what didn't work well for the next time rinse and repeat until UN Agenda 2030 is achieved.
Compliance and the willingness for one human being to commit atrocities in mass has been proven many times in the past. It's not a question it's a fact.
As Yuri Bezmenov said in a Love Letter to America: "My dear friends, I think you are in big trouble"
I'd have to agree with him after seeing people I considered quite intelligent frothing with anger about anti-vaxxer's, not wearing a mask, hating Trump for no factual reason, etc. I have more questions than answers!
Willful ignorance is not at all unique to COVID ~ think election integrity, CRT, trans ideology, January 6, the war in Ukraine, etc. etc. Willful ignorance is part and parcel of the opposing mindset, promoted/encouraged in media of all genres and leaders on the left. Simplistically, any facts you present have already been debunked ~ end of story. And if you continue to try to engage, you are a conspiracy theorist, live in a bubble, and are being offensive. Overcoming the arrogance, emotionalism, and willful ignorance is totally up to the individual. I believe it can happen, but it will never happen until the faults cited are acknowledged. And the faults will never be acknowledged if there is an easy off ramp.
Some lessons can't be taught, they simply have to be learned through the school of hard knocks. I continue to try to engage and will be more than happy to forgive when their eyes and minds are open to the possibility that they might have been mislead...
Martha, you are exactly correct. Try to talk to a pro vax person about dangers, or masking, or the origins of the virus, they immediately discount your sources as fringe, kook, and they love the word "debunked". I have close family members who launch into laughter and ridicule. I don't expect any of them to change their tune and ask for amnesty. They still believe they are right.
Yes, in my experience and in my every day interactions, I encountered way too many willing foot soldiers for the narrative. These weren't people just trying to get by, they were committed fanatics with a new religion.
My mom talked to a 20-something during it all. He listened and respected her (she's a retired dr) but could not "believe" her because it meant all the institutions in the entire world were in on it and lying. That's a lot for a young person to wrap their head around. This operation was a "shock and awe" operation and it worked so well because it is easier to believe there are a few crazies yammering about things than to face that much of what you believed about reality is completely wrong--and in a deeply negative direction.
Definitely running into that with my own family. One family member will only believe "official" sources so I had trouble getting him to look at pretty much anything. Discouraging, but I completely understand why they feel that way!
PermieGeek - this is such a good point. The scope of what we’ve been up against is massive. For young people or anyone who hasn’t developed a skepticism gauge, it’s unbelievable. Not only are we telling them that the news and politicians are lying to them, but it’s doctors, teachers, community leaders…seemingly everyone! The gaslighting was so effectively done that it may well take a cataclysmic, life altering event in their lives to even begin the realization that they were lied to.
These are the Brown Shirts and the Witch Hunters and the Spanish Inquisition. The same evil of those times which flows through humanity is currently loose on our Earth again.
I actually had a reoccurring nightmare of my ex-best friend as a part of group of brown shirts pulling people out of their houses in my neighborhood. I always woke up before they got to my house. I called her upset and convinced her not to support vaccine passports, within a month she was supporting them.
I feel ya Jason. I too live in Austin and I essentially had to lie to my clients and to my own family about my vaccination status for over a year. I was protected by immunity from infection before the vaccine was available, but for some reason, everyone forgot medical science and thought literally everyone needed a jab.
I really didn’t feel like explaining what natural immunity was and why it meant I didn’t need the vaxx. they just couldn’t hear it.
since then I have been honest that I lied and most don’t care but a few family members and clients are very hurt that I lied, even tho I was RIGHT!
this has caused damage to my relationships even to this day...
I know Jesus wants me to forgive and I’m working on it...but I’m not there yet.
I can eventually forgive (not forget) non-medical people for being gullible & drinking the koolaid...maybe even the ones who were just plain disgusting to those of us who have a different opinion. However, forgiving my fellow healthcare professionals is a different story. If they want to take a chance with their own health, that’s their choice; but they KNOW how REAL science works, clearly never did their own research & some still pushed it on others & berated those who chose to decline the koolaid. There are many who STILL have a jab superiority complex this late in the game. I have 3 words for them: DO NO HARM!
Last year I had an office visit with my neurologist of 10 years. I told her that I had gotten Covid and got over it in a couple days. She then preceeded to tell me that I should still get the vaccine! For what purpose? I had natural immunity at that point and wouldn't have gotten it even if I didn't.
In my area of NY I think people were just really believing the media, their doctors and politicians. I found out years ago when people have no faith or relationship with His Son, they will find someone to worship. Entertainers, politicians, government regulatory agencies, Big Pharm, academia, so-called scientists or experts, doctors. And guess who was pushing the safe and effective clot shot? Democrats liberals are, studies shown, not of faith in God as evidenced by their life choices such as abortion and sex and drug extreme beliefs. They would be the ones to listen believe and trust those entertainers, Democrat politicians and their doctors etc. Many are dead now or differing sad to say. They trusted the wrong people. People are fallen sinful creatures that’s why they need a Savior.
Don’t forget, many of them ENJOYED the power they were wielding to kick you out of those stores, to close your businesses and keep your kids terrified. That’s my true feeling about all this. People literally wanted to see us die, shunned from society and no freedom to move about our own country and state and cities. I can forgive people that TRULY believed this was right and didn’t force anything or treat people like shit. But i think that is a very small number of people. And for the rest, I DEMAND accountability and will fight for it til I die.
I can do that but I forget what I posted in past posts and like to read them with the response. Sometimes they show up, sometimes not even when I click back to thread. Oh well. But thanks
As a grandmother I am very concerned about her future. I pray a lot. I see the ultimate goal is depopulation and control by rich psychotic demonic eugenics such as Gates with WEF and Planned Parenthood etc. . The pro choice abortion movement is demonic as is the sexual revolution of the 60s but it’s not new. America and most nations have strayed from fear of the Lord. We took God out of our schools with prayer and 10 commandments removed when I was a little girl. Our nation plummeted after that. Schools became cesspools of immorality and evil now indoctrination centers into AntiChrist religions such as the LGBTQ agenda and CRT which are occults in my thinking. All one has to do is see their books and goals. The activists are after unrestrained sex even with children as proven now with transgenderism going after kids in schools with freak shows. Disgusting what BIden did with Title 9 the pervert! Most of the occult members hate God and family. They murder their unborn and are proud (Pride bring the deadly sin of Lucifer) . These people hate children and care not about the future of our country. Communists in 1963 vowed to infiltrate one or both of the US political parties. It’s obvious they have succeeded.
We really need to picket the DC jail where our guys are being tortured for the crime of trespassing.
And we need to picket the local hospitals and doctor offices and medical companies whose staff STILL push the jabs. Picketing in front of Disney here in Orlando brought the news cameras out and helped tamp their groomer efforts.
Wait for the NYTimes' 1619 Project to announce their discovery that today's white Americans are not closet slave-owners. That's equally as unlikely as Cheney freeing the J6 folks, or Fauci and Collins donating their billions to victims of the vaxx campaign.
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To the crazy woman who wants us to forgive and forget. I am a Christian and I know I am commanded to forgive, but this is not the right application for that commandment.
Forgive??? No, we need Nuremberg Trials again! This. is. not. over. The vaccines are still being pushed. The evil ones are reserving the right to lock us down again if they deem it necessary. This was/is a worldwide debacle.
Many thousands died due to the suppression of early treatment options.
People were literally held hostage in hospitals and given no treatment other than what Fauci dictated, Remdesivir and ventilators, which caused kidney failure and death. Hospitals were incentivized for following this treatment plan. Watch this video of two women telling how their husbands were killed in the hospital and then tell me we should forgive. One woman managed to get ivermectin given to her husband and he began to improve immediately. An evil doctor stopped the administration of the ivermectin and the man died! https://thehighwire.com/videos/remdesivir-nightmare-i-absolutely-blame-the-hospital-for-his-death/
Good doctors have had their medical licenses taken away. California just made it illegal for doctors to say anything about covid which disagrees with the approved narrative.
Many thousands of people were left injured by the shots, with no compensation and, oftentimes, only gaslighting from doctors. I know some of these people.
Many thousands were killed by the vaccines. The government's own website, VAERS, which was supposed to serve as a signal of problems, was ignored when 1000+ deaths were already reported early in 2021.
They are going to do this again and, sadly, there will be people who comply. Not me!
I don't think Mr. Childers is advocating for ignoring the sin and not taking those responsible to court. Hes a LAWYER. But to those who were allowing themselves to be used for the greater good who didnt do their due diligence and know it and apologize to friends and family, we must be forgiving. It wont make everything like it was. Our truat has to be rebuilt with them but it exposed character we had ignored or were ignorant of before. Perhaps theae relationships might be better because we will have more respect for being smartee than they thought we were. 🤷🏻♀️🙄 That would be true humility.
While I appreciate your prospective, I am tired of turning the other cheek. Every time I do it seems like I get slapped again. As a biological XX female and critical thinking being, I and many of us have been cancelled out of existence. “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take this any more!”
The trouble with people like Emily is that she is using her own lack of doing diligence as a reason to excuse her bad behavior. Like, she just didn’t know the koolaid had cyanide in it, but now she does, so can we just go back to making our mud pies. Or something.
I’ve done some things that, given what I know now, I would not have done. I don’t go around saying, “well, I just didn’t know.” Instead, I say, “wow, I wish I had listened to the people who trying to tell me x, that I had asked them some questions, instead of writing them off as kooks.” And I say, “I’m really sorry for what I did, I wish I had known differently. I would have done differently. Please forgive me.”
From my perspective, you are a rarity. I haven’t heard a single personal account of such an apology in my circle. My daughter was tortured by her in-laws through those times. Crickets. Just not a topic any longer.
My apology has nothing to do with the current craziness. I’m referring to other stuff. Although I hope that I would have the courage and moral character to be willing to admit wrong doing in this area as well.
And, in full disclosure, I have not actually been faced with having to actually say those things face to face, in a particular instance that is in my mind. So, I acknowledge that mentally envisioning the apology is easier than having to speak it out loud. And especially if I discovered that what I didn’t listen to or know ended up causing harm. So, just trying to remember my own human frailty too.
No RJ&RB, I don't think so either. In fact, I know not, because he laid out his plan for bringing them to justice in his substack last Friday. I thought Jeff's comments were well balanced and thoughtful. I was just venting to the woman who wrote the article, who will never see it, but I feel better anyway.
This!! We do not forgive evil. They treated us like scum and killed people we love. They are not repenting they are trying to sweep us under the rug. And those who complied are guilty too. Isn't there some parallel here to the mark of the beast- even if you can't buy or sell DO NOT SELL YOUR SOUL TO THE DEVIL.
Forgiveness must be followed by repentance and a life where the frgiven sins no more. Read Jesus' encounter with the Samaritan woman at the well.
Easy-peasy, name-it-claim-it Christianity conveniently overlooks our Lord's commands to repent and straighten up.
Grace is an undeserved, free gift. But if misused, the recipient may end up being told "Go away from Me, I never knew ye" upon arrival on the other side.
Faith without works is dead. We can't earn salvation, but if we have really been made a new creation by God, we will be steadily seeking to live a life that is pleasing to Him. We ministered to a drug addict who seemingly made a profession of faith. For awhile, he attended church, but his zeal began to flag. He had no desire to read the Bible. Finally, I asked him one day, "do you still want to follow Jesus?" He was indignant. "Why would you ask that?" he said. Well, look at your life . . .
I am pretty sure she was given the task of opening this can of worms to gage its reception. Sorry Emily. Tell your masters we will not forgive or forget till we have justice and it can't happen again.
And even then, I'll be super-slow to forgive, and definitely will never forget. There has been REAL damage done by these overlord transgressions, some of which will NEVER be remedied (deaths) and MAYBE but not for certain can be mitigated (lives destroyed by mental illness brought on by the combo of fear and isolation. I am not 100% certain that some of the drugs involved in the jab are neutral with regard to mental illness, and they may in fact have exacerbated the response.)
Yup--I might ACT like I've forgiven, but I will never forget. Most people I know are now forever in the "do not trust" bucket. Which sucks, and if I were like Emily I would wail about the trauma this is causing poor me, but I'm not, because there is something fundamentally and foundationally different between the two kinds (go-along-to-get-along vs refusers) of person. I don't know what that fundamental thing is or things are, but my eyes are opened and behind my friendliness is an unshakable skepticism, now. Call it the invigorating chill of clear-seeing.
I have a doctor visit (new doctor) tomorrow. I have to go to get her signature on a medical test I need. I can't WAIT until she starts in on the influenza and covid booster jabs. And I am one who used to always (and mistakenly) be first in line for a flu shot. Never again!)
Same here but add that I no longer trust my doctor (and any facility I know of) to administer the requested medication via injection. They lied about it from the beginning, why should I believe them now?They have become such tools of tyranny as to make them very, very dangerous. Killers even.
I know a lot of these people. The women are karens and the men are beta cucks. I don't live in fear. They choose to. So they should stay masked up and not leave their homes. Leave the world to the living.
Not sure. But Randi Weingarten, president of the teachers union, replied to her write up agreeing with her. Randi needs to be tried and removed from ever having contact with any school or child again. She and the union is one of the biggest causes of harm to children and their families. No forgiveness EVER for her and many teachers.
While the writer of the article may be sincere but very misguided, imho Weingarten is posturing to try and regain votes from Democrats and independents in the midterms.
It's absurd to the point of being funny. Like the knight in Monty Python's Holy Grail who gets his arms and legs lopped off in a sword fight and quips "alright we'll call it a draw!" No! that's not how it works!
I don't think she even defended herself really. She blamed her failure to see things clearly on her time spent countering disinformation and saving people from injecting themselves with bleach. Then the last thing she says in the article is that we need stronger gov't mandates on childhood vaccines and that people like her need to be a part of fixing these problems that her side caused.
Jon Stephenson-- The demonizing of the "bleach" scenario was the cabal trying to put the kibosh on "CDS"/ "MMS" (Chlorine Dioxide Solution / Miracle Mineral Solution). Chlorine dioxide has actually been a "suppressed cure" agent for a long time, years before the Covid Operation. Because it's cheap and effective for many things. It was popularized by Jim Humble, then more recently Andreas Kalcker. Kalcker's books on using CDS,, such as "FORBIDDEN HEALTH" were immediately banned by Amazon, but they still sell on ebay and etsy etc, And here's a video link from Kalcker's odysee channel that gives an intro on using CDS for Covid: https://odysee.com/@Kalcker:7/Coronavirus-sub-esp-1:b
It came from a vile, evil distortion of something President Trump said in those daily briefings set up by the snake, Mike Pence.
President Trump kept trying to steer the thinking towards use of other approaches beyond what the SCIENCE was pushing. He mentioned some innovative techniques that were being explored for killing inflammation in the body. One involved using light and one had something to do with the use of bleach in some way. He was saying, we need to look at everything, not just this little dictatorial mindset being pushed here. People needed to stop thinking of the virus as untreatable.
And out of that, the press developed the lie that Trump said people should inject themselves with bleach.
And vile Mike Pence, who had always considered Trump to be inferior, while dreaming of replacing him, just smirked along with the rest.
No it wasn't. It was the equivalent of claiming Sarah Palin said "I can see Russia from my house", which she never said. Here is a politifact article where they have his full quote from an April 2020 coronavirus update press conference.
He never used the word bleach. He was talking about using disinfectant on surfaces which kills the virus and in the next sentence says they need to look into ways they can do something similar with the lungs. Who knows what he was thinking at the time. If I gave him the benefit of the doubt, I would think he was hoping there would be some sort of breathing treatment that would help, but we all know from Dr McCullough that an effective treatment was in fact gargling and nasal rinse with iodine which is a disinfectant.
How much could this virus been countered if public health officials had told people to gargle with listerine instead of washing their hands and advised even saline nasal rinse? We'll never know.
UV light therapy was the disinfectant for the body he was referring to. This therapy is being used in cancer treatments and because some of their tests showed sunlight was effective in killing the virus, Trump suggested using the therapy as a disinfectant for the body. The media twisted “disinfectant” to mean “bleach” and the lie was born.
And then you had “horse dewormer” repeated ad infinitum on TV channels. How hysterical! “Horse dewormer!” How much time would it take on Google to find out a Nobel prize was awarded to the scientists who discovered this medication which was then distributed to millions.
Great comment--and it's these 'little' suppressions that veer suspicion away from "oh, people were just ignorant and didn't know what to do; they didn't MEAN to harm" to "yes, there was a deliberate plan, you can call it depopulation or you can call it 'merely a big pharma-big government money-and-power grab, but it was ON PURPOSE." All these effective early treatments being suppressed/contorted/lied about? That was criminal and intentional.
There is a great part in Joe Rogan's interview w/ Dr. Peter McCullough where he talks about how this idea originated from legit virus-killing treatments; the whole interview is worth a watch/listen, it's brilliant.
Died suddenly: a friend’s relative died suddenly and unexpectedly getting an MRI. Probably vaxxed. Not sick as in an emergency but obviously they were investigation some health complaint. It made me wonder...you have to be so careful about metal in your body when having an MRI. Could there be anything about the make up of the nanoparticles in the vaccine that could cause death by MRI?
The contrast used for MRIs is an extremely toxic element, gadolinium. If it remains in body for any reason, more likely if you are acidic, it can cause problems for rest of your life. Due to fact gadolinium poisoning destroyed my health, I belong to a support group for sufferers. One can get an MRI without contrast which is what the group suggests. People still have issues after MRIs which are believed to be due to redistribution of the highly para-magnetic gadolinium in the body. If your friend had magnetic particles in body due to something in the vax, an MRI could redistribute it in the body. I wouldn't have thought it could kill someone instantly but if a clot had formed around some magnetic element in a vax and then moved to a deadly place, maybe?
Interesting that any gadolinium from my past mris might be redistributed though. Thank you for sharing and I’m very sorry about your gadolinium injury.
There's no way.... MRIs are super common (I'm really healthy and even i've had several through the years on various injuries) and this would be a constant complaint. There's no way every vaxxed person dying in an MRI would be a correlation that went unnoticed. I mean, I'm pretty sure....
I wouldn't rule anything out at this point. :-) It does seem highly unlikely though, right?? Let's at least go with highly unlikely. As in, the COVID vaccine has caused about a million health problems at this point but as of yet has not instantly killed via MRI machines.
I assumed that it was to demonize ANY and ALL preventative treatments, much like the horse de-wormer trope. Also helped reinforce the OrangeManBad TDS theme.
You have got to be kidding me!!! Makes me want to SCREAM in her face and shove the Turtles All the Way Down book at her in regards to that last statement. Oh my gosh!!!
Yep. Nazi Germany again. Never thought I would see this in my lifetime. History does tend to repeat itself but hitler has not been dead very long. Short memories for the jews who seem to be in favor of demonic dem party.
A request for amnesty should be preceded by an abject, sincere, specific apology. I haven’t seen that so I’m withholding amnesty and forgiveness. And I’ll never forget what the Covid devotees have done.
Deb, you are spot on. Forgiveness is given to someone who asks for it, someone who apologizes.
I agree there are many people who went along because they were afraid of the government. However, I think the vast majority went along because back then they trusted the government (CDC, FDA, etc). Now we know better. Now we know these agencies are not trustworthy. And if we can't trust them, then what good are they. We can replace the CDC with an open system database that aggregates medical research and save billions of dollars every year.
It is time to start defunding the federal government in massive meaningful ways.
Two friends of my neighbor died in the same way. In the video I linked below, two widows share their stories. The second woman's story is particularly egregious. She actually managed to find a doctor who would administer ivermectin to her husband in the hospital. He began to make an amazing recovery, but then another doctor came in and ordered the ivermectin treatment to stop! The poor wife sought help from the court, but was unsuccessful and her husband died. https://thehighwire.com/videos/remdesivir-nightmare-i-absolutely-blame-the-hospital-for-his-death/
I saw that video, it was very upsetting. The doctor who ordered that the ivermectin treatment be stopped despite observing with her own eyes that the man was better after being on it should be charged with deliberate homicide.
Being a transplant recipient my doctor insists I get yet another booster. I told him to go jump in the lake. And hope he can't swim :). I truly think he is not informed but just going along with uninformed sources and those sources are medical.
I would say to doctors that are just following the CDC or AMA or whatever, what do I need you for if you are just following their guidance and not individualizing care to my needs?? I can read those organizations’ guidance on their website, I don’t need a go between of a doctor for that!
Somewhere on here I posted a message I wrote to my former physician practice in response to their message urging me to come in for a wellness check. I basically told them I was reluctant to see any doctor who was complicit in giving covid vaccines. I listed the many harms done by healthcare providers both in and out of the hospital. I asked if the hospital system the practice is affiliated with has accepted reality yet. I got a response today; a link to their covid info. I found this jewel in the FAQ section.
"The Pfizer vaccine and the Moderna vaccine use mRNA to instruct the cells in your body to make a harmless piece of the “spike protein” found on the surface of COVID-19. Your immune system is tricked into thinking this is a virus and makes antibodies. A live virus is not included in the vaccine. Your body destroys the mRNA and gets rid of it. It doesn’t stay in your body or alter any DNA. The other ingredients in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are salt, sugar, and fat."
I 100% agree. At the end of her article, you can see her reason for calling for amnesty. She wants to be part of the team who is going to clean up the mess they made. She calls for stronger gov't mandates on childhood vaccines, and I can only assume she like others will be advocating for an army of mental health counselors to collect data and analyze our children like lab mice.
you nailed it. we need to understand the oster article for what it is. the atlantic is targeted to young bluecheck moms. this is a finely crafted message to that very specific demographic to let themselves off the hook and transfer their hostility to the millions of parents who are taking their children off the cdc vaccine schedule.
the article was probably paid for, and maybe written, by the dhs truth ministry. it has nothing to do with us except to encourage the people who demonized us for the past 31 months to continue to do so.
btw the woman who owns the atlantic is big pals with ghislaine maxwell
I think you nailed it. Another purpose of the article is to shift the narrative so as to cushion the backlash and alter the terms of conversation. What may be one of the desired effects is the "opportunity" to demonize all those who do not go along with the so called amnesty.
I cannot really answer that, but I will say that they should never be allowed in a position of influence again, and in many cases deprived of their ill gotten gains which should then be put in a compensation fund. What's the point of committing a crime, being found guilty and suffering little to no consequences?! Can you imagine Fauci and Birx et.al. repairing to their mansions, pensions and kickbacks intact breathing a sigh of relief having dodged a bullet?
Like the whole mass formation theory...no longer are they able to point to covid as the source for anxiety...now they can point to those who desire justice from the debacle, and those who no longer trust the healthcare system, to be the culprit for their anxiety issues.
Abject, sincere, specific apology AND resignation of those that violated rights and took cash to conduct a vilification campaign of those who had another point of view about covid.
Imagine losing your job, then having your extended family turn on you, then your partner has a clot induced stroke, now your child has a 4 foot blood clot removed from her leg. These things are real, they have happened to real people. If they feel outrage and a desire for retribution can you really blame them....?
Add "reparations" "ammends" or "returning what you stole."
We need to be made whole, and as my 4 family businesses were functionally bankrupted and sold off to the "perps" and my only child, a daughter was forced/coerced into taking an experimental gene therapy which may disable, kill, sterilize, or gene modify her, and her children, I know I cannot be made whole in this lifetime.
Also there isn't one decent Doctor left alive and in practice it appears. Only shills for pHarma....
So no. It's not time for amnesty. It's time for JUSTICE.
From what I am able to ascertain, multiple crimes were committed. Multiple infractions upon citizens civil liberties occurred. Feelings aside these must be investigated and given the full process they are due. In my opinion, the above are not "mistakes" and the often used excuse 'we never could have known' is simply an attempts to avoid accountability. People are getting sick from the "treatments". People are dying suddenly and unexpectedly at unheard of rates. Children are succumbing to heart attacks and strokes. By all means heal the divisions wherever possible, but this is not and will never be a substitute for justice.
FedUpDeb... absolutely! And an abject, sincere apology, actually sincere soul depth reflection, the actions will speak much louder than mere words... an abject sincere apology would include the billions of fortunes from the pharmaceutical execs down to institutions and fund mangers and individual doctors who made money investing in the jabs voluntarily ADMITTING PUBLICLY the resulting damages and inexcusable deaths and injuries, voluntarily consigning all (blood) money to the victims and families of victims... INCLUDING... the damages for forced bankruptcies due to unnecessary business closures. THAT’S a true, abject, sincere apology....
I want more than that. Stop every single mandate, reinstate the fired, totally stop giving these toxic shots, compensate the vaccine injured, allow the good doctors to freely practice medicine, quit the propaganda, and just for the fun of it, impeach Biden.
I think my distaste for Oster is her saying the people who were right got lucky. That’s BS! We weren’t lucky. We dug for information, researched, and used common sense! There was no “luck” involved. I take great offense to someone who thinks she is superior to the rest of us, who classifies my rational, God given ability to discern right from wrong as getting lucky. Pppffftttt. She needs to take responsibility and stop hiding behind “we didn’t know”. No, you didn’t know because you didn’t want to know. You chose to not know! The rest of us chose to know. The rest of us took steps to find out. The rest of us used skills and critical thinking to choose correctly. The rest of us stood against enormous discrimination and loss of livelihoods, being treated horribly by family, friends, co-workers, grocery stores, doctors offices, etc etc etc to stand up because WE KNEW!
Exactly. I spent an enormous amount of time and energy researching everything I could get my hands on. I'm STILL researching and I'll probably have to for the rest of my life. Luck had absolutely nothing to do with it. Maybe someone can gaslight her by claiming she was given her educational degrees & awards through LUCK! Just like a lottery ticket winner!
You bring up a good point! All of the education and studying she did to earn her degrees or whatever she has attained…..she would be offended if we told her it was pure luck. 😂 🙄
Yup, that clown Scott Adams said the same a few months ago. They can’t admit to themselves they were duped because they failed to critically think and accepted the narrative at face value. “Only stupid gullible people do that, not us elites. “
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻YES!!! We knew! I was grateful that I own my own business, I deal with the public and I never stopped working. My daughter (special needs) works in a grocery store, I thank God for the Supreme Court ruling so she didn’t have to get jabbed. Feel God guided us to the information we needed, including this C&C platform. Jeff you kept me and my sister (also not vaxed) sane! Our daily read, along with other publications, saved us, we realized we weren’t alone.
Spot on! I think that was Jeff’s point as well. There’s a difference between what you just described and ones who just didn’t do the research or use critical thinking skills, who changed course at some point (even up to yesterday and including tomorrow and the next day) and see the truth and accept the truth. No amnesty. That’s like (and this is a poor example) drunk driving and killing someone and then standing on the street corner (rather than facing your crime in court) saying I’m sorry I bought a car. No. Let’s get specific. No blanket fake apology where you don’t really acknowledge specifics and hide behind your four year old sons misguided behavior 🙄. Take responsibility. These were egregious crimes against real people.
And we tried to tell THEM, but they wouldn't listen. I am still trying to educate people. I offered to lend Peter McCullough's book to a Bible teacher at my church, who stated in his class that vaccine injuries are rare. He declined to read it. His reason is that this has been so divisive and he doesn't want to get involved. He is vaccinated.
I saw that too. I can never get back the hours I spent researching this stuff. The hours I have spent telling my parents not to get the shots, getting yelled at by my brother to follow the science. Recently when he crowed about being all vaxxed up I told him he was an idiot. He didn’t know what to say. 🤣
So no, it’s not luck it’s using my brain and doing my homework. I am not brilliant but obviously I can research and learn. And arm myself with what will help me and my husband should The Covid hit. Or any virus actually.
Forgiveness, not much. Pitty is more like it, I pitty them their ignorance, fear and willingness to go along.
To the elites, I will never forgive or extend pitty, I hope they all go to jail. Koolaid Doctors, Big Pharma, Fauchi et all, can all go to hell.
Yes. Thank you for adding this to the conversation. I do understand not everybody understood what they were doing to us at the same time. We also need to extend grace to ones who it took longer to see and discern what was happening. Again, there was no “luck” in you seeing the truth of this. At some point you were willing to see the truth and accept it. You didn’t choose to blindly keep following, even if it took a little longer than some others. What Jeff said is true. We do need to welcome and celebrate anyone that sees and responds to the truth. That is excellent! Welcome! And I’m glad you survived. 😊
The research I mostly did was about who is behind this and why? I feel it involved looking into the abyss and knowing the evil humanity is capable of. Most of the rest was common sense. I researched at first to be able to provide information to others but quickly learned that wasn't going to work. Then spent time learning a lot about law as that seemed the best way to actually fight this (How I found C&C). I now believe this is a spiritual battle and understanding the nature of that and praying and asking how can I best do my part became more important to me than research.
When I prayed about taking vax (I already knew no but just asked anyway), I was overcome with such a sense of revulsion that I almost threw up. I know I will die before I would take it.
Yes. What about Dr McCullough? I hope he gets his revenge.My physician husband says medicine has become one of the most corrupt entities on the planet. Follow the money reigns suppreme. Sadly
Who knew that a full blown fascist and deadly agenda would come to us through the medical system. We've been taught to look for a single charismatic leader who people blindly follow rather than
Except she is not capable of that. At least not yet. Maybe someday? Based on her call for amnesty she doesn’t really want to accept responsibility specifically for her part/their part. Amnesty is a very general act. We can and need to forgive. That’s biblical. That’s what Jesus did for us before we even thought to ask for it. While we were still sinners Christ died for us. However, there is also a law of sowing and reaping we all have to contend with in the natural. There are consequences in the natural when we commit offenses against others. There is a reckoning that needs to happen. It doesn’t happen with a general blanket admission that it wasn’t really their fault because they didn’t get “lucky” like others. I can forgive someone who doesn’t ask for that, but I don’t have to resolve that they get a pass either.
If these people are “victims”, They are willing victims. I had the balls to stand up against my family and many of my friends and most of society. It wasn’t easy or fun. They were either cowards or stupid. Sorry to sound so harsh, but I am sick of all this. Our business was down 50% and still has not Recovered completely. So screw Emily and her Ilk.
I agree 100%. Almost all of us who refused to give in had to do so in the face of extreme criticism and often at great cost. The evidence that masks wouldn't work was there for anyone who looked for it. The evidence that the vac hadn't been tested was in plain view. People chose to not look.
Agree. Where is the 'sincere and abject apology' from the university I quit teaching at bc I would not mask, vax, or test? I was in no financial position to try it 'my way' and get fired and then sue; I had to move on. I am the only one in my department who found the mandates absurd/scientifically unsound/harmful. Everyone else just turned into a zombie, stupidly shrugging all "well, we are in a pandemic after all, who are you to question any of the reactions to it?"
If these people were truly sorry, you would be compensated for what they did to you. I don't see any help forthcoming for you or the vaccine injured, those whose businesses were crushed, doctors whose medical licenses have been taken, those whose loved ones were killed in hospitals or by the vaccines, etc.
Oh yeah, believe me, I'm not waiting around for any contrition/apology/etc. But the whole thing of Emily's "oh, we were so unkind to each other" without being able to state the concrete nature of those unkindnesses, as you have named some above? As if it was all just a matter of being 'uncivil' and 'bad-mannered' and--oh, the libs hate this one--'emotional and even therefore irrational'? Just gross. Squishy liberal grossness. (I know, it's not just libs, it's not a left right thing, but right now the libs do it best, flexing the emotional maturity of a 2-year-old.)
God help me, but I have no pity for Chef Julie who smugly cheered for the deaths of the unvaxxed filth. She was so consumed with hatred that she felt comfortable expressing her absolute contempt for fellow human beings. I don't wish people like her or Howard Stern, Keith Olbermann, and Jimmy Kimmel harm, but absolutely no tears will be shed for them should they succumb to a vaxxident.
Let’s keep it simple, you ainti-vaxxers: You have a right to kill yourself, whether with booze, cigarettes, chew, or high living. You do not have the right to kill others by spreading a virus. That’s not freedom, it’s selfishness.
I forgot that. A ‘friend’ posted a meme of a fat lazy, wife beater T shirt wearing, beer drinking MAGA slob. The wording ‘I’m not going to inject that poison into my body’ 🤣🤣🤣 the ‘friend’ truly believed that. She also thinks we’ll go back to the 50’s if we vote in a republican. 🤣 You know, its all about abortion... the irony.
And weird in the political commercials right now. Young mothers with children are pro abortion, and talk about the importance of family. A disconnect much? 🤷♀️
oh my gosh, I know.......!?!? I had no idea until Jeff's post, that that food writer who died, outrightly wanted covid-injection-free DEAD. What a ghoul !!! I wonder if her upbringing was full of dark things....
Rabbitgurl, this is precisely what Vera Sharav, who survived the Holocaust, has been warning about. Once people are hypnotized into believing that some group is "unclean," it is easy to wish them dead, or even to kill them. I've seen numerous hateful wishes for people like myself to die. The perpetrators of this plandemic are trying to divide people and make them think the unvaccinated, who did not comply, are a danger to society.
I had watched one of Jordan Peterson's college lectures a few years back. In it, he showed a clip of early Nazi propaganda against Jews. It was about public health and that Jews because they lived in ghettos were dirty and more likely to spread disease. It wasn't sophisticated by today's standards but kept panning between pictures of orthodox Jews and roaches crawling up the wall. Dr Peterson explained to the class that the Nazis were intentionally triggering people disgust reflex and then associating it to Jews.
This past three years has been a master learning experience in human behavior. Before this, I just didn't understand how truly vicious and horrible so many people could be. I've also seen how deeply good some people can be. Covid has really shown a clear divide between the good and the bad in the human race. Dennis Prager often says "Humanity sucks, but there are a few good people." He is correct in this.
We have to watch out for the convenient interchangeability of illnesses. When they say Flu, I ask myself just how they are coming to that determination exactly. Is Flu a convenient cover for something else? After all of the fudged definitions, tests, diagnoses, we know very well that a cover story does not necessarily mean what it purports to mean.
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Yes! When the flu totally disappears for a year, and magically comes back, there's obvious shenanigans. It's like the 'long covid' scam as a cover for vaxxx injuries.
This seems to be the next great narrative. Long COVID is the new safe and effective. Berenson tweeted an excellent concise refutation of this today. Australia, , which really didn’t have any COVID until this year, is seeing the same excess mortality as other highly vaxxed places. Personally, I’d love to see the excess mortality stats in the low vaxxed African countries, just like COVID deaths, I bet it is very low.
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Great job on this Jeff. The part that has been hardest for me is the assumption by the "other side" that I was stupid in making choices counter to the prevailing opinion. My decision was based on experience and education but the information was readily available. And skepticism had to necessarily overtake fear.
I keep remembering how in January or February 2020 my then 24yo daughter asked me what I thought of this virus thing and I replied, “There’s something fishy about it.” Fast forward a few months and years…boy howdy, was there ever.
I was taught to never trust anything coming out of China. So, although our family was concerned a bit at first, although more for our elderly parents than ourselves, and we were relieved to be pandemic homeschooling (that’s another story due to school incompetence and not the virus), we were not surprised as we started hearing some of our “alternative” health people talking about the real nature of the virus and its risks. We actually were naive enough initially to imagine that now, at last, public health would start paying attention to and talking about vitamin D and insulin resistance. 🤣🤣🤣
Absolutely! Anyone who passed sixth grade science could tell you that a cloth mask would not prevent tiny particles of "covid" from leaving your mouth. I mean, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that out. It wasn't luck. It was common sense and a passing look at history. Power given is not easily relinquished.
Sixth grade when? RIGHT!!!!! I contacted my college bio Prof and asked him what he thought of it. He said he was "not a virologist". I had alot of respect for him until that moment, well not true, he believes in evolution. Ding ding ding ding....red bell alarms! I thought im just an art major and passed eighth grade science i KNEW it was all FISHY! MASKING for VIRUS full stop! 🤣 They cant even stop an invasion of birds, fish, beetles, mussels, ....
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I agree with what you are sharing. I never spent so much time on anything else as I did on the jabs, mask studies, etc. Thank God I found Jeff, Dr. McCullough, et. al. early on. Yet I had brilliant family members who took the jab. I have wondered so very often what the difference was? While there probably where many reasons, I boil it down to trust in medicine and skepticism. From an early age I have disliked going to the doctor, taking medicine, and taking vaccines. My family members have always lined up for the flu vaccine, given the whole childhood set of jabs to their children, etc. They trusted the doctors - not government - and took the jabs. I pray for their health now and in the future.
I did buy the snake oil for a short time…as in, wore a mask to the store, etc. As a rule follower, I tend to be too trusting and not analytical enough. So I am also thankful I found voices of reason to steer me on to the right path.
I wore masks to the store at first and I knew better. I told myself I was doing it so the young adults working there wouldn't have to deal with me, but it was more an excuse for my cowardice.
My daughter was working in a convenience store at the time and was supposed to make people wear masks. They were building Trump's wall nearby and once the wall workers were staying in town, it changed. None of them wore masks and she and her coworkers had to let them. #Power in Numbers
Currently seeking treatment at Cleveland Clinic. Made it through long hallways and lobbies without one…until I got to the radiology desk where there was a mask nazi. Even a doctor came in the exam room and told me he was sure glad I wasn’t wearing a mask then he pulled his down!
I will confess that I followed those stupid arrows in the store aisles for awhile, but not because I thought it made any difference. Just trying to avoid being cursed out, I suppose.
Haha, we all have to choose which hill to die on. It all seems so stupid now. Putting on a mask to walk to the table in the restaurant, where it was then safe to take it off. Don't forget to put it back on if you have to go to the restroom!
All you need is common sense and critical thinking skills. It was so obvious that something wasn't right. We researched and learned. Make common sense common again!
Naomi Wolf has an excellent piece on her October 31st substack titled : A Lost Small Town, Running Errands in the Wake of Emotional Violence, USA. I highly recommend reading or listening to it. She accurately describes what so many of us have been feeling for the past 2 1/2 years.
Emily Oster and her fellow misguided covidiots would have had no problem seeing me and mine sent to quarantine camps because we didn't submit to this evil. My nieces were afraid it might come to the point they would try to take their children from them. I for one will not forgive or forget. At least not until they fully accept that they were this horrible. They were okay, regardless of the reason why, with the vilification of their fellow human beings. Total lack of empathy for another's views and body autonomy. They are mentally ill and need to address that. Yeah. Not falling for the kumbaya crap.
I'm needing to hear an apology from a "rabid medical professional" who argued that a mask could stop a virus. I.know that if you can smell through a piece of cloth, a virus can travel through it also. Only thing a mask can stop is bacteria from particles in spit. That's why they wear them in the operating room.
I finally found a local labcorp that doesn’t require masks - seriously could not get a blood test at others because I refused to mask.they are still arguing
It depends on that particular case. If it was weak and would have resulted in a decision that would allow masking to continue, then it is good they withheld. I had heard that the Justices sometimes wait for a case that specifically speaks to the point needed to be made via the Constitution.
Couple of points: 1. Emily Oster did not ask for forgiveness 2. She advocated for employers vax mandates 3. She advocated for students vax mandates 4. She advocated against religious exemptions to vax
I'm not inclined to grant amnesty to those people with the power to force these mRNA shots on others such as college students, police, fire, nurses and the military, etc. I am not inclined to grant amnesty on those people who fired Dr. Kheriaty. I am not inclined to grant amnesty to those people who have made a concerted effort to destroy Dr. McCullough, Dr. Ryan Cole, Dr. Malone, Dr. Simone Gold, and so many others.
These power mad authoritarians did real damage to far too many people to count depriving the non-compliant of their livelihoods and the many of the compliant of their health and their lives.
The CDC KNEW these "vaccines" were not "safe and effective" almost from the start and yet they pushed them on the public and are still pushing them on the public. It is a crime against humanity.
I have to agree, the higher ups, all knew. Nuremberg trials, are needed. This was a holocausts, not any difference than what the Nazi did. I do feel bad for the masses who bought the line, and thought they were helping their neighbors and friends. However, when my friends told me that, all I could do, was shake my head. "There is no evidence that the shot will be safe." They were to afraid to say no, from blackmail from other family members and friends. The sheep need to be forgiven, the "leaders" all need punishment. In my humble opinion.
I too have pity for the sheep in my former circles. But the problem is that their foolishness made all the evil that ensued possible. And it is still going on apace; the wicked ones are still destroying good Doctors, torturing children, and breaking the world's production and supply chains.
They are moving forward with pHarma running all "medicine" and destroying anyone who doesn't comply.
Fouci et al just got another 10 billion as did that nightmare in Ukraine.
We need to go for those pulling the strings, but we also need to shake their complying minions.
It's time to choose a side.
This is exactly correct. It's not over, they are still at it, and the sheep continue to enable it. Until these newly awake and all others stand up, it will continue. It is far from being over.
You are correct Mark. We live in our silos - many of us here live in the "Team Reality" silo. I would venture to say that most, and certainly many, either 1) have no idea the COVID official narrative in all its permutations was bunk, 2) don't care, or 3) are still living in that world, i.e., like my mother who puts on an N95 mask when visitors come in to her house, visitors who include her own children.
Tell your mother to take: Ivermectin and/or C, D3, Quercitin, NAC, etc. Sit in the sunshine as much as possible. Then make her favorite cocktail and tell her to chill and enjoy the life God blessed her with.
A mask is doing her more harm than ANY good.
I was at a doctor's office two days ago. Masks still required. In God's name, why?
I love your response. Wish you were my daughter:)
X-Files fan, Memento?
Nope. Follower of stoicism.
Yes. We are about to go over the cliff if we do not stop this. Listen to Dr. Mike Yeadon on "Tea Time" with CHD TV.
(Children's Health Defense)
Here's the link:-
https://rumble.com/v1qs3um-tea-time-episode-58-enormous-danger-un-agenda-2030-with-dr.-michael-yeadon.html
I'd suggest not to be missed as he covers pretty much all aspects of the problems we face.
Good points, Katherine. I would say, however, that it wasn't simply foolishness that made all this evil possible and, as a retired psychologist, I cannot agree with our esteemed host's assessment of what has become a delusional framework shared by many of those who make up what was once Christendom. What I would call group psychosis is really adherence to a religion that we know as secular humanism and it comes with a whole host of deviant beliefs and false idol worship.
I would guess that the vast majority of those who wore masks as a form of virtue signaling, pointed accusing fingers at those who committed the "heresy" of non-compliance with things like social distancing and a needle in every arm, most of those same people are entirely on board with child sacrifice, sexual deviancy, eugenics programs, and emotivism as the guiding light of sexual identity and a whole host of other monstrous notions.
No. These are not people who are going with the flow to avoid authoritarian sanctioning -- although, to be sure, this was clearly a salient factor, especially early on. These other folks, I would guess about 25 to 30% of us, are living in an alternative universe that is guided by a modernist repudiation of the inherited wisdom of over 2000 years, a world view that is directly opposed to the good news of the gospel and has chosen instead to be in the thrall of demonic psychological infections and, ultimately, the father of lies.
This is what mass formation psychosis is and why it always promotes lawlessness and death, perhaps the best recent example being what made the Nuremburg trials necessary. Being kind and forgiving is all well and good, but we ought not to make the mistake of thinking that the Devil does not exist and that he has nothing to do with the carnage that, not just Fauci and Pfizer et. al. have promoted, but which can be laid at the doorstep of those above them, most notably the globalist technocrats in the old European banking system that has run the west for 4 centuries.
yes, this is a very accurate comment I am afraid. While there are some who merely went along as it was the easier choice for them and their families, there are many others that are demonic followers of this religion and they must be dealt with. We will have to determine how to deal with the followers as well...find a kind way to show them how their actions have endangered us all for generations to come. By not standing up and doing the right thing instead of the popular thing, they enabled all of this carnage. I have thought about this a lot lately as I am still quite angry and I think I am not ready (and may never be ready) to forgive people who wanted to lock people in their homes, force vaccinations and even said parents who don't use this experimental shot on their children should have them taken away. I am just not sure I can forgive those people or ever want to be around them again.
Forgiveness of what or under what circumstances ... and what is entailed?
Christians are supposed to forgive the genuinely repentant. BUT forgiveness is not a skate free ticket, not a get out of jail card. Forgiveness never overturns the purpose of the Law which is Justice. Thus, a serial killer on death row may repent and obtain salvation, but he still has to face the consequences of his actions by judicial sentencing imposed. Equally so, those in positions of power must be prosecuted by the civil sword for their many criminal acts ... or else there is no Justice.
Some of the sheep who complied (informed consent or not) will suffer from the toxic injections themselves, and grievously suffer from what they may have forced upon their children. These will, many of them, be guilt ridden, angry at what has been forced upon them ... and generally suffer of consequence of their misguided actions to the end of their lives. We already here the refrain, 'Getting the shots was the worse decision I ever made' from quite a few folks. Those who are plain out nuts and persist are our natural enemy and must be resisted and overcome.
But I have to say, agree or not in every detail, Lawyer Childers words as to the sheep made a good deal of sense. And if we can, are able ... our best thing we can do is to lift people up and help them rid themselves of their enslavers.
Amen! I keep wondering what the globalist elites think this world is going to look like when they succeed in getting rid of all of us? But, I suspect that they haven’t looked at that element.
I wonder that too....I think they are so egotistical and stupid. How could you possibly think you could passively wipe out 2/3 of the population (as I've sometimes heard that number referenced) and everything will be ok? Only a godless lunatic could believe they have that kind of power and should even attempt such a stupid thing.
They are psychopaths with the maturity of children. Their hubris is off the charts. That’s why their continued existence is so dangerous. They actually believe that they can control the outcome of WWIII once a nuke is lit up in Ukraine. Having them alive and in positions of power threatens us all.
Once a nazi always a nazi — whose big vision is this again 🤔
Unfortunately they are too drunk on their own power to see anything beyond here and now and maybe just down the street.
Yes, I agree whole heartedly with you! The "Devil's greatest lie was convincing people he doesn't exist!"
I was one of those when younger, but confronting evil made me look a lot harder, and there "it/he/whatever" was.
I am agnostic, so I suppose I could be called a secular humanist, but I never fell for this sinister nonsense.
I don't believe the Devil exists, but I think these events have shown that radical evil exists and has real power.
Whether God (and the Devil) exist or not, most of the evil that occurs in the world is by the hands of Man, directly or indirectly. Whether such humans are in thrall to supernatural powers, I leave up to you.
Remember, "Christendom" burned the Cathars, most of the female healers in Europe, and murdered and raped and enslaved their way throughout the "New World."
And while I look to Jesus and his teachings as the core of my moral center, far too many "human beings" have committed far too much Evil in the name of Christ, God help us, and them.
He was right when He told the religious leaders of his time that Satan was their master.
We have the same problem today, in that those who "preach" at others their religion of "wokeness" which includes horrific treatment of children, and adults, believe themselves to be on morally superior grounds.
There is nothing new under the sun. Evil is abroad on Earth and I do long for simple Christian goodness--- loving the Creator, completely, and loving your neighbor as yourself.
Why is it that men, and women as well, have such a difficult time with this?
"Do unto others as you would have done unto you!"
It really is that simple; now if we could only succeed at that concept!
I don't know, Katherine, you seem like a thoughtful and knowledgeable person of faith, but I have to second most of what Dave says here. There's no question that the Church here on earth is peopled by sinners and that, as a result, it is not a stranger to corruption. This was perhaps especially true during the era that you reference with the Cathars, when politics and religion were more intermingled than they are today and, most importantly, what one believed was regarded as a matter of life and death, in an eternal sense. But there's a lot of modernist propaganda out there, especially about things like the inquisition and the Crusades which, when you look into good sources, turn out to be much less outrageous and more understandable when considered as features of a very different era in human development.
I cannot fathom what you refer to as the execution of "most of the female healers in Europe," incidentally. Again, this sounds like modernist propaganda. The church that Jesus started, the Catholic Church, was the originator of hospitals and orphanages staffed predominantly by women religious, and His mother has been revered as an undoer of knots and healer since the crucifixion. (If you're not familiar with them, you might want to explore the apparitions at Fatima and Lourdes, in particular, which are well verified and justify her reverence as a healer.)
Anyway, it's always important to check ourselves to make sure that our theology reflects what has come to us from on high rather than what originates within our own desires and perspectives. For example, your characterization of Jesus' teaching seems to ignore that, in addition to telling us to love one another, he called Peter Satan and said that he came "not to bring peace but a sword." Also, the religious leaders of his day were not Christians but heretics who had preached His coming for centuries but failed to recognize him when he arrived.
Most significantly, perhaps, your characterization of Christendom, aka western civilization, seems to ignore the fact that it was the Catholic Church that first denounced slavery, and it was in the Christian west that it was eradicated. This goes also for the predominant religion of most of the rest of the [pre-Christian world, human sacrifice. You correctly refer to the fact that, as the west has turned away from Christ, it has reverted to many pagan beliefs and rituals, child sacrifice being the most stark contemporary American example. And if you scan the historical landscape, you will see that it has been the atheists, e.g. the Nazis, Communists, French revolutionaries, etc. who have committed far and away the lion's share of murder, rape, and enslavement throughout human history.
I don't fault you for your views here. We are all traveling our own journey of faith, and I only began to get a clue in my early 60's, but I thought it might be helpful to pass on a bit of what I have learned, and I hope that I have done it in a kind and respectful way. In signing off, a wonderful little book comes to mind that I think might be as helpful to you as it was to me. It is a brief history of Cortes and the Aztecs by Warren Carroll called "Our Lady of Guadalupe and the Conquest of Darkness." I found it quite the eye-opener.
I think there is a huge body of history you are not taking into account.
My studies in U.S. and world history led me to asking many questions, and finally pulling original source documents, some written by those "Christians," more accurately Conquistadors, who came to the New World and engaged in the activities I described earlier.
Also the records of the "Church" in Europe in relation to the Inquisition and the Catholic/ Protestant wars.
Also the behavior of the "Church" and the Catholic reform schools and their treatment of the Native American children placed in their care.
What I am saying is that all consolidation of power by men, whether in government or official religious organizations do not behave as Jesus taught, and in fact quite often become conduits of very dark energies.
I agree with Paul when he said his war is not with flesh and blood but powers and principalities and darkness in high places.
Too often this has flowed through the churches of this world and that is not propaganda. I have read their own records.
But I do NOT argue that when a Christian, or a genuinely Christian church exists, they change, heal, and enlighten our world. I have spent a portion of my life studying various religious and ancient teachings, and when all is said and done I return to Jesus every time. He is the true Son of God because he taught Love above all else. And Forgiveness.
My frustration is that too few "Christians" actually practice what He taught.
As to Lourdes and Fatima, I and my husband have traveled to Lourdes in person. He had profound experiences there and I dearly love the entire area. God has blessed us in very many different ways and that location, it's revelations and it's water is one of those.
Fatima is fascinating and again a teaching and a prophecy we should heed, if we had wisdom. The same of the Madonna of Guadeloupe.
Man always wants his own way, and his ego makes him easy prey for very dark forces.
I started my conversation with a wish for simple, basic Christian values- to love one another, and to do unto others as you would have done unto you. I stand by that, and looking at our Nation I see only one or two, in positions of authority or influence who embody this concept, and those few are under relentless attack.
We must Stand Up with the forces of Goodness, Truth and Justice to support those who are working for a fair, free, and just world, or all that is good may die.
The so called "vaccines" are gene therapies, nano technology designed, it appears, to alter our DNA which is likely our physical antenna to the Holy Spirit, (in my personal opinion.)
Rudolph Steiner warned us that in the future belief in God, or the non-physical realm would be seen as insanity, and that a vaccine would separate us from our direct experience of our connection to God. I believe we are there. And I believe we are watching portions of the book of Revelations play out.
I wish Christianity was more available to many of lost sheep today, but I know the errors and histories of the past keep many away. For me that is a sorrow.
But there is no doubt that a genuine Christian, one who lives what Jesus taught, is the best "attractant" and hope for those lost in this world today.
Katherine ... When I began reading your comment, I momentarily wondered if I was not reading the New York Times or the Atlantic Monthly. Like the NYT, the cast of villains is cherry picked and packaged for the reader, but in a vacuum chamber devoid of any real historical context. I would also point out that the entirety seems by unstated presupposition to be more assumptional Marxianity than Christianity ... and the same tripe with regularity uttered from the pulpits of the Fallen Church every Sunday.
I am curious as to the loving thing, and the tincture thin thing of loving your neighbor. How is this done? And what about 'fear of the God is the beginning of wisdom? Where does this fit in? Or are we all just one big shining sea of loving mash potatoes without definition?
It is obvious that all institutions which seek power on Earth run amuck, including the church. Jesus said "build your treasure in Heaven, not on Earth, where thieves and rust destroy." He also said speak to God as you would your father, Abba, and that Love is the whole Law.
Those who preach the Old Testament seem to miss the fact that our Savior preached Peace. And Love, not Fear. He did condemn the religious leaders of His day and clearly called them out as children of Satan. The people He healed, fed, taught and comforted. He did not strike them with lashes, or scourge and condemn them. Or preach fear.
He said "pick up your bed and walk, your sins are forgiven." There is a huge difference in the way you approach those injured and trod on by the powerful and the wicked, and the way you approach those with the power, placing their boots on the necks of the vulnerable and the weak.
For the dark ones of this Earth, those who burn the innocent at the stake, rape, murder and pillage, and call it God's work, they belong to the Devil himself, regardless of whom they name as their "Leader." C. S. Lewis was pretty good on that teaching.
The same is true for those force injecting children, women and men with toxic experimental Nano Lipid Particle encased mRNA that reverse transcribes into our DNA, changing what God (or Nature) has created.
As Jesus said, "By their fruits Ye shall know them."
Yes, becoming a Christian does mean some healthy fear at your errors, mistakes and sins, when you accept that the Universe is just, or that "Karma works," or that "Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord, I will repay!" However you manage to come to that understanding it is a fundamental truth. But if you are a Christian you also know that all that is actually required for forgiveness is genuine repentance. And that like the prodigal son, you are still loved, completely, and can come "home" at any time.
"Christianity" has many sins on it's score card, just as every organization, and especially religious ones do where men wield too much power and their lust for more turns them into servants of the Devil instead of servants of God.
Has it repented? Turned, come home? Somehow, in most cases, I do not see it.
And trying to teach people to fear God is not the path my Teacher took. I look to the Prince of Peace, the One who told me to call God Abba, the One who said I will lighten your load, not place burdens on your back. The One who brought us the Law of Love.
So for me fear is not the path. For the unrepentant Sinners of this world, yes, it's a great starting location. But good luck getting them there; they are unrepentant, as almost always in history!
Get Fouci, and Biden, and Ralph Baric, Peter Dasik, Bill Gates, Nancy Pelosi, Gavin Newsom, Jeff Bezos, Zuckerberg, Kate Brown, Kalaus Schwab etc., etc., etc to Fear God's Wrath. That would be helpful!
For the average human stuck with dealing with the catastrophe these people have willfully created, fear is not going to help. They need Love, Healing and Comfort. And Divine intervention. I pray for mercy for all those who foolishly lined up and took these toxins daily. And I pray for Justice for all those who planned, executed and enforced this agenda while I work towards that end, daily as well. That is the path I'm on. And so far my Father appears to be pleased.
PS- if you still do not comprehend the whole loving your neighbor as yourself concept it goes something like this, "Do unto others as you would have done unto you." Or an older less evolved concept, but still useful, "Do not that to others which you do not wish to have done unto you."
Getting burned at the stake, regardless of "historical context," enslaved, raped, blown up, nuked, starved, frozen, GMOed, sterilized, experimented on, bankrupted, or force masked, smeared, attacked, deplatformed, etc. all fall into that category, as does defamation, slander, lies, doctors whose careers are destroyed by medical boards which are enthralled by pHarma, doctors forced to watch their patients die when hospitals take away even Vitamin C.... The list is endless, but any decent human being who's connection to God and the Holy Spirit is intact, even if they do not call it by those names, understands what I'm saying. I hope you do as well.
If you don't like it, don't dish it out to others. Simple, really. And what you would like your neighbor to do to you, do that to them. Again, simple. Only humans can make that flawlessly clear concept muddy and confusing, lol! Maybe one day our species will actually pay attention to Jesus's teachings. That will be when we will have come home, like the prodigal son.
Yes we certainly have been far to tolerant in many things. We have to say no to many more things. Like the transgender etc. So few in the general population, and then give them a voice far times greater than they numbers to show tolerance. Bad idea. It is not normal.
You speak well the Truth. World View is everything. And World View bu presupposition is the channel by which all culture is informed. And in all of this World View business, there is no such thing as cultural neutrality.
Humanistic Law is basically Satanic Law/de Sade Law. Do what you will. Humanistic Law, of course, wraps itself up in all manner of cloth of human concern. But what, for example, are Human Rights? Nothing more than Simon Says Rights and who is Simon? Nothing more than the god-state. And the god-state always demonstrates it 'higher interest' ... and higher than yours. Think Mandates, for example.
The civil rights of any Humanist administration are the counterfeit of unalienable rights as referenced in the American Independence Declaration. The first is of Man. The later is of God. And never the twain shall meet.
Amen!!!
Well said.
My friends here in Seattle still don’t think there was anything wrong with showing a vax card OR a negative test. It still makes perfect sense to them that the vax protects everyone and it’s only responsible that the unvaxed produce a test, because the unvaxed are more likely to transmit covid.🤦🏻♀️Yes!!! In late 2022 I have friends who STILL believe this.🤦🏻♀️Not one of my friends or former coworkers finds a need for amnesty. That’s what makes Oster’s supposition so odious.
Yes. Because at this point, amnesty means they get to sweep all of it under the rug.
Yes. I wrote about this here: https://shethinksliberty.substack.com/p/the-way-we-were
TeacherLori - this completely boils down to the fact that the majority were brainwashed into conflating wearing the mask and getting the vaccine with “doing your part for society”, and “loving your neighbor”. For most it had absolutely nothing to do with the science behind how PPE actually works or the years of data we already had complied on masks, because they refused to listen to Industrial Hygienists who are the actual PPE experts or believe any of those past studies. Masking 100% became “I wear my mask for you, you wear your mask for me.” Same with vaccines, it just became completely a “do your part” campaign and no one actually stopped to look at whether the actual shot was going to even help or hurt them. So, of course they would gladly wear their mask and show their vax card because to them it meant they were being a “good, kind person”. And those who did not, were “evil, mean, humanity haters.” How could they not love their neighbor?! So they ignore actual data even as the months go by and it starts to slap them in the face, like obvious negative vaccine efficacy and adverse effects. Even when the data starts to come from their beloved three letter bureaucratic organizations and leaders they pretend they don’t hear it because to them, those thoughts and beliefs have now forever been solidified as opposition and being unkind. They cannot get that initial propaganda out of their heads because they bought into it so hard. Twenty boosters later they’ll still be there, wearing their masks, saying it’s a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
The whole thing was Narcissistic bullying. The covert "The government is just trying to help you be a good citizen." BS. Gas lighting that the Doctors who got cancelled had "misinformation," which now CDC is saying was correct information. Dig sheeple, you were lied to by your government!! Will you still trust them?????
It's like "psychological immune priming or original psychological antigenic sin".
I agree. And this was done very purposely by those in power. First a "shock and awe" campaign at such a magnitude those without spiritual strength could not handle the magnitude of corruption, hatred of humanity behind this. The same thing happens in abusive relationships where the abuse is hidden. Friends and family etc. often believe the abuser as it's easier to not look at the "face of evil".
I did try to tell liberal friends that they didn't "believe" in mRNA technology but they believed in the marketing used to push it.
It’s interesting you bring up the spiritual strength though cause, lots of evangelical Christian churches bought into the propaganda just as bad and decided, especially with masking, that this was going to be how everyone must show love for their fellow Christian and neighbor. Lots of professing believers who you couldn’t tell apart from the mask shaming Karens at Costco. My sisters neighbor/friend has gone in so hard on the, masking and getting vaccines is how you show Christ’s love rhetoric, they barely speak anymore.
I had a friend who after being vaccinated had covid and was lamenting that the gym didn’t ask for a vaccine card because people were getting sick. 🤦🏼♀️Please make it make sense. I blew up and asked what was the point of asking for a card if anyone can get and transmit the virus. I’m struggling with what to make of people like this. They don’t seem stupid in all other areas and the person was trained as a dentist. Maybe they are under impression that the transmission is reduced but how can it be when the viral load is the same and now the efficacy is negative. That was a few months ago that we talked about it. I just hope with each passing day more and more people join Team Reality.
And those folks never reply when you send them evidence of their misunderstanding, right? That's what happens with my friends and colleagues.
As another Seattlite, thinking outside the established groupthink is something of a lost cause here and woe betide anyone who dares venture outside of this. It is a monoculture, yet with the god of diversity at their helm, there's minimal diversity of views tolerated.
I know, I love how all of these “diversity” people only want superficial diversity, not true diversity 🙄
WOW! It’s just as bad as Commifornia. It’s pathetic.
And you could have them read a history book and they’d find NO correlation whatsoever, right?
I agree with you Katherine, this was only possible because so many “regular” people helped make it so. Now, many didn’t really know and feared for their health and their family’s health in the beginning. But after the first few months to a year or so, if you weren’t starting to suspect things weren’t what they seemed, and continued pushing for all of the measures, you were part of the problem.
Yep. Most of my anger is directed at the public who helped this plan move in the direction that THEY wanted. I kept saying if people would just stop going along we could have ended it before it became completely out of hand. WE could have stopped this.
We are the only ones that ever can.
‘But the problem is that their foolishness made all the evil that ensued possible. And it is still going on apace; the wicked ones are still destroying good Doctors, torturing children, and breaking the world's production and supply chains.’
Yes to all this. If more people had stood up for the rights of others, the pain and damage would have been much less, especially those in authority, be it governmental or religious. So no, I will not give them a break over their culpability. They resemble all the ‘nice’ Germans who watched the Nazis try to destroy the ‘undesirables.’
I sort people into four categories here. There are those who fought it, those who dodged it, those who were tricked, and those responsible. I include in the last group anyone who may not have been in a position to impose mandates on others but whose behavior clearly indicates that they would’ve if they had. Each of these groups deserves different treatment, but I will say that my full trust and confidence will only ever be shown to those in the first group. While I may tolerate those in the middle groups, I will never respect them, regardless of the circumstances surrounding their choices. And I will go to my grave shunning those from the last group and advocating that every one of them be brought to justice.
Nice analysis! I tend to break it 3 ways, the mass hypnotized, those going along but knowing something is wrong, and those who saw through the lie from the start.
And then there are the "perps."
But we do have those who avoided it, but did not fight it, also, as you described, so really 5 all told.
Each must be dealt with differently and while I am very sorry for the coerced, I am not all all for those doing the coercing!!
They are a problem, imo. But the sheep are also a genuine hurdle, no doubt!
And then there are the real perpetrators.
My, my.
So much to do, and so little time!
Remember, Resist, Resist, Resist!!
Absolutely correct, Katherine. Their self indulgent apathy is what has allowed tyranny to gain such a foothold.
They’ll do it to us again in a heartbeat.
Liberty does from apathy.
Kinda catch-22, innit? We do need to shake the mindlessly compliant crowd into awareness—yet should be cautiously understanding & kind-hearted, for ↓
💬 our rational self-interest requires that it be EASY for them to join Team Reality.
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PS Sure I know that's not what we were treated to! 🙂 But know as well that an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
It will never be easy to join Team Reality because it means understanding the magnitude of forces humanity is up against. But I agree we can make it easier. in the best interest of all.
America join Team Reality?
We invented Hollywood and Disney....never gonna happen!
This is the hard part, because as you state, the sheep by "... their foolishness made all the evil that ensued possible." But this is important, the sheep were not causative. The sheep were after the causative fact enablers. And by the way, the first great injection was that of fear and panic leading into an uncontrollable avalanche of hysteria. ... and where did that come from?
However, and no matter how stupid and foolish the sheep were, it is incontestable that the sheep were entrapped by and subject to the full coercive application of force by the Powers That Be. Entrapment specifically carries with it the idea that people who are entrapped are induced into doing what they otherwise would not do. In this sense, the sheep were victimized, harmed, injured by those in power who were in breach of trust owing to their multiple act of criminality. And that is where the greatest burden of harm lies, with the instigators and promoters.
The sheep will predictably become very angry once they realize the monstrosity of lies heaped upon them owing the existential extent of the injury done them. As Lawyer Childers says, these people are useful to us. We need them. A chance for a healthier society needs even sheep with eyes more wide open. As such, our ire and thirst for justice needs to send its quiver of arrows against the perpetrators from the very top on down to those in administrative positions responsible for planing, instigating and carrying out this great Evil in the name of Public Health Safety!
Absolutely there is and was an agenda, developed and implemented by the perpetrators. The sheep are both victims and downstream perps themselves, albeit unwittingly in most cases.
Well said Katherine!
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They can't hide behind "I was just following orders." They were the ones giving the orders. Some were in it for the money and some for the power. Either way they were complicit and should have to pay for their crimes.
You forgot: THE MEDIA
They need to wake up from being woke.
Agree
They absolutely knew. The proof is they blocked “early treatment “ of two major drugs that work. Censorship. Even Still.
Exactly. My functional medicine doc, as of today, STILL cannot prescribe Ivermectin. It’s all so damn obvious!
I’m curious as to how many drugs out there today contain ivermectin and we just don’t realize it. There’s a topical gel treatment to be applied to the face for rosacea that’s called Soolantra. Goodrx shows the retail price for a 45 gram tube as being as high as $650. Guess what the active ingredient is… IVERMECTIN. If it’s such a dangerous drug why would they want you to even think of putting it on your face? And secondly, WHY is it so expensive when ivermectin is so cheap?? Ivermectin is inexpensive, effective and has a half life of 16 hrs so it doesn’t hang around in your body very long. Ridiculous that such a stink was made against its use. Criminal actually.
It can be ordered on internet. Ivermectin.com fair price
Ivermectin was isolated from a plant called worm wood or sweet Annie. The plant is available and is easy to grow. It's an attractive ground cover growing 6 to 12 inches high. The leaves are bitter.
Actually this is the story of how ivermectin was developed from a bacteria only found in soil in Japan. https://www.acs.org/content/dam/acsorg/education/whatischemistry/landmarks/discovery-of-ivermectin-mectizan.pdf.
In my small circle, there was only one doctor who would prescribe Ivermectin in 2021. I could not use my Medicare drug plan, WellCare, to fill the prescription. Using GoodRX at Walgreens, I had to pay $80 for 20 tables of 3 mg Ivermectin. On a retiree’s budget, that was an enormous expense. That one brave doctor, who prescribed Ivermectin, can no longer do this. He is in a clinical practice and the managing doctors ruled that Ivermectin can no longer be prescribed. That same clinical practice was also fervently against prescribing HCQ and to date, that rule still stands. Yet, that same clinical practice has opened a new URI clinic which solely and exclusively treats Upper Respiratory Infection (which I suspect is an outcome from damning shots and on-going boosters). A lot of folks claim they take HCQ and/or Ivermectin daily. Unfortunately my pocketbook does not allow for this protective luxury. Thank goodness we have been provided preventative protocol which continues to keep us safe, well and healthy. Knowledge is power!
That is why they need to be held to account. This is malevolence, and its premeditated. They had no conscience whatsoever, and they still don't.
agreed, so very evil on their part
Amnesty? No thanks. What they knowingly did to people is despicable, all in the name of getting trump out.
https://twitter.com/jessekellydc/status/1587115880751763463?s=42&t=2oOYHaBHWCl9icHSdFguxg
Yes! We can never again reach a point where we’re not ‘allowed’ to, for example, be with loved ones in nursing homes, sick or dying in the hospital, etc. “Allowed”?! By whom? Next time (and there will be a next time), we must not submit to these ‘rules’.
My 53 year old brother died because of this!!! I will NEVER forget what they did with their lockdowns!!!!
Nor should you forget. Forgiveness is a different animal altogether.
So many died from this planned and assisted evil.
I am so sorry for your loss.
Thank you. He wasn’t in great health but there is no way he should have died 😞 The very worst part of it was that he had to die alone and afraid. It breaks my heart 😢
Many of those rules are still in effect. I was in a doctor's office two days ago. Masks still required. Why?
Why indeed. They just won’t let go. Keep trying to not wear one. I say things like “no can do”, “I can’t do that; I need to breathe”, etc. Or just stay silent and not wear one; often no one says anything or pretends they don’t notice. We need to keep resisting and refusing to comply.
Why indeed?? It’s not for disease prevention that’s for sure!
Does anyone even know who invented that rule and why? I think it was to kill our family members. It was AWFUL. Someone needs to write a book about this hospital horror show. It was such an evil time.
Don’t know. But it’s an evil, wrong rule that we must never ever again obey.
those posts are heartbreaking and bring it all back, I know it is still going on.
Read a lot of those yesterday, truly heartbreaking.
Wow. That is some compilation of Covid death stories. I hope one day they will get the Justice they deserve.
Oh my dear God, I read so many awful, heartbreaking comments on Jesse Kelly’s Twitter feed, I want to be sick. These pages of awful events done to people by others are full-on criminal...let there be a Nuremberg 2, please God!
Also the asking to forgive “each other” as if the fired, the dead ( how many dead through suppression of very very effective prophylactic treatments) the vaccine injured, the many that lost their businesses, etc, are to be forgiven! Forgiven for what? This request is extremely offensive.
It is like asking a rape victim and a rapist to apologize to each other!
Yes! That's the part that got to me the most. Forgive "EACH OTHER???" *I* didn't cause anyone to lose their jobs, I didn't advocate that any particular group be barred from medical treatment, I didn't uninvite people from birthday parties, family reunions, Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc, based on vaccination status. I didn't unfriend and ridicule people for discussing alternative covid treatments. I did not close down schools for years and set back social and academic progress in kids by even more years. I did not teach children to fear their fellow human or force folks to rebreathe their own carbon dioxide and suppress their immunity. ***I*** have exactly zero to apologize for. The nerve! I am actually willing to forgive, as Jesus wants us to do, but I do NOT NEED forgiveness (on this front, anyway), nor do I think that "forgiveness" means that justice should not also be served to the higher ups!
EXACTLY!!!!
Well said, Jen!
NOT TO MENTION. . . but I will, those dead due to delayed medical care "because Covid"? Surgeries, cancer treatment, transplants, etc? OR the psyches and families destroyed by the extra domestic violence, suicide, alcoholism, depression, etc etc.
Monsters.
The harms are endless.
Here is a small one…
I am retired, yet for two years my pension received zero contributions, as the trade show industry shut down.
Inflation, Demand driven inflation and monetary inflation are both a result of Covid policy and of course the green nutters.
Indeed, this Covid response may yet break the global economy via a Great Depression
I believe this was a planned attack on the health and wealth of humanity.
I also believe in the power of God and His mercy and love for His people.
Planned. Quite possibly. There is an interesting interview with Peter Daczak about 2 years before the virus talking about this virus. Hmmm. And several weird prescient interviews with Bill Gates also years before the virus talking about a viral pandemic. Hmmm.
Great point!
Yes!! I made that point too when I posted a comment on the Bad Kitty’s Substack about this article.
I feel the same way.
I agree Naomi, so emphatically, if type size was available this reply would be in 72 POINT SIZE TYPE SCALE! To quote, “If I’m right, Oster’s initial instinct was to protect her family from powerful, unaccountable authority by cooperating” My God!!! It was EXACTLY European citizens submitting to the NAZI REGIME, turning in listed dissident neighbors and Jews and any undesirable selected for the “final solution” that resulted in one of the most UNFORGIVABLE heinous atrocities of crimes against humanity and genocide in history, BY THE SAME MANIACAL genealogical depopulation eugenics monsters like Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab!
Simply applying and knowing history SHOULD have been a bellwether indicator for every edict and mandate “this does not make rational sense”.... adding the most obvious, never in medical history has a healthy population EVER been forced to quarantine, forced to test, forced to mask, forced to distance, forced to shut down businesses, forced to abuse infants and children with irrefutable insane measures... oh right, there was a time in history... WW2 NAZI GERMANY!
Within the first month of the "two weeks to slow the spread" I had made several yellow stars out of cardboard, and carried them around with me. I used them to talk to folks about this. I re-read Herman Wouk's "Winds of War" series until it was shredded, read Wiesel's "Night", also "Man's Search for Meaning", all to try to understand the madness all around me. ALL of my friends complied to some extent. Some excoriated me and unfriended me.
YES, these past two years DEFINITELY have exact parallels to Nazi Germany. We can never forget.
😳 Indeed, we can all be evil, and the Germans were nothing special → https://brownstone.org/articles/they-thought-they-were-free/ ← a revelatory engaging read albeit longish 👌
🗨 It’s been more than seventy-five years since the Nazis were defeated and Auschwitz was liberated.[...] How were millions of people systematically exterminated in an advanced Western nation—a constitutional republic? How did such respectable and intelligent citizens become complicit in the murder of their countrymen? These are the questions Milton Mayer sought to answer in his book They Thought They Were Free.
Yes yes yes a thousand times yes!!!!!
Also the Spanish Inquisition, Salem Witch Trials etc etc.
SHOULD, sure, I'm with you in 72 pt type 🙂 However regrettably unfortunately alas, it's NOT how reality works—which is much better approximated by ↓↓
💬 initial instinct was to protect her family from powerful, unaccountable authority by cooperating
The perennial metaphysical *ought* that stubbornly refuses to smoothly translate into *is* 🤦
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PS Oh if only we could dissolve the people!.. [Die Lösung by Brecht → https://allpoetry.com/The-Solution]
This is from Chris Bray's Substack. He thinks the Oster article was a trial balloon for the next narrative:
https://chrisbray.substack.com/p/beta-testing-the-next-dropped-shoe?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=484195&post_id=82151193&isFreemail=false&utm_medium=email
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Agreed. Instead of amnesty let’s shout for justice!
What is needed is "never again" imprinted in hearts of decent but utterly misguided folks. Justice while necessary needs to be carefully wielded or things could get even worse.
The local university by me, an engineering school one of the best in the country is insisting on jabbing students and any local resident who uses their facilities, like tennis courts. Unforgivable in the present; that's where we are at as just another example.
Alumni need to STOP university contributions!!!!
I just read an op-ed by an anonymous Wellesley College student who says that boosters are required for students there by Dec 1. She says many oppose this but all are afraid to speak up. And Wellesley is not the only school doing this. A year ago this was still horrible and nonsensical but not as surprising. Nowadays it's simply unforgivable and unquestionably unethicial and anti-science.
Unforgivable.
Criminal! We have data.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 couldn’t have said it better myself! I want people put in prison for what they did. As for my own community, I feel bad for how they were misled but an apology from them would go a long way.
I’m not holding my breath
If it was MY choice?
NO amnesty for anyone who knowingly caused harms, or shunned the opinions of medical professionals and people of science who, for the greater good, attempted to offer advice and suggestions geared towards a response to the "pandemic", as well as treatment methods for those who fell ill.
Those swayed by the psyops? SHAKE THE SAND out of your hair and get the mask down OFF YOUR EYES.
And only then? They may be forgiven.
I'm not in a forgiving mood. Forgiveness must be granted from the person who was harmed. Those who were forced out of their jobs, those who were vilified and condemned, those driven from the public square by the Twitter mob, those who are going to be suffering for the rest of their lives with myocarditis and neurological problems. those who have died are the ONLY ones who should forgive.
Naomi, add to your list those who lost loved ones because of the jab or medical malpractice.
Yes, you are so right.
Or Faith, as division was sewn in our churches.
It’s been devastating. Additionally, we find funds flow from WEF, Collins to A few High powered evangelical churches as well as main line with the guilt:
Paid to pass the kill shot while incorporating it as a message of true love. Paid off and the division sewn sadly.
Many feel as you do, and it's understandable. What a crappy couple of years they've put us thru. Stay safe, be well.
It's not over yet. It takes about one year from policies put in motion to hit home. Next year is going to be horrific. It'll make the last 2 look like kindergarten play time. Stock up on canned food, dried beans, shelf stable foods.
Wholeheartedly agree.
Stock up on food, water and medicine. It’s going to get worse.
Naomi, please elaborate. Which policies are going to result in next year being more horrific than the last two? Thank you.
We could start with inflation. They say it is currently at 8.2% but we all know, at least those of us who go grocery shopping, and pay for stuff, that is is higher than that. It'll go higher still because the Fed has to tighten interest rates, and the fuel shortages are going to become far, far worse. Add to that this administration can't stop spending.
Currently I heard it estimated we have less than 20 days of diesel fuel on hand. Everything important runs on diesel. No trucks, trains, no agriculture machinery, no home heating fuel. What will be available will be vastly more expensive because it's all supply and demand. This administration can deny rational economics but the old tried and true is still true and will bite them in the rear. Biden has also dangerously depleted our fuel reserves, including diesel, as well as our military hardware.
The shortage of fuel, and the raise in rates will slow down the economy causing layoffs and smaller businesses will go out of business. All businesses will look to slim down to cut their overhead. The days of frivolous HR policies may be coming to an end out of necessity. A company can't maintain a load of incompetent, useless employees in lean times.
Michael Yon is predicting worldwide food shortages and famines. I hate to go that far for the US but if trucks which supply everything from gasoline to the gas stations and food to the stores are grounded due to a lack of diesel fuel or diesel fuel so expensive they can't afford to purchase it, the effect is the same. Empty shelves.
And, you think this administration which CAUSED the fuel shortages to start with has any idea how to address the problem. you are dreaming. Biden's solution is to put a windfall profits tax on oil companies. I was around as a very young adult when Jimmy Carter did this. It made the shortages worse. You get less of what you tax more.
People in the colder areas of the country will suffer the worst. Many will not be able to afford heating oil this winter. Another reason I am thankful I live in Florida. We get a couple of cold days during the winter but at least I can load up on clothing layers.
The bright spot for the Democrats and Biden is all this will happen after the Republicans retake the House and Senate. Biden will be able to blame them for all the misery he and his incompetent administration have created. The sycophant media will magnify this and incredibly stupid people will believe it.
That is not all. There is room for worse.
The good thing is that people will be elected to the House and Senate with solid common sense and real know how. People such as Blake Masters and Joe Kent. I am counting on them to be beacons of hope and sanity.
Anyone who could vote for a Democrat...
Not by me. They don't deserve it.
Decades worth of immunology regarding the mechanisms of respiratory infections, ineffective public health measures, the immune system's response, previous failed attempts to vaccinate, viable early treatments etc... were not only ignored but specifically suppressed by "experts" who cannot claim not to have known. The authoritarian measures in the name of "public health" ruined people's actual health, tore families apart, stripped people of their livelihoods and encouraged the worst behavior.
If that isn't enough, officials and PHE continue, to this day, to push boosters and shots, obfuscate data, ignore increasing all-cause mortality, ignore the sufferers of adverse events etc..
Everyone with an inkling of awareness recognizes the window for 'amnesty' has long since passed.
This was not a "mistake" made by these fiends. If the first url doesn't work, cllick on the second... you'll just need to register.
https://www.therealanthonyfaucimovie.com/viewing/
https://www.therealanthonyfaucimovie.com/trailer/
Agree. It's too blatant to be an oversight. Also, I watched the movie already! Thanks!
I read the book, and saw this documentary.
Look up Plandemic
Thanks for the link! I had watched it a couple of weeks ago but I wanted my husband to watch. Your link had 5 days left.
Amen. They knew. They had money to make.
Gosh, you mean like the $5 million dollars Dr. Fauci got from....somewhere....during the pandemic?
Covid policy contained an
Unprecedented number of evils… there’s no doubt about that.
Ruining small businesses, careers, people losing their jobs if they weren’t vaccinated (even if they were working at the beginning of the pandemic for almost a year prior to the vaccine rollout) - just discriminating against people based on vaccine status, separating people from their churches and place of worship, destroying human contact and relationships, denying education to our most precious children… and the list goes on and on.
But here’s where I take issue… people new to this vaccine issue… need to realize… The CDC has known for DECADES… that vaccines harm people. And no one has done anything- EVER!!
The moms who have watched their children disappear before their eyes… after 9-11 vaccines given on one day, or after the MMR vaccine… have all been silenced and discredited… for two decades.
This is the SAME travesty.
The same corruption.
This is not new.
So the moms who have been advocating for decades that the pediatric vaccine schedule is NOT safe… were told they didn’t know what they were talking about. They were looney anti- vaxxers.
The entire vaccine program is a sham.
I was a teacher 25 years ago. I was the fully self contained special education teacher in a mega school… it was four elementary schools in one. I had the most involved special education kids in the whole building.
Guess how many kids I had on the autism spectrum.
ZERO.
NONE.
Not a single child.
You don’t have a genetic epidemic fall from the sky.
So when you are asking yourself WHY the CDC and FDA are not doing anything about the safety of these COVID vaccines… The answer is clearly because they’ve been harming children for decades with vaccines and getting away with it.
This vaccine issue is bigger than anyone realizes if you are only coming to this issue -over the last two years.
Autism is now 1 in 44 children in the U.S. and I’d venture to say it’s even higher- probably closer to 1 in every 25 boys.
Women are outpacing men in higher educational degrees… and all of this is rooted in the fact that they’ve destroyed two generations of boys already.
You are correct.
The entire vaccine program is a crime against humanity.
Now the question is
Has the whole world awoken to the scam… and can it be corrected?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr has tried to shed light on this. I only recently learned about him because of COVID.
COVID and the lies have lifted the rocks and we now see all the vermin underneath.
The scales removed from your eyes are hopefully shining in bright light. God bless and share RFK, JR far and wide.
Yes, you are 100% correct, an until they repeal the law that Regan signed, they will never be held responsible. We are better off, fighting the diseases with our immune system, than the pharmaceutical industry. The industry needs to be held responsible for their destruction.
Excellent point.
"Both Oster and the lady in the tweet eventually came around and recognized that they were wrong."
Nope. Not correct. The people that treated unvaxxed that way are "ends justify the means" people. They will lie, cheat, steal, coerce, and some of them even murder those that disagree with them. They burned up the trust needed to believe they recognize they were wrong a long, long time ago.
They do NOT recognize they were wrong. They are lying to escape accountability.
NOBODY GETS A FREE PASS, NOT EVEN MY SISTER.
I may not advocate for putting everyone on trial, but s/he who does the crime must pay consequences.
If you tolerate this "ignorance of the law/truth" now, they will do it all again at the next crossroads.
I learned as a kid, "ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law." As a senior citizen, the same is true for abusing anyone, whether the transgression rises to the level of crime or not. Time for them to pay the price.
Forgive? Mostly.
Forget/Allow off the hook: Nobody.
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These are the real criminals! Jeff makes an important distinction between the criminals and those who just foolishly got caught up in the narrative. If you were a jerk to those around you in the pandemic, I could forgive if you are contrite like the Tweet example Jeff gave. But any public figures or authority figures that caused harm to people by commission or omission, accountability is demanded.
Absolutely right! I would have been on the street this year for refusing the DNA experiment...last second, God prepared a table before me in the presence of my enemies. I weep for those whome it has gone less favorably...and I'm saving vigorously for the next weaponization of public health against my family.
There must be full legal exposure of the truth and legal accountability right down to the local level. Legal...
Our friend euggypius seems to agree that Dr. Oster is off her rocker. What a great post. https://www.eugyppius.com/p/once-more-on-renowned-fool-emily
I don't often disagree with you, Jeff, but I think I do today. The people around us (Austin, TX area) weren't afraid of the government. They weren't going along to get along. They were militantly following orders from their supremes. They refused to listen to any evidence, refused to do any actual research, and refused to allow others to disagree. They were ruthless in their demands that everyone shut up and do exactly what they were told to do. Our businesses were shut down. The unmasked were chased out of stores. They ran what can only be described as psy-op campaigns in our schools to frighten our children and they illegally forced them to wear masks. I agree that we will need the repentant to fix what happened, but I do not blindly give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe it's just me and I'm not there yet. Some might have been fooled but many were willfully ignorant and all too willing to deny their fellow citizens their rights.
I’m not there either. Willfully ignorant says it for me with people I know. I’m afraid I see no signs of “life” in any of them. Still willfully ignorant. To their graves.
Good point.
I also resent Emily's claim that we were "guessing."
No, we were not guessing. Some of us had healthcare training & knew. Others did research & learned.
And the inventors of the so-called "bleach treatment" did it with the intent to smear Trump & us.
100%. All of the available data was out there, particularly on masking. It’s intellectual laziness if you don’t go looking for it.
Ideally you should be your own advocate but most rely on others for that. Innocent ignorance may be forgivable but not forgotten.
Clue number 2471 was that they quickly recommended pregnant women get the vax. Even I (not a doctor) knew that was not very sciency. Having COVID does not provide sterilizing immunity, only the shot does? Where is that in the med texts? State medical boards removing specialty licenses for saying Ivermectin is a worthy treatment? C'MON MAN!!
People who were stupid and willfully ignorant lay people who bought that load of dung... doctors who repeated it to patients!
Yes! The information was out there, you just had to dig and work for it. They were content being spoon fed misinformation.
Regardless of why it happened, many people treated others as nothing more than disease-carrying vectors (like mosquitos or rats) due to their own fear. This is pretty ugly behavior any way you slice it.
I'll forgive anyone who genuinely asks for it as I know it's harmful for me to walk around with a chip on my shoulder. However, forgiveness doesn't mean amnesty, people who abused their authority should be punished (which they would agree with if they were genuinely repentant). In addition, though I may forgive others who acted vilely towards other people, that doesn't mean I'll forget it. When the chips were down these people treated others like dirt. Having done it once there is a good chance they will do it again and don't deserve trust unless they earn it back.
The phrase "forgive and forget" is thrown around all too often as if as part of forgiveness we are required to erase it from our memory banks. That's not how it works and it's frankly foolish to do so.
SO TRUE: "FORGIVENESS doesn't mean AMNESTY." Big difference! Forgiveness heals the aggrieved; amnesty harms justice, and allows the aggressor to escape without conversion.
I’ll never forgive my library where I was called literally a danger to them snd every one else for not wearing a mask once. They would not let me speak until I had clamped a tissue over my mouth and nose. It was humiliating and surreal.I felt assaulted. I had worked there with these people for over 10 years. I did threaten them with legal action later. I’m sure everyone was jabbed up by then also but I was still a threat. I just pop in now to pick up holds snd go out again while these ninnies are STILL wearing masks behind plexiglass fortifications. I will not forget. No respect for them.
Interesting that it’s a library thing. What is it with libraries now? I recently went to my city library and there was the plexiglass and masks thing. But the thing that really disgusted me was the bowl of buttons next to the help desk. A sign invited me to choose the one with “my” preferred pronouns. This makes me both angry and sad. What has happened to our country?
We need to picket the libraries and demand representational support. i.e 50% conservative topics. LGBT month? Oh, ok follow that with 'Abortion Takes A Life" month. It's our taxpayer money. We have to fight them and picketing is a good start.
Oh I would love to do that! I would do it in a heartbeat! If I had a couple other ladies for support I would do it. I can’t understand why there haven’t been people picketing at these events yet. Why are we so squishy?
I LOVE this idea. I am trying to figure out how to make this happen. Maybe start by proposing it to the local director (who I'm sure would recoil at the idea, but my tax dollars are supporting the library too!)?
Ugh! Even there.
Seriously. Do they get their marching orders from some big "public libraries advocacy group?"
Libraries used to be a "safe space" for me. If I was stressed, popping in and browsing through books was weirdly calming. That has been utterly destroyed for me.
I lost all my joy in libraries after that abuse. All of it. I don’t attend events nor even talk to a couple of the employees. It’s over but getting books. After my abuse I picked up my materials outside on a cart for 6 months. . Even during the winter. I refused to enter.
Another joy taken from us...but "Amnesty." Uh, NO.
Same, Permie. I lived in our local library when my kids were younger - we could spend hours there. Then the whole COVID thing hit, masks slipped (or were applied) and now the trans agenda is in full gear. And I'm in a small, upstate NY town.
This story makes my blood boil.
Agree. The trust is gone. I can't look at them the same. I might be superficially polite on the surface but no trust.
I will never trust the medical profession again. Utilize them yes, with caution and necessity, but trust: NO.
Agree. The way some people would scurry away when you approached on a sidewalk OUTSIDE was so creepy and dehumanizing 🤬
And I agree, the trust is gone with those who don’t truly understand or acknowledge the harm and vow to take action to prevent it from happening again. Words are not good enough.
I remember the time when a family saw me coming toward them on a trail and they immediately formed a small circle with their backs toward me. Strange, as though I were an alien, a threat of some kind. And this is how they are raising their children. I’ve no doubt that these same people would have no qualms about hauling us off to camps on the slightest pretext if they felt threatened.
That’s what I discovered, too. People on hiking trails treating you as diseased vermin.
Cross me once, shame on you. Cross me twice, shame on me. And yet, this scenario will be played out again, with the same bad actors clamoring to say how it’s “different” this time.
Just like an abuser.
I don't see myself getting there either. I was shamed for my opinion. I was right all along and now I deserve some respect for my opinion. I need to hear some apologies or at least some acknowledgement that I was right. Let's talk about the elephant in the room.
I was told I should NOT be able to use ANY medical facilities if I got sick and should just die at home. These were friends I’ve known since I’m 14. 🤦♀️
That’s ok. I told them they were acting racist for telling everyone to stay at home (to work) but not letting black or brown people work because their jobs weren’t work from home jobs. [I really didn’t mean it. I wanted to get a rise out of them after they told me to die at home.]
I honestly don’t know if most of these people will ever get out of their covidcoma. 🤔
And willful blindness. I work in the financial industry and you can't use the excuse of willful blindness to get out of being guilty.
This is training for those who will blindly worship the beast and take the mark. All this is preparation and training designed by the devil.
Willful ignorance / willful denial, is definitely a real phenomenon that I've witnessed/encountered many a time, since way before the Covid era.
This, exactly. They were self-appointed mask enforcers.
I remember at a garden center getting confused while looking for kale & accidentally turning the "wrong" direction down an aisle, only to get screamed at by a couple coming the other way.
I also remember at the supermarket trying reassure a hysterical tourist, only to have her report me to a worker for being unmasked. The worker explained they weren't mandatory here. 2 weeks later, our cdc rep announced he was getting calls from visitors complaining, & if we didn't wear them they'd make them mandatory...which they did.
The saddest tweet I think I've ever read was the man coerced by his doctor & wife into getting jabbed. A few days later, he was in excruciating pain from multi-system organ failure. His final tweet of bitterness, being visited by groups of doctors talking about him as if he were a lab rat in an experiment, as he lay dying.
No forgiveness here.
Ugh. The symptoms of mass hysteria. All done to us on purpose, by the way.
The horrors have been unimaginable.
Austin is especially bad in this regard because Austinites form a mini-Silicon Valley. The rest of Texas was SLIGHTLY, but only slightly, less dictatorial, depending on location. For example, 100 feet west of the Tarrant/Dallas county line, I could go in almost any store unmasked, but thanks to the Dallas County Tin Pot Dictator, the gatekeepers (in Dallas County) wouldn't let me in without a muzzle (which usually got removed as soon as I was past them). I'm afraid said Tin Pot Dictator aka Clay Jenkins is going to be voted in again. My mistake was moving into Dallas County instead of staying in Tarrant (where I belong). Austin, for me, is a hostile foreign country.
It absolutely is a hostile foreign country down here. I'm here because of family and job situations. But I have become much more vocal over the last few years and I'm starting to see a lot of hidden conservatives coming out of the closet. They're still afraid and still outnumbered but they're here and are becoming braver.
I don’t even recognize the Austin I grew up and graduated high school in. Just the homelessness is outrageous and nothing like when I lived there. Mopac wasn’t a toll road is how long ago that was. It also ended on the south end at the entrance to the Travis Country neighborhood. My brothers are in Hayes County now but one works in Austin. Both sister-in-laws work for the same school and no matter how many times I tried to explain the numbers of vaxxed vs unvaxxed sick/hospitalized/deaths were intentionally misleading, even though Hayes County leans Republican, it was me who was labeled a conspiracy theorist. I don’t discuss Covid with my SILs anymore. Or even my best friend. It’s almost like a battlefield at times, except I’m the only one waiving the white flag because I’m done trying to help them see the truth. I know one of my brothers can see the truth because the first question he asked me upon learning of our cousin’s death was, “Was he vaccinated?”
My son was in Austin for an internship over the summer. I really enjoyed wearing my C&C shirts when going out. 🤓
Thankfully, he says when he graduates he will live outside Austin if hired by this company. It’s to liberal for him and he’s 20. Hopefully, many of his age are seeing “the light”.
Well, it's high time, and that's very good to know. I certainly intended no insult to you for living there; we can't always decide those things, especially if we've been somewhere a long time and it changes. I am happy to see that it is actually changing - for the better, however much that is. In the (translated) words of my very favorite musical group The HU, In Wolf Totem: be brave, and don't give up.
No offense taken!
I wouldn't say we're in a major change yet but at least I have some hope. Never give up!
Omg... so spot on GH.... Austin.... Tin Pot Dictators and mask and distance bully gatekeepers.... plural.... everywhere, that was and is Austin and surrounding! At Salt Traders on I-35 Round Rock, venturing out for an anniversary celebration dinner, the overreaction overreach started literally at the door with the Gestapo Stasi hostess, YELLING at the four of us... “Pull your masks up over your nose!!!!” Admittedly, I uttered... “Bully oppression... nice touch” That resulted in an obvious target 🎯 on us that is inexcusable, and absolutely unforgivable! After over 30 minutes obviously with no waiter attending our table, while others around us seated after, we’re being served. Finally after requesting service a triple muzzled waitress came over ridiculously maintaining 6’ distance from the table! None of us could understand a word she uttered. We should have left, but the consensus was why ruin the occasion further, already past 8pm..... The ladies after dinner, prior to dessert walked unmasked to the restroom... o m g 🤯 we were literally screamed at inside the restroom by the hostess and an attendant, then arm ushered out the door.... and out of the restaurant! The Gestapo Stasi hostess said our husbands would be notified to leave after the bill is paid! By the time the men rejoined us on the restaurant front porch the police arrived!!!!! Kudos to the masked officers who pulled their masks and literally apologized, reassuring us “this is not law or violation in any way, sorry for the inconvenience, but once we are called to a situation, we have to respond.”
NO.... I WILL NOT FORGET OR FORGIVE, hope the biache was fired, and we will NEVER STEP FOOT IN ROUND ROCK’s SALT TRADERS RESTAURANT EVER AGAIN.... so Jeff, no, absolutely not... to forgive and forget is setting us up for all of this insanity to repeat, until we are exactly where they want us, “owning NOTHING to make them happy.”
Thank you for letting me know this. We're in Round Rock frequently so I'll be sure to avoid the Gestapo. We had a lot of stores in the Austin area treating us (and others) in a similar manner. Never forget.
Never... ever...
Holy moly, that's worse than even I thought! Hope your husbands didn't leave a tip! (and I NEVER say that.)
G Harkness - out here in the boonies, we think of Austin as a wart on the backside of Texas. Sadly, all of the big cities are controlled by liberals…but Austin is over the top.
"Austin, for me, is a hostile foreign country."
----- AGREED!! Until 1 year ago we lived smack dab between Waco & Austin.... The area is now "little Austin", and growing. It's horrible.
Clay Jenkins is a weasel and a power drunk dictator. I agree.
Agree. People were coerced in a variety of ways - whatever worked - everyone I know who got jabbed explained their reasons, such as: I needed to travel. I needed to keep my job. I needed to visit my elderly mom. I needed to attend a wedding. Etc. Never did they say they were afraid of the government. I think Jeff is off target on this one.
Well I guess in a way those things are being afraid of the government, because the government has the power to deny people the ability to travel, work etc through the mandates. However, I still agree that many people really enjoyed in some perverse way the power trip and social prestige they got from following the dictates and shaming those who disagreed.
This was beyond ignorance, beyond the lack of questioning, beyond the land of the sheep. This was a government-endorsed program that revealed Nazis among us. Sorry, not sorry; it's true.
We call some of them Karens but it is more than that. People showed how easily led they are and then how easily they can be converted into NKVD and yes, Nazis.
“Just kidding” will not do. It was a project in the works for years. When it hit…and 2 weeks shut in, I predicted it would be an interruption to election.
Our election output managed. Meanwhile, we are fossil fuel dept in others? We are going to starve? Money to Ukraine? Admit it, IF Trump were fairly re-elected.. we definitely would not be globally or economically in this space. Accountability.
When I read the event 201 planning guide (in my opinion, it wasn't a simulation it was a plan), I view what's taken place as more of a fact-finding mission, so the ultimate plan (globalism) can be achieved. Basically, unleash a set of plans to see what worked well and what didn't. A data collection exercise. Then they'll attempt to fix what didn't work well for the next time rinse and repeat until UN Agenda 2030 is achieved.
Compliance and the willingness for one human being to commit atrocities in mass has been proven many times in the past. It's not a question it's a fact.
As Yuri Bezmenov said in a Love Letter to America: "My dear friends, I think you are in big trouble"
I'd have to agree with him after seeing people I considered quite intelligent frothing with anger about anti-vaxxer's, not wearing a mask, hating Trump for no factual reason, etc. I have more questions than answers!
Willful ignorance is not at all unique to COVID ~ think election integrity, CRT, trans ideology, January 6, the war in Ukraine, etc. etc. Willful ignorance is part and parcel of the opposing mindset, promoted/encouraged in media of all genres and leaders on the left. Simplistically, any facts you present have already been debunked ~ end of story. And if you continue to try to engage, you are a conspiracy theorist, live in a bubble, and are being offensive. Overcoming the arrogance, emotionalism, and willful ignorance is totally up to the individual. I believe it can happen, but it will never happen until the faults cited are acknowledged. And the faults will never be acknowledged if there is an easy off ramp.
Some lessons can't be taught, they simply have to be learned through the school of hard knocks. I continue to try to engage and will be more than happy to forgive when their eyes and minds are open to the possibility that they might have been mislead...
Martha, you are exactly correct. Try to talk to a pro vax person about dangers, or masking, or the origins of the virus, they immediately discount your sources as fringe, kook, and they love the word "debunked". I have close family members who launch into laughter and ridicule. I don't expect any of them to change their tune and ask for amnesty. They still believe they are right.
Agreed ... but consider that a diploma from the School of Hard Knocks, in this case, may come at the cost of our nation.
That is why those of us who recognize what is going on must continue to speak out and do what we can to save our nation...
Yes, in my experience and in my every day interactions, I encountered way too many willing foot soldiers for the narrative. These weren't people just trying to get by, they were committed fanatics with a new religion.
My mom talked to a 20-something during it all. He listened and respected her (she's a retired dr) but could not "believe" her because it meant all the institutions in the entire world were in on it and lying. That's a lot for a young person to wrap their head around. This operation was a "shock and awe" operation and it worked so well because it is easier to believe there are a few crazies yammering about things than to face that much of what you believed about reality is completely wrong--and in a deeply negative direction.
Definitely running into that with my own family. One family member will only believe "official" sources so I had trouble getting him to look at pretty much anything. Discouraging, but I completely understand why they feel that way!
PermieGeek - this is such a good point. The scope of what we’ve been up against is massive. For young people or anyone who hasn’t developed a skepticism gauge, it’s unbelievable. Not only are we telling them that the news and politicians are lying to them, but it’s doctors, teachers, community leaders…seemingly everyone! The gaslighting was so effectively done that it may well take a cataclysmic, life altering event in their lives to even begin the realization that they were lied to.
These are the Brown Shirts and the Witch Hunters and the Spanish Inquisition. The same evil of those times which flows through humanity is currently loose on our Earth again.
I actually had a reoccurring nightmare of my ex-best friend as a part of group of brown shirts pulling people out of their houses in my neighborhood. I always woke up before they got to my house. I called her upset and convinced her not to support vaccine passports, within a month she was supporting them.
I feel ya Jason. I too live in Austin and I essentially had to lie to my clients and to my own family about my vaccination status for over a year. I was protected by immunity from infection before the vaccine was available, but for some reason, everyone forgot medical science and thought literally everyone needed a jab.
I really didn’t feel like explaining what natural immunity was and why it meant I didn’t need the vaxx. they just couldn’t hear it.
since then I have been honest that I lied and most don’t care but a few family members and clients are very hurt that I lied, even tho I was RIGHT!
this has caused damage to my relationships even to this day...
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I know Jesus wants me to forgive and I’m working on it...but I’m not there yet.
I can eventually forgive (not forget) non-medical people for being gullible & drinking the koolaid...maybe even the ones who were just plain disgusting to those of us who have a different opinion. However, forgiving my fellow healthcare professionals is a different story. If they want to take a chance with their own health, that’s their choice; but they KNOW how REAL science works, clearly never did their own research & some still pushed it on others & berated those who chose to decline the koolaid. There are many who STILL have a jab superiority complex this late in the game. I have 3 words for them: DO NO HARM!
Last year I had an office visit with my neurologist of 10 years. I told her that I had gotten Covid and got over it in a couple days. She then preceeded to tell me that I should still get the vaccine! For what purpose? I had natural immunity at that point and wouldn't have gotten it even if I didn't.
That was my last office visit with that doctor.
In my area of NY I think people were just really believing the media, their doctors and politicians. I found out years ago when people have no faith or relationship with His Son, they will find someone to worship. Entertainers, politicians, government regulatory agencies, Big Pharm, academia, so-called scientists or experts, doctors. And guess who was pushing the safe and effective clot shot? Democrats liberals are, studies shown, not of faith in God as evidenced by their life choices such as abortion and sex and drug extreme beliefs. They would be the ones to listen believe and trust those entertainers, Democrat politicians and their doctors etc. Many are dead now or differing sad to say. They trusted the wrong people. People are fallen sinful creatures that’s why they need a Savior.
Don’t forget, many of them ENJOYED the power they were wielding to kick you out of those stores, to close your businesses and keep your kids terrified. That’s my true feeling about all this. People literally wanted to see us die, shunned from society and no freedom to move about our own country and state and cities. I can forgive people that TRULY believed this was right and didn’t force anything or treat people like shit. But i think that is a very small number of people. And for the rest, I DEMAND accountability and will fight for it til I die.
I have no clue. What post of mine are you commenting please? I don’t understand when I click on thread I can’t find what I wrote. SMH.
Also, when you click on the comment if you scroll to the top it says <—— Back to Thread. Click that and it takes you to the article it’s on.
I can do that but I forget what I posted in past posts and like to read them with the response. Sometimes they show up, sometimes not even when I click back to thread. Oh well. But thanks
It’s probably one of the early November posts as I catch up on C&C reading rn.
I’m still pissed off about them closing my church and terrorizing all of us. I want Justice.
As a grandmother I am very concerned about her future. I pray a lot. I see the ultimate goal is depopulation and control by rich psychotic demonic eugenics such as Gates with WEF and Planned Parenthood etc. . The pro choice abortion movement is demonic as is the sexual revolution of the 60s but it’s not new. America and most nations have strayed from fear of the Lord. We took God out of our schools with prayer and 10 commandments removed when I was a little girl. Our nation plummeted after that. Schools became cesspools of immorality and evil now indoctrination centers into AntiChrist religions such as the LGBTQ agenda and CRT which are occults in my thinking. All one has to do is see their books and goals. The activists are after unrestrained sex even with children as proven now with transgenderism going after kids in schools with freak shows. Disgusting what BIden did with Title 9 the pervert! Most of the occult members hate God and family. They murder their unborn and are proud (Pride bring the deadly sin of Lucifer) . These people hate children and care not about the future of our country. Communists in 1963 vowed to infiltrate one or both of the US political parties. It’s obvious they have succeeded.
With regard to Emily Oster's outrageous proposal, surely the January 6 defendants should be give the same courtesy!
We really need to picket the DC jail where our guys are being tortured for the crime of trespassing.
And we need to picket the local hospitals and doctor offices and medical companies whose staff STILL push the jabs. Picketing in front of Disney here in Orlando brought the news cameras out and helped tamp their groomer efforts.
Wait for the NYTimes' 1619 Project to announce their discovery that today's white Americans are not closet slave-owners. That's equally as unlikely as Cheney freeing the J6 folks, or Fauci and Collins donating their billions to victims of the vaxx campaign.
To the crazy woman who wants us to forgive and forget. I am a Christian and I know I am commanded to forgive, but this is not the right application for that commandment.
Forgive??? No, we need Nuremberg Trials again! This. is. not. over. The vaccines are still being pushed. The evil ones are reserving the right to lock us down again if they deem it necessary. This was/is a worldwide debacle.
Many thousands died due to the suppression of early treatment options.
People were literally held hostage in hospitals and given no treatment other than what Fauci dictated, Remdesivir and ventilators, which caused kidney failure and death. Hospitals were incentivized for following this treatment plan. Watch this video of two women telling how their husbands were killed in the hospital and then tell me we should forgive. One woman managed to get ivermectin given to her husband and he began to improve immediately. An evil doctor stopped the administration of the ivermectin and the man died! https://thehighwire.com/videos/remdesivir-nightmare-i-absolutely-blame-the-hospital-for-his-death/
Good doctors have had their medical licenses taken away. California just made it illegal for doctors to say anything about covid which disagrees with the approved narrative.
Many thousands of people were left injured by the shots, with no compensation and, oftentimes, only gaslighting from doctors. I know some of these people.
Many thousands were killed by the vaccines. The government's own website, VAERS, which was supposed to serve as a signal of problems, was ignored when 1000+ deaths were already reported early in 2021.
They are going to do this again and, sadly, there will be people who comply. Not me!
I don't think Mr. Childers is advocating for ignoring the sin and not taking those responsible to court. Hes a LAWYER. But to those who were allowing themselves to be used for the greater good who didnt do their due diligence and know it and apologize to friends and family, we must be forgiving. It wont make everything like it was. Our truat has to be rebuilt with them but it exposed character we had ignored or were ignorant of before. Perhaps theae relationships might be better because we will have more respect for being smartee than they thought we were. 🤷🏻♀️🙄 That would be true humility.
While I appreciate your prospective, I am tired of turning the other cheek. Every time I do it seems like I get slapped again. As a biological XX female and critical thinking being, I and many of us have been cancelled out of existence. “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take this any more!”
I agree with what you said.
The trouble with people like Emily is that she is using her own lack of doing diligence as a reason to excuse her bad behavior. Like, she just didn’t know the koolaid had cyanide in it, but now she does, so can we just go back to making our mud pies. Or something.
I’ve done some things that, given what I know now, I would not have done. I don’t go around saying, “well, I just didn’t know.” Instead, I say, “wow, I wish I had listened to the people who trying to tell me x, that I had asked them some questions, instead of writing them off as kooks.” And I say, “I’m really sorry for what I did, I wish I had known differently. I would have done differently. Please forgive me.”
From my perspective, you are a rarity. I haven’t heard a single personal account of such an apology in my circle. My daughter was tortured by her in-laws through those times. Crickets. Just not a topic any longer.
My apology has nothing to do with the current craziness. I’m referring to other stuff. Although I hope that I would have the courage and moral character to be willing to admit wrong doing in this area as well.
And, in full disclosure, I have not actually been faced with having to actually say those things face to face, in a particular instance that is in my mind. So, I acknowledge that mentally envisioning the apology is easier than having to speak it out loud. And especially if I discovered that what I didn’t listen to or know ended up causing harm. So, just trying to remember my own human frailty too.
Exactly. I am all for people doing that. But it takes humility and that is in very short supply nowadays, seemingly.
And yet, I know that there are family members who will never admit they were wrong and apologize. Ah, the hubris...
So I'm good with social distance from them. Less stress that way.
😂😂 Actually, yes! I have naturally distanced myself from so many--much less stress!
No RJ&RB, I don't think so either. In fact, I know not, because he laid out his plan for bringing them to justice in his substack last Friday. I thought Jeff's comments were well balanced and thoughtful. I was just venting to the woman who wrote the article, who will never see it, but I feel better anyway.
Same
This!! We do not forgive evil. They treated us like scum and killed people we love. They are not repenting they are trying to sweep us under the rug. And those who complied are guilty too. Isn't there some parallel here to the mark of the beast- even if you can't buy or sell DO NOT SELL YOUR SOUL TO THE DEVIL.
Forgiveness must be followed by repentance and a life where the frgiven sins no more. Read Jesus' encounter with the Samaritan woman at the well.
Easy-peasy, name-it-claim-it Christianity conveniently overlooks our Lord's commands to repent and straighten up.
Grace is an undeserved, free gift. But if misused, the recipient may end up being told "Go away from Me, I never knew ye" upon arrival on the other side.
Faith without works is dead. We can't earn salvation, but if we have really been made a new creation by God, we will be steadily seeking to live a life that is pleasing to Him. We ministered to a drug addict who seemingly made a profession of faith. For awhile, he attended church, but his zeal began to flag. He had no desire to read the Bible. Finally, I asked him one day, "do you still want to follow Jesus?" He was indignant. "Why would you ask that?" he said. Well, look at your life . . .
Bless you for trying. That's all we can do ... it is God who provides the increase.
JUSTICE
That's the only way to end this.
Excellent!
To me it feels like her defense is "we were just following orders".
I am pretty sure she was given the task of opening this can of worms to gage its reception. Sorry Emily. Tell your masters we will not forgive or forget till we have justice and it can't happen again.
And even then, I'll be super-slow to forgive, and definitely will never forget. There has been REAL damage done by these overlord transgressions, some of which will NEVER be remedied (deaths) and MAYBE but not for certain can be mitigated (lives destroyed by mental illness brought on by the combo of fear and isolation. I am not 100% certain that some of the drugs involved in the jab are neutral with regard to mental illness, and they may in fact have exacerbated the response.)
Yup--I might ACT like I've forgiven, but I will never forget. Most people I know are now forever in the "do not trust" bucket. Which sucks, and if I were like Emily I would wail about the trauma this is causing poor me, but I'm not, because there is something fundamentally and foundationally different between the two kinds (go-along-to-get-along vs refusers) of person. I don't know what that fundamental thing is or things are, but my eyes are opened and behind my friendliness is an unshakable skepticism, now. Call it the invigorating chill of clear-seeing.
I have a doctor visit (new doctor) tomorrow. I have to go to get her signature on a medical test I need. I can't WAIT until she starts in on the influenza and covid booster jabs. And I am one who used to always (and mistakenly) be first in line for a flu shot. Never again!)
Same here but add that I no longer trust my doctor (and any facility I know of) to administer the requested medication via injection. They lied about it from the beginning, why should I believe them now?They have become such tools of tyranny as to make them very, very dangerous. Killers even.
I totally agree. I can't imagine getting any injection or having to be admitted into a hospital for any reason.
I know a lot of these people. The women are karens and the men are beta cucks. I don't live in fear. They choose to. So they should stay masked up and not leave their homes. Leave the world to the living.
Yup, a trial balloon.
Which now lies in a smoking ruin...
Yes, which PR firm groomed her article?
Not sure. But Randi Weingarten, president of the teachers union, replied to her write up agreeing with her. Randi needs to be tried and removed from ever having contact with any school or child again. She and the union is one of the biggest causes of harm to children and their families. No forgiveness EVER for her and many teachers.
While the writer of the article may be sincere but very misguided, imho Weingarten is posturing to try and regain votes from Democrats and independents in the midterms.
Strongly agree!
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Annie, yup, they'e always temperature testing us..............
Or to try to stop the hemorrhaging of democrat party voters due to this nonsense prior to midterms.
And many were taking big money to pump the jab and vilify those that said
'NOT FOR ME'
It's absurd to the point of being funny. Like the knight in Monty Python's Holy Grail who gets his arms and legs lopped off in a sword fight and quips "alright we'll call it a draw!" No! that's not how it works!
10 points for the Monty Python reference.!
and a free lifetime supply of boosters!
That cracked me up!
I keep hearing, "steals from the poor and gives to the rich... Stupid bittshhhh"
I don't think she even defended herself really. She blamed her failure to see things clearly on her time spent countering disinformation and saving people from injecting themselves with bleach. Then the last thing she says in the article is that we need stronger gov't mandates on childhood vaccines and that people like her need to be a part of fixing these problems that her side caused.
Was injecting bleach ever a real thing? Where did that trope come from anyway?
Jon Stephenson-- The demonizing of the "bleach" scenario was the cabal trying to put the kibosh on "CDS"/ "MMS" (Chlorine Dioxide Solution / Miracle Mineral Solution). Chlorine dioxide has actually been a "suppressed cure" agent for a long time, years before the Covid Operation. Because it's cheap and effective for many things. It was popularized by Jim Humble, then more recently Andreas Kalcker. Kalcker's books on using CDS,, such as "FORBIDDEN HEALTH" were immediately banned by Amazon, but they still sell on ebay and etsy etc, And here's a video link from Kalcker's odysee channel that gives an intro on using CDS for Covid: https://odysee.com/@Kalcker:7/Coronavirus-sub-esp-1:b
It came from a vile, evil distortion of something President Trump said in those daily briefings set up by the snake, Mike Pence.
President Trump kept trying to steer the thinking towards use of other approaches beyond what the SCIENCE was pushing. He mentioned some innovative techniques that were being explored for killing inflammation in the body. One involved using light and one had something to do with the use of bleach in some way. He was saying, we need to look at everything, not just this little dictatorial mindset being pushed here. People needed to stop thinking of the virus as untreatable.
And out of that, the press developed the lie that Trump said people should inject themselves with bleach.
And vile Mike Pence, who had always considered Trump to be inferior, while dreaming of replacing him, just smirked along with the rest.
No it wasn't. It was the equivalent of claiming Sarah Palin said "I can see Russia from my house", which she never said. Here is a politifact article where they have his full quote from an April 2020 coronavirus update press conference.
He never used the word bleach. He was talking about using disinfectant on surfaces which kills the virus and in the next sentence says they need to look into ways they can do something similar with the lungs. Who knows what he was thinking at the time. If I gave him the benefit of the doubt, I would think he was hoping there would be some sort of breathing treatment that would help, but we all know from Dr McCullough that an effective treatment was in fact gargling and nasal rinse with iodine which is a disinfectant.
How much could this virus been countered if public health officials had told people to gargle with listerine instead of washing their hands and advised even saline nasal rinse? We'll never know.
UV light therapy was the disinfectant for the body he was referring to. This therapy is being used in cancer treatments and because some of their tests showed sunlight was effective in killing the virus, Trump suggested using the therapy as a disinfectant for the body. The media twisted “disinfectant” to mean “bleach” and the lie was born.
This is what I remember, exactly.
Exactly. Completely different from the injecting Lysol BS lie that was repeated ad nauseum 🤬
And then you had “horse dewormer” repeated ad infinitum on TV channels. How hysterical! “Horse dewormer!” How much time would it take on Google to find out a Nobel prize was awarded to the scientists who discovered this medication which was then distributed to millions.
Great comment--and it's these 'little' suppressions that veer suspicion away from "oh, people were just ignorant and didn't know what to do; they didn't MEAN to harm" to "yes, there was a deliberate plan, you can call it depopulation or you can call it 'merely a big pharma-big government money-and-power grab, but it was ON PURPOSE." All these effective early treatments being suppressed/contorted/lied about? That was criminal and intentional.
Strongly agree!
But the people at the top didn't want the "pandemic" to end and most doctors followed because their careers would have been jeopardized.
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Thank you for that Palin laugh. I remember that well! Still makes me 😆
Amnesty for crimes that are still being committed??? 🤔
There is a great part in Joe Rogan's interview w/ Dr. Peter McCullough where he talks about how this idea originated from legit virus-killing treatments; the whole interview is worth a watch/listen, it's brilliant.
Joe Rogan interviews Dr Peter McCullough Dec 13, 2021
https://open.spotify.com/episode/0aZte37vtFTkYT7b0b04Qz?si=wCacwGhhS9KlH6tDf1F7MA
Died suddenly: a friend’s relative died suddenly and unexpectedly getting an MRI. Probably vaxxed. Not sick as in an emergency but obviously they were investigation some health complaint. It made me wonder...you have to be so careful about metal in your body when having an MRI. Could there be anything about the make up of the nanoparticles in the vaccine that could cause death by MRI?
The contrast used for MRIs is an extremely toxic element, gadolinium. If it remains in body for any reason, more likely if you are acidic, it can cause problems for rest of your life. Due to fact gadolinium poisoning destroyed my health, I belong to a support group for sufferers. One can get an MRI without contrast which is what the group suggests. People still have issues after MRIs which are believed to be due to redistribution of the highly para-magnetic gadolinium in the body. If your friend had magnetic particles in body due to something in the vax, an MRI could redistribute it in the body. I wouldn't have thought it could kill someone instantly but if a clot had formed around some magnetic element in a vax and then moved to a deadly place, maybe?
I do contrastless MRIs at www.Prenuvo.com
Interesting that any gadolinium from my past mris might be redistributed though. Thank you for sharing and I’m very sorry about your gadolinium injury.
My daughter has had contrast put in her body over 9 times or maybe even 12.
Wow, that's super freaky. Makes sense as a possibility though...
There's no way.... MRIs are super common (I'm really healthy and even i've had several through the years on various injuries) and this would be a constant complaint. There's no way every vaxxed person dying in an MRI would be a correlation that went unnoticed. I mean, I'm pretty sure....
Yes, but you don’t know for sure. And perhaps it depends on how soon after vaccination and could depend where did the particles go in her body.
Also isn’t there a chance that all the vaccines may not have the same thing in them?
I wouldn't rule anything out at this point. :-) It does seem highly unlikely though, right?? Let's at least go with highly unlikely. As in, the COVID vaccine has caused about a million health problems at this point but as of yet has not instantly killed via MRI machines.
I assumed that it was to demonize ANY and ALL preventative treatments, much like the horse de-wormer trope. Also helped reinforce the OrangeManBad TDS theme.
You have got to be kidding me!!! Makes me want to SCREAM in her face and shove the Turtles All the Way Down book at her in regards to that last statement. Oh my gosh!!!
Bingo….and where has that been said before in history?
Bingo!
Yep. Nazi Germany again. Never thought I would see this in my lifetime. History does tend to repeat itself but hitler has not been dead very long. Short memories for the jews who seem to be in favor of demonic dem party.
Even worse, anyone who mentions any similarities with what the Nazis did, is shouted down and called anti-Semitic for even daring to suggest it.
The zealots don't see it. They are enlightened and we are the superspreaders. They are mentally and morally deficient.
I want the doctors who were complicit to apologize. I want the doctors with integrity to be restored and no longer persecuted.
A request for amnesty should be preceded by an abject, sincere, specific apology. I haven’t seen that so I’m withholding amnesty and forgiveness. And I’ll never forget what the Covid devotees have done.
Deb, you are spot on. Forgiveness is given to someone who asks for it, someone who apologizes.
I agree there are many people who went along because they were afraid of the government. However, I think the vast majority went along because back then they trusted the government (CDC, FDA, etc). Now we know better. Now we know these agencies are not trustworthy. And if we can't trust them, then what good are they. We can replace the CDC with an open system database that aggregates medical research and save billions of dollars every year.
It is time to start defunding the federal government in massive meaningful ways.
Do "we" know better? The worst haters were medical staff. They are STILL HATING.
And they killed people in hospitals as a result of that hate.
I lost two friends to hospital murder by Remdesevir and ventilation.
Another dear friend is so, so lost without his wife who was murdered the same way.
Two friends of my neighbor died in the same way. In the video I linked below, two widows share their stories. The second woman's story is particularly egregious. She actually managed to find a doctor who would administer ivermectin to her husband in the hospital. He began to make an amazing recovery, but then another doctor came in and ordered the ivermectin treatment to stop! The poor wife sought help from the court, but was unsuccessful and her husband died. https://thehighwire.com/videos/remdesivir-nightmare-i-absolutely-blame-the-hospital-for-his-death/
I saw that video, it was very upsetting. The doctor who ordered that the ivermectin treatment be stopped despite observing with her own eyes that the man was better after being on it should be charged with deliberate homicide.
Must be held to account!
Being a transplant recipient my doctor insists I get yet another booster. I told him to go jump in the lake. And hope he can't swim :). I truly think he is not informed but just going along with uninformed sources and those sources are medical.
I would say to doctors that are just following the CDC or AMA or whatever, what do I need you for if you are just following their guidance and not individualizing care to my needs?? I can read those organizations’ guidance on their website, I don’t need a go between of a doctor for that!
Somewhere on here I posted a message I wrote to my former physician practice in response to their message urging me to come in for a wellness check. I basically told them I was reluctant to see any doctor who was complicit in giving covid vaccines. I listed the many harms done by healthcare providers both in and out of the hospital. I asked if the hospital system the practice is affiliated with has accepted reality yet. I got a response today; a link to their covid info. I found this jewel in the FAQ section.
"The Pfizer vaccine and the Moderna vaccine use mRNA to instruct the cells in your body to make a harmless piece of the “spike protein” found on the surface of COVID-19. Your immune system is tricked into thinking this is a virus and makes antibodies. A live virus is not included in the vaccine. Your body destroys the mRNA and gets rid of it. It doesn’t stay in your body or alter any DNA. The other ingredients in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are salt, sugar, and fat."
Blood is on their hands.
Wow 😳
Well done Elaine! I would love to see what his face looked like when you told him that!
Many knew exactly what they were doing and persisted. Prison!
Brilliant!
I 100% agree. At the end of her article, you can see her reason for calling for amnesty. She wants to be part of the team who is going to clean up the mess they made. She calls for stronger gov't mandates on childhood vaccines, and I can only assume she like others will be advocating for an army of mental health counselors to collect data and analyze our children like lab mice.
you nailed it. we need to understand the oster article for what it is. the atlantic is targeted to young bluecheck moms. this is a finely crafted message to that very specific demographic to let themselves off the hook and transfer their hostility to the millions of parents who are taking their children off the cdc vaccine schedule.
the article was probably paid for, and maybe written, by the dhs truth ministry. it has nothing to do with us except to encourage the people who demonized us for the past 31 months to continue to do so.
btw the woman who owns the atlantic is big pals with ghislaine maxwell
I think you nailed it. Another purpose of the article is to shift the narrative so as to cushion the backlash and alter the terms of conversation. What may be one of the desired effects is the "opportunity" to demonize all those who do not go along with the so called amnesty.
good point. straw man compromise.
Are these people even redeemable?
I cannot really answer that, but I will say that they should never be allowed in a position of influence again, and in many cases deprived of their ill gotten gains which should then be put in a compensation fund. What's the point of committing a crime, being found guilty and suffering little to no consequences?! Can you imagine Fauci and Birx et.al. repairing to their mansions, pensions and kickbacks intact breathing a sigh of relief having dodged a bullet?
In a word, NO.
she'll find out soon enough
The Atlantic! Ah, the rag that pushed the idea that my holy Rosary is ‘has become a symbol of violent, right-wing extremism in the United States.’
I was expecting a squad of FBI thugs to burst in my house demanding my sacramentals.
https://bailiwicknews.substack.com/p/about-the-emily-oster-piece-in-the
Thanks for the link.
Like the whole mass formation theory...no longer are they able to point to covid as the source for anxiety...now they can point to those who desire justice from the debacle, and those who no longer trust the healthcare system, to be the culprit for their anxiety issues.
These people are sick.
Abject, sincere, specific apology AND resignation of those that violated rights and took cash to conduct a vilification campaign of those who had another point of view about covid.
A reminder of some of the WORST Covid tyrants-
https://odysee.com/@Paper_Jesus:5/fluvid19:6
Fascists every one of them.
So much hate and intolerance for the unjabbed….wow!
Imagine losing your job, then having your extended family turn on you, then your partner has a clot induced stroke, now your child has a 4 foot blood clot removed from her leg. These things are real, they have happened to real people. If they feel outrage and a desire for retribution can you really blame them....?
Ok my mistake...I read FROM the unjabbed...rather than FOR
.....multitasking has it's consequences.
Happens to us all. Glad you caught it. :)
Add "reparations" "ammends" or "returning what you stole."
We need to be made whole, and as my 4 family businesses were functionally bankrupted and sold off to the "perps" and my only child, a daughter was forced/coerced into taking an experimental gene therapy which may disable, kill, sterilize, or gene modify her, and her children, I know I cannot be made whole in this lifetime.
Also there isn't one decent Doctor left alive and in practice it appears. Only shills for pHarma....
So no. It's not time for amnesty. It's time for JUSTICE.
Nuremberg Trials!!!
From what I am able to ascertain, multiple crimes were committed. Multiple infractions upon citizens civil liberties occurred. Feelings aside these must be investigated and given the full process they are due. In my opinion, the above are not "mistakes" and the often used excuse 'we never could have known' is simply an attempts to avoid accountability. People are getting sick from the "treatments". People are dying suddenly and unexpectedly at unheard of rates. Children are succumbing to heart attacks and strokes. By all means heal the divisions wherever possible, but this is not and will never be a substitute for justice.
Hear, hear!
FedUpDeb... absolutely! And an abject, sincere apology, actually sincere soul depth reflection, the actions will speak much louder than mere words... an abject sincere apology would include the billions of fortunes from the pharmaceutical execs down to institutions and fund mangers and individual doctors who made money investing in the jabs voluntarily ADMITTING PUBLICLY the resulting damages and inexcusable deaths and injuries, voluntarily consigning all (blood) money to the victims and families of victims... INCLUDING... the damages for forced bankruptcies due to unnecessary business closures. THAT’S a true, abject, sincere apology....
I want more than that. Stop every single mandate, reinstate the fired, totally stop giving these toxic shots, compensate the vaccine injured, allow the good doctors to freely practice medicine, quit the propaganda, and just for the fun of it, impeach Biden.
Apologies ... and PUNISHMENT, and RESTITUTION. The three legs of the stool of Justice.
And they have to help work to put safeguards in place so this can never happen again!!
There should be some trials and prison terms.
I think my distaste for Oster is her saying the people who were right got lucky. That’s BS! We weren’t lucky. We dug for information, researched, and used common sense! There was no “luck” involved. I take great offense to someone who thinks she is superior to the rest of us, who classifies my rational, God given ability to discern right from wrong as getting lucky. Pppffftttt. She needs to take responsibility and stop hiding behind “we didn’t know”. No, you didn’t know because you didn’t want to know. You chose to not know! The rest of us chose to know. The rest of us took steps to find out. The rest of us used skills and critical thinking to choose correctly. The rest of us stood against enormous discrimination and loss of livelihoods, being treated horribly by family, friends, co-workers, grocery stores, doctors offices, etc etc etc to stand up because WE KNEW!
Exactly. I spent an enormous amount of time and energy researching everything I could get my hands on. I'm STILL researching and I'll probably have to for the rest of my life. Luck had absolutely nothing to do with it. Maybe someone can gaslight her by claiming she was given her educational degrees & awards through LUCK! Just like a lottery ticket winner!
You bring up a good point! All of the education and studying she did to earn her degrees or whatever she has attained…..she would be offended if we told her it was pure luck. 😂 🙄
Quote Obama back to her, she didn’t build that.
Yup, that clown Scott Adams said the same a few months ago. They can’t admit to themselves they were duped because they failed to critically think and accepted the narrative at face value. “Only stupid gullible people do that, not us elites. “
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻YES!!! We knew! I was grateful that I own my own business, I deal with the public and I never stopped working. My daughter (special needs) works in a grocery store, I thank God for the Supreme Court ruling so she didn’t have to get jabbed. Feel God guided us to the information we needed, including this C&C platform. Jeff you kept me and my sister (also not vaxed) sane! Our daily read, along with other publications, saved us, we realized we weren’t alone.
Or they knew, and agreed with the greater aim of depopulation. And shared that love for absolute power over others.
Spot on! I think that was Jeff’s point as well. There’s a difference between what you just described and ones who just didn’t do the research or use critical thinking skills, who changed course at some point (even up to yesterday and including tomorrow and the next day) and see the truth and accept the truth. No amnesty. That’s like (and this is a poor example) drunk driving and killing someone and then standing on the street corner (rather than facing your crime in court) saying I’m sorry I bought a car. No. Let’s get specific. No blanket fake apology where you don’t really acknowledge specifics and hide behind your four year old sons misguided behavior 🙄. Take responsibility. These were egregious crimes against real people.
And we tried to tell THEM, but they wouldn't listen. I am still trying to educate people. I offered to lend Peter McCullough's book to a Bible teacher at my church, who stated in his class that vaccine injuries are rare. He declined to read it. His reason is that this has been so divisive and he doesn't want to get involved. He is vaccinated.
I saw that too. I can never get back the hours I spent researching this stuff. The hours I have spent telling my parents not to get the shots, getting yelled at by my brother to follow the science. Recently when he crowed about being all vaxxed up I told him he was an idiot. He didn’t know what to say. 🤣
So no, it’s not luck it’s using my brain and doing my homework. I am not brilliant but obviously I can research and learn. And arm myself with what will help me and my husband should The Covid hit. Or any virus actually.
Forgiveness, not much. Pitty is more like it, I pitty them their ignorance, fear and willingness to go along.
To the elites, I will never forgive or extend pitty, I hope they all go to jail. Koolaid Doctors, Big Pharma, Fauchi et all, can all go to hell.
Exactly!
Jason A Clark-- lol, I love your muppet gif alias image, he he.......
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Sadly, like me, just following dictate from my uninformed Dr. Thank heaven I have survived.
Yes. Thank you for adding this to the conversation. I do understand not everybody understood what they were doing to us at the same time. We also need to extend grace to ones who it took longer to see and discern what was happening. Again, there was no “luck” in you seeing the truth of this. At some point you were willing to see the truth and accept it. You didn’t choose to blindly keep following, even if it took a little longer than some others. What Jeff said is true. We do need to welcome and celebrate anyone that sees and responds to the truth. That is excellent! Welcome! And I’m glad you survived. 😊
Agree.
You NAILED it !! WE question EVERYTHING and do the RESEARCH for answers.
The research I mostly did was about who is behind this and why? I feel it involved looking into the abyss and knowing the evil humanity is capable of. Most of the rest was common sense. I researched at first to be able to provide information to others but quickly learned that wasn't going to work. Then spent time learning a lot about law as that seemed the best way to actually fight this (How I found C&C). I now believe this is a spiritual battle and understanding the nature of that and praying and asking how can I best do my part became more important to me than research.
When I prayed about taking vax (I already knew no but just asked anyway), I was overcome with such a sense of revulsion that I almost threw up. I know I will die before I would take it.
A-freaking-men! Preach!
💯
Exactly!
If the people like Oster are truly apologetic, they should be stepping back on their soap boxes and standing up for people like Dr. McCullough, currently being stripped of his credentials (https://www.independentsentinel.com/dr-peter-mccullough-stripped-of-all-board-certifications-for-wrongspeak/). A vapid mea culpa in the rag known as the Atlantic is not enough. Actions speak louder than words.
Yes. What about Dr McCullough? I hope he gets his revenge.My physician husband says medicine has become one of the most corrupt entities on the planet. Follow the money reigns suppreme. Sadly
Who knew that a full blown fascist and deadly agenda would come to us through the medical system. We've been taught to look for a single charismatic leader who people blindly follow rather than
public health orders people blindly follow.
YES!!!!!!
Absolutely very good point!
She should use her platform and voice as a megaphone to call for national repentance and restitution! Excellent point!
Except she is not capable of that. At least not yet. Maybe someday? Based on her call for amnesty she doesn’t really want to accept responsibility specifically for her part/their part. Amnesty is a very general act. We can and need to forgive. That’s biblical. That’s what Jesus did for us before we even thought to ask for it. While we were still sinners Christ died for us. However, there is also a law of sowing and reaping we all have to contend with in the natural. There are consequences in the natural when we commit offenses against others. There is a reckoning that needs to happen. It doesn’t happen with a general blanket admission that it wasn’t really their fault because they didn’t get “lucky” like others. I can forgive someone who doesn’t ask for that, but I don’t have to resolve that they get a pass either.
There was no mea culpa!
She said “forgive each other”
She is asking the rapist to forgive the raped. Sorry to be so blunt.
Yup exactly. Empty words do nothing for me or anyone else harmed by the actions of Emily and people of her ilk.
If these people are “victims”, They are willing victims. I had the balls to stand up against my family and many of my friends and most of society. It wasn’t easy or fun. They were either cowards or stupid. Sorry to sound so harsh, but I am sick of all this. Our business was down 50% and still has not Recovered completely. So screw Emily and her Ilk.
I agree 100%. Almost all of us who refused to give in had to do so in the face of extreme criticism and often at great cost. The evidence that masks wouldn't work was there for anyone who looked for it. The evidence that the vac hadn't been tested was in plain view. People chose to not look.
Agree. Where is the 'sincere and abject apology' from the university I quit teaching at bc I would not mask, vax, or test? I was in no financial position to try it 'my way' and get fired and then sue; I had to move on. I am the only one in my department who found the mandates absurd/scientifically unsound/harmful. Everyone else just turned into a zombie, stupidly shrugging all "well, we are in a pandemic after all, who are you to question any of the reactions to it?"
If these people were truly sorry, you would be compensated for what they did to you. I don't see any help forthcoming for you or the vaccine injured, those whose businesses were crushed, doctors whose medical licenses have been taken, those whose loved ones were killed in hospitals or by the vaccines, etc.
Oh yeah, believe me, I'm not waiting around for any contrition/apology/etc. But the whole thing of Emily's "oh, we were so unkind to each other" without being able to state the concrete nature of those unkindnesses, as you have named some above? As if it was all just a matter of being 'uncivil' and 'bad-mannered' and--oh, the libs hate this one--'emotional and even therefore irrational'? Just gross. Squishy liberal grossness. (I know, it's not just libs, it's not a left right thing, but right now the libs do it best, flexing the emotional maturity of a 2-year-old.)
I'm so sorry for your trials. Praying for you. 😔
Amen!
Excellent analysis of the Oster situation.
God help me, but I have no pity for Chef Julie who smugly cheered for the deaths of the unvaxxed filth. She was so consumed with hatred that she felt comfortable expressing her absolute contempt for fellow human beings. I don't wish people like her or Howard Stern, Keith Olbermann, and Jimmy Kimmel harm, but absolutely no tears will be shed for them should they succumb to a vaxxident.
Yes, once such sentiment is expressed......... let the chips fall where they may.
May she rest in peace.
And your list is a good one, but may I add Stephen Colbert? He another one !
Absolutely colbert! And people like Jennifer Anniston who openly bragged about ending friendships with people because they disagreed
Yep, this list might be somewhat bottomless, I'm afraid!
That was a chilling, Stephen King-level, tweet.
Steven King...another jab shill...
Let’s keep it simple, you ainti-vaxxers: You have a right to kill yourself, whether with booze, cigarettes, chew, or high living. You do not have the right to kill others by spreading a virus. That’s not freedom, it’s selfishness.
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https://twitter.com/stephenking/status/1437172664821600262?lang=en
I forgot that. A ‘friend’ posted a meme of a fat lazy, wife beater T shirt wearing, beer drinking MAGA slob. The wording ‘I’m not going to inject that poison into my body’ 🤣🤣🤣 the ‘friend’ truly believed that. She also thinks we’ll go back to the 50’s if we vote in a republican. 🤣 You know, its all about abortion... the irony.
Kind of ironic that the abortion fanatics are obsessive about forcing vaccines to "save lives." There's rather a huge disconnect right there.
And weird in the political commercials right now. Young mothers with children are pro abortion, and talk about the importance of family. A disconnect much? 🤷♀️
The comments on his post are exactly why there is no forgetting this.
oh my gosh, I know.......!?!? I had no idea until Jeff's post, that that food writer who died, outrightly wanted covid-injection-free DEAD. What a ghoul !!! I wonder if her upbringing was full of dark things....
Rabbitgurl, this is precisely what Vera Sharav, who survived the Holocaust, has been warning about. Once people are hypnotized into believing that some group is "unclean," it is easy to wish them dead, or even to kill them. I've seen numerous hateful wishes for people like myself to die. The perpetrators of this plandemic are trying to divide people and make them think the unvaccinated, who did not comply, are a danger to society.
I had watched one of Jordan Peterson's college lectures a few years back. In it, he showed a clip of early Nazi propaganda against Jews. It was about public health and that Jews because they lived in ghettos were dirty and more likely to spread disease. It wasn't sophisticated by today's standards but kept panning between pictures of orthodox Jews and roaches crawling up the wall. Dr Peterson explained to the class that the Nazis were intentionally triggering people disgust reflex and then associating it to Jews.
In an ironic twist, one of her tweets slammed republicans for being run by fear.
I agree. But still shake my head because I just don’t get how they could do it.
This past three years has been a master learning experience in human behavior. Before this, I just didn't understand how truly vicious and horrible so many people could be. I've also seen how deeply good some people can be. Covid has really shown a clear divide between the good and the bad in the human race. Dennis Prager often says "Humanity sucks, but there are a few good people." He is correct in this.
We have to watch out for the convenient interchangeability of illnesses. When they say Flu, I ask myself just how they are coming to that determination exactly. Is Flu a convenient cover for something else? After all of the fudged definitions, tests, diagnoses, we know very well that a cover story does not necessarily mean what it purports to mean.
Yes! When the flu totally disappears for a year, and magically comes back, there's obvious shenanigans. It's like the 'long covid' scam as a cover for vaxxx injuries.
This seems to be the next great narrative. Long COVID is the new safe and effective. Berenson tweeted an excellent concise refutation of this today. Australia, , which really didn’t have any COVID until this year, is seeing the same excess mortality as other highly vaxxed places. Personally, I’d love to see the excess mortality stats in the low vaxxed African countries, just like COVID deaths, I bet it is very low.
It is very low in African countries. I did not save the chart. But it’s very obvious.
Exactly!! Not believing a word coming out of current mainstream health reporting at this point.
And remember, there was apparently absolutely no flu while covid was "raging." Now it's back and it's really bad! Get the flu vaccine quickly!
I think perhaps you are correct.
or mayhap another lab leak? I know they have that stronger 'vid that kills 80% just waiting in the wings to be 'leaked'...
Great job on this Jeff. The part that has been hardest for me is the assumption by the "other side" that I was stupid in making choices counter to the prevailing opinion. My decision was based on experience and education but the information was readily available. And skepticism had to necessarily overtake fear.
I keep remembering how in January or February 2020 my then 24yo daughter asked me what I thought of this virus thing and I replied, “There’s something fishy about it.” Fast forward a few months and years…boy howdy, was there ever.
I was taught to never trust anything coming out of China. So, although our family was concerned a bit at first, although more for our elderly parents than ourselves, and we were relieved to be pandemic homeschooling (that’s another story due to school incompetence and not the virus), we were not surprised as we started hearing some of our “alternative” health people talking about the real nature of the virus and its risks. We actually were naive enough initially to imagine that now, at last, public health would start paying attention to and talking about vitamin D and insulin resistance. 🤣🤣🤣
Yes! We certainly weren't just "lucky" guessers!!
Absolutely! Anyone who passed sixth grade science could tell you that a cloth mask would not prevent tiny particles of "covid" from leaving your mouth. I mean, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that out. It wasn't luck. It was common sense and a passing look at history. Power given is not easily relinquished.
Sixth grade when? RIGHT!!!!! I contacted my college bio Prof and asked him what he thought of it. He said he was "not a virologist". I had alot of respect for him until that moment, well not true, he believes in evolution. Ding ding ding ding....red bell alarms! I thought im just an art major and passed eighth grade science i KNEW it was all FISHY! MASKING for VIRUS full stop! 🤣 They cant even stop an invasion of birds, fish, beetles, mussels, ....
SHUT UP!
lol, you just made me laugh out loud, no, not a lucky guess omg. !!!
I agree with what you are sharing. I never spent so much time on anything else as I did on the jabs, mask studies, etc. Thank God I found Jeff, Dr. McCullough, et. al. early on. Yet I had brilliant family members who took the jab. I have wondered so very often what the difference was? While there probably where many reasons, I boil it down to trust in medicine and skepticism. From an early age I have disliked going to the doctor, taking medicine, and taking vaccines. My family members have always lined up for the flu vaccine, given the whole childhood set of jabs to their children, etc. They trusted the doctors - not government - and took the jabs. I pray for their health now and in the future.
I did buy the snake oil for a short time…as in, wore a mask to the store, etc. As a rule follower, I tend to be too trusting and not analytical enough. So I am also thankful I found voices of reason to steer me on to the right path.
I wore masks to the store at first and I knew better. I told myself I was doing it so the young adults working there wouldn't have to deal with me, but it was more an excuse for my cowardice.
My daughter was working in a convenience store at the time and was supposed to make people wear masks. They were building Trump's wall nearby and once the wall workers were staying in town, it changed. None of them wore masks and she and her coworkers had to let them. #Power in Numbers
I wish I could go back and UNwear them. Ugh.
Methinks you'll have another chance to rebel against the masking here in the future - you can make up for it then:)
Currently seeking treatment at Cleveland Clinic. Made it through long hallways and lobbies without one…until I got to the radiology desk where there was a mask nazi. Even a doctor came in the exam room and told me he was sure glad I wasn’t wearing a mask then he pulled his down!
I will confess that I followed those stupid arrows in the store aisles for awhile, but not because I thought it made any difference. Just trying to avoid being cursed out, I suppose.
I must confess if I realized I was following the arrow I turned around and went the other way. 😈😅
Haha, we all have to choose which hill to die on. It all seems so stupid now. Putting on a mask to walk to the table in the restaurant, where it was then safe to take it off. Don't forget to put it back on if you have to go to the restroom!
So did I! I like you!!!!
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Rebel!
You and I have had the same experiences. It has been hard. So grateful to have been introduced to C&C and this community of like-minded readers.
All you need is common sense and critical thinking skills. It was so obvious that something wasn't right. We researched and learned. Make common sense common again!
Naomi Wolf has an excellent piece on her October 31st substack titled : A Lost Small Town, Running Errands in the Wake of Emotional Violence, USA. I highly recommend reading or listening to it. She accurately describes what so many of us have been feeling for the past 2 1/2 years.
Emily Oster and her fellow misguided covidiots would have had no problem seeing me and mine sent to quarantine camps because we didn't submit to this evil. My nieces were afraid it might come to the point they would try to take their children from them. I for one will not forgive or forget. At least not until they fully accept that they were this horrible. They were okay, regardless of the reason why, with the vilification of their fellow human beings. Total lack of empathy for another's views and body autonomy. They are mentally ill and need to address that. Yeah. Not falling for the kumbaya crap.
I'm needing to hear an apology from a "rabid medical professional" who argued that a mask could stop a virus. I.know that if you can smell through a piece of cloth, a virus can travel through it also. Only thing a mask can stop is bacteria from particles in spit. That's why they wear them in the operating room.
Or why you needed to mask up but as soon as you sat down to eat, it was OK. What stupid logic and the covidiots fell for that.
When you sit at the table, you are in the magic virus-free zone. There's a force field that prevents the virus from getting to tables.
Yes. 😄 right beside the rainbow and unicorn. Lol 😅 😆 one magic virus. 😉
I finally found a local labcorp that doesn’t require masks - seriously could not get a blood test at others because I refused to mask.they are still arguing
And i have also read that it is to protect the wearer from bodily fluids coming from the patient!
We all need an apology that means something.
In other words, while we didn’t get any final resolution from the Court, future lawsuits remain possible, if symptoms recur. It’s fine.
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I beg to differ. They should have heard the case and made a decision.
The Plaintiffs spent boatloads of cash in filings to do what they should not have to do...protect their constitutional rights.
They will have to spend boatloads of cash AGAIN if the government decides to violate those rights.
I'd rather the Court take up the affirmative action case. That's much more important.
Chuckle.
It depends on that particular case. If it was weak and would have resulted in a decision that would allow masking to continue, then it is good they withheld. I had heard that the Justices sometimes wait for a case that specifically speaks to the point needed to be made via the Constitution.
Couple of points: 1. Emily Oster did not ask for forgiveness 2. She advocated for employers vax mandates 3. She advocated for students vax mandates 4. She advocated against religious exemptions to vax
Wow, thanks for this background info as I don’t follow her. Hard pass on amnesty.
Scroll down into this post for screenshots of Emily’s tweets: https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/dissecting-the-deceptive-plea-for
I read this article and agree with him.
Agree.