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Based Florida Man's avatar

"Lockdowns for covid". It shows their view of us since 'lockdowns' is a term used for prisoners who misbehave.

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Kim D's avatar

The lockdowns were a sick controlled opp to experiment on humanity. Now, they pretend surprise at the results. Meanwhile, the experiment continues with radiation poisoning from 5G and beyond and even those wise enough to not fall for the covid opp are falling for the inverted technology "they" are dripping out.

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Annie's avatar

At work the covidians bemoan the variety of problems their children have. Depression, illnesses, social anxiety and a bunch of other medical and psychological problems that prevent them from functioning. I don't let them off the hook. My response is "What did you think would happen when you took away their youth with lockdowns, masks and fear about viruses and killing granny? You made life deadly for them instead of protecting their youth and dealing with any problems as the adult/parent should. How is working out for you now?" Mostly useless idiots who are detrimental to their families and society at large.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

πŸ’ͺ🏻 Put the responsibility right back on them!

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OnTheJump's avatar

B o t

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Raptor's avatar

What has been the response?

I get "we had no choice" or "we kept people from dying"

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Annie's avatar

Respond "You had a choice. You chose convenience and compliance over what was right and what you should do. You caved."

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OnTheJump's avatar

Another option:

THINK FOR YOURSELF.

DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

.....how did people EVER believe that a "vaccine" could be developed, tested and made available in a matter of months?!

OPERATION WARP SPEED my arse. That even SOUNDS like Deep State bioweapon hogwash.....

C'mon, folks!

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rolandttg's avatar

And the jabs had to be kept frozen at something like negative 70 or they could not bet used. Didn't that make anyone say "what the heck is in there??"

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Credenda's avatar

Yes it was rushed but the evidence shows it was crappy from the beginning. No amount of further testing would have changed that. They proceeded with a deadly, useless product and they knew this. We sadly have to acknowledge that the government is no longer protecting us. We are on our own.

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

β€œThink for yourself… do your own research…”

Natural skepticism seems to be more rare a trait than honesty.

At least we now know that most of those around us can’t be trusted to push back against β€œauthorities”.

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FourWinds's avatar

"Operation Warp Speed" always sounded like a plot to a science fiction movie to me, and not a good one.

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Raptor's avatar

Oh I have a response to those responses I get. It depends on how they acted during the pandemic which one I pull out. Or my mood. People also try to weasel by saying "yes, the lockdowns were terrible..." I hope that is their response because it allows me to enumerate the reasons why and who acted on behalf of the jailers who... knew nothing! And how they went along right thru telling their children to jab their toddler grandchildren. Let's say... nobody likes the truth thrown in their face like a poop pie. I don't even bother trying to disguise it with whipped cream on top. I will say I only hit hard on the people who are always talking trash about God. God hating and government loving lockdowners seem to be the same group. Just my observation. They have a god, it is not God.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Or β€œyou chose fear rather than courage. It was all about YOUR own fears and never about anyone else’s health and safety.”

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Raptor's avatar

It was also about punishment. What other reason after it was clearly being seen that the vax was not sterilizing would there be to try to keep people out of stores or their clubhouses or for taking down outdoor rec gear other than punishment and ensuring you follow their rules? I love that you point out the lack of courage. That IS what it boils down to. I truly admire those who faced true consequences for their courage.

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rolandttg's avatar

And there's the famous saying "anyone who willingly gives up some of their liberties for a bit more safety deserves neither "

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Annie's avatar

Good one. πŸ‘

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Dick's avatar

Hey all! Reading through this thread & I want to put out a call to stop angry or I-told-you-so posts about people who complied. You were gifted with more wisdom, common sense, experience and wits than to be brainwashed β€” at least somewhere along this psyop. You resisted and I’m glad there are so many of us and for all who shared knowledge.

But now β€” stop! We need to share with them the antidotes! WE need to help them heal. We need to be our brothers’ brothers. As they are open β€” & one need not convince them that their illnesses are due to the jab β€” use subterfuge if you have to! Slip them natto kinase for their cold! Make them a delicious cup of dandelion tea (β€œHey! Have you tried this, Fred & Mary? It’s great!”)

I gave my daughter natto kinase to take with her edame, β€œimportant to have with the soybeans”…

I’m slipping healing mickeys to anyone I can find and I don’t mind being surreptitious or sneaky about it. If they wont listen to the facts, you can’t stop em, but you can use your own freedom and wits to help β€œthem” get theirs!

It’s a rescue mission. They’re drowning! They can’t swim! But you can!

It’s called charity…love.

Blessings to you good people!

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Dick's avatar

My daughter took the jabs for altruistic reasons. Too much to explain her reasoning, but she knew she’d be ok if she got covid. She thought it was protecting others. She even knew there was a chance of sterility! 😩😠🀬

πŸ™πŸ½πŸ‘†πŸΌβœοΈπŸ’Œ

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Dr Linda's avatar

You caved! I like it. I’m using it

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Raptor's avatar

But what responses do YOU get?

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Annie's avatar

I get uneasy looks, hmm and ahh and then, depending on how deeply they believe, either a direct pushback or a convenient agreement which is just to change the subject. The direct pushback is met with my response of "I guess you are okay with everything now especially in regards to your children." The others is just met with a mild contempt from me.

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rolandttg's avatar

Tell them everyone had a choice, and they chose to live life on their knees rather than risk dying on their feet.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Was thinking the same, as to their response - Save Granny, Do It for My Country, Trust Our Government.

Lol (especially the last)

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Cynthia's avatar

Exactly...and the crazy thing was the same government officials telling us to take the jabs, wear masks and stay 6 feet apart to "save Grandma" were at the same time throwing covid positive patients into nursing homes and literally killing granny. Pure evil.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

I always ask those who said that people were dying of covid, "who do you know that died of covid?"

I always get, "well, no one personally, but..." or someone who was a 450 pound diabetic cousin.

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Raptor's avatar

I think that would fly in a neighborhood not mine. Like young people. You could also ask, do you know anyone who locked down or remains locked down and is living their best life? Did they end up getting covid? There is a piece of life missing for a lot of people. It ranges over 2 years. All the lies and indignities and they ended up getting the Vid anyway. I ask them if they are at all mad that that chunk was stolen from them. You missed births of children, holding infants, cards with your friends - some who have passed. C'mon man!

Not sure what they make of that line of thinking.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

My elderly mom was afraid to give me a hug on my birthday in late March 2020 because she thought she might kill me, I couldn'tbelieveit!! I hate all of the despicable "Public Health Experts" and will never forgive them for the terror they propagated in the world. And as for these grifting, power grabbing, control freak politicianswho have destroyed so much and never built anything, ay they vaxx themselves into the next world sooner than later.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

6 degrees of separation?

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SadieJay's avatar

I always ask..."well, if they died of Covid, were they in the hospital?" The answer was always YES! I am like "Well, then, the hospital killed them with the protocols to get money." I never had any argument on that. People were like "What? Huh?".

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

"Specify just which people did you keep from dying? Can you prove your assertion?"

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Raptor's avatar

I did say almost that exact thing. She said her mom would have died. Her mom did end up dying from a stroke... don't get me started. She didn't see her mom for 2 years, then she had a stroke and she went to see her. She was petrified that she either would get or would give her covid when she went to see her. She was unable to respond to her when she went.

I couldn't think of anything to say except, "what a waste those two years were.". She did not agree. Mental illness. I swear. There are SO many people like that. Years of connection and all that goes with that GONE.

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Dick's avatar

What a terribly sad story! It really was β€” and still is β€” a Mass Formation Psychosis! Many will be sorrowful, shocked and ashamed when they learn the truths that will surely be revealed. God Bless!

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Dr Linda's avatar

Nice

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Susan Banks's avatar

And I say Bullcrap real loud and then I get low and tell them that none of the Amish people got sick because they didn’t have a TV! And then I would tell them Stop watching that Tel A Vision!! Their liars and they will all pay for what they have done to our Country!!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good for you!! I mostly don’t associate with those kinds of people anymore so don’t have the opportunity to ask them that question.

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Annie's avatar

I am the only unvaxxed at work so I am the elephant 🐘 in the room. I will not easily go away as the tide has turned. I am alive and healthy. That in itself blew the covid lies out the of the water.

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Bgagnon's avatar

Yep ... alive and healthy .... best reply ever! πŸ‘

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SadieJay's avatar

My fellowphant! I wrote a stack about that exact thing and how I was searching for fellow elephants.

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SadieJay's avatar

I had to search and I am not pushing my links on people. I just thought it was great someone else uses the same terminology as me.β™₯

https://sadiejay.substack.com/p/overlap-less

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Annie's avatar

Thak you. I will check it out. There's more of us out there than we know.

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Susan Banks's avatar

Sometimes people can’t put two and two together to see you’ve never been out sick!

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rolandttg's avatar

My response exactly

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Good for you...these people need to know all the crazy s**t that these parents went along with and allowed their children to subjected to. A few weeks ago I chased down, in a Trader Joe’s parking lot where I live in SoCA, an β€˜upscale Mom’ type that was wheeling her 3ish year old child back to her car wearing a mask. (I had seen her shopping in the store with a mask on also. Thankfully her child was not masked.)

When I got up next to her in the parking lot, I told her β€œdid she even understand the ramifications on her young child of wearing a mask in front of him were”? That β€œhe could have delayed speech due to not being able to see her whole face and read her facial β€˜cues’ when she spoke to him”. As well as the psychological impact on a young child as well, of seeing their parents masked in public all the time.

She looked at me with a β€˜wide-eyed deer in the headlights’ kind of look and started running, pushing the cart as fast as she could to get to her car.

These kind of β€˜parents’ need to be called out for the s**t they are still doing to their kids!

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CMCM's avatar

Good for you, saying that to her!

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Susan Banks's avatar

I would tell my boys quit putting on those masks!! Buck up against the school for a change!! I call their school to ask questions about the internet and if they had 5G towers in the yard? My boys piss me off!

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A Guy from South Florida's avatar

I bemoan my daughter's selective mutism in which she will not speak to strangers, not a peep. She was 7 months when population control hit the US coast and grew up isolated from others that weren't the grandparents and an aunt/uncle which she will speak to.

I bemoan how the covidians fell for it and let themselves be brain washed

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Annie's avatar

Wow. That's an issue for sure. I hope she will out grow that and live a long happy healthy life. πŸ₯°

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Susan Banks's avatar

I am too but I just can’t be as delicate with my words! It’s like my blood boils and I have to let it out!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Shockingly πŸ™„ it appears zuckerbucks new platform to censor…cough cough…ehem combat twatter while donning a 666 logo πŸ™„ has people running to make accts and check it out. Seriously? The man is a serial liar and criminal who was complicit in all things covid/lockdown/censorship/jab mandate/election fraud and complicit in child sex trafficking on Instagram and we know it is on fakebook too and people are going to fund this monster on another platform??? WTH is wrong with people?!!! I just can’t fathom it. I just can’t.

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J Boss's avatar

Zuck was chosen by the ClA, probably because he agreed to do whatever they wanted. Strange how the ClA shut down their FB-style project the same week as their venture capital arm invested in little Marky.

The IT winners are selected, just like presidents.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Clear as the light of day, now. Too bad we didn’t see it when it happened. Not that Americans and the world would’ve stood up and said NOPE anyway. 😞 We’ve been conditioned to β€œneed” our shiny new objects.

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rolandttg's avatar

Zuck is also a Rockefeller , so there that

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CStone's avatar

When you call Zuckerberg β€˜this man’, I have to say.....I’m wondering if he is even β€˜human’.

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Roger Beal's avatar

ZUck bears a remarkable physical resemblance to "Data" from "Star Trek, The Next Generation".

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CStone's avatar

I had never thought about him being like Data. But you are absolutely β€˜on point’.

I just saw a robot when I saw him......nothing human about him.

Good call!

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Annie's avatar

He is definitely not my definition of a man. Soyboy cuck is more like it.

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Bgagnon's avatar

Cyborg or .... not human ....

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SadieJay's avatar

Soyborg?

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CMCM's avatar

If I believed aliens were walking among us in human disguise, I could believe Zuck is an alien. He has very dark, dead eyes, something I noticed quite a long time ago. He's downright weird.

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CStone's avatar

I just saw this reply......and it’s odd that my husband and I were talking about the β€˜dead eyes’. No life in his facial expressions, no life in his eyes. It’s as thought there is no β€˜soul’ in there.

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Kim D's avatar

I agree. I don't think he is. As for those following him, they most likely are not as well.

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lynn's avatar

they just do not know what zucker does............especially the part in played in the election.

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Juliann's avatar

Georgia found out.πŸ€‘

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lynn's avatar

yes and he is suppose to do it again in more states

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Roger Beal's avatar

CEIR.

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AngelaK's avatar

Money and success and power change a person.

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devoalan's avatar

How quick the stupids have forgotten it was a half billion dollars of lizard boys money that facilitated the theft of 2020, the biggest crime against the world since covid.

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Raptor's avatar

Every time someone asks me if I have Facebook I use it to tell them why I don't. Especially Christians. Why would anyone of any faith (outside of Satanism) have a Facebook account or go to Facebook? Would you multiply a kiddyporn site?

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Peter Schott's avatar

Sadly, it's still one of the better ways to keep up with friends/family indirectly. Yeah - there are alternatives, but if the users aren't there ... they aren't really that helpful.

Not disagreeing, but most people really have no idea about the darker side of Facebook and just use it to try to keep up with their hobbies, friends, and family. Of course, with the "helpful" algorithms, that's nearly impossible.

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rolandttg's avatar

When my father dragged my mother kicking and screaming onto a boat in 1952 In England to move to Canada because he was sick of being shown the door in job interviews after answering the inevitable question "what does you father do?" (laborer), she wrote her mother Every week on thin blue airmail paper. And her mother wrote back immediately upon getting her letter. Did that for decades until she died. do you really need to know what Jason and Jeniffer had for breakfast, or see that photo of what they saw when they walked their dog, or what program your sister just watched. ? Not picking on you, because it's everyone. Phones used to be used to call people. And E mail still works fine for me. Lose the smart phones. Take back your lives. it IS their control mecjhanism, and not only is everyone using it., Their figging paying for that trace and track slavery. We still enjoy our lives immensely with no smart phones, no social media, and no desire for either. Ever.

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Sharon's avatar

my grandma did the same,for years. I cried when I found out my ex threw them away. lot's of history in those letters

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AngelaK's avatar

I dont have any friends on FB but with a lot of time on my hands I like to follow private groups which interest me and I do chime in here and there as I do here.

I also used it in the past to comment under posts about politics to inform people. Then those posts and the newsfeed they were in were removed. (Probably because of the very reason I liked them: to inform)

In any case? FB created a strange troll personality in many who just like to do drive by insult posts where they dont agree with someone..so immature and ignorant and a major contributor to the dumbing down of the American intellect and civility.

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Raptor's avatar

I understand Peter. But there are direct ways - which are meaningful and provide actual connection. I know everyone has to make choices. I don't buy Nike and Apple, but I have Chinese made stuff in my kitchen and closet. So... Yep, I get it. I tried to weed out all the obvious Chinese stuff. and the pile near my front door got huge. But for Christians (I am one) it is impossible for me to use FB or IG. They promote/facilitate abuse of children.

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Credenda's avatar

It’s hard. I won’t rejoin Facebook after many years of freedom but my church uses it so to a large extent I’m out of the loop. But it’s ok. I just can’t feed the Beast.

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CMCM's avatar

I am also trying to avoid buying anything from China, although it's not always possible these days. I remember a couple of decades back people were sometimes speaking out about not buying Chinese made goods and there were few enough products then that you could actually avoid China goods. Not any more. It seems like virtually everything is made in China or made with parts made in China.

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Kim D's avatar

It's really a choice how far a person wants to take the awakening. You can disengage from everything cold turkey or just a little at a time. The most important element is if you know better, make the choice that resonates with your consciousness, not just go along with the herd.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

It's my way of street preaching and pouring coals of fire or rather gathering proofs against them for judgement that for the most part I know nothing about.

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Peter GL's avatar

A few years ago I created a Facebook account. I have never used it, in fact I don't know how. I refuse to learn, and if I could I would delete it. Anyway, we have enough other means of communication that I don't need Facebook. And I recently made a twitter account only so I can open all the twitter links that Jeff puts in his C+C letter

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Raptor's avatar

Jeff probably smilin'.

I say if I don't talk to you or write you, I am probably only mildly curious about what you are doing. Or not even that. It's mostly fake IMO. "I went to Hawaii for a month! Here are 4M pictures." I don't even want to see my OWN 4M pictures from trips. And if I cared about the Hawaii trip I would have known about it ahead of time and asked to see SOME pics. - sent to me in a text. I CALL my sister to find out what insanity she is living in. She FB posts pictures of me as a child where all faces I made involved facial contortion. Or bazillions of dog pictures with captions of what the dog is thinking. WHY? Nobody wants to see that - except her psychiatrist and her weird FB friend from elementary.

Rantrantrant. Hang in there my fellow FB denier.

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CMCM's avatar

I had a MySpace account way back when. When everyone seemed to move to FB I got an account there as well. I barely use it, but it has been wonderful to keep contact with all the people around the world who I knew and worked with in my years teaching overseas. None of us put anything remotely political, it's just a way to know where we all are and about our kids, etc. For family stuff only, it's nice.

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Annie's avatar

They are libbies who want a censored echo chamber. Less triggering that way. Let them have it.

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CMCM's avatar

I was watching Rob Schmitt's show a couple of days ago. He had two guests....Mike Huckabee and some young black Democrat woman, and she simply could not back up her arguments about censorship (they were discussing the new Supreme Court ruling). Finally she came right out with it and said it directly: "The government should be able to censor SOME things." The looks on Schmitt's and Huckabee's faces were priceless, and Huckabee then said: "You stated your side's position very clearly." I think the young woman didn't quite get the import of that comment, though.

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Annie's avatar

They should have responded "how about the government censor you and your position and then get back to us in a year and see if you were good with that?"

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AngelaK's avatar

πŸ’―

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Ro Dann's avatar

Where can I watch that show

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nik's avatar

A liberal way to screw Twitter …

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Temcol's avatar

I had to have β€œpapers” authorizing me to be driving in California during lockdowns from the place I was volunteering that was considered an essential service. I was assembling food boxes for Salvation Army. I was astounded and incredulous over the gestapo type laws California had! It was shocking!

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Jennifer's avatar

I had two separate friends on separate days be stopped by the police and questioned during lock down. One was just simply walking from their home to get food. The other was pulled over for no reason driving in their car. At that time, I was driving over an hour to check on my elderly father twice a week. I had to get a doctors note to prove I was a caregiver. The doctor was surprised when I asked but I told them they were stopping people and questioning them. They were shocked and wrote me the note. Insanity. I also live in CA.

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Temcol's avatar

That is just crazy! I wish Newsome was gone and a God fearing leader would come clean up his mess!

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CMCM's avatar

Newsom wants oh so badly to replace Biden. He's a disgusting, lying, conniving, criminal POS. Democrats seem to love him.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

I was "stopped" a couple of times by a cop in my neighborhood who I know by sight early on in April 2020 while out running in the morning. He didn't question me really, just asked I it was safe for me to be out running. I just laughed and said if I didn't exercise, no one will be safe from me! People are sheep. Outdoors, in the sunshine, afraid of a cold?

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AngelaK's avatar

You know, I understand that in the very beginning they KNEW it was a bioweapon and didn't know how it was going to playout.

If God forbid, a worse biowepon is ever sprayed on us or something, I would totally understand fear of being outdoors.

In retrospect it all seems nonsensical but logic says anything is possible.

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CMCM's avatar

I'm amazed to read these things about California, and I have to conclude it was mostly in the big cities. I'm in the California foothills between Sacramento and Tahoe, and things weren't at all draconian here. We had some rebellious restaurants who defiantly stayed open for those who wanted to go inside, and they sued the local town government and WON the right to stay open. Shops were open with distancing. My daughter has been a nurse this whole time and she wasn't forced to get jabbed, she easily got a religious exemption. Many of our local private schools remained open. People wore masks for a time, but then it tapered off. Adjoining counties were similarly lax. There were little towns in the foothills and mountains in which I never saw anyone wearing masks, period. Overall, my area seemed to retain a fairly good level of normalcy. The big cities were obviously quite different.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

To this day there is still a piece of the tape that held my RN wife's "Registered Nurse in transit to work or patient care" sign on the rear window of her VW.

(We lived in WA State where non-emergency travel was verboten.)

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Healingroze Earthwise's avatar

Placer county? My parents live there and the Sheriff refused to carry out the mandates.

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CMCM's avatar

Nevada County. Placer was good as well. Then in El Dorado county and some of the other small counties people seemed to ignore mask mandates entirely.

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

In Texas, people were mad because the promised lockdowns would be over after two weeks. After 4 weeks, everyone was over it and not complying. If most of the people don’t go along, it goes away. No way to enforce it.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

Where was that? I live in Sacramento, nothing like that up here.

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Jennifer's avatar

Southern CA

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

That is bonkers. I know the "health experts" in LA County went/are still insane, but papers to move about? Truly a nightmare.

I grew up in Santa Clara County and rarely go back now because my wife and I were banned from restaurants, bars, music venues, all because of our unvaxxed status.

I still can't believe there were no mass protests here against our civil liberties being stolen. I went to a couple at the Capitol building, but they were just tiny and sad and kinda sketchy.

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Sharon's avatar

Wow, I really never locked down here in Cali, pretty much went into the office a couple times a week until work at home was possible, continued to meet friends for walks and hikes, stood in line at Traders and don’t know of anyone who was questioned about driving. We even took a couple road trips and my son was driving daily for a food bank, interesting to hear how others were affected.

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

The experiment was, as with masking, to see what percentage of the population would follow the mandates, blindly. I’d say they know now that they have most of the population under control.

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Susan Banks's avatar

I never stayed In my house. I’m a private driver and I would pick people of scared to Death of the darn Covid!! I mean shaking to get in the Car!! I would calm them down and tell them to turn off the freaking TV!!!

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There's no free lunch's avatar

Good eyes πŸ‘€

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FourWinds's avatar

Highly accurate assortation there IMO. I can't speak for everywhere, but in my dad's old folks independent living community in Ohio, he was not "allowed" to leave or see other people, except to go to the store, pharmacy (of course) and for "emergencies". Otherwise, he'd have to be "quarantined" for 2 weeks. I told him that was flat out illegal. He said he signed something when he moved in stating he would follow their rules. I said it was still illegal and they can't enforce illegal rules. I also asked if they made a rule that all their residents had to get on the train, so to speak, then what? We fought a lot about it and I could not really convince him this was illegal and unenforceable but we did manage to "accidentally" meet at Kroger or the park about once a week. The jerks running that home will want a donation when he dies. I will say no for the reason they tried to make my dad a prisoner illegally and pushed the "vaccine" on him.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Hey, I haven't seen "Benjamin with 2 N's" lately.

Anybody know if the woke Pentagon sent him to Ukraine with the rest of the US troops that are there?

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Sunnydaze's avatar

🀫 don’t wake him 🀐

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Beat me to it πŸ˜†

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Dr Linda's avatar

Whoops

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rolandttg's avatar

I second that

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Summer vacation??

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devoalan's avatar

He was fed. Notice his girlfriend is gone as well? But they've never met!

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

"Fed"?

Thanks to a lot of people I got to keep my job :)

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Cornwall Marc's avatar

He is rather rude so I don't miss him. I wonder why he is so confrontational...

How do you write BeNjamiN with only one N?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

There is a Pentagon unit tasked with trolling social media.

...to protect the generals from being insulted!

https://theintercept.com/2023/06/17/army-surveillance-social-media/

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Thanks for link, Kathleen

'embarrassment'

sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me

I might have thought that a man at top of military hierarchy would be made of tougher stuff.

Apparently not.

General Patton anyone?

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Politico Phil's avatar

Have you seen the top General in the military? Cream puff turn-coat.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Patton is turning over in his grave.

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Cornwall Marc's avatar

Unbelievable! I wonder if they check under their beds and in the wardrobe for ghosts. It has gotten totally out of control. Another industry that has grown huge. And who pays for it all? The patsy taxpayer! I say let them take their chances, just like the rest of us.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Explains why those generals can't win a war.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Russian generals?

3 things get them-

Ukrainian snipers and missiles

Russian FSB goon squads

Falling from windows

Day 500 of Russia's 3 day war.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

There's an entire unit of the russian government made to create disinfo and push false narratives. Jeff buys into it and shares it.

By the way, how is your 3 day war going?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I figured he was a DoD or DHS troll. Maybe he is Zelensky's alter ego...

He is/was getting paid to troll this Substack.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I've never been paid to "troll". I started here because I was trying to keep my job amidst my refusal to bend the knee to the clot shot holy warriors.

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Raptor's avatar

I mostly liked when he replied to me. He worked hard to make everything about Ukraine. Maybe the two "N's" imply Neo Nazi. He seemed in love with them. I talk like he is dead. Maybe he is busy off fighting the glorious unholy fake war.

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Dr Linda's avatar

He did zing you quite often. I got a number of zings as well. Iron Horsey seems to have taken over. A little more refined.

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Raptor's avatar

Haha. True.

I think they have moved off to greener pastures. Neigh.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Russia! Russia! Russia!

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Honestly i felt like he was trying very hard to make sense of things by making an argument, possibly his only way of communicating. ? I just know that I don't know what I used to think I knew about ppl. Now add AI.

GOD HELP US!

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Originally when I started i accidentally typed the second N. It stuck.

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Cornwall Marc's avatar

BeNjamiN - You're alive! Now you know what we all think of you, hopefully you will play nicely moving forward or we will put you on the naughty step and completely ignore you.

I hope you are not a bot or a paid troll because that is SO tedious.

It's ok to disagree - but nice manners cost nothing. Thank you.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I'm neither. I'm a real human being. Beep boop Elon musk is my father..beep boop...

Now that I am not facing the loss of my primary job and the stress related to that I am more relaxed now.

But for real, I'm a mil employee. I not only have my full time army job and and a side job I have which sucks up a lot of time. And 2 golden retrievers also who I absolutely love. I'm a plain ol' guy in an infantry unit. I believe in America and that this is the greatest nation on earth-American exceptionalism.

My wife and I plan on having 5-6 kids and home schooling so I'm hardly some leftist who drives a prius.

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Cornwall Marc's avatar

Hi Benjamin, A lovely reply! I hope we will all get along fine (we have the rest of the world of we want a fight...). I'm in UK but have watched and read very extensively about US military jab mandates as my son is in the British Army. I fear the America you love has been hijacked by very negative forces and is in desperate need of a return to We The People to become great again.

I too have an adorable dog, a Vizsla who wouldn't share us with another one. Good chat!

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

I used to just scroll right over him anyway. He was just looking for engagement - if people stopped responding he probably decided to find another place to spew.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Why u poke da Bear ?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Poke the bear? The bear decided to start the fight.

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CaplT's avatar

Ukraine kind of overtook C&C news for a while, beyond the cov biolabs connection where they/we are/were cooking up the nextgen of fear and pestilence. However, besides the horrors of war, Ukraine is a distraction to other things being done here at home or for purposes against us in the US.

Except for the two way sniping it is good to have different perspectives on the same event. Less surprises. I would hope we are more civil here than other places where contradictory news and opinion is presented. That’s also why we should look in at leftie news, to know what the other side is thinking /planning.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Russia is going to hand biden a massive W unfortunately when this is all over.

Jeff and other pro-soviets are carrying water for them based on identity politics.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

We do notice our friends, don't we?

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devoalan's avatar

One can hope.

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mary's avatar

πŸ˜‚

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Julie Ann B's avatar

πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»

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Donna B's avatar

Maybe he was a bot.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I thought about β€œhim”recently as well. I wondered if vacation was the reason.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I kinda miss his ignorance...sort of like know your enemy.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

You're the one who makes pretty wild claims about Russia when battlefield facts clash with your pre-conceived notions.

500 days into the 3 day war, remember

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I have a full time job and a part time business I run.

Remember, the "based" Russian army can't win against the "woke west".

Must be embarassing, huh? 500 days into the 3 day war..and now Russia is continuing to lose ground.

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Politico Phil's avatar

What a broken record you are. The Bear will end up eating your lunch. Watch out.

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Peter Schott's avatar

Yeah - "excessive quarantine" would be more descriptive, but not really surprised that they weren't effective. More surprised/saddened that all of the knowledge we had for 100+ years was tossed out the window in favor of "doing something, anything, no matter how silly".

What's more sad is that so many people won't get to the end of these articles and start questioning why we went through it. I keep hearing from the believers that "well, we didn't know better so we had to do something". They completely miss that we _did_ know better and ignored it in favor of some really bad policies. :(

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Steph D's avatar

My question to the β€˜true believers’ in lockdown policies has always been this:

Why were liquor stores, pot dispensaries, tattoo parlors, and Walmart open but churches, small businesses, and playgrounds closed?

The comeback is usually that people use pot medicinally, alcoholics will have withdrawals...

You know that stuff can be ordered online and delivered to your door?

The lack of critical thinking in the obedient, lockdown loving left is astounding but mostly tragic.

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JimB's avatar

LLL= lockdown loving left…..

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CMCM's avatar

I wish we the dissenting public had figured out a way to FORCE these people to explain their various idiotic policies. We didn't, so they got away with it.

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

How do tattoo parlors and strip joints become essential?

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

But hair salons were closed.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Gov Wolf shut the Pa state-run/ union-dominated liquor store for about 3 months. My husband drove to Delaware to get wine (our only 'vice'). Looking back at the news clip from March 14: Friday March 13 Wolf said he wasn't closing liquor stores; Saturday he turned around and all liquor stores in Phila 4 suburban counties were shut. I wasn't paying attention at the time (trying hard to figure out how to teach via Google Classroom)--didn't realize the ban didn't apply to the whole Commonwealth. Now that I know, I have to ask, why? why just 4 counties? These counties voted Wolf in--couldn't be a reprisal move.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes, exactly!!

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RandiG's avatar

BFM,

The lockdowns did make us feel like prisoners, BUT it gave people an opportunity to have their eyes opened. We went from 2 weeks to flatten the curve to unimaginable overreach in our government. If this didn’t happen, many people might still be asleep. πŸ™

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RunningLogic's avatar

I agree with that.

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CaplT's avatar

How ironic that blaming media is now in the WSJ, a perpetrator.

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randall stoehr's avatar

And one that will live in infamy,

to possibly be utilized again for the inclusions of non-compliance mandates!

The Covid Theater teaches us one grand 20/20 lesson.

The Plan-Demic thing is and was for some, "UNAVOIDABLY UNSAFE!"

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Michele's avatar

Yeah, and I always wonder how actual prisoners look at that term, and us complaining about them (the lockdowns, not the prisoners lol). Not that lockdowns aren't 100% legit to complain about, do not get me started on that, but...of course ours were much more luxury-filled than an actual prisoner's would be.

Just like the dilution of the word assault during me too (He looked at me funny! I was assaulted!), I feel like "lockdown" is genius psychology on the part of the terrorist powers that wannabe, because it distorts actual meaning, it divides and conquers, and it subtly influences a group's perception of itself.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

And that is EXACTLY how the despot governance in our world views WE THE PEOPLE--their chattel--their pawns--to lock down or destroy AT THEIR WHIM!! GOD PROTECT US FROM OUR "LEADERS"!

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Tonya's avatar

β€œMost likely lockdowns represent the biggest policy mistake in modern times,”

And that's why these things are being allowed to be published; we're supposed to think it was a mistake.

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daiva's avatar

Complement/compare that with a quote from notoriously retracted Lancet's preprint ↓↓ πŸ™‚

πŸ—¨ COVID-19 vaccines would represent the largest medical failure in human history.

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Roger Beal's avatar

"Failure" suggests the vaxxes were designed to prevent disease.

Some of us would argue, credibly, that the vaxxes were Stage Two of a multi-stage biological warface attack on the earth's population, with the unstated goal of significantly reducing its overall number and size.

If that argument is true, then the vaxxes were a "failure" only in that they have not been deadly enough.

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WP William's avatar

death and disability, sterility, addiction, retarding educational instruction, conditioning to compliance, gender-questioning blitz, institutional erosion and mistrust, racial and economic class strife, loss of productivity, loss of incentive to work or raise families, massive demographic shifts, property and wealth transfers, medical system abuse and rationing of care, DEADLY ENOUGH. Any Lockdown Baby Boom articles? I think we read the Opposite??? This will impact humanity and civilization for generations and these WEF'krs are just getting started.

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devoalan's avatar

The whole point of Nanzi's illness was to enable mail in theft of an election. End of story. And billions in profit to her and her buds. And don't forget jarret.

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daiva's avatar

Hence failure nonetheless, however you spin it 😏

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devoalan's avatar

I agree, it was a huge success. Maybe not deadly enough. They're working on that.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Quite a devastating quote... but when will normies agree with it? So far the covid psyop still has most people under its control.

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Annie's avatar

Never. At most 10%. They will go down with this ship. It is easier than the alternative which is to admit they were duped and actually contributed to the harm of themselves, their children and family as well as society. Admit they were wrong? Hmm. Doubt it.

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Tonya's avatar

It's hard to tell. Fewer than 20% of the population have received the bivalent shots, but I know many who got the first round and boosters, who, although they didn't get the updated versions, still believe the general narrative of "dangerous virus, everyone at risk, mask, test, trace, over a million Americans died from it."

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devoalan's avatar

My sisinlaw.

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Tonya's avatar

Many of my relatives. It's weird that they had to listen to the "experts" for so long, but finally decided to make the decision for themselves about the bivalent boosters, opting out even though the "experts" recommended it. Why then? Why not at the beginning or at some point in between? Was it the fact that years of their lived experience wasn't matching up to the narrative? Was the cognitive dissonance finally just too great?

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devoalan's avatar

In my sisinlaws case, she recently lost the ability to hold her head up, after all the boosters and testing like a lunatic, and still thinks it's from covid. Don't you dare tell her that covid is a fucking cold.

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J Boss's avatar

I think they'll eventually agree with it. Has to be enough time passed where the emotions are not high. But they will keep a low profile about it until admitting it is not a significant risk to their "status."

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LMWC's avatar

How many Germans after WWII ever owned up to concentration camps even in their own areas? How many said, β€œWe just didn’t know”? That will be the excuse for millions in the U.S. from the common joe to the health industry, corporations, and government. They may not have known but should have and at the least questioned the narrative carried by the water boys, the msm.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well it’s hard to β€œknow” when you plug your ears and shut your eyes whenever someone tries to show you something contrary to the narrative πŸ˜•

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daiva's avatar

How about never? Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―

(Rhetorical, sure, just like yours πŸ˜‰)

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Bingo!!! Like they didn’t know from existing literature the devastating effects their policies would have. As Margaret Anna Alice famously wrote, β€œMistakes were NOT made!”

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Annie's avatar

Agree. Not a mistake but a crime against humanity that many were complicit and many embraced wholeheartedly.

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RU's avatar

Especially since every person who has ever taken a public health course pre-2020 learned that 1) lockdowns do not work and they are nothing but a tool of control used by authoritarians, and 2) masks do not stop the spread from airborn respiratory viruses. These were both well-established tenets prior to "covid." Even the WaPo published an article calling for no masking b/c it was scientifically known to do nothing. Masks were used during the Spanish flu, subsequently studied, and found to be useless. That was over a hundred years ago. We didn't need new studies to confirm any of this.

Point being, once you realize that these things had long been known by real scientists (and even lay people like myself) to not work and to cause harm, you realize the "experts" in public health had to know this as well and did it anyway. Then, continued to do it and forced other - real - medical professionals to profess the efficacy of these fraudulent interventions. They did it all on purpose, knowing full well they would harm people.

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JimB's avatar

Regarding masks and the epidemic from 1918,,,,, studies have shown it was mask wearers who succumbed to a subsequent bacterial infection which was caused by the masks….. my own personal theory is masks would warm the the air in the nasal passages to the optimal temperature for bacteria to thrive which ironically is 98.6

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Lynn46's avatar

Interesting. Not jabbed but my temp always 97. May be why I never got sick.

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CaplT's avatar

Instead of on purpose.

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Sarah Bee's avatar

That line stuck out to me as well.

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daiva's avatar

Know what else "happens all the time"? The indispensable daily C&C, with pleasurably consistent regularity! 🀩

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RunningLogic's avatar

😍😍😍

Always makes my day better!!

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NAB's avatar

Seriously. I can barely get dressed somedays (okay, I'm exaggerating, but only a little) and Jeff turns out these in-depth, well-written and funny posts every, single day. To paraphrase Ralphie from A Christmas Story, "Jeff works in words and snark the way an artist works in oils."

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daiva's avatar

πŸ—¨ ...or clay. It is his true medium; a master.

😊 youtu.be/4KjxFDGFKhk?t=33

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Oh yes!

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

It is encouraging to see criticism of lockdowns gaining traction in mainstream media. Because it is no longer occurring and pharmaceutical corporations can’t profit from it, this is a safe issue for them to critique, so it doesn’t take much courage to address it now.

That said, acknowledging the harms caused by lockdowns can open to door to criticism of other policies and help build defenses against the inevitable call for lockdowns during the next manufactured crisis, so the more attention this gets the better.

Regarding the damage inflicted on children specifically, I highly recommend Liz Cole and Molly Kingsley’s brief but evidence-packed book, β€œThe Children’s Inquiry: How the State and Society Failed the Young During the Covid-19 Pandemic.”

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I might argue that Pharma has and can profit from lockdowns, through the psycho drugs which will be prescribed to the children (and others) damaged by the social disruption to their lives. Let's watch to see just how many new drugs in that category will be entering the prescription pipeline in next two years.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Also, keeping people indoors insures higher transmission rates, thus more people to be treated, and depriving them of fresh air and sunshine, while stressing them out with endless fear porn led to eating lots of junk β€œcomfort”foods and increased alcohol consumption.all contributing to a plethora of diseases requiring medications. Pharma and tyrants were the big winners.

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NAB's avatar

Sadly true. I know several teens now on anti-depressants following lockdown.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Great point, VVV!

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Like dominoes falling....

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

And the school shootings which will follow the prescribings.

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walk2write's avatar

And the demands for 2nd amendment restrictions or outright repeal which will follow the school shootings.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Education Failure started WAY WAY BEFORE COVID or lockdowns would have never happened.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

There are, in my estimation, many silver linings to the lockdowns. One of them: parents being able to sit in on children's classes day after day. Not just one class period during American Education Week when teachers could be putting on the dog and pony show to show off for the visiting parents. Sometimes the parent was listed with a special code in the attendance page--said parent having expressed intention to be "present" in the class. But there was nothing to prevent a parent from being present.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Further, in fall 2020, I was relieved of requirement to 'attend' prof development sessions (read, discuss Ibrahim Kendi....) and required to "attend" 7th grade French classes of two different teachers, in two schools (supposedly I was to be teaching this in Semester 2). One teacher, for whom I had actually served as mentor in her first year, was fantastic in this situation--so on top of using all sorts of fun techie things for her students. And teaching, teaching, teaching them French. She was also single. The other, with perhaps 20 years into teaching, and mother of 2 young children, was offering rather the opposite. Little time spent on French, long minutes while students had 'entered' class with teacher not present. Very interesting to eavesdrop on their conversations before class. The summary: Teachers were still being paid the same salary. I personally think we all should have taken a sizeable pay cut for that time out of school.

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FourWinds's avatar

Truth. I don't think parents would have had the knowledge of DEI (more like DIE) and the gender nonsense like they did after watching this so-called learning from home. I believe a school in CA, might have been WA, got busted for teaching how terrible the police were.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

It is indeed DIE--the equity piece only came through (in my suburban district) about 2019-20--the diversity ran on its own in the first decade, then inclusion came in (don't know how much of that stemmed from the Congress deciding that special ed kids couldn't be kept in their own wing of the school)--and on that topic---you wouldn't want to see (as I did whenever I had coverage duty for an absent teacher) how 'including' those children in regular ed classrooms degraded the education for all the normal kids.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

On the other hand (pursuant to my earlier response), although DIE is the chronologically-correct order of letters, using 'their' preferred order is an apt joke: DEI is Latin for "gods". Which I posit is how the Left views itself.

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RU's avatar

100%. "Education" "experts" are like "public health" "experts" in that they do almost the exact opposite of what the name of their field would imply, and they are experts only in the politics associated with those disciplines. They have no interest in actual expertise. The US spends among the most per student within the developed world and gets results similar to the undeveloped world. The "experts" in education, public health, and social work come in to "study" the situation and always inevitably conclude that it's not the teachers, the school administrators, the students, or their parents who are at fault. It's always us, everyone else. Society's fault. "Social determinants" of "health" or "education" or "success." It's been generations of fraud and grift, most notably in urban centers that have been run by Democrats for decades.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Yup. And so, for the 2 1/2 years I've been out, I have urged parents to get their children out of public school. And that was BEFORE all the grooming became so obvious (although it actually had been going on since Obama put a homosexual in charge of education)

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NAB's avatar

I can't tell you how many people say things like: "why do we need to keep talking about how the response was a failure? Why can't we just move on?" I relish these questions because I know that they know and that they likely supported the insanity.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

β€œWhy do we need to keep talking about [insert genocide here]? Why can’t we just move on?”

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Hmm. There are how many monuments/museums focussed on the horror of the Nazi campaign against Jews, Gypsies, Christian pastors? How about similar showcasing the horrors of the 'lockdowns'?

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Also: the now-debilitated "physics girl" ultravaxxer is perfectly representative of the ANTI-science of Team Unreality, including Hotez et al - they blame Covid with no scientific evidence whatsoever, when any evidence that is available points directly to the jab. And yes, in science, consistent anecdotes support other evidence, it's called diagnostic medicine. For example, I'll wager they can't come up with a single unjabbed person who has anything like this cascade of disease that the "physics girl" has, but Jeff found plenty of such jab cases with a quick search.

In another example of her utter lack of self-awareness and hypocrisy, she doesn't even realize that "girl" is now an offensive term to her people, the Leftists. Never to be used by them for anyone over age 10, and for most of them, not even for small children. Even "female" is becoming an offensive term for her peopl, right?!?. So she's Woke only on her terms, except when she's funning. Ok then, girlie! Woke Fever.

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Uncle Juan's avatar

And hopefully a higher percentage of the populous will resist.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

populace?

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Annie's avatar

Agree. These articles are part from tptb to try to control the narrative and part from tptb have lost control of the narrative. Many do not believe the establishment medical and media.

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ILoveherbs's avatar

Would you please explain what "tptb" is. Thank you.

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Natalie O.'s avatar

The powers that be

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Annie's avatar

The powers that be. Tptb

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Chevrus's avatar

And here it is used in a sentence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QZvoOqUkqw

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Lisa Siferd's avatar

Tptb is "the powers that be"

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CaplT's avatar

The Plan was to lock down for 2 years to create frenzied demand for a vaccine and no one would question its safety or efficacy. That was derailed by premature release of the shots.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

CapIT--can you please provide source for the 2 year idea? Not snarking here-just curious

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

Remember that the Great Barrington Declaration provided an alternative to lockdowns. Of course our "experts" (Fauci, Collins, etc.) shot it down and the media and social media companies followed the approved narrative. Never forget.

Great Barrington Declaration

https://gbdeclaration.org/

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Datagal's avatar

Somehow, someone got the governments to follow the supposed successful β€œChinese” model of locking down. It was likely all planned to harm the west.

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CaplT's avatar

China said they were successfully quarantining the virus with lockdowns (with no proof) and opportunists jumped at it to further the goal of diktatorship.

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Uncle Juan's avatar

The worst thing about the lockdowns, was the compliance.

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Transcriber B's avatar

Yes, I think it was, but so many people were caught by surprise, thrown off balance, and not discerning. That's still true, but now there are many more of us who are wide awake, onto the con, and if the authorities try this tyrannical nonsense again, not only will we not comply, and we will push back ferociously.

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Uncle Juan's avatar

Yes we were... but many came to their senses quickly. Our church opened back up after 3 weeks of being locked down. We threw our masks away, except for the nazi airlines. We tried to push the envelope where ever could.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I initially was taken in but quickly had a a lot of unanswered questions and started to see the lies and manipulation.

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Transcriber B's avatar

Thank you for standing for freedom.

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Copernicus's avatar

I agree. This has been true of a lot of us.

Allan Stevo’s blog and Substack are worth reading as they bolster this push back ferociously way of thinking, in positive and productive ways.

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Transcriber B's avatar

This guy? https://realstevo.substack.com/

Thanks, looks fun.

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Copernicus's avatar

YES!

He is great. Helps me look at particular issues with greater clarity. What we all needed in March 2020. Or as he refers to it, the Ides of March 2020.

Example, using his strategies, I determinedly obtained mask- and face shield-free access to our public library for our kiddo and myself. Also, I recently informed a new homeschool co-op whose policies include a nod to following The Ones re Viral guidance that, should anything like that recur, our family does not wear masks.

No explanation. No nothing. Not that we can’t wear them. Simply that we don’t.

And, as I anticipated, the admin’s response was supportive and in agreement. They put that in there during The Mess (and required masks, unfortunately), because some parents said they wouldn’t send their kids if they didn’t enforce masks. πŸ™„

Hopefully, if there is a second time β€˜round, the admins will operate from a place of greater strength and simply say β€œno. Here’s your refund.”

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Selfish adults; let their children wear masks...fine. But no way should they be forcing others around them to do so. Homeschool them if you don’t want your masked kid around others who aren’t.

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Copernicus's avatar

Well, these folks were already homeschooling and using a co-op for individual classes one day a week. And I agree, pull your child out and deal with it at home if you are that afraid.

Hopefully now those parents have realized that masks were all theater anyway.

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devoalan's avatar

Btw, ty for doing what you do!

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Transcriber B's avatar

Thanks for reading.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

The worst part about ALL OF THIS has been the compliance.

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LMWC's avatar

I never bought it but I was stunned on how everything seemed to just shut down. Why could I get into any big box store, but churches, schools, hospitals, literally everything was closed down? It never made sense but people complied. By the time hospitals and doctor’s offices opened up again, people did all the protocols and wore the masks so they simply could get out again and be seen. The crap that schools in this state had to go through just to reopen in the fall of 2020 was unbelievable. Many didn’t reopen, it was easier on the adults and they were promised monetary incentives for not reopening as were many churches.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I never wore masks except when I had to fly and even then, I had it below my nose the majority of the flight. As a healthcare professional I know that masks are useless except to protect from blood or body fluid splashes that could enter your body through your nose or mouth. It was truly insulting to the intelligence of those who have had to use masks professionally. Yet even many professionals and healthcare facilities went along with the charade. I hope most people have woken up and have the courage to resist next time....

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LMWC's avatar

They have not awakened from what I still see in big box stores every time I am in one. And many hospitals are still requiring them in certain areas. I still know health care people who believe they were needed.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Then they’re willfully and knowingly perpetuating a false narrative and should be ashamed of themselves.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

That 501c3 is a really dangerous "carrot" for a church

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LMWC's avatar

I agree. I have been a member of the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod for most of my 60+ years. When the lockdowns came, I discovered quickly all the LCMS in my state, shut down at the same time and reopened at exactly the same time. I believe all of this came down from the top of the LCMS. Churches were heavily reimbursed for being closed for 3 months or longer by the government. My church which was never in the black financially, is suddenly very much so. I started attending a country Charismatic church because of the way my old church handled covid. I am still a member of the LCMS, as I love the day school attached to the church, but I now view it with realistic eyes. The Lutheran church for a century had at least two groups which were essentially insurance groups. A decade ago they combined to form one large group to offer life planning packages to a broader base. I have remained am associate member, paying yearly fees, though I own no product. At one time Thrivent was active in helping emergencies such as victims of natural disasters, but the emphasis has changed to investing in them. They put out a slick magazine quarterly. The latest publication made the decision to end my associate membership easy. They have now hired a DEI director and he wrote about all Thrivent plans to do to promote β€œdiversity, equity, and inclusiveness”. They have been coerced into this β€œword salad” of bs or monetarily incentivized to create such a department; likely both.

I have seen too many Christian run businesses and charities with sudden name changes to be more non-anything and everything.

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Transcriber B's avatar

Thanks for this.

My personal upclose experience has been that many church-going individuals who claim to have read the Bible very closely, and even with no lack of charming authority taught the Bible in Sunday School, when it came to cooties and the unjabbed-with-cooties-juice, suddenly went blank as if enchanted by the Cloven One on whole swaths of it.

PS Don't get me started about the churches that make their nut renting out their steeples for antennae and cell phone towers.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Oh my gracious. Renting out the steeple.

Hmmm--fave song of my children (~35-40 years ago): The church is not a building, the church is not a steeple........

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Yes, Thrivent. One in my husband's business building.

PCUSA --on website--said our position is NO vax exemptions--PC members have a (moral?) duty to take the vax.

Makes absolutely no sense

except....

"Mainline" denominations have been bleeding members (=$$ for quite a many years)

Government steps in to turn red columns black

And

Bob's your uncle!

and then, sometime in last 5-8 years, adopted a hymnal with 'feminist theology' (hymns referring to God as a female. Guess Jesus was clueless when he referred to his father as "Abba".

Apologies for all the apostrophes. But not really.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Just re-read your last sentence--the sudden name changes. Hmm.

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LMWC's avatar

The Michigan Missouri Synod-Lutheran Church has for decades supported an adult special needs home in Wisconsin. This is done through fund raisers or resale shops. The resale shop in my area has been in business for decades. It was run by lady volunteers from the various churches. I have always supported the resale shop and the adult care home in Wisconsin. Both were called β€œBethesda”. I noticed after covid restrictions were eased the resale shop had a couple of paid managers and younger people working there. Then I received a letter from the adult home informing me the name was being changed to Able Light. The resale shops name was also changed. No explanation was given for the name change.

I subscribed to Guideposts for years and got their year long daily devotional by the same name. This year the name was changed to β€œWalking in Grace”. Again no explanation, but I believe investment groups had a hand in it, and the trail leads ultimately back to Big Brother.

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daverkb's avatar

First of all, the Church is tax immune because the state has no standing to infringe upon, intrude into a jurisdiction greater than itself (Creator/creature distinction). However, LBJ came along and offered an insurrectional means by which to subordinate the Church to state, and thereby compromise the Church's separation from the state. With 501c3 the window was tacitly by consent opened for the state to dictate to, infringe upon the Church. Lock-downs would be a further expansion of state dictate by a taking. Really a kind of theft.

The crux of the matter is that God the Sovereign is either the apex Absolute Sovereign, Lord and Master over all of His Creation? Or else a Pretend God, citizen/subject of and to the state.

The source of all of our troubles begins once atheist Man decides to overthrow God and seize all power unto himself using the state as the means to his end.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

With you, daverkb. Either or. And noticed for decades that lefty/progressives have what appears to be a "God-shaped hole" in their hearts. Like a hole dug in sand right by the water, filling slowly, but surely, with water; the hole meant to be filled with the Creator will be filled. Just my take from what I have noticed for more than a while.

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CMCM's avatar

Another great Dennis Prager quote is something like this: "When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing, they'll believe in anything."

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Tonya's avatar

"lockdown policy made little or no difference in saving lives, but had massive destructive effects."

Just like all the sane people warned would happen 3 years ago.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Conspiratorialists are right again. Seems we're batting 100.

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Annie's avatar

Being called a right wing conspiracy theorist is a huge compliment as far as I am concerned. πŸ™‚

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Salty K's avatar

I prefer β€œbullshit analyst” πŸ€“

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Jane Teller's avatar

When people call me a conspiracy theorist, I tell them criminal conspiracy is in the legal canon and simply means two or more people who plan to commit a criminal act. I then tell them the origin of the phrase - Allen Dulles in 1967 attempting (successfully) to throw everyone off the trail of the JFK assassins, Dulles of course being a major one. It kind of stops people in their tracks, the thought that conspiracies are real.

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Copernicus's avatar

What, again, exactly, were we conspiring about? Plotting and scheming together to do?

πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰

I’ve been in a feisty mindset recently with regard to the use of the word β€œconspiracy,” because it is used completely unhinged from its original meaning.

Calling out the possible errors of others, or pointing out ways the commonly held belief is perhaps not true is hardly the same as working together to carry out a plot.

I’m being cantankerous. Haha.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I agree and have a similar reaction to the use of β€œphobic” because I refuse to celebrate and fawn over certain favored groups πŸ™„ I don’t fear them, I just either am wary of them or simply don’t care to act like they’re so wonderful.

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Copernicus's avatar

Yes!

Ever since way back when, when They started attaching that to words to disparage, I wanted to shout the same thing. I am NOT AFRAID of x, y, or x people. I just don’t agree with x, y, or x

Funny how no one ever gets accused of being a Christophobe or a heterophobe or a Judeophobe. πŸ€”

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RunningLogic's avatar

Those would probably be more accurate descriptors πŸ˜†

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

And it's not just any old fear, but a really overwhelming one.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yeah like we’re all shaking in our boots every time we see one of these people πŸ™„

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I appreciate the origin --con (from cum, with) + spiratio (a breathing)

A picture of a very small group so close together that they are breathing each other's exhalation.

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Copernicus's avatar

I still fail to see how happening to hold views similar to others yet that happen to be disparate from The Accepted Explanations qualifies as conspiracy.

If conspiracy folks are merely those who are closely aligned, well, then, Fauchi and Berx and Wallenskie are all conspiracy theorists. They think masks stop microscopic particles, that closing everyone indoors is a great way to promote health, that sunshine has zero effect on health, and that dangerous gene shots are also required for longevity and health. Everyone knows those things are not true.

I’m not trying to be contrarian to you. πŸ˜‰. I happen to really like etymology.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Etym is the best!

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CaplT's avatar

Conspiracy facts.

Lie detectors.

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FourWinds's avatar

Conspiracy theorist and darn proud of it!

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Some conspiracies are right. Some are wrong.

Covid was used as a weapon to unseat one of the best presidents we ever had and also launder enormous amounts of money.

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Datagal's avatar

Speaking of sane, I’ve been thinking about the last three years and realizing that resisting the edicts and the jabs wasn’t that hard. Yes, I’m retired and don’t have school kids, so I didn’t have those pressures. But, psychologically, I just knew what was right and wrong and just stuck to my principles. I was shunned and criticized but it just didn’t bother me that much. I guess I’m not β€œone of the herd”. Plus I had fellow contrarians’ support on sites like C and C!

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Deb S's avatar

It certainly helped to know we weren’t alone! That is, perhaps, the best thing about C&C. It’s easier to be strong when you know there are others out there who aren’t good little sheep.

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Datagal's avatar

I recall helping a friend who did not have our kind of support. She would call me crying and I’d tell her she’s not alone, plus send her some of the Substacks and memes. She is so grateful that I helped her stick to her convictions!

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rolandttg's avatar

Same here. I was the only person in Costco more than once with no mask. No one said a word. I didn't slink around or avoid people, or even avoid looking at their faces. If enough people had done this, the jab campaign would never have worked like it did. One simple act of civil disobedience, yet almost no one could muster the stones to do it. The nation as a whole deserves what is coming, but people like this forum are all going to suffer for their jellyfish brethren

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CMCM's avatar

Fairly early on in the mask mandate era, I decided to never voluntarily don a mask. I went into so many stores including Costco without a mask, and I decided THEY would have to accost me about it. When there were door guards for masks, I'd sometimes wear a mask to get in the door and then I'd immediatelytake it off. I was virtually never approached by anyone about it, they were too cowardly I think. I was in a ski shop one time and a young masked man came up to me about my being maskless, and I proceeded to launch into an "educational" response about what they now know and admit about how masks are useless. He didn't know what to say, and he had that deer in the headlights look. I remained maskless, he said no more. I confess I enjoyed the whole thing.

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Datagal's avatar

Good for you! I recall telling people at a dinner party that the jabs don’t prevent infection, just reduce symptoms. I even quoted the f-ing EUA applications! But people got all upset and told me to be quiet. Have any of them now told me I was right? No.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

I’d try to get the comment in that masking deprives the brain of needed oxygen while poisoning one w/ carbon dioxide.

Plants need carbon dioxide; people don’t.

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CaplT's avatar

Digital currency will be harder to avoid - debanking people who are not compliant with the edict of the week.

People have to eat, pay mortgage, insurance, drive cars, buy gas and electric.

Rolling out this month.

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KGer's avatar

None of it ever made any kind of sense, and the destruction continues.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Anyone else find it hilarious that The Guardian is out with an article about Sound of Freedom….stating it is a β€œQAnon-adjacent thriller SEDUCING America” and says it is a child trafficking paranoia?

Could they make themselves any more transparent? Hahahahaha. It’s a box office hit. TPTB tried so hard to shut it down and so many never even heard of it because of that…..until We The People started promoting it and telling our friends and families to go see it.

Hahaha β€œSEDUCING” America. If we acknowledge child sex trafficking we are β€œPARANOID”. Ya, keep saying that. πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Sunnydaze, The Guardian in 2018 on this same story: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/dec/23/child-sex-trafficking-rife-colombia-cartagena

The Guardian Jul 2023 on this same story: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/jul/06/sound-of-freedom-movie-qanon-jim-caviezel

And remember, this movie was made...five years ago.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Yes. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds! I’d say I was shocked but I really am not.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Five years ago the issue of child trafficking a real problem.

This movie -- on this topic -- finishes production five years ago. Can't find a studio to release it.

Today, the movie about the issue covered five years ago by the same publication gets called "paranoid."

Pathetic.

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rolandttg's avatar

good find. sure like it really ties in with the movie

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RunningLogic's avatar

I loved Mira Sorvino’s response to that. There were lots of other good tweet responses too.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

What was her response? I haven’t seen any tweets cuz I don’t get on there.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I don’t either, but I get emails from Twitchy (started by Michelle Malkin years ago) of various curated tweets on political subjects.

This is what she said:

Mira Sorvino @MiraSorvino β€’ 3d Sound of Freedom is NOT a political movie. It's a beautiful, inspiring film w/an uplifting ending that should ignite a πŸ”₯in every viewer's ❀️ to get involved to end #childsextrafficking of 2 million+ kids in

our day. #endit @AngelStudios Inc Mira Sorvino

(@mirasorvino)

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Excellent. She’s right. It shouldn’t be a political issue. It’s a humanity issue. Thanks for sharing it.

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RunningLogic's avatar

You’re welcome! I was pleasantly surprised to see that, I wouldn’t have expected her to be so ardently supportive.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

John Cambell reacts to a Denmark study that showed that certain vaccine batches were thousands of times more deadly. "71% of the suspected adverse reactions occurred in 4.2% of the vaccine batches"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZAso_eLJLI

Here's the study: "Batch-dependent safety of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccine"

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.13998

Twitter thread https://twitter.com/Perpetualmaniac/status/1676725699670077442

(Interesting how Dr. John Campbell use to be a vax pusher on YouTube, but as he presented results from the vax campaigns, he noticed the emerging disaster. Now he's pretty much an anti-vaxxer, struggling with censorship and deplatforming...)

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

He has a substack now

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Which is smart.

No covid censorship, and a reliable payment system, unlike big tech platforms which demonetize anything against the narrative.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Substack ... and if you prefer video presentations, post them on Rumble.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

He actually doesn’t accept paid subscribers, he shares a link to donate to a cause, I can’t recall the link offhand.

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Daily Growler's avatar

I read somewhere that about 30% of the people vaccinated in Europe reported zero, that's right, zero serious adverse effects, and that the batches of vaccine they received were never subjected to quality control testing. The writer hypothesized that the untested batches contained saline and were used to counteract the bad "numbers" generated by the approximately 5% of batches that were killing people and were quickly pulled off the market. I can't remember where I saw this, but I will try to find the link.

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Datagal's avatar

That’s the Danish study discussed elsewhere in these comments. But check out Jessica Rose’s Substack questioning the Danish β€œplacebo” claim.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

My brother in law had zero reactions to the test version of the covid shot he got from work so I suspect he got the saline. I hope he did for his health's sake.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Craig Pardekooper, How Bad is My Batch

Lots more good stuff on there now---search batch number by zip code, search zip code for which pharmacy/med practice received. I shuddered to find a local pediatric practice on that list (but not my primary care group).

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CMCM's avatar

Whatever the number is, it's definitely curious. Obviously there have been a lot of adverse reactions in various places. Of the people in my family and who I know that are vaxxed to the max, I have yet to know personally of a bad reaction. Yet. I do live in California, which is deeply and irretrievably blue (despite having a lot of R's in the rural areas). I've wondered if blue states got fewer dangerous batches.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Yep, THAT study is frightening as hell - and telling.

Good on them for having the foresight to set that up and monitor. By gosh! THAT sounds like a Safety Study - get it, USA ?

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CindyArizona's avatar

As someone who has dealt with Mast Cell Activation Syndrome for most of my life (I was in my 30’s before being diagnosed) the one thing I’m absolutely sure of and which a good doctor deemed urgent was that I never take any vaccines. Period. When the jab nightmare started she called me to make sure I was not going to go anywhere near that poison. I’ve had anaphylactic reactions to vaccines, antibiotics, food, mold, etc. The condition is manageable with education, persistence and discipline.

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Julia C's avatar

I was diagnosed in my 30’s also (2016) but we now know I’ve been having anaphylaxis episodes since at least 2007. Let me just say....I was seeing one of the top MCAS specialists in the country, maybe even dare I say the world, I think she is that well known in the MCAS circle, and despite my MCAS and idiopathic anaphylaxis she tried to guilt trip me into getting the shot. She headed a study that tried to prove how β€œsafe” it was for Mastocytosis and MCAS patients to get the shot, and tried to use that study to tell me it was safe because they were fine. I told her, β€œyou only had 3 people in your study.” At that time her control group was literally 3 people! Then she lied to my face and told me that if I didn’t get the shot and ended up getting COVID, β€œthere was nothing that could be done for me.” I called her out and told her that wasn’t the truth because, at that time, monoclonal antibodies were readily available to me. And even if I had no intention of touching it, they were giving Remdesivir then. That’s not β€œno treatment.” So then she tells me, well yes, there *is* monoclonals but, they are only 30% effective...the number at that time was actually about 75-80%. After all this back and forth, she admits she just prefers everyone gets vaccinated. This is what I had to contend with. Luckily I was a former nurse and very researched but, not every chronically ill patient coming in there probably stood up for themselves and I’m sure just trusted her and gave in. My research has also prompted me to stop getting flu shots. I used to get two a year because I’m on immunosuppressive medication, as recommended by my docs, never though anything of it. Then I discovered I’d tested positive for a formaldehyde allergy in 2006 and they continued to recommend I get flu shots despite them having formaldehyde in them that whole time. I was basically poisoning myself twice a year. I’m really mad about that one.

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daverkb's avatar

So very often the medical profession appears to be some kind of weird Confederacy of Dunces! And so often bad advice after bad advice. And my! What a Whack-a-Doodle World alpha to omega! It's like living in an Insane Asylum. Things are the point where everything is simple not to be any longer endured, put up with!

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Julia C's avatar

I have learned so much over the years, both from my time working in the nursing field in in a family practice and also as a chronic disorder patient who sees over 10 specialists. I am extremely hyper vigilant with all aspects of my disorders and the care surrounding them now. I’ve learned how to advocate for myself pretty well now although I will admit there are times it’s still a challenge when you encounter egotistical, stubborn providers who clearly try and intimidate you. But yes I agree, half the time I clearly feel like I’m living in…you say the insane asylum, I tend to say use the phrase the Twilight Zone, lol.

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daverkb's avatar

Thanks for writing ... and we love nurses, especially the good old-fashioned kind. I was in the hospital once, and gosh I loved those nurses. And one does not really know what nurses give and do until one is in trouble. And so often, nurses are smarter than doctors.

Totally Insane, inverted reality insane. Insanity everywhere.

I don't know what happened to you, but I sure do hope things get better. It can't be any fun.

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Julia C's avatar

Yes there truly is an inverted reality in a lot of ways in the medical field. I had to β€œretire” in 2015 due to my health and a part of me is really thankful I was spared having to deal with any of the COVID stuff in a working capacity. As far as the patient side of things, with the vaccine stuff I already typed as well as what I went through with trying to get a masking exemption, I could seriously write a book about what happened to me during COVID. Crazy.

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RunningLogic's avatar

And yet, I’m betting many places would’ve denied your medical exemption if she’d written one for you πŸ˜•

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CindyArizona's avatar

Hell yes! Thankfully I’m retired so there was no corporate overlord dictating my health care decisions.

I was lectured by a different doctor about my refusal to get jabbed. Not only was I protected by natural immunity post infection but I’m clearly not a candidate according to my medical records. She badgered me enough that I told her she was an idiot and walked out of her office. COVID should have made crystal clear to everyone with a brain that we all need to advocate for ourselves and our children. And be bold about it. No more cow towing to doctors because they’re supposedly the experts!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good for you! And agree with your conclusions 100%!!

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Copernicus's avatar

That is so awesome. Your response to that Dr.

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CindyArizona's avatar

Well, her pushing me to vaccinate while disregarding my medical history and natural immunity put her squarely in the idiot category.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

I’ve changed 2 of my longstanding doctors bc of shot recommendations & masks. Happy have 2 replacements who β€œget it.”

If there’s a next time (God forbid) I’m covered.

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FourWinds's avatar

Wow, an intelligent and non-bought out doctor... those are rare indeed! Glad you found a good one!!

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CindyArizona's avatar

Her specialty is functional medicine and naturopathy. It’s been impossible to find an allopath who isn’t owned by big Pharma.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Fauci never treated one covid positive patient in the hospital...ever.

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KGer's avatar

Fauci never treated anyone but himself and that was to a huge pile of money!

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RunningLogic's avatar

🎯🎯🎯

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

He's the highest paid employee in the gov and retirement history. He gets roughly 400k a year. That's the same as the president.

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CStone's avatar

To my understanding, Fauci never, ever treated a patient in his entire life.......anywhere, did he?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I was under the same impression. Apparently, he went straight from med school to "research."

It takes a lot of work to be a murdering psychopath for 40 years.

...started with the AIDS crisis. Denying patients from getting low cost generic drugs and forcing the expensive death drug AZT on them.

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RunningLogic's avatar

He’s just evil.

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Jane Teller's avatar

These days I tell people Fauci is the biggest medical mass murderer in history.

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Ellen Komorowski's avatar

Me too!

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

POS πŸ’© =Fauci

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🌱NardπŸ™'s avatar

Treated? Nope. Experimented? Yep.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Are y'all talkin' 'bout Worm Tongue?

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Bgagnon's avatar

That is obe of the commebts made by Kary Mullis, iriginal inventor and Nobel award winner of pcr test. He never had anything good to say about fauci the fraud!

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FourWinds's avatar

I'm not sure if Fauci has ever done anything positive for anyone medically.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

he sure made lots of piss poor calls on policies for the rest of us too

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crystal01681's avatar

I swear I have PTSD from the Covid years! I worried more for my grandson and how the lockdowns were going to affect him than I did for anyone else! It def hindered his momentum academically, but he’s working on gaining it all back. I saw firsthand how the kids were supposed to be learning and it hurt me to see them at home everyday on these little chrome books trying to do their work. What a farce! Up all night with their friends playing XBox and then trying not to fall asleep during class from their beds! NOT DOABLE! There’s a special place somewhere else for these people who ran this unjust experiment.....And there were so many so-called leaders in on it! I hope we NEVER FORGET!

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JW's avatar

Or let them all experience what lockdown is like, in jail, for life.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Since they love lockdowns so much πŸ˜‘

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Early 2020 America was WILD.

We had people walking aroudn with buckets on their heads

Dirty underwear

People screaming at others for being too close

People sneezing and sniffling (like me) with seasonal allergies getting run out of a store.

People wearing full bio suits. Pro masks.

It's wild.

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Treemcg's avatar

Mr. Childers: Keep on writing these informative and humorous essays. Remember that although you are just an attorney, you have the same medical degree and immunology degree as Dr. Tedros and Bill Gates have.

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The Fifster's avatar

I'll stick with "Dr." Childers...even for minor surgery..

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

And Albert Bourla, the vet.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

He also has zero military acumen as evidenced by his pro-Russian posts.

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Roger Beal's avatar

If you, along with me, understand that the lockdown policies were NEVER about public health, but were ALWAYS about training the citizenry to accept total invasive control of their lives, then, YES, the lockdown policies were a roaring success.

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Tom's avatar

It also gave the "stakeholders" a way to measure compliance.

They needed a way to gauge the effectiveness of their information operation.

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FourWinds's avatar

I still think "covid" was a dress rehearsal for whatever crap they are planning next.

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

The scariest thing about the lockdown policies, etc. was the fact that so many of my fellow citizens just rolled over and accepted it without a whimper.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

That was the most terrifying part for me as well.

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FourWinds's avatar

Being the rebellious person I have always been and will always be, I disobeyed them for the sake of doing so, but more for the fact that they are and were dead wrong. I'm sure there is more than one video around Ohio archives of me driving along the freeways and flipping off the "stay home" billboards. The number of sheep who blindly followed was terrifying to me.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

I did the same, whilst talking aloud to myself.

I still drive by masked young zombies walking, all alone, or sitting on bus stop benches, all alone, heads down, on their phone.

I nearly went crazy. I was completely surrounded by Covidian Zombies.

Still am.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Thus says the Lord,

β€œHeaven is My throne and the earth is My footstool.

Where then is a house you could build for Me?

And where is a place that I may rest?

For My hand made all these things,

Thus all these things came into being,” declares the Lord.

β€œBut to this one I will look,

To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.”

β€” Isaiah 66:1-2 NASB1995

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Whew!! I was just about to give up or do it myself!!

Thank you! β™₯️ πŸ€—

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

What did I save you from doing yourself? :D

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Posting scripture of course! We count on you to hit just the right note.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Ah, I see. Sorry, lately Jeff’s posting and my sleeping schedule (if you can call it that) have not been synchronized. πŸ₯±πŸ˜

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Reading and copying wonderful Scripture for the 'gang ' here. 🀣

I'm sorry you're "off". πŸ™πŸΌ

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Just acquired my 48th doctor in 4 1/2 years. Fun times!

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

That gives me great purpose! Thanks also for the sympathy. :)

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Essay33's avatar

I find it completely plausible that the likelihood Ukrainian children will die from "dud" bomblets actually appeals to the people running this administration. Everything they do from the aggressive encouraging of abortion to promoting the sexualization of children to endorsing their sterilization and mutilation is geared to the destruction of children.

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FourWinds's avatar

Add in lockdowns, thus teaching kids to be terrified, to follow orders without question, to not gain needed socialization skills, etc. No one in this administration gives a darn about kids. Oh, and the push to accept pedos as "normal".

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