Yet COVID is very real. I have read to many peer reviewed reports, talked to to many in the medical field, and watched what COVID itself did to members of my own family, and myself, when I finally contracted it. (The spike, in the virus or the vaccine, is going to spike - cause a wide variety of harms despite a low CFR) However yes, the "vaccines' are, in my perspective, proving more deadly.
Yet COVID is very real. I have read to many peer reviewed reports, talked to to many in the medical field, and watched what COVID itself did to members of my own family, and myself, when I finally contracted it. (The spike, in the virus or the vaccine, is going to spike - cause a wide variety of harms despite a low CFR) However yes, the "vaccines' are, in my perspective, proving more deadly.
Covid is real, but doctors realized early on that it was treatable. Our government suppressed that knowledge in favor of the money-making "vaccines." Dr. Peter McCullough, and others, estimate that 80% or more of so-called covid deaths could have been prevented had these people received appropriate early treatment. What we have seen, and are still seeing, is a series of crimes against humanity.
Is it real? Or do the studies use the data supplied by false PCR tests, given to us by known liars, implemented by those who profitted from the scam?
According to CDC death data, in 2017 there were 2,813,503 total deaths (234,000/month), 2018 2,839,205 (237,000/month), 2019 2,855,00 (238,000/month) and in 2020 2,838,000 (236,000/month) AND they claimed that flu deaths had all but disappeared.
Frankly, most of the deaths that were attributed to "covid" were mainly due to the killer treatments.
I supposedly had it, too, in Aug of 202, yet I'm typing this to you at this moment. Not dead.
So, if the only proof we have is bogus test methodology and sickness that may be many things other than the faked "covid", I am not convinced it is real.
The spike, vaccine or COVID, is a pathogen. Yes, the COVID CFR is low. The peer review pathology reports are real. The sincere, against the jab medical professionals I know, also know COVID is real. Your personal antidote regarding still alive after COVID could, of course, be stated by some 200 million Americans that took the jab.
Neither I nor my wife were vaccinated. She got COVID (positive antigen) symptoms she never had before including complete overnight hearing loss in one ear. I caught it two days later.
I had three symptoms I never had with a flu. Extreme pain in an old injury, my arms went completely numb whenever I was active and a COVID rash on my back. (All better after 3 days) Also all in the literature for COVID.
You are, of course, free to think it is not real, yet IMV it is not beneficial to the skeptical movement, as we get lumped into any possible poorly reasoned skeptical corner possible.
It may be real, or it may be a myriad of other ailments painted as covid, is my point, flu being but one (and a major one since it disappeared conveniently. The reported deaths by "experts" surrounding whatever it is, is suspect (I listed the numbers). As a matter of fact, every aspect of this thing is suspect. As for literature for covid, it seems that covid has every possible ailment and side effect known to man associated with it. That, in and of itself, is convenient.
So, you are free to believe that covid is real, yet IMV it is not beneficial to ending the tyranny by falling in line with the official narrative, when there are so many lies associated. I just am not sure and doubt it greatly because every aspect is nothing but lies. Why wouldn't its very existence be a lie?
Because real science from folk like Doctor Monroe, and Dr Cole, and dozens of brave others, that often risked their careers, well articulate why it is real, and why the real spike is a pathogen, and sincere apolitical medical professionals, OBSERVE it is real, and folk like me witness that reality. You end the tyranny by attacking its root cause...https://open.substack.com/pub/anderdaa7/p/does-absolute-power-corrupt?r=slvym&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
There are as many others who suggest that the thing is not real. That even viruses are not real. When I tried countless times to get your people (Kirsch, Malone, et al) to debate those that doubt, all I hear is obfuscation and watch them run away using the same authoritative straw men you use.
The truth is that Malone is one subset of the establishment. His history shows such and his entire career depends upon staying the course (who will ever deny the thing that butters/buttered their bread).
There is one thing that kills this dead, and that is the admission that it is not real. Everything else is just kabuki. Everything else perpetuates the ruse.
You are asking me to doubt my own observations and rely on your chosen authoritative brand. I am not saying what appears to me to be the absolute answer, but there is enough lies to suggest that Malone and Cole are wrong about the covid pathogen, even tho they are correct that the kill jab is a bioweapon.
Its a theory, that to me, is just as valid as the one you are choosing.
The entire "covid" theory depends upon it being real. Every mandate, mask, shutdown, EVERYTHING depends upon its realness. If you ever start to think it is not real, then you get the same type of rhetoric you are spewing. Isn't that a coincidence? Which is the same type of stuff you get from "officials". Their game dies when we realize it was faked. The miraculous disappeared flu, with another name and a crappy test.
The crappy test, the death with COVID as to from COVID, these are very supportable, and the Dr Coles of the world all agree. If you can only convince a very small percentage of the most successful skeptics, (those in your court) your impact on the MSM narrative supporters will be nill.
"I know some people want to believe viruses are not real. It would be comforting. I applaud everyone who questions assumptions, but not those who don’t want to learn any genetics or virology. There are billion observations that can’t be explained with the hypothesis that viruses don’t exist. I just keep pointing at the data. Isn’t that what science is?
Viruses have been isolated genetically, antigenically, with electron microscopes, and in functional plaque assays millions of times. The requirement that someone must also isolate them molecularly is an anachronistic, semantic, expensive and irrelevant point.
We don’t have to isolate a box of pure computer virus to know that computer viruses exist.
We can only make copies of viruses by putting them in cells which use all the same chemical elements and much of the same coding and proteins. Separating out the viruses from 100,000 similar chemicals to get purity is possible but expensive and scientifically pointless.
We isolate them with plaque assays, antibody tests, electron micrographs, PCR analysis, contact tracing, symptoms, blood tests for D-Dimer, Cytokines, blood oxy levels, etc etc etc. We do binding tests on various subparts of the virus with ACE2 TMPRSS2 and nuclear transport proteins, etc etc etc. See Nextstrain to get some idea of how much data they can’t explain. (Mouseover and then double click the dots on Nextstrain to see more data).
There’s a billion observations that already fit the hypothesis that viruses are real. The hypothesis that all viruses are fake explains none of them…
How is it false. The government is pushing the narrative that covid is real, while hiding the flu data (https://wherearethenumbers.substack.com/p/playing-hide-and-seek-with-the-flu), saying it is non-existent. It just so happens that you and many others are in lock step with that narrative. It IS a government narrative, obviously.
And most of these vaunted people you are referencing make the living off of the lie that covid/viruses are real. Again, who is going to deny the butter on their bread?
There is a narrative that the sky is blue. The government also states the sky is blue. I also believe the sky to be blue, and have long before the government affirmed that observation.
The Government has harmed many people. So, my affirmation that the sky is blue does not mean I support the government harming people.
Many suffered great harm to their careers to fight the government response to COVID, including the vaccines.
Yet COVID is very real. I have read to many peer reviewed reports, talked to to many in the medical field, and watched what COVID itself did to members of my own family, and myself, when I finally contracted it. (The spike, in the virus or the vaccine, is going to spike - cause a wide variety of harms despite a low CFR) However yes, the "vaccines' are, in my perspective, proving more deadly.
Covid is real, but doctors realized early on that it was treatable. Our government suppressed that knowledge in favor of the money-making "vaccines." Dr. Peter McCullough, and others, estimate that 80% or more of so-called covid deaths could have been prevented had these people received appropriate early treatment. What we have seen, and are still seeing, is a series of crimes against humanity.
Anne, yep, I think well over 90 percent could have been prevented...
https://anderdaa7.substack.com/p/covid-policy-2020-vs-2023-and-prophylactics
Is it real? Or do the studies use the data supplied by false PCR tests, given to us by known liars, implemented by those who profitted from the scam?
According to CDC death data, in 2017 there were 2,813,503 total deaths (234,000/month), 2018 2,839,205 (237,000/month), 2019 2,855,00 (238,000/month) and in 2020 2,838,000 (236,000/month) AND they claimed that flu deaths had all but disappeared.
Frankly, most of the deaths that were attributed to "covid" were mainly due to the killer treatments.
I supposedly had it, too, in Aug of 202, yet I'm typing this to you at this moment. Not dead.
So, if the only proof we have is bogus test methodology and sickness that may be many things other than the faked "covid", I am not convinced it is real.
But the KILL SHOTS are very real.
They killed my brother in law with Remdesivir and a ventilator so I believe the delayed “treatment” was also weaponized.
The spike, vaccine or COVID, is a pathogen. Yes, the COVID CFR is low. The peer review pathology reports are real. The sincere, against the jab medical professionals I know, also know COVID is real. Your personal antidote regarding still alive after COVID could, of course, be stated by some 200 million Americans that took the jab.
Neither I nor my wife were vaccinated. She got COVID (positive antigen) symptoms she never had before including complete overnight hearing loss in one ear. I caught it two days later.
I had three symptoms I never had with a flu. Extreme pain in an old injury, my arms went completely numb whenever I was active and a COVID rash on my back. (All better after 3 days) Also all in the literature for COVID.
You are, of course, free to think it is not real, yet IMV it is not beneficial to the skeptical movement, as we get lumped into any possible poorly reasoned skeptical corner possible.
It may be real, or it may be a myriad of other ailments painted as covid, is my point, flu being but one (and a major one since it disappeared conveniently. The reported deaths by "experts" surrounding whatever it is, is suspect (I listed the numbers). As a matter of fact, every aspect of this thing is suspect. As for literature for covid, it seems that covid has every possible ailment and side effect known to man associated with it. That, in and of itself, is convenient.
So, you are free to believe that covid is real, yet IMV it is not beneficial to ending the tyranny by falling in line with the official narrative, when there are so many lies associated. I just am not sure and doubt it greatly because every aspect is nothing but lies. Why wouldn't its very existence be a lie?
Because real science from folk like Doctor Monroe, and Dr Cole, and dozens of brave others, that often risked their careers, well articulate why it is real, and why the real spike is a pathogen, and sincere apolitical medical professionals, OBSERVE it is real, and folk like me witness that reality. You end the tyranny by attacking its root cause...https://open.substack.com/pub/anderdaa7/p/does-absolute-power-corrupt?r=slvym&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
"Real science", huh?
There are as many others who suggest that the thing is not real. That even viruses are not real. When I tried countless times to get your people (Kirsch, Malone, et al) to debate those that doubt, all I hear is obfuscation and watch them run away using the same authoritative straw men you use.
The truth is that Malone is one subset of the establishment. His history shows such and his entire career depends upon staying the course (who will ever deny the thing that butters/buttered their bread).
There is one thing that kills this dead, and that is the admission that it is not real. Everything else is just kabuki. Everything else perpetuates the ruse.
You are asking me to doubt my own observations and rely on your chosen authoritative brand. I am not saying what appears to me to be the absolute answer, but there is enough lies to suggest that Malone and Cole are wrong about the covid pathogen, even tho they are correct that the kill jab is a bioweapon.
Its a theory, that to me, is just as valid as the one you are choosing.
The entire "covid" theory depends upon it being real. Every mandate, mask, shutdown, EVERYTHING depends upon its realness. If you ever start to think it is not real, then you get the same type of rhetoric you are spewing. Isn't that a coincidence? Which is the same type of stuff you get from "officials". Their game dies when we realize it was faked. The miraculous disappeared flu, with another name and a crappy test.
The crappy test, the death with COVID as to from COVID, these are very supportable, and the Dr Coles of the world all agree. If you can only convince a very small percentage of the most successful skeptics, (those in your court) your impact on the MSM narrative supporters will be nill.
"I know some people want to believe viruses are not real. It would be comforting. I applaud everyone who questions assumptions, but not those who don’t want to learn any genetics or virology. There are billion observations that can’t be explained with the hypothesis that viruses don’t exist. I just keep pointing at the data. Isn’t that what science is?
Viruses have been isolated genetically, antigenically, with electron microscopes, and in functional plaque assays millions of times. The requirement that someone must also isolate them molecularly is an anachronistic, semantic, expensive and irrelevant point.
We don’t have to isolate a box of pure computer virus to know that computer viruses exist.
We can only make copies of viruses by putting them in cells which use all the same chemical elements and much of the same coding and proteins. Separating out the viruses from 100,000 similar chemicals to get purity is possible but expensive and scientifically pointless.
We isolate them with plaque assays, antibody tests, electron micrographs, PCR analysis, contact tracing, symptoms, blood tests for D-Dimer, Cytokines, blood oxy levels, etc etc etc. We do binding tests on various subparts of the virus with ACE2 TMPRSS2 and nuclear transport proteins, etc etc etc. See Nextstrain to get some idea of how much data they can’t explain. (Mouseover and then double click the dots on Nextstrain to see more data).
There’s a billion observations that already fit the hypothesis that viruses are real. The hypothesis that all viruses are fake explains none of them…
https://joannenova.com.au/2022/06/weekend-unthreaded-417/#comment-2561474
https://joannenova.com.au/2022/06/thursday-open-thread-107/#comment-2560722
You may need to read other sources than the standard "support the government narrative" sources.
And no, there are no viruses isolated, given to a person, where that person developed the supposed illness.
And I might need to point out that, yes, a computer "virus" can be isolated, put into a computer to make the computer sick.
You have marginalized the vast majority of the anti COVID anti shot movement with your
“ supporters of the Government narrative “
This is a completely false assertion to the vast majority of the skeptical professionals who are brave and courageous.
You know little of what I have read, and apparently little about the movers and shakers having an impact on the tyrannical COVID policy dictators.
While you are welcome to your perspective, it is only USED by the PTB to marginalize those who risked, and in many cases lost their careers.
How is it false. The government is pushing the narrative that covid is real, while hiding the flu data (https://wherearethenumbers.substack.com/p/playing-hide-and-seek-with-the-flu), saying it is non-existent. It just so happens that you and many others are in lock step with that narrative. It IS a government narrative, obviously.
And most of these vaunted people you are referencing make the living off of the lie that covid/viruses are real. Again, who is going to deny the butter on their bread?
There is a narrative that the sky is blue. The government also states the sky is blue. I also believe the sky to be blue, and have long before the government affirmed that observation.
The Government has harmed many people. So, my affirmation that the sky is blue does not mean I support the government harming people.
Many suffered great harm to their careers to fight the government response to COVID, including the vaccines.
BTW, government policy 2020 vs 2023 is very different, They now minimize COVID, to protect the failed vaccines.https://anderdaa7.substack.com/p/covid-policy-2020-vs-2023-and-prophylactics