The same flight I was on (earlier in the week) was left on the tarmac in 115 degree weather for 4 h with NO AIRCONDITIONING. They had to transport a handful of people to the hospital and had to ditch the flight. On my flight - I am not exaggerating - were the largest group of the largest people I have ever seen on a flight ever (and I used to fly every week for my job). How that bird got aloft is some sort of miracle! One mad was so large there was no belt extender that could have wrapped around him. He was wide as a sofa. I'd say at least half of the passengers needed belt extenders. I had to hurdle people to get to the bathroom. The flight crew based out of Atlanta... one of them took time to tell the lady next to me that if she wanted water with ice to say "icewater" not "water with ice" if she wanted it. Delta. Never in my life have I seen such an unprofessional Delta (who I love) crew. Their butts were also gigantic. The ice lady's butt looked like 2 hungry hippos trying to free themselves from her skirt.
Such a contrast to the 60's when there were weight limits and ladies only as "stewardesses". Passengers also had a dress code and it was a classy event to fly. Gone are the good ole days.
I think that was true in the 70's too. We dressed up to fly. Stewardesses had to be good looking : ) I know men love the yoga pants on women, but I have just about had my eyeful. I truly hate them and wish they would be off limits for anyone not exercising. Seemed like the entire plane was covered in spandex, spider eyelashed and blinged out claws. Revolting. Maybe it was a prostitute convention.
The 80's and early 90's were good for flying. Call me nostalgic but I always thought flying was a classy affair and dressing and acting the part were appropriate, even for business.
The horrors you describe above..... the cattle drive for the clown show.
No I wasn't on that flight I was on the same run on another day that was also 115. LV to ATL. They had the air on. If they didn't, I would have been one of the people passing out and peeing myself. I get overheated quickly and I lose it. I should start wearing a necklace with my ID on it during the summer. The way Delta treated those passengers at every moment of that trip and after is so SO BAD. I bet it was the same crap crew out of ATL that I had. They were the rudest rudest people.
Another reason that I won't be flying any time soon! RUDENESS to customers it the "rule of the day" now - and actually RUDE INTERACTIONS between ANY people is deteriorating (another "offshoot" of "sheltering in place" and "social distancing".
Well, that won't happen to me because I am fortunate enough to never have to fly again. I've been out of the country 15+ times, the last time only a few weeks before the 2020 lockdowns, but that's it for me. I had already noticed a big difference in those years, with delays and cancellations becoming much more frequent, and now it is horrible!
Delta appeared to me to be the first airline to go woke. It was all over their in-flight magazine years ago. I tried to avoid them and their irritable flight attendants, but my alternative was usually AA and their junky equipment.
That sounds horrific. I remember when they used to have weight/size standards for flight attendants. Guess that no longer aligns with the body positive movement. Better and safer to turn a blind eye to obesity 😏
😂😂😂 Obesity is a problem, no doubt! I’ve heard horror stories about Delta lately. In one, their flight was canceled far from home, the couple had to rent a car and drive home, with no refund for the flight or reimbursement for rental.
Freebird, I only mentioned the size of people because I was so shocked by the numbers and the actual sizes being so incredibly big. Not your run of the mill 350 pound man taking up all the shoulder space and some seat space or a woman or two with big rumps who may need a seat belt extender. I flew a lot for work and I have never in my life seen such a thing.
I read that on the flight with 115 degree weather and no air they told the not sick people they could deplane but don't expect a seat to be waiting for them. They cancelled the flight and told them to come back the next day only to find the planned am flight was cancelled. Delta - the new Spirit Air.
I think the pandemic widened the waistlines. It did to me. I got a big butt. I went out, got a bike and peddled until I left the big butt along the side of the road. Still peddling.
I think it was a combination of being cooped up at home so much more and eating for comfort! Early on everyone joked about people gaining the covid 19, but I know people who put on 50 pounds!
I discovered the easiest way for me to lose weight, although I exercise to stay healthy, is time-restricted eating. I dropped 12 lbs in 2 months and I was not overweight, just wanted inches off my waist.
Pamela. I cried a little tear reading about your easy weight loss. I will assume you are young and have a hard time keeping weight on and hope you do NOT tell me you are a lady in your 50's. Haha. Congrats on getting those inches off! I too time restrict. 10 - 5. No snacks. My husband keeps 12-5. He drops weight if he stops eating nuts. Grrr. I have started doing keto because hubs does it and other ladies I know look terrific and have boundless energy. So far - I have good energy and I look the same. I really do think time restriction is a winner.
Raptor, I'm about to turn 74 and I got myself to my best weight ever a couple of years ago by eating mostly keto...cut all sugar, eating natural good fats, mostly no dairy, no grains of course, limit veggies to mostly green ones. I almost always managed a 14-16 hour fast between an early dinner and a late breakfast the next day. I ended up doing all my eating in an 8 hour period and I found I was good with just 2 meals a day: breakfast and dinner. When you switch your body over to a fat burning metabolism (takes a few days usually), it gets easy. No cravings, no major hunger, you end up eating less, and the weight drops off. You can do this at any age, and anyone who says you can't lose weight after a certain age is WRONG.
Thumbs up to you CMCM! Your reply was an inspiring way to start the day! I love that you did it in your 70's! IMO Keto plus exercise keeps the thin fat away )where the person is thin on outside and fat on inside). I base this on a limited sampling of people and how keto works. I know 2 people who developed insulin resistance and elevated liver enzymes as older folks. They are both endurance athletes. One is an Iron man competitor. The other exercises almost every day and is a terrific athlete. Long story short, they tossed aside the advice they were getting from docs, went on keto and returned their A1C (a measure of your blood glucose over a 3 month span) and their measures for liver enzymes dropped into normal range (meaning their liver lost its fat and became healthy again). Why people (mostly docs and people devoted to another way to eat)) dis this eating is somewhat of a mystery. Eat how you'd like and what works best for health. Congrats to you. What an inspiration!
Raptor, I should have elaborated about the ‘easy’ part. It was difficult to restrict my eating, and I did cut carbs and sugar. (I meant that of other ‘diets’ I’ve tried in the past, this one dropped the weight faster). As I got use to the time-restrictions, I lengthened them from 12 hours to 14/15.
Great news on your good energy; it does take time for the inch loss to kick in.
PS: I won’t tell you my age so not to discourage you. Hugs.
Thank you. Haha! I got on the scale this morning after vacation - and thought of you. Not kidding. Heading out for a ride before it hits the 100's. Blah.
Well it is sort of a flying bus. Last time I flew was May of 22 right after they dropped the stupid masks. I was so happy about that, the flights were awesome.
My airline mechanic husband pointed to a Southwest Airlines ad and said you can thank those people because they’re the ones who started the cheap fare thing then quality went downhill to compete.
They are actually the better of the lower cost airlines 😕 Spirit and Frontier and Allegiant are much worse. Along with Easyjet and Ryanair in Europe. OTOH, for short trips, I don’t really care about comfort that much. 1-2 hour flights are not a big deal. Of course I always care about safety but I don’t need a bunch of extras for a short direct flight. International and longer domestic flights are the ones where I really notice the difference. They’re pathetic compared to what they used to be. The only improvement is the individual screen on the seat back. Those big screens at the front were impossible to see for short people and kids 😛
Is there any such thing as a pleasant flight anymore? It feels like a dilapidated bus ride in a third world country.
The same flight I was on (earlier in the week) was left on the tarmac in 115 degree weather for 4 h with NO AIRCONDITIONING. They had to transport a handful of people to the hospital and had to ditch the flight. On my flight - I am not exaggerating - were the largest group of the largest people I have ever seen on a flight ever (and I used to fly every week for my job). How that bird got aloft is some sort of miracle! One mad was so large there was no belt extender that could have wrapped around him. He was wide as a sofa. I'd say at least half of the passengers needed belt extenders. I had to hurdle people to get to the bathroom. The flight crew based out of Atlanta... one of them took time to tell the lady next to me that if she wanted water with ice to say "icewater" not "water with ice" if she wanted it. Delta. Never in my life have I seen such an unprofessional Delta (who I love) crew. Their butts were also gigantic. The ice lady's butt looked like 2 hungry hippos trying to free themselves from her skirt.
Such a contrast to the 60's when there were weight limits and ladies only as "stewardesses". Passengers also had a dress code and it was a classy event to fly. Gone are the good ole days.
I think that was true in the 70's too. We dressed up to fly. Stewardesses had to be good looking : ) I know men love the yoga pants on women, but I have just about had my eyeful. I truly hate them and wish they would be off limits for anyone not exercising. Seemed like the entire plane was covered in spandex, spider eyelashed and blinged out claws. Revolting. Maybe it was a prostitute convention.
Or a mile high drag show. 😆
The 80's and early 90's were good for flying. Call me nostalgic but I always thought flying was a classy affair and dressing and acting the part were appropriate, even for business.
The horrors you describe above..... the cattle drive for the clown show.
Later Jay
Oh my goodness.. you were on the flight at the Vegas Airport? How in the world do they get away with not getting people off a plane in that situation...drop the stairs and unload on the tarmac maybe? Delta's response was unbelievable almost nonchalant like they just "lost your luggage". They are investigating and looking into circumstances of why it got so uncomfortable?? https://www.theblaze.com/news/passengers-aboard-idling-plane-pass-out-lose-control-of-their-bowels-in-sweltering-las-vegas-heat-and-no-air-conditioning-for-4-hours-report
No I wasn't on that flight I was on the same run on another day that was also 115. LV to ATL. They had the air on. If they didn't, I would have been one of the people passing out and peeing myself. I get overheated quickly and I lose it. I should start wearing a necklace with my ID on it during the summer. The way Delta treated those passengers at every moment of that trip and after is so SO BAD. I bet it was the same crap crew out of ATL that I had. They were the rudest rudest people.
Another reason that I won't be flying any time soon! RUDENESS to customers it the "rule of the day" now - and actually RUDE INTERACTIONS between ANY people is deteriorating (another "offshoot" of "sheltering in place" and "social distancing".
Well, that won't happen to me because I am fortunate enough to never have to fly again. I've been out of the country 15+ times, the last time only a few weeks before the 2020 lockdowns, but that's it for me. I had already noticed a big difference in those years, with delays and cancellations becoming much more frequent, and now it is horrible!
Delta appeared to me to be the first airline to go woke. It was all over their in-flight magazine years ago. I tried to avoid them and their irritable flight attendants, but my alternative was usually AA and their junky equipment.
That sounds horrific. I remember when they used to have weight/size standards for flight attendants. Guess that no longer aligns with the body positive movement. Better and safer to turn a blind eye to obesity 😏
At the very least your butt must fit down the aisle without giving passengers road rash on their faces.
Raptor--you are SOOOOOO BAAAAAD!!!
Lmao 😂
😂😂😂
Loved that metaphoric description of the female "hippo" passenger!! GEESH--I know I'm not flying anytime soon--my flying days were over years ago!!
😂😂😂 Obesity is a problem, no doubt! I’ve heard horror stories about Delta lately. In one, their flight was canceled far from home, the couple had to rent a car and drive home, with no refund for the flight or reimbursement for rental.
Freebird, I only mentioned the size of people because I was so shocked by the numbers and the actual sizes being so incredibly big. Not your run of the mill 350 pound man taking up all the shoulder space and some seat space or a woman or two with big rumps who may need a seat belt extender. I flew a lot for work and I have never in my life seen such a thing.
I read that on the flight with 115 degree weather and no air they told the not sick people they could deplane but don't expect a seat to be waiting for them. They cancelled the flight and told them to come back the next day only to find the planned am flight was cancelled. Delta - the new Spirit Air.
I think the pandemic widened the waistlines. It did to me. I got a big butt. I went out, got a bike and peddled until I left the big butt along the side of the road. Still peddling.
Thanks for the laughs today Raptor! Your frustrating flight made for some funny quips! And good for you girl - working your butt off! 😂
You are making me 😂 with your descriptions today! Covid definitely helped people pack on the weight. Made people lazy.
I think it was a combination of being cooped up at home so much more and eating for comfort! Early on everyone joked about people gaining the covid 19, but I know people who put on 50 pounds!
I discovered the easiest way for me to lose weight, although I exercise to stay healthy, is time-restricted eating. I dropped 12 lbs in 2 months and I was not overweight, just wanted inches off my waist.
Pamela. I cried a little tear reading about your easy weight loss. I will assume you are young and have a hard time keeping weight on and hope you do NOT tell me you are a lady in your 50's. Haha. Congrats on getting those inches off! I too time restrict. 10 - 5. No snacks. My husband keeps 12-5. He drops weight if he stops eating nuts. Grrr. I have started doing keto because hubs does it and other ladies I know look terrific and have boundless energy. So far - I have good energy and I look the same. I really do think time restriction is a winner.
Raptor, I'm about to turn 74 and I got myself to my best weight ever a couple of years ago by eating mostly keto...cut all sugar, eating natural good fats, mostly no dairy, no grains of course, limit veggies to mostly green ones. I almost always managed a 14-16 hour fast between an early dinner and a late breakfast the next day. I ended up doing all my eating in an 8 hour period and I found I was good with just 2 meals a day: breakfast and dinner. When you switch your body over to a fat burning metabolism (takes a few days usually), it gets easy. No cravings, no major hunger, you end up eating less, and the weight drops off. You can do this at any age, and anyone who says you can't lose weight after a certain age is WRONG.
Thumbs up to you CMCM! Your reply was an inspiring way to start the day! I love that you did it in your 70's! IMO Keto plus exercise keeps the thin fat away )where the person is thin on outside and fat on inside). I base this on a limited sampling of people and how keto works. I know 2 people who developed insulin resistance and elevated liver enzymes as older folks. They are both endurance athletes. One is an Iron man competitor. The other exercises almost every day and is a terrific athlete. Long story short, they tossed aside the advice they were getting from docs, went on keto and returned their A1C (a measure of your blood glucose over a 3 month span) and their measures for liver enzymes dropped into normal range (meaning their liver lost its fat and became healthy again). Why people (mostly docs and people devoted to another way to eat)) dis this eating is somewhat of a mystery. Eat how you'd like and what works best for health. Congrats to you. What an inspiration!
Raptor, I should have elaborated about the ‘easy’ part. It was difficult to restrict my eating, and I did cut carbs and sugar. (I meant that of other ‘diets’ I’ve tried in the past, this one dropped the weight faster). As I got use to the time-restrictions, I lengthened them from 12 hours to 14/15.
Great news on your good energy; it does take time for the inch loss to kick in.
PS: I won’t tell you my age so not to discourage you. Hugs.
Thank you. Haha! I got on the scale this morning after vacation - and thought of you. Not kidding. Heading out for a ride before it hits the 100's. Blah.
Well it is sort of a flying bus. Last time I flew was May of 22 right after they dropped the stupid masks. I was so happy about that, the flights were awesome.
lol, good comparison
That description is pretty accurate 😂
My airline mechanic husband pointed to a Southwest Airlines ad and said you can thank those people because they’re the ones who started the cheap fare thing then quality went downhill to compete.
They are actually the better of the lower cost airlines 😕 Spirit and Frontier and Allegiant are much worse. Along with Easyjet and Ryanair in Europe. OTOH, for short trips, I don’t really care about comfort that much. 1-2 hour flights are not a big deal. Of course I always care about safety but I don’t need a bunch of extras for a short direct flight. International and longer domestic flights are the ones where I really notice the difference. They’re pathetic compared to what they used to be. The only improvement is the individual screen on the seat back. Those big screens at the front were impossible to see for short people and kids 😛
....but everyone was transfixed, remember? I haven't flown since maybe '98. I guess I'd get a rather rude awakening.
Later Jay
I wasn’t, because I could never see the screen, however much I might squirm and crane my neck 😕