So Jeff, where are these “ordinary gay folk” when my brother is threatened with dismissal by HR for refusing to put a placard on his desk stating “I am a LGBT+ ally? Crickets….. And if I may ask, what is normal about a man wanting to insert his penis into another man’s rectum? Is it that we see this as normal because we have propagandize…
So Jeff, where are these “ordinary gay folk” when my brother is threatened with dismissal by HR for refusing to put a placard on his desk stating “I am a LGBT+ ally? Crickets….. And if I may ask, what is normal about a man wanting to insert his penis into another man’s rectum? Is it that we see this as normal because we have propagandized to accept it now? So anything can be considered normal if we’re exposed to it long enough? Personally, these behaviors are repulsive to me but I do not condemn those who do them, not even the “minority-attracted” people, since I know that God loves them as his image-bearers and does not wish that they perish eternally. But while we can and should freely admit our lack of moral superiority over them we must be unwavering in standing for Christ’s truth—that those who do such things will perish. In love we must warn them (and be willing to bear the cost of doing so).
Credenda...your entire statement, especially, "In love we must warn them (and be willing to bear the cost of doing so)," is beautifully written. 'Bearing the cost...' is a burden weak folks cannot bring themselves to do.
You tell them the truth about the condition of their soul then you talk about the particulars of what God abhors - among them homosexuality, but also, lying, coveting, murder... and the Lord helps us to right the ship, but that we will only be as we were meant to be (because we are all flawed and chock full of sin) when we are in heaven with Him. I think there is an order of discussion. There are a lot of repulsive behaviors. Haughty eyes and a lying tongue are also an abomination. There are people, Christian people out there living their best haughty lying life!
We should look at all things unacceptable to God and all things that have been normalized and seek to root out that sin from our lives. ALL SIN. It is a process that God helps us with.
In my middle school, perhaps 2016, we teachers were encouraged to place little rainbow decals on the glass section of classroom doors, to show that we welcomed that rainbow group. I thought the sign. on the other hand, and at the very same time, said to children brought up in conservative Muslim or Christian homes, who know that homosexuality is not a good move, 'your sort is not welcome here'. My door did not gain the decal. We had a sizeable Muslim population.
That's my question, too. If 'ordinary gay folk' differ with this push to normalize everything gay, are they pushing back? They, more then us 'ordinary straight people' would have a greater influence if they speak up.
So Jeff, where are these “ordinary gay folk” when my brother is threatened with dismissal by HR for refusing to put a placard on his desk stating “I am a LGBT+ ally? Crickets….. And if I may ask, what is normal about a man wanting to insert his penis into another man’s rectum? Is it that we see this as normal because we have propagandized to accept it now? So anything can be considered normal if we’re exposed to it long enough? Personally, these behaviors are repulsive to me but I do not condemn those who do them, not even the “minority-attracted” people, since I know that God loves them as his image-bearers and does not wish that they perish eternally. But while we can and should freely admit our lack of moral superiority over them we must be unwavering in standing for Christ’s truth—that those who do such things will perish. In love we must warn them (and be willing to bear the cost of doing so).
Truth is paramount
Credenda...your entire statement, especially, "In love we must warn them (and be willing to bear the cost of doing so)," is beautifully written. 'Bearing the cost...' is a burden weak folks cannot bring themselves to do.
What employer is that? So I’ll never apply there.
You tell them the truth about the condition of their soul then you talk about the particulars of what God abhors - among them homosexuality, but also, lying, coveting, murder... and the Lord helps us to right the ship, but that we will only be as we were meant to be (because we are all flawed and chock full of sin) when we are in heaven with Him. I think there is an order of discussion. There are a lot of repulsive behaviors. Haughty eyes and a lying tongue are also an abomination. There are people, Christian people out there living their best haughty lying life!
We should look at all things unacceptable to God and all things that have been normalized and seek to root out that sin from our lives. ALL SIN. It is a process that God helps us with.
And those who sow discord among the brethren.
In my middle school, perhaps 2016, we teachers were encouraged to place little rainbow decals on the glass section of classroom doors, to show that we welcomed that rainbow group. I thought the sign. on the other hand, and at the very same time, said to children brought up in conservative Muslim or Christian homes, who know that homosexuality is not a good move, 'your sort is not welcome here'. My door did not gain the decal. We had a sizeable Muslim population.
Ps. 119:130-136 The opening of THY WORDS giveth light; It giveth understanding unto the simple.
I opened wide my mouth, and panted; For I longed for THY COMMANDMENTS.
Turn Thee unto me, and have mercy upon me, As Thou usest to do unto those that love Thy name.
Establish my footsteps in THY WORD; And let not any iniquity have dominion over me.
Redeem me from the oppression of man: So will I observe THY PRECEPTS.
Make Thy face to shine upon Thy servant; And teach me THY STATUTES.
Streams of water run down mine eyes, Because they observe not THY LAW.
I don’t do religion at all and I also find it repulsive.
That's my question, too. If 'ordinary gay folk' differ with this push to normalize everything gay, are they pushing back? They, more then us 'ordinary straight people' would have a greater influence if they speak up.