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Jim Olson's avatar

I can’t fathom how “drag” is somehow less offensive and demeaning than “blackface.” Both feature people not part of a particular group making fun of that group.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Similar to the cries of Cultural Appropriation if we dress up as cowboys and indians.

But men acting as women? The ultimate appropriation to steal a whole gender class...

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Annie's avatar

Also it is not enough for the Florida department of education to call that school. They should spend an unannounced week at that school and school district to see what else those groomers are up to. That district is rotten to the core. Don't trust the administration and teachers to not go underground with their perversion.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Excellent. Bust these groomer networks.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That is an excellent idea!

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Jay Skywatcher's avatar

There is an old saying something about a rolling donut.

Maybe that's what the drag guys want since they don't like real women except to play on their sports teams?

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Florida Grown's avatar

From urbandictionary.com, a Donut is An individual whom is extremely stupid. Lacks intelligence and common sense. Somebody who does something incredibly stupid. An idiot.

“Drag and Donuts”

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RunningLogic's avatar

Maybe why Homer Simpson has that donut association 😆

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randall stoehr's avatar

Ever been in Mid-town Manhattan on a Monday morning?

Coffee regula (cream and sugar) and donuts are an absolute human fuel source.

Every 100 yds is an American store front treasure trove of carbs and caffeine carry out.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Wow, who knew?

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Dr Linda's avatar

I love the definition.

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Lincoln's avatar

Really...THIRD YEAR...Orlando’s Boone High School...

A “Drag and Donuts” event set to be held at a Florida school for a THIRD year has been canceled, officials said.

An LGBTQ student club at Boone High School in Orlando planned to welcome guest Jason DeShazo...He was scheduled to dress in drag and share his “story as a queer person” on Thursday, March 23, the Orlando Sentinel reported.

The annual after-school gathering wasn’t going to be a drag show but instead was an “opportunity for the students to hear a positive message of acceptance and love,” an Orange County Public Schools spokesperson told McClatchy News in an email.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/annual-drag-donuts-event-canceled-143706665.html

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Truthseeker's avatar

This is the problem with high schools today… the kids are graduating with zero actual job skills

And this is where they’re spending time, every and resources… it’s stupidity

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Parents are not parenting either - another serious issue in our country!

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Truthseeker's avatar

It’s my opinion that parents have lost their nerve to parent their kids… no one wants to say no to their kids about anything anymore.

And as a result, a huge percent of kids are completely infantilized.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I have a different "take" on this, Truth...I believe most parents have "abdicated" the responsiblity side of parenting to "the screens (large and small)". We now have a generation of what I call "weeds" - because their minds have not been "cultivated" to accept many aspects of maturation! It's very, very sad and unsettling. I find the most circumspect young people I have met in the past 25 years are those who are HOME SCHOOLED.

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Truthseeker's avatar

I agree with much of what you’re saying

just like many people failed to make their own decision about the vaccine… and just allowed the government and social media to make their decision for them about the vaccine…

But I’ve seen the dark side of homeschool too. Where the parent wasn’t doing anything with their child- they just essentially weren’t going to school/being educated… at all.

If homeschool is done well though- it’s probably far superior to the majority of public school educations now- now that schools are mainly just indoctrination to ideologies.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I can understand how "easy" it would be to "fail to follow through" on Home Schooling--but I have not been privy to those "home school" failures--only the successes. Did you know that "public" education, for the most part, throughout the early part of our country's history was started by "groups of parents" in conjunction with the pastor(s) of the town's church(es). How different things would be if that were still the case. Alas...we have "progressed" into the abyss of mediocrity.

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Truthseeker's avatar

Indeed.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

What kind of "love" are they promoting? Sure isn't the love mentioned in Scripture--even "eros"...it doesn't qualify--it's PLAIN PERVERSION...pure and simple.

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Annie's avatar

Yeah. Clear out that school. Groomers in control.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Annie, you'd have to clear out half that city: Groomers in control.

So, is there any reason anyone with half a brain can't understand the importance of clobbering the Reedy Creek Improvement District? From my perspective, there was subversive power and agenda afoot that was allowed to fester and thrive.

Later Jay

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Chelie's avatar

Since when has lgbtq become an academic extracurricular activity? Teens don’t need to have that placed front & center at their school. They have enough distractions as it is with sex as it is at this age. Or is that the point of the clown show drag queen hour.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

It’s not an academic course and shouldn’t be an extracurricular activity in schools! But it shows that the mission of public schools is no longer to educate students in core academics, critical thinking or the sciences. The goal is to indoctrinate and influence young people to their perverted ideology and to sexualize children at a young age. They want a godless culture where there are no traditional values, no moral absolutes and no standards for behavior. Furthermore, it’s an assault on the traditional family structure.

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Chelie's avatar

Exactly!

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Dr Linda's avatar

It really burns me that a man can dress up like a woman and get paid for it. But no one is paying me to be a woman. I know that is not a fully baked comment but you get what I’m saying. : )

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YYR's avatar

Women perform in stage in various capacities as well... We just aren't trying to humiliate and groom entire swaths of the population while performing.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

"Fully baked comment" 🤣♥️

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WendeAnne's avatar

And what if as a woman you’re kinda cute... bigger slam! I demand reparations.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Here here

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RunningLogic's avatar

Maybe women need to start saying “Why are you appropriating my gender???” to these people!

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CaplT's avatar

They do, but are muzzled by posts being quashed.

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Fla Mom's avatar

In person, at the events. Like the Left does. But leave when asked, or be ready to be arrested for trespassing, if the law would support that.

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Peter GL's avatar

Seems woke prosecutors will enforce only those laws that support their ideologies

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Fla Mom's avatar

Friendly amendment: "sex," not "gender." Sex is the biological term.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That said, I think I’d feel funny about saying “why are you appropriating my sex” because of the dual meaning of the word 🤪 as semantically correct as it might be.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes you’re correct of course.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Friendly amendment, Based: "steal a whole *sex.*" 'Sex' is biological, and there are two. 'Gender' is grammatical, and they are masculine, feminine, and neuter. Guess who appropriated that word and turned it into the circus we see today. Take back the language.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I also think the fondness for stupid names for biological terms is reprehensible. Boobs for breasts. All the names for penis. I use biological terms. It’s weird because it’s almost a foreign language to most people.

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Chelie's avatar

Agree 100%. Take back the language and use appropriate terminology. It takes some of the air out of their balloons.

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SadieJay's avatar

And women are okay with that. Well, the big mouthed liberal ones anyway. I wrote stack about this. You can read it here. I have honestly had it with these women, both with v-jay-jays and with twigs and berries.

https://sadiejay.substack.com/p/rocky-horror

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

It's all about the "global agenda" of the WEF - the "stakeholder" philosophy where corporations are now "graded" on their ESG policies (Environment/Social Equity/Governance). If they don't go along with the WEF's ESG policies they are "downgraded" on the various stock exchanges and their stocks will plummet. You see...it's not about "trannies"/lesbians/homosexuals/non binary/queers--it's REALLY about 'POWER AND GREED'. It's what "runs" this evil-minded world in which we all live (for now anyway).

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Annie's avatar

They are nasty.

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Marc's avatar

Hey, be careful not to mix up your biological sex (not sure what that is in woke-speak today) with any of the 657 possible genders! You might inadvertently misgendisexify “them” 😉😂

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CuiBono?'s avatar

Great point!!🙌🏼

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OnTheJump's avatar

Interesting that we had the Washington Redskins change their name, the Cleveland Indians, the University of Illinois had to say goodbye to its mascot, Chief Illiniwek - but now, somehow, THIS is championed ? Protected, even. Please do "shove it back" somewhere.

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Cynthia Bowers's avatar

And apparently Vox bans any comment on any of its myriad of sports sites that uses the name Redskins.

So for example if I wanted to write about a player on the team during the era the team was the Redskins….can’t use the team name.

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Jay Skywatcher's avatar

A nearby school mascot was the Redskins and a few years back they did a building project. Much of the crew were Navajos and instead of being offended they LOVED the fact that the Team was called the Redskins. They considered it an honor.

This political correct crap has got out of hand.

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YYR's avatar

It's the self-loathing whites who champion the ethnic cleansing of non-white cultural references. Almost as if they're the racists.🤔

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Cynthia Bowers's avatar

Yes. And if you are not allowed to past about a team name in its era then isn’t that an attempt at rewriting history which we usually ascribe to pol pot or mao?

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Cynthia Bowers's avatar

And I always thought chief illinewek at the u of I games was honoring a warrior.

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Jay Skywatcher's avatar

Are they gonna rename The Apache Helicopter?

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OnTheJump's avatar

He was.

Was a great tradition.

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SusanMc's avatar

That’s the entire point! The revolutionaries want to erase our past. It’s a brave New World. Chinese who lived thru that purging are trying to warn us.

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Peter 🔒's avatar

My wife went to china for work, several years back. The people still revere mao. brains are washed or indoctrinated.

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OnTheJump's avatar

I guess that would be similar to the bs " no dead-naming " craziness - rules for the 'woke'.

That. Is. Sad.

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CarO Lyn's avatar

Once Redskins, always Redskins for us after 20 years in NoVA. Have all our team jerseys & memorabilia safely tucked away.

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Cynthia Bowers's avatar

I remember way back when Marquette quit its team name warriors for golden eagles or some such. Warriors is a noble name. That it is a catholic college I guess shouldn’t have surprised me.

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SusanMc's avatar

Prayer warriors are good ones too

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RJ Rambler's avatar

And the Illini can't even defend themselves, they're all dead. Died during the Indian wars. 😑

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OnTheJump's avatar

Looks like that on the football field, as well.

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MaryLS's avatar

Absolutely true. Drag ridicules women and demeans women often using exaggerated stereotypes. It is exactly the same as blackface. This point needs to be made more often as part of the protest movement objecting to drag for kids events. People would not be so tolerant if they were aware of this.

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Annie's avatar

It does. Our country is full of out in the open mentally ill people. From maskers to trannies to identifying with animals. I can't help but think that these clot shots may put a lot of them out of their misery in the near future. God help them all. 🙏

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Granny Annie's avatar

And, sadly, there's a nationwide paucity of genuine "treatment" for these people. The foxes took over those henhouses (Medicaid money farms) years ago. My daughter, who struggles with gender dysphoria issues, had a therapist for a few months last year who proudly let us know during a therapy session that she, herself, is "non-binary." I remember thinking, "What the hell does that even mean?" Fortunately, my daughter was "dismissed" from this therapist's practice because she missed two appointments. Kinda goes along the same lines as "with friends like these . . . "

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SusanMc's avatar

I often wonder if “non-binary” doesn’t mean a “nothing” or an “anything.”

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Peter 🔒's avatar

They want to bounce between genders, and be "Gender Fluid". It's a control mechanism to Affirm their new identity. ASA says its a mental disorder:

https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

You know I wonder how much it has to do with environmental estrogens, or social media. When I was a teenager, back in the Paleolithic, we all wanted to be androgynous, David Bowie-ish, but it was something internal, and mostly about not wanting to be like our parents. My sister was a major tomboy, hated pink, didn't want to play with dolls. None of this was medicalized or pathologized, and we changed, as teenagers do. Turned out my sister was an actress, ended up in theatre and in Ringling, and then running a circus program. All the young students were from what she called "the island of misfit toys," theatrical kids, clowning kids, creative kids. The significant thing was their uniqueness, which might've involved traditional male or female thinking or behaviors or sexuality. I think it is just really profitable but psychologically devastating to freeze these children when they are growing up or

trying to.

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Peter 🔒's avatar

Cynthia,

This is info and psychological warfare.

There are huge funds behind this agenda to split people and families apart and cause in-fighting, so we all DO NOT gang up and fight 'the system' ... the powers that be.

I get ads for "how gay are you?" rainbow flags and survey type stuff in YouTube all the time. I've been married for over a decade. Can't they look up my data and know I'm not their Segment. Duh.

Sorry if u don't like Baloney maloney - but this is a good article https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/5th-gen-warfare-terms-and-tactics

Red white and blue are the colors that unite us.

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Peter 🔒's avatar

snippet from 5th gen war:

The goal is to disrupt and defeat opponents by creating new cognitive biases.

The most effective 5th Gen warfare strategies employed by those lacking integrity are not purely based on pushing false narratives, mis or dis information. The most effective strategies mix truth with fiction, and act to increase confusion and disorder in the thoughts and minds of those being targeted, so that they are not sure what or whom to believe.

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Peter 🔒's avatar

Tom MacDonald - " Brainwashed" (3:52) (nsfw) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCBNwGHPZ2M

Tom MacDonald - "The System" (3:17)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OshNahVo9-c

Tom MacDonald - "Snowflakes" (3:42) (nsfw)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCMwlorNEZk

If you can get past His persona; rough-edged and anti-establishment, his songs have deep meaning, and call out all the BS. His songs all have over 15 million views.

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YYR's avatar

Womanface.

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Chelie's avatar

Yes. You are 100% correct. It would be interesting to see their reaction to having this woke transgender- drag queen ideology reversed to depict them as grotesque clowns that they are, discriminating against and insulting the natural beauty and unique biology of a woman that can conceive then give birth to another human. Let the woke & the rest of the world out there know it’s their version of blackface.

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memento mori's avatar

The typical retort is that drag is different from blackface because it somehow "celebrates" women. But if you think about it: What was so offensive about blackface? It made fun of black people - that's pretty much the bottom line. Womanface does not celebrate women any more than blackface celebrated black people. Womanface makes fun of women. Full stop.

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Diana (Somewhere in Maryland)'s avatar

Even back when I viewed it as fun and harmless... I never thought it was celebrating me - a woman.

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Credenda's avatar

Yes, years ago it was just something a bit silly and good-natured. Remember the burly guys who dressed up as ballerinas and tried to dance swan lake? Hysterically funny! It was just an innocent way of spoofing. But it’s so dark now and the objectives are different. It’s about the kids and training them to accept a false view of reality. Some people claim that the ultimate goal is to help usher in transhumanism. I don’t know but nothing surprises me anymore.

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Deb S's avatar

Years ago my husband and I found ourselves at a bar near a college campus. Apparently they were having a drag show that night. The ultimate winner was this little guy who dressed up as a granny (complete with a walker). The crowd ate it up! Because we all understood that drag is a parody. The “real” drag queens were soooo pissed off! They were furious to have lost to the granny. They were angry that someone who didn’t take drag *seriously* beat them all. I must admit that I LOVED their pearl-clutching angst. :-D

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MaryAnn's avatar

I remember the comedian, Flip Wilson, as a ‘female illusionist’. He was funny. The illusionists of today are pitiful.

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Deb S's avatar

Yes!! Geraldine. Flip Wilson was an amazing comedian. Or Robin Williams as Mrs. Doubtfire. Or the entire 'Birdcage' movie. All hysterical! Because they never took themselves seriously. Sure wish we could go back to the days when saner heads prevailed.

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Credenda's avatar

Flip was a great comedian and if you really want to go way back, there was “Uncle Miltie” (Milton Berle). My dad used to roar.

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Credenda's avatar

I was a two year old. The War was only 6 years prior. It was a different world.

https://youtu.be/i2NqUL3xJ9Y

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

I never went to those shows, something in me just felt a tremendous turnoff... I often feel it was the Holy Spirit protecting me.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I think the appropriate response to that assertion is “How? How exactly is it celebrating women?” I doubt they’d be capable of giving any good explanation.

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Heidi Fiedler's avatar

It's worse than blackface. People who were donning blackface weren't pretending they were actually black, weren't demanding that everyone recognize them being black, and weren't demanding that blacks who objected to their costume praise their "blackness".

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Excellent observations.

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Monica Nieves's avatar

Excellent point.

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Credenda's avatar

I never thought of it that way! But you are 100% right!

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cl's avatar

Jim Olson-yes, exactly! But seeing this complete refusal to engage with any reason, logic or critical thinking (on which succeeding in education used to be based) - in favour of coercion "just because" (as in my workplace currently, where managers are selected for this automaton- like logic- blindness and simply state their authority and what you "must" do in a new diktat, even when you make a clear, reasoned and logical case based on a health condition for eg, and their logic is not only illegal in the discrimination laws but also patently flawed as it's not applied consistently, making their appeals to "health and safety" completely redundant) - the ability to make a reasoned, logical case has been not only demoted but thrown out.

Just coercion because " I say so" and rising authoritarianism is in vogue, since it was officially "authorised"- & those to whom it appeals got the taste for it, I guess.

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daverkb's avatar

You strike at the core of it. Absent reasoning, and all of the skill and knowledge it takes thereunto, what is left? An empty shell of a human being? And thus the non-thinking automaton becomes wholly dehumanized.

As I read your rather nicely crafted comment, my mind wandered to Transhumanism and Singularity. With 'augmentation', as they like to say, what is left of the human being and his humanity? Especially once the words 'programmable, hacked and/or other-directed' are taken into account. And by the way, stripping everyone of their humanity is intrinsic to the whole damnable Tyranny/Control Model being imposed upon us.

When I was young, appearance counted a lot in getting hired. How one looked and acted, carried himself, counted for much. Why? Because an employer used that as an indication of judgment. Moreover, employers wanted someone who could 'think on their feet'. A non-thinking person was not wanted. But what do we now get with Woke? A very compromised pre-programmed person. And in the World of Woke only the Woke of the Moment counts and none of the damage done to the long term viability of a civilization is ever considered. Instead, everything is only an automated means to a dubious end. The Ukraine Debacle is a prime example of nothing thought out. No off ramp. No reverse gear. No contingency plans. No consideration of consequences of things ... things like sanctioning, the theft of assets qua future investing, not to mention things like the blowing up of pipelines with the whole world watching.

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Kitkat's avatar

I always thought old-school Drag shows were to celebrate women. I think back to that 90s movies "To Wong Fu, Thanks for everything Julie Newmar" or "The Birdcage".

These days it's all sexual perversion. The drag queens are all gross, ugly men who get their jollies enticing little kids.

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RunningLogic's avatar

How does drag celebrate women though? I don’t get that assertion, makes no sense to me.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

It doesn't - it denigrates women AND men...that's always been my thinking. Never thought it was "entertainment" and NOW...it's just plain desperately DISGUSTING!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yeah imitation is a stretch 😕

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Dawn B's avatar

Those shows got their drag foot in the door.

Evil creeps in a little at a time so it goes unnoticed and unchallenged, until it rears its ugly head.

That happens with pretty much everything...food, morals, music, TV language/sex, clothing, pedos, medical, schools/curriclum, false history...

We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. 1 John 5:19

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Actually...I was never a fan of cross dressing or drag--considered it to be gender bending and not that entertaining. But...to each his own. HOWEVER...the caveat for ME is NO DRAG SHOWS IN SCHOOLS or DRAGSTERS giving "talks" to children under the age of 12. It's ludicrous--a pastor couldn't give talk about Biblical subject matters--even "bible clubs" are discouraged now! Our moral decay is SO apparent!!

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Heidi Fiedler's avatar

It's always been about sexual perversion. But back in the day, drag was a performance not an assertion that the dragster was an actual woman.

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Datagal's avatar

I love this angle- that drag is misogynistic. Never thought of it that way!

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Ripple's avatar

It's because blacks are super special, important and sacred people and women are not.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Bingo! An endangered species as well.

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Heidi Fiedler's avatar

Yes, clearly.

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norstadt's avatar

Still, Mrs Doubtfire was a fun family movie. RIP, Robin Williams - you were the best.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Doubtfire was posing as a woman so he could be a part of his children's lives--post divorce.

Totally different scenario, Norstadt!

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norstadt's avatar

Indeed.

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OnTheJump's avatar

He absolutely was.

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Monterey's avatar

Drag is, indeed, "womanface."

It makes many women extremely uncomfortable and feels insulting.

And for the record, I never liked blackface, either. It seemed really disrespectful .

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I guess drag isn't considered "racist" - but it certainly IS "equitable"!!

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CaplT's avatar

Gender misappropriation

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