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Janet's avatar

A 16 yo boy died in my small town Friday. “Sudden and unexpected “death reported. This phrasing has not in the past been used for accident death as I recall and nothing is being said about cause of death. No police reports of a car accident. Just silence. I mentioned this to a friend and she remarked that this happened a lot in the past. He wasn’t an athlete. I called bullsh*t. In any case, prayers for this unimaginable loss.

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Chevrus's avatar

During Peak Covid Narrative I cited the massive spike in professional athlete deaths, and my mothers knee-jerk response was: That happens all the time!!

The thing is she did not even consider the evidence. It’s really all about coping because to accept the reality of being repeatedly lied to and abused is not something that most people can comfortably handle....soooooo the “safe space” ends up being a warm fuzzy and largely ignorant echo chamber.

I get accused of being grumpy and negative and to a certain extent that is the case...but the other end of the spectrum has the subject in complete denial of the approaching freight train, loaded to the gills on mood stabilizers and mowed down in a state of artificial bliss. I’ll prepare accordingly thanks.

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Not Me's avatar

‘There are none so blind as those that will not see.” Nothing gets better if we can’t face the truth and deal with it.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

For the people of this generation:

“And he said, “Go, and say to this people: “‘Keep on hearing, but do not understand; keep on seeing, but do not perceive.’ Make the heart of this people dull, and their ears heavy, and blind their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed.”

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Mary H.'s avatar

Hosea 4:6:

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because you have rejected knowledge, I reject you from being a priest to me. And since you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children.

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Politico Phil's avatar

It pains me to say it but this is exactly applicable to today's churches in America. This one verse more than any other is the "writing on the wall" for the USA. The modern church has rejected knowledge and forgotten that God's Law even exists.

The consequences? Since Roe v Wade in '73, nearly 70 MILLION children have been killed in the womb. Now they are explicitly killing the children with the death shot. The church has abandoned Knowledge and God's Law for over a century. We forgot God's Law so He has forgotten our children.

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Dena's avatar

Check out Eric Metaxas’ new book “Letter to the American Church” warning them to wake up. He also wrote a great biography on D Bonhoeffer. https://ericmetaxas.com/

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ThreeArchBay's avatar

Biglino's "The Naked Bible" is even better... I wish all religious nutrolls here would read it completely.

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Kim D's avatar

In regard to AZJJ's reference to The Naked Bible: This view of E.T.s and space aliens is one that has been used to undermine the mystery of Golgotha by Santanists. A space invasion has been carefully inserted in the modern psyche to easily accept it as reality should they try to use it as a false flag. A book by Rudolf Steiner explains The Christ and human evolution: https://www.amazon.com/Approaching-Mystery-Golgotha-Rudolf-Steiner/dp/0880106069

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ThreeArchBay's avatar

LOL!!

have you read it?

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Special Ted's avatar

Why would we read the equivalent of toilet paper? I may be a 'religious nutroll" but at least I don't worship the created over the Creator. Go sell your new age BS somewhere else, false prophet.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

The overpopulation hoax.... aka... lies.... https://youtu.be/KxQSyhSaRp8?si=UrTPeDtkDaRDCyMZ

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Mary H.'s avatar

Truth.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Rejected knowledge, and injected poison. Injected into bodies, injected into brains.

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Emily 🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼's avatar

You are not alone. At all. Not at all.

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Chevrus's avatar

Well gee thanks. It’s just so frustrating when people function as if :

“Well that may be true but I dont wanna exist in a world where that is possible”

WHAT?! Do you realize that attitudes like this were swiftly removed from the gene Poole in the not so distant past?

Mother Nature and her sidekick The WALL have a way of making that happen….

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ENCmd's avatar

Good reason to be grumpy and negative! Keep up the good fight!

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Dana Hope's avatar

I had a similar conversation with a very intelligent, independent thinking, pro vax friend. I asked if she saw anything askew about the high numbers of young people (especially athletes) dropping dead & her strongly worded response was “It’s drugs!” So no one abused drugs at this level prior to 2021? The cognitive dissonance is everywhere.

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Chevrus's avatar

Which is why I concocted the expression @AnythingButDa’Jabs!

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The Keys's avatar

I was at a gathering the other day, and I showed a woman I was chatting with a stream of pictures of young people who had died from the vax. She herself was unvaccinated but her husband wasn’t. She looked for a moment at what I was showing her on my phone and then she had to look away. She looked toward her husband through the doorway in the living room with a look of fear, and In that instant, I understood the difficulty people have in knowing.

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Chevrus's avatar

Its as very tough pill to swallow. I have the same scenario, although i was not able to convince my wife. She was caught by the propaganda and begged and pleaded for me to get the shots.

I held fast and cited information about the mechanism of the shots.

“I dont think it does that”

What?! It’s on the frikkin brochure!!

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Anne Clifton's avatar

My half-sister is an athletic trainer at a large high school. When I first started posting about the rise in sudden deaths among athletes, she chastised me and said it has always happened. She refused to acknowledge that the number of cases had increased. I don't know if her views are the same now, a couple of years later. We were never extremely close, but my stance on the vaccines has added awkwardness to the relationship.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Even with evidence right in front of them. Seems they'd be slightly curious?

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Anne Clifton's avatar

It probably didn't help that I advised her half-sister (it's a complicated family) not to be vaccinated. This woman is severely disabled and w as worried about getting the vaccine. She asked my opinion. I'm not sure what she decided; her mother and my half-sister surely pressured her to be jabbed. (Side note: Why can't parents stay together and spare their children all the complicated and hurtful situations that come with divorce?)

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Liz Shelby's avatar

I lived in one of those households you think are better than divorce, believe you me they are not. They are complete and utter torture. Children in households with parents who should have gotten a divorce are much more miserable than those of divorced parents. You don't know who you can talk to, without it being seen as taking sides, what you can say or when, so you end up living a solitary life even when there are 4 other siblings in the home. Life is too short to be miserable, it is completely unfair to stretch that misery into your childs life too.

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Jeff C's avatar

Parents who fight and try and turn children against the other parent really are awful, there isn't much more reprehensible behavior. It's not that hard to get along if there's a will to do so.

It really is a sign of our spoiled and narcissistic culture that grown adults cannot behave themselves and act responsibly in front of children. No one has to act out on their emotions, it is a choice to do so. People also choose to be miserable and take their misery out on others. They could choose to keep their mouth shut and slap a smile on their face, instead yelling and screaming at each other is a conscious, selfish act.

I'm sorry you had to go through this and wish your parents had behaved differently. But understand that they chose to behave the way they did despite the horrible effects on the children. No one forced them to do this, yet they didn't care. I say this so hopefully you don't make the same mistake with your kids (if you have them), and also so you can keep it in mind when your elderly parents now try and manipulate you through guilt.

You didn't deserve this, and recognize your parents chose to make the house miserable. Forgive them (for your own benefit) but don't forget. You have no obligation to participate in their dysfunction. People rarely change, but if they do (by the grace of God) it will be obvious.

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Liz Shelby's avatar

Thank you but there is no need for concern.

I am almost 70, my parents have both long since passed and were brought up to believe that "until death us do part" meant just that, even if you discovered that you actually had nothing in common save for a baby, neither of you intended to make. But, it was considered "the right thing to do". I have forgiven them long ago. My reasoning being, they were both so wrapped up in their own misery they just didn't see what it was doing to us kids. They didn't do the usual yelling, screaming, throwing things and definitely no violence, they would just go months without speaking one word. I have often wondered how much happier they, and in turn we, would have been had they been able to divorce.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I totally agree with you! There are some cases where divorce is the only option. I am certainly not advocating for every marriage to continue, no matter the abuse, but I think the majority of divorces are due to infidelity, such as was true of my son's wife and my father. My son was willing to stay with his wife in order to keep his family together, but she left and has made it difficult for him to see his children. There's no excuse for either of the people I mentioned ending their marriages. As a Christian, I don't believe being happy is the ultimate goal.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Please pray for a family known to me.

Found out yesterday that the wife (who now claims she is a witch) is demanding that the husband no longer take their two children to the Traditional Mass.

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Kim D's avatar

It's a very confusing time for humanity with many different roads to take. I'm praying that the high road is the choice of this family and they will be devinely guided for their best life.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

😢🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Praying now.

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Artmama's avatar

I’m so sorry. The effects from divorce on children never seem to go away even into adulthood. It’s not spoken enough about.

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Fred's avatar

If you ever want to end that relationship permanently😁😢, ask why in heck they so often cannot be resuscitated with ACLS care immediately available. The rarity of success is a distinctly new phenomenon.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Sad but great point

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Liz Shelby's avatar

Ask your sis to name, lets say 5, athletes in any sport that died due to cardiac arrest either while in practise or in play, prior to 2020. Willing to bet she can't.......

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SB's avatar

All I know is many many health professionals now say they have ever seen anything like this and they have been in healthcare decades. Insurance companies are also seeing rises like never before

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Anne Clifton's avatar

My husband has been trying to get an appointment with his cardiologist for months. He's decided the doctors must be so busy with all the new patients with heart problems that their schedule is full. I cannot prove this in any way, but it seems ambulances are passing our house (in a rural area) more often lately, sometimes 2 or 3 times a day. Can't help but wonder . . .

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Rebecca Campbell's avatar

Send her the professors paper.

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Fred's avatar

Folks are not waking up! Almost a year out from ☠️ from stroke f/b glio, finally requested vax card image. “Why would you want that?” Gently responded “we’re seeing trends,” met with 🦗. Finally checked - yep - hot lots. Even given VAERS culling & underreporting, >>1/1000 stroke risk from one lot alone. And for Migraine suffering fam, astronomical numbers from one lot. Denies VI; don’t know whether to share.

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Janet's avatar

My sis has constant migraines now. I could ask, I guess. But would do no good. She’s all in.

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Fred's avatar

After 15 months of misery post jab, finally doing well with strict keto. Not as restrictive as I thought…

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Keto has good eating! I love this recipe. But I add Mexican Street corn and black beans, which isn’t really Keto. I did lose weight on strictly Keto.

https://www.savorytooth.com/instant-pot-salsa-chicken-soup/

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Fred's avatar

Awesome! She lives close and we eat together fairly often. Thanks!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And people on here advise President Trump to torpedo his campaign by going hard line antivax, when a very sizable chunk of the population is still staunchly defending them.😖😂

I wonder who will vote for RFK, Jr. now. Vax supporters won’t. And now he’s riled Independents and Never Trumpers with his reparations proposal.

I suppose he’ll get the votes of the hard line antivaxers, for whom the issue is #1; ahead of national security, the border, the economy and anything else.

That group is pretty well represented on this substack, but I think they’re not a very large percentage of the general population.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I also think that while there are tons of never vaxers here it may not be the #1 issue for them. Many see a bigger picture.

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Fred's avatar

Yep! Fortunately for the more politically naive like me, we have a wonderfully diverse group!

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Yessss! I concur, Fred!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Yes, I consider myself one of those.

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Janet's avatar

On second thought I was outside that morning and heard sirens heading up our main drag then stopping. Did this poor boy die in his sleep?

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CMCM's avatar

I've been wondering about the "sudden and unexpected" description being so common now in news reports and obits, almost as if it has become code for vaccine related death, but everyone is still to fearful to write it bluntly yet everyone knows what it means. In any case, in previous decades you might read "suddenly" here and there, but not the "sudden and unexpected" one you hear so much now.

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Janet's avatar

“Medical emergency” is now all they are saying as well.

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AJF's avatar

Well I always go back to SIDS deaths which have been happening for decades post vax. Docs don't blame vaccines, and parents never want to think they've given their infant anything that would harm them. Same with this shot cause remember, they are all 'SAFE & EFFECTIVE" and that's all you need to know.

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CMCM's avatar

One of the first SIDS deaths I read about long ago was Robert Redford's son in 1958. Polio? In 1970 when my daughter was born, SIDS was on every new mother's mind. But nothing was ever said about vaccines!

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Janet's avatar

Yes. Mine was born in 1972. I worried about it and did not think vaccines at all and back then not as many were given. But tragically it may take only one. That young man was a stellar student, promising mathematician and gave time to his community and church. GONE. His future, his parents joy and hope. Even if it wasn’t the vax it’s so very very sad.

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CaplT's avatar

COVID AUTOPSY needed. I hope the family gets angry enough to get one.

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